Its basic economics and people still think Bandwidth is free... Its not.. Its very costly.. and You have unlimited access but not unlimited usage.
Its plain and simple how Highspeed works.. They get a Highspeed line and share it among its customers.. Say your highspeed ISP has a 1Gig/sec line and they doll out 1Meg/sec connections. That means that it only takes about 1024 people using the full 1meg that they are portioned out on a consistant 24/7 basis to congest the incomming trunk. say Your paying 40$/month for your connection which is pretty much the going rate for the most part... Do you actually think Any ISP could find 1Gig/s of bandwidth for Less than 40K$ a month.. Thats just Bandwidth charges.. They still need to Feed thier greedy pocket and pay for infastructure upkeep and Support yet too not to mention Advertising Ect..
There are a few reasons why they do not Publish What they currently consider Acceptable use.. As time goes on What the Typical user uses on the ineternet is going to change.. and Thats what the economics of high speed are about... Typical users.. Another reason why they don't want to publish any numbers be because alot of people have a odd mentality of "They told me I can use up to 20 gig's in a month So I am gonna use it all Dammit!".. In which case They will loose some of thier profitability when alot of people are doing thier best to use thier alotted bandwidth.
If you think you are getting ripped off by your ISP ask them if they will provide you with a metered connection.. Then Download and Upload as much as you want then take a peek at your bill at the end of the month. I am sure you will be greatful for the unmetered conection you had with its unwritten limit.
There needs to be some Control done on this stuff. Patent Enforcement should have a a deadline of some sort... Companies that wait untill someone infringing on thier patent hit mainstream and establishes a market should loose the ability to enforce thier patent. Its just plain and simple. Something should also be done with Patent squatters.
It has rock-solid 32-player multiplayer, high fps, emboss terrain bump-mapping, and, most importantly -- great, unique movement dynamics
Obviously you didn't read:) His systems Can't seem to play Quake:) I think he is looking for Action games Such as Speed Soliarie (Need Speed to Satisfy his "Action" criteria)
I Guess Netrek would a a good one for him... Should run smoothly on a 1.7 system (Don't need no fancy fandangled Video card either:) )
Sorry for the trollish Post... But God! Why can't we Moderate People that post this idiotic junk. It should have been edited and Killed his Quake Comment... Seeing a idiotic staement like that on a tech forum like this is Insulting.
The underlying Question is a fairly good one.. But fair portion of discussion board is trashed because of a idiotic statement that should have been deleted.
You forgot the Obvious.... Buy her Ear plugs for Xmas... I am sure she will love you for it:)Because it will do alot more than just eliminate mouse clicks... Firealarms (Which could be useful if you feel the need to get rid of her after your married but don't want to pay exorbant lawyer fees).. Traffic.. Ect.. Cheapest solution by far:)
I get miffed when companies use current technology in the manner it was suposed to be used and call it a new technology... Eg "Advanced Web Acceleration Technology" Geeze.. Compressed webpages.. OOO! Thats a ground breaking technology.. NOT!
Lets see where is the Cool new Technology... Hmm... Compressing Files.. No thats old as Archive programs... What are webpages.. Nothing more than Files.. The only "New" thing here is compressing them before they are transfered over a modem..
So Basically they automated the process and most likely added cacheing servers.. All of this has been done for years.. adding all of this togther is called technology?
No I think its just common sence.. Nothing new and innovative here at all..
"If Amos were alive today, what obscure technology would he be pursuing?"
"Trustworthy Computing" By Microsoft:) Thats a pretty obscure Technology that we will doubtfully see in our lifetime:)In fact just like in his day its 'unbelievable' but It would have a practical application:)
I must agree... Its was great! they took enough of a diffrent angle They shouldn't have carried the names over or atleast came up with some background on how those Handles are passed on in the fleet.. Instead of Brunting everyone with Genderbender replacements..
I think if they would have just dropped those characters or Had Cameo's for them to keep the hardcore people happy they would have gotten alot less "Hate Mail":)
But Yeah I was disapointed to see the story end they way it did(I was hoping for another 2-4 hours of the story line)... But it left it on a note perfect for a Series to pick up where it left off.
It would ceom from calling it a "Cruise Missle" should have called it a rocket or something else that doesn't sound so threatening...
But where do you draw the line... All the components are readily available.. he was doing it on a "shoe string budget".. What exactally did he do wrong..
Think of the bandwidth required to feed the the population in that area.. if you think 11mbit will be enough then you are sadly mistaken...
It would have to be only available to sparcely populated areas... and then even so.. at extreme range throughput would be absolutly minimal... there would be alot of retransmission ect that would tie up bandwidth ect..
Hmm.. For some odd reason Vaporware comes to mind:)
I am sure if they are truely working on a secure os.. all of the features will not be added into thier next OS... It will surely span 2-3 OS releases:)
Software companies should be held liable for bad/poor practices. Most exploits are based off a few concepts which are a result of poor programming practices....
Every Student in a univeristy that takes any sort of programming (Well any learning institution for that matter) should be taught Proper programming practices. That would include Exploits and how to write "Trustworthy" code.
When you look at the trend, Buffer/Stack overflows make up a massive majority of exploits. But since it is a well known problem a solution.. We should be able to be in a environment where these "Mistakes" shouldn't be repeated on a on-going basis...
The software industry seems exempt from liability where most other industries Do have some form of liability for continuing bad practices.
So the problem isn't entirely the fault of the software industry itself.. Its also on the learning institutions for not producing programers that "know better" than to write bad code that will be exploitable by common methods. But the software industry should also be aware of this and use tools and develop better programming practices not to repeat history.
Ever see a Phone book on a cell phone that didn't dial the number when your pressed 1 button or used voice recignition?
The use is allready there and expected to be there.. removing this feature for the most part would defeat the usability of your cell phones phone book. no-one wants to jot the number down so you could dial it when its allready in your cellphone.. The public wouldn't accept that feature disapearing.
Game Manufacturers don't seem to be following a business model for Mass Marketing... They seem to prefer to use a model where they are priced as high as possible to maximize profit per copy rather than a model where profit comes from mass copies.
Its this business model that fuels the majority of piracy in North America.. If a game were 25$ and I could walk and pick it up in 15 mins at the game store near by.. Or spend 1-2 days downloading it... I would rather pay the 25$ if the company/game had a good rep for playability.
Its hard to shell out 40-80$ for a game that may only have 2-3 days of playibility to it. That also fuels piracy... So they have a few obstices to overcome in that reguard.
SOCAN is proposing that ISPs pay a royalty of 25 cents per subscriber per year as well as 10 per cent of any gross profit ISPs make through the sale of advertising.
Ok.25$ a Year to download all the music I want and not worry! Hell.. I'll send em a Check myself to pay up for all the years I have listened to music and probaly advance pay for the next 50!
What is crazy they want a piece of Advertising money's from the cable companies... How does this come into the picture... I guess it may stem from some of the TV ads you see on the TV about Young kids complaining about how long it takes to download music over dialup instead of having highspeed:)
You know I would love to actually see some Numbers of the songs being downloaded and those songs availability in the music stores....
I would not be shocked to see a very large portion of the music being transmitted over the internet is not readily available at music stores.. P2P Music for me is a matter of convience that cannot be had at any Music store I have ever been at.
This would be one of the reasons for teh sucess of Itunes and similar services... I haven't seen what music they offer.. But for the most part.. I find myself download songs that are 10+ years old that You just can't find in music stores and to Pay 30+$ for a special order is lunacy just for 2-3 songs of the disc.
For Start This is only Australia not the rest of the world.. and Nowadays most every P2P protocol allows you down download from multiple sources so aslong as you have room on your download pipe your doing good if there are enough sources out there.
Also Highspeed ISP's usually have Tonnes of Available room for egress traffic as al,l, of thier lines are sold in a symetric fasion not Asymetric like what most highspeed connections are.
And with all the money being spent on-line It wont devolve into just a few large companies...
Well It starts to get Interesting when looking at some of the P2P Protocols that allow you to change the port they run on.
It would have to be a pretty active to keep P2P clients from working at all.. and to think of searching and killing just infringing stuff would be nearly impossible without huge massive resources and infringing on thier privacy which is another issue all togther.
Anyone that uses Broadband to replace T1's in a critical business component is just being stupid.. if its a critical part of your business communications then it is esential to utilize a medium that you have high-avalibility and a guarentee for service within a reasonable time frame which Broadband doesn't provide.
With high speed Internet cable in the area it should be somewhat near that all ready.. In Canada cities that have high speed Internet over cable have 1 fiber per 1500 homes or less on average where penetration is decent 25%+ of homes.
What would make the most sense is to see State/Cities install fiber networks throughout the city and rent off fiber space to promote competition in the last mile for services. Right now Infrastructures are owned by companies that have interest in staving off competition...
Once there is a fiber infrastructure in place that leaves the last mile up to providers I am sure you will see a higher level of service and greater competition once the majority of the cost of a infrastructure are up for lease.
Well.. You seem to forget about population density... In the US on avg 1 square Kilomotere only has about 50 people... in Japan thats 1500.. So cost of infastructure is really easy to recoup where the US isn't as dense.
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Its basic economics and people still think Bandwidth is free... Its not.. Its very costly.. and You have unlimited access but not unlimited usage.
Its plain and simple how Highspeed works.. They get a Highspeed line and share it among its customers.. Say your highspeed ISP has a 1Gig/sec line and they doll out 1Meg/sec connections. That means that it only takes about 1024 people using the full 1meg that they are portioned out on a consistant 24/7 basis to congest the incomming trunk. say Your paying 40$/month for your connection which is pretty much the going rate for the most part... Do you actually think Any ISP could find 1Gig/s of bandwidth for Less than 40K$ a month.. Thats just Bandwidth charges.. They still need to Feed thier greedy pocket and pay for infastructure upkeep and Support yet too not to mention Advertising Ect..
There are a few reasons why they do not Publish What they currently consider Acceptable use.. As time goes on What the Typical user uses on the ineternet is going to change.. and Thats what the economics of high speed are about... Typical users.. Another reason why they don't want to publish any numbers be because alot of people have a odd mentality of "They told me I can use up to 20 gig's in a month So I am gonna use it all Dammit!".. In which case They will loose some of thier profitability when alot of people are doing thier best to use thier alotted bandwidth.
If you think you are getting ripped off by your ISP ask them if they will provide you with a metered connection.. Then Download and Upload as much as you want then take a peek at your bill at the end of the month. I am sure you will be greatful for the unmetered conection you had with its unwritten limit.
There needs to be some Control done on this stuff. Patent Enforcement should have a a deadline of some sort... Companies that wait untill someone infringing on thier patent hit mainstream and establishes a market should loose the ability to enforce thier patent. Its just plain and simple. Something should also be done with Patent squatters.
It has rock-solid 32-player multiplayer, high fps, emboss terrain bump-mapping, and, most importantly -- great, unique movement dynamics
:) His systems Can't seem to play Quake :) I think he is looking for Action games Such as Speed Soliarie (Need Speed to Satisfy his "Action" criteria)
:) )
Obviously you didn't read
I Guess Netrek would a a good one for him... Should run smoothly on a 1.7 system (Don't need no fancy fandangled Video card either
Sorry for the trollish Post... But God! Why can't we Moderate People that post this idiotic junk. It should have been edited and Killed his Quake Comment... Seeing a idiotic staement like that on a tech forum like this is Insulting.
The underlying Question is a fairly good one.. But fair portion of discussion board is trashed because of a idiotic statement that should have been deleted.
You forgot the Obvious.... Buy her Ear plugs for Xmas... I am sure she will love you for it :)Because it will do alot more than just eliminate mouse clicks... Firealarms (Which could be useful if you feel the need to get rid of her after your married but don't want to pay exorbant lawyer fees).. Traffic.. Ect.. Cheapest solution by far :)
I get miffed when companies use current technology in the manner it was suposed to be used and call it a new technology... Eg "Advanced Web Acceleration Technology" Geeze.. Compressed webpages.. OOO! Thats a ground breaking technology.. NOT!
Lets see where is the Cool new Technology... Hmm... Compressing Files.. No thats old as Archive programs... What are webpages.. Nothing more than Files.. The only "New" thing here is compressing them before they are transfered over a modem..
So Basically they automated the process and most likely added cacheing servers.. All of this has been done for years.. adding all of this togther is called technology?
No I think its just common sence.. Nothing new and innovative here at all..
"If Amos were alive today, what obscure technology would he be pursuing?"
:) Thats a pretty obscure Technology that we will doubtfully see in our lifetime :)In fact just like in his day its 'unbelievable' but It would have a practical application :)
"Trustworthy Computing" By Microsoft
Obviously The packet over pigeon people haven't seen Packet over Sheep.
:)
http://www.devilnet.net/rfc3203/
Its obviously more stable than pigeons
I must agree... Its was great! they took enough of a diffrent angle They shouldn't have carried the names over or atleast came up with some background on how those Handles are passed on in the fleet.. Instead of Brunting everyone with Genderbender replacements..
:)
I think if they would have just dropped those characters or Had Cameo's for them to keep the hardcore people happy they would have gotten alot less "Hate Mail"
But Yeah I was disapointed to see the story end they way it did(I was hoping for another 2-4 hours of the story line)... But it left it on a note perfect for a Series to pick up where it left off.
It would ceom from calling it a "Cruise Missle" should have called it a rocket or something else that doesn't sound so threatening...
But where do you draw the line... All the components are readily available.. he was doing it on a "shoe string budget".. What exactally did he do wrong..
Think of the bandwidth required to feed the the population in that area.. if you think 11mbit will be enough then you are sadly mistaken...
It would have to be only available to sparcely populated areas... and then even so.. at extreme range throughput would be absolutly minimal... there would be alot of retransmission ect that would tie up bandwidth ect..
OOh... Wonder how long it will take K++ Source to Appear on Kazza's network :)
Hmm.. For some odd reason Vaporware comes to mind :)
:)
I am sure if they are truely working on a secure os.. all of the features will not be added into thier next OS... It will surely span 2-3 OS releases
But the phone book is a intrgral part of the OS.. Seperating the Phone book from the OS would drastically cripple the OS and stifle innovation..
Oops! I guess that only applies to Phones using a MS OS with "PhoneBook Explorer"
Software companies should be held liable for bad/poor practices. Most exploits are based off a few concepts which are a result of poor programming practices....
Every Student in a univeristy that takes any sort of programming (Well any learning institution for that matter) should be taught Proper programming practices. That would include Exploits and how to write "Trustworthy" code.
When you look at the trend, Buffer/Stack overflows make up a massive majority of exploits. But since it is a well known problem a solution.. We should be able to be in a environment where these "Mistakes" shouldn't be repeated on a on-going basis...
The software industry seems exempt from liability where most other industries Do have some form of liability for continuing bad practices.
So the problem isn't entirely the fault of the software industry itself.. Its also on the learning institutions for not producing programers that "know better" than to write bad code that will be exploitable by common methods. But the software industry should also be aware of this and use tools and develop better programming practices not to repeat history.
Ever see a Phone book on a cell phone that didn't dial the number when your pressed 1 button or used voice recignition?
The use is allready there and expected to be there.. removing this feature for the most part would defeat the usability of your cell phones phone book. no-one wants to jot the number down so you could dial it when its allready in your cellphone.. The public wouldn't accept that feature disapearing.
Game Manufacturers don't seem to be following a business model for Mass Marketing... They seem to prefer to use a model where they are priced as high as possible to maximize profit per copy rather than a model where profit comes from mass copies.
Its this business model that fuels the majority of piracy in North America.. If a game were 25$ and I could walk and pick it up in 15 mins at the game store near by.. Or spend 1-2 days downloading it... I would rather pay the 25$ if the company/game had a good rep for playability.
Its hard to shell out 40-80$ for a game that may only have 2-3 days of playibility to it. That also fuels piracy... So they have a few obstices to overcome in that reguard.
SOCAN is proposing that ISPs pay a royalty of 25 cents per subscriber per year as well as 10 per cent of any gross profit ISPs make through the sale of advertising.
.25$ a Year to download all the music I want and not worry! Hell.. I'll send em a Check myself to pay up for all the years I have listened to music and probaly advance pay for the next 50!
:)
Ok
What is crazy they want a piece of Advertising money's from the cable companies... How does this come into the picture... I guess it may stem from some of the TV ads you see on the TV about Young kids complaining about how long it takes to download music over dialup instead of having highspeed
You know I would love to actually see some Numbers of the songs being downloaded and those songs availability in the music stores....
I would not be shocked to see a very large portion of the music being transmitted over the internet is not readily available at music stores.. P2P Music for me is a matter of convience that cannot be had at any Music store I have ever been at.
This would be one of the reasons for teh sucess of Itunes and similar services... I haven't seen what music they offer.. But for the most part.. I find myself download songs that are 10+ years old that You just can't find in music stores and to Pay 30+$ for a special order is lunacy just for 2-3 songs of the disc.
For Start This is only Australia not the rest of the world.. and Nowadays most every P2P protocol allows you down download from multiple sources so aslong as you have room on your download pipe your doing good if there are enough sources out there.
Also Highspeed ISP's usually have Tonnes of Available room for egress traffic as al,l, of thier lines are sold in a symetric fasion not Asymetric like what most highspeed connections are.
And with all the money being spent on-line It wont devolve into just a few large companies...
Well It starts to get Interesting when looking at some of the P2P Protocols that allow you to change the port they run on.
It would have to be a pretty active to keep P2P clients from working at all.. and to think of searching and killing just infringing stuff would be nearly impossible without huge massive resources and infringing on thier privacy which is another issue all togther.
This News wont be in the Limelight that SCO's claims were though... Its very rare Rebuttal ever gets as much Limelight as unsubstianciated claims do.
SCO is a bit more like RAMBUS was.. Other than RAMBUS had some legal legs to stand on... Wheres RAMBUS now ?
Well thats just a improper use of Broadband...
Anyone that uses Broadband to replace T1's in a critical business component is just being stupid.. if its a critical part of your business communications then it is esential to utilize a medium that you have high-avalibility and a guarentee for service within a reasonable time frame which Broadband doesn't provide.
With high speed Internet cable in the area it should be somewhat near that all ready.. In Canada cities that have high speed Internet over cable have 1 fiber per 1500 homes or less on average where penetration is decent 25%+ of homes. What would make the most sense is to see State/Cities install fiber networks throughout the city and rent off fiber space to promote competition in the last mile for services. Right now Infrastructures are owned by companies that have interest in staving off competition... Once there is a fiber infrastructure in place that leaves the last mile up to providers I am sure you will see a higher level of service and greater competition once the majority of the cost of a infrastructure are up for lease.
Well.. You seem to forget about population density... In the US on avg 1 square Kilomotere only has about 50 people... in Japan thats 1500.. So cost of infastructure is really easy to recoup where the US isn't as dense.