First, let me say that if you are a soldier, I appreciate it. This comment is more to clarify my understanding of how soldiers are paid.
That said, your statement about $15k seems to be a bit misleading.
1 - Were you deployed in a foreign country? Correct me if I am wrong, but deployed pay is 2-3x normal pay. So, I suppose you can consider yourself 'protecting' him, but I would say only if you were deployed.
2 - Isnt it true that the military covers most of your living expenses? Living Expenses (either by giving you a place to stay or by providing off-base stipends), Food/Meals (again by providing food directly or stipend), etc? $15k in profit is more than I make after rent + food.
I don't understand why a shark would surface if it was sick, that would just make it more vulnerable to unforeseen predators.
This is quite common in *many* animal species. Even dogs and raccoons do this. Obviously, when a creature gets physically sick (or old), often they are also mentally deficient as well, just like humans. With animals, however, they often wander into strange places, away from others of their kind, and generally do things they wouldn't ever normally do. This can be attributed to loss of sensory capabilities, perception, and many other things.
In some ways, this is advantageous -- not to the individual creature, but to the overall population -- and can potentially be considered advantageous behavior. If a creature is infested with a disease, the further away it gets from its healthy kin, the better off they are likely to be. If the creature is just old, it can benefit the rest of the 'pack' by leading predators away, at very least, before it dies.
Back on topic... This thing looked pretty beaten up. Granted, I haven't ever seen one before, but it looks to me pretty old and out of it. It was just its time -- I wouldn't attribute its death to anything else unless you start seeing many more similar cases. Then it makes sense to worry. Until then, this is just kind of 'cool' for us monkeys.
Your argument is simply foolish. The TSA is inept at running a dept, so they are also inept at hiring researchers or security folk to check up on their stuff. This is a government agency. This person committed no actual crime -- he didnt use one, and didnt even print one.
The criminal would have kept this secret, and used it to his/her benefit by selling it to terrorists, criminals, or whatever. Those types of actions should be punished, SEVERELY!
What did he do? He made us all safer. He did it by exposing how ridiculous the TSA is, and gave them all the knowledge to fix the problem. He did not personally gain from this experience. If anything, he has suffered already for it much more than he ever should have. I would feel differently if this was a private company and not a public-oriented service (like AIRLINE travel), to which my tax dollars go (both to bail out airline bankruptcy, as well as to operating the TSA).
IU needs to stick up for their researchers, and foot the legal bill. I doubt they will, however, having been a past student, the administration at IU is pretty much inept equivalent to the TSA in my eyes.
Sure, but that just makes the victory pot sweeter, and then you can also likely apply criminal proceedings. If someone is knowingly, willfully trying to avoid a law, oftentimes you can get triple damages.
So... If you see this, report it, and let them know about the pattern. When you form a company, someone real has to be the agent for the company. So if that person starts, closes, starts, closes, a chain of businesses, it shouldnt be terribly hard to track, especially if you consider where they put their money (BANKS).
Businesses pay to be listed in either. White pages is just more indirect. You pay the phone company for a phone line -- and then you are in White Pages.
Try starting a business with VOIP. You wont be in the white pages..:)
You proposed that everyone who has a cellphone that needs access in a theatre or restaurant is just being rude. This is silly. Please allow me to provide you with some examples.
Doctors -- Who are on call. They now use pagers and cell phones to be beeped so they can hightail it to the hospital to save LIVES. Police or Firemen -- Need to be alerted about a new situation that requires their presence. This includes investigators or detectives, or ancillary staff. Small Business Owners -- Who at 8pm find out someone just robbed their store, or that an employee didnt show up, or that there is a big leak in the roof during the rain storm. People Who Own Alarms -- Who ask that alarm companies notify them when an alarm goes off.
Jamming phones causes SEVERE problems to these people, and potentially without them having any idea it is happening. People will be hurt, both physically and financially, by widescale phone jamming.
So, while a lot of people ARE pricks, you should just learn to grow up and ask them to be polite, or explain it to management. But dont punish those sectors of society that RELY on that technology -- you might be relying on them someday to help you.
I dont get much enjoyment out of 'grinding rep' or doing the same dungeons over and over. I get enjoyment out of quests, which is what WOW was based around from levels 1-40.
Whatever floats your boat, I just know there are a lot of people like me, who loved the long quest line and story, who dont like grinding or repeating instances.
Certainly you arent proposing that all guilds operate like yours? I have seen guild raid's that take 2 hours to organize, and 8 hours to do, becuase they have to try it 2-3 times. I've seen it take 30 minutes just to get a 5 man run in certain dungeons.
And thats fine. I'm not bitching about the developers choice. Go after the market you want. All I'm saying is, after you turn 60, you cant just play in 30 minute segments and expect to have ANY fun.
And again, i'd bet that there are more people pissing away their lives on WoW than their are people who can just hop on and off
Correct. And the blizzard guys have made this so. I was one of those people who wanted to hop on or hop off. Play solo, or do small quests with small groups of friends that would only take 30 minutes, 1 hour, or max 2 hours at a time.
But blizzard doesnt produce content like that, so a lot of the people like me, including me, stopped playing. The game is remarkably good at this type of content from levels 1-40. However, the developers seem to focus more on 20, 40, 60 man raid dungeons, and not single player quests. You cant really be functional and play WOW at high levels, unfortunately. High level WOW play requires 8 hour raids. It requires constantly running dungeons and PVP for items. And that sucks for me, but some people love it (the so called 'addicts'), and thats what they pay for.
There's always room for movies like "Walk the Line" and "Signs"
Um, Signs? Seriously, I was with you until this point. Signs was the beginning of the end for Shyamalan. The plot and characters were amazingly unreal, filled with logic holes, and downright stupid at points. Come on, seriously, aliens that cant handle water?
Anywho, I agree with your general assessment, just not with your example.
Movies must continue to inspire, invigorate, explore, empathize to mean much in the long run.
True, but this is a HR and Management problem more than a security or blocking one.
If people have projects, and they complete them on time, with good quality, then what does it matter? The problem is that many managers (myself included, occasionally) fall into the trap that people should be working all the time, and thats really not a good way to do things. Some people are incredibly productive for 2 hours, and do nothing for the rest. Others work diligently, but slowly, for 8 hours. At the end of the day, if they turn out the same product, what does it matter?
THe real problem is that most management and large companies do not have effective project and work measurement systems and expect their employees to work like robots.
I hold patents personally, and I do not work for a large company.
It does not cost $100,000 unless there is significant legal interaction. If you do the work yourself, and the patent is valid, and the documentation correct, and the writing succinct yet clear, it does not cost anywhere near $100k.
I do employ a patent lawyer to clean things up and double-check, as well as patent research. In my estimates, it costs between $10,000 and $25,000 to get a patent. Sure, its not cheap, but I dont think it should be cheap. That would clog the patent system more than it already is. People should only patent things they are serious about, that make sense, and are true inventions.
1. It is very interesting indeed that these people who are so "betrayed" by the system and the "traitors" that they are forced to purchase and consume said items exist without conflict. Certainly there is no system that allows for individuals to know what they are consuming, when, and in what quantities. More over, these people are blindly forced into consuming only those items that these traitors see fit, they have no free will of their own.
2. It is also interesting that these corporations, and the system in which they operate, continue to exist only by the support of each other. It is, of course, obvious that people do not really want these organizations to exist, and if given the choice, no person would ever purchase any of their goods, participate in the economy, or vote in any election. They are, in fact, drones, who have no ability to think for themselves.
3. It should, of course, be noted that these "traitors" include the farmers all around the world, without whose untold treason that americans would never have to experience the great pain of butter, coffee, steak, cocoa, or any meat products. More over, we must blame those producers of sugar, as well as salt, becuase without them, all humans would be free from any health conditions. These producers are no better than drug producers around the world.
4. It is of course greed, and greed alone, that drives the local restaurant, the local farmer, or the local supermarket owner, for this person is the peddler of many goods that said humans are forced to enjoy every day. They find great pleasure in seeing their family, neighbors, friends, and relatives in pain and suffering, all the while collecting their tariffs.
END SARCASM.
To Parent Poster -- Are you really serious about your thoughts, and your implications?
People choose to enjoy life, and they have free will to choose (or not choose) whatever they goddamn please. Especially in today's economy, there exists healthy fast-food, healthy snacks, healthy organic supermarkets, and information abounds concerning the product, its contents, and its likely affects on your health. And yet many people choose the stuff that hurts their health, becuase they enjoy it. Some people, perhaps, choose to live life to its fullest, rather than live the longest.
You sir, are nothing more than a fascist, using emotion and the words like "terrorism" and "greed" and "traitor" to affect those to your side.
Wow. I post a quote, and get a flame. So by posting a quote from Winston Churchill, I am "part of the problem"?
Regardless of the "Flaminess" of your post, I will still respond.
1 - I am not resistant to improving the situation. I know the US isnt great right now. I live here, work here, and vote here. Regardless of what you may think, its still one of the best places (speaking with regards to government and voting exclusively) to live, work, or vote. This was the meaning of my post. It sucks. But its better than many other things.
2 - "Some of us don't want to take that lying down.. or bending over as the case may be. " Good. Does that also mean that you must have an irrational view of the world? Do you really think that your government form sucks that much? Its very easy to point out what sucks, but everyone quickly forgets the good tenants of the US democratic system.
3 - "We want to come up with better ways of doing things, and I'm sure that there must be better ways. We need serious reform of our election system, first and foremost." That all sounds grand. Would you like to propose some actual solutions, or just bitch about how the current ones suck. Try being proactive. When you do, you will learn how difficult it is to create a perfectly balanced system that lasts over hundreds of years. Again, our current system isnt great, in fact its probably bad, but that doesnt mean we should throw it away overnight. There are good things here.
4 - "Until then, we are stuck in a corrupt system that feeds off the cash of special interests and puts up walls to prevent the non-corrupt from getting in." And explain to me how this is different from ANY OTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. This is government, Get used to it. Improve it, Regulate it, Reform it, But you wont remove corruption from government. Where the power is, the corrupt go. Again, I am not trying to belittle your viewpoint, and I would tend to agree that it needs work, but I would rather see you propose solutions that just BITCH.
Not sure why you were modded down, but your point is *why* I posted in the first place. Thank you.
I have empathy for those that were fired. And the GGP DID imply that the decision was wrong, based on the context and who they were replying did, so This posts GP is silly. Hence my post.
I'm glad you care about those 5000 workers. Thats nice.
Unfortunately, its also stupid. The company must survive to provide jobs for the other 25,000 people that work for Sun. If firing these 5000 workers will allow them some much needed restructuring of operations, then the rest of their workforce will be better off for it, and will allow them to make money and eventually hire more people.
Certainly, its not fun or easy that 5000 people lose out so 25000 people can gain. However, Sun is really not a place where executives are ridiculously overpaid. Hopefully some of those 5000 are excess middle management.
You likely know all this, but just for the sake of point...
This is why mortgages exist. Mortgages allows people to make payments similar to rent, but they own the property and gain the benefits of ownership.
But thats not to say that it is cheaper. Generally owning is more expensive, but thats becuase it is, at least in part, a saving mechanism over time. So part of the money you write a check for each month becomes yours. And ideally, you also reap the benefits of the value of your house going up.
Renting is very comparable to leasing a car -- its convenient, easy, and you dont have to worry about dick. Owning a home is (generally) financially better if you can afford the time and money committments.
However, I'm sure you see the word "Worker" and automatically assume a room-temperature IQ, a namebadge with "employee of the week" star on it, working for minimum wage -- not a room full of MIT grads whose combined IQ is higher than your yearly salary. With the attitude you show toward the word "work" I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you yourself are a manager.
Thanks for putting words into my mouth. It really does show your *IQ* (/sarcasm). My whole argument throughout this thread has not been to disparage workers, or their abilities, but just contend that a management role is necessary. The fact that you have a real problem with this shows your lack of experience in the real world. Perhaps you and your "room full of MIT Grads whose IQ is higher than my yearly salary" might want to step outside and experience the real world once in a while -- That is, if you can bring yourself down to the level of dealing with ordinary people. Or would that be beneath you?
I am a manager, so you are correct there, if you consider the co-founder of a 10 person tech startup management.
And Just so your ego keeps growing, your room full of MIT grads with IQ's that are so unfathomable to me, should have an IQ greater than my yearly salary -- given that my pay at the startup is the lowest among ALL of the full time staff.
And the "Cite your source!" argument on slashdot is getting old. If you really want sources, you can google them for yourself and not blabber on it. If you don't really care for sources but are just throwing it around as an argument, don't bother typing it out. You may just end up getting wrecked.
This is not the normal "cite your source" argument that typical slashdotters employ. My jest was towards the fact that there ARE NO EXAMPLES of organizations that run without some form of management. I suppose your extreme IQ prevented you from catching on. Oh well.;p
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North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes? :)
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First, let me say that if you are a soldier, I appreciate it. This comment is more to clarify my understanding of how soldiers are paid. That said, your statement about $15k seems to be a bit misleading. 1 - Were you deployed in a foreign country? Correct me if I am wrong, but deployed pay is 2-3x normal pay. So, I suppose you can consider yourself 'protecting' him, but I would say only if you were deployed. 2 - Isnt it true that the military covers most of your living expenses? Living Expenses (either by giving you a place to stay or by providing off-base stipends), Food/Meals (again by providing food directly or stipend), etc? $15k in profit is more than I make after rent + food.
I don't understand why a shark would surface if it was sick, that would just make it more vulnerable to unforeseen predators.
This is quite common in *many* animal species. Even dogs and raccoons do this. Obviously, when a creature gets physically sick (or old), often they are also mentally deficient as well, just like humans. With animals, however, they often wander into strange places, away from others of their kind, and generally do things they wouldn't ever normally do. This can be attributed to loss of sensory capabilities, perception, and many other things.
In some ways, this is advantageous -- not to the individual creature, but to the overall population -- and can potentially be considered advantageous behavior. If a creature is infested with a disease, the further away it gets from its healthy kin, the better off they are likely to be. If the creature is just old, it can benefit the rest of the 'pack' by leading predators away, at very least, before it dies.
Back on topic... This thing looked pretty beaten up. Granted, I haven't ever seen one before, but it looks to me pretty old and out of it. It was just its time -- I wouldn't attribute its death to anything else unless you start seeing many more similar cases. Then it makes sense to worry. Until then, this is just kind of 'cool' for us monkeys.
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I thought i read that google now has power plants and data centers, in oregon, that are based primarily on water-power from a huge river.
So, if power goes down, they actually might be the only ones who *ARE* up and running, which is pretty fucking cool.
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Nice Flaimbait...But i'll bite.
Your argument is simply foolish. The TSA is inept at running a dept, so they are also inept at hiring researchers or security folk to check up on their stuff. This is a government agency. This person committed no actual crime -- he didnt use one, and didnt even print one.
The criminal would have kept this secret, and used it to his/her benefit by selling it to terrorists, criminals, or whatever. Those types of actions should be punished, SEVERELY!
What did he do? He made us all safer. He did it by exposing how ridiculous the TSA is, and gave them all the knowledge to fix the problem. He did not personally gain from this experience. If anything, he has suffered already for it much more than he ever should have. I would feel differently if this was a private company and not a public-oriented service (like AIRLINE travel), to which my tax dollars go (both to bail out airline bankruptcy, as well as to operating the TSA).
IU needs to stick up for their researchers, and foot the legal bill. I doubt they will, however, having been a past student, the administration at IU is pretty much inept equivalent to the TSA in my eyes.
God forbid someone try to HELP the world...
Sure, but that just makes the victory pot sweeter, and then you can also likely apply criminal proceedings. If someone is knowingly, willfully trying to avoid a law, oftentimes you can get triple damages.
So... If you see this, report it, and let them know about the pattern. When you form a company, someone real has to be the agent for the company. So if that person starts, closes, starts, closes, a chain of businesses, it shouldnt be terribly hard to track, especially if you consider where they put their money (BANKS).
Triple Damages are sweet.
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Incorrect.
:)
Businesses pay to be listed in either. White pages is just more indirect. You pay the phone company for a phone line -- and then you are in White Pages.
Try starting a business with VOIP. You wont be in the white pages..
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You are very interesting indeed.
You proposed that everyone who has a cellphone that needs access in a theatre or restaurant is just being rude. This is silly. Please allow me to provide you with some examples.
Doctors -- Who are on call. They now use pagers and cell phones to be beeped so they can hightail it to the hospital to save LIVES.
Police or Firemen -- Need to be alerted about a new situation that requires their presence. This includes investigators or detectives, or ancillary staff.
Small Business Owners -- Who at 8pm find out someone just robbed their store, or that an employee didnt show up, or that there is a big leak in the roof during the rain storm.
People Who Own Alarms -- Who ask that alarm companies notify them when an alarm goes off.
Jamming phones causes SEVERE problems to these people, and potentially without them having any idea it is happening. People will be hurt, both physically and financially, by widescale phone jamming.
So, while a lot of people ARE pricks, you should just learn to grow up and ask them to be polite, or explain it to management. But dont punish those sectors of society that RELY on that technology -- you might be relying on them someday to help you.
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Hah. They werent having sex, they were being drunk assholes who happened to also be fooling around.
But you might be right..
No, its required to see content and do quests.
I dont get much enjoyment out of 'grinding rep' or doing the same dungeons over and over. I get enjoyment out of quests, which is what WOW was based around from levels 1-40.
Whatever floats your boat, I just know there are a lot of people like me, who loved the long quest line and story, who dont like grinding or repeating instances.
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Certainly you arent proposing that all guilds operate like yours? I have seen guild raid's that take 2 hours to organize, and 8 hours to do, becuase they have to try it 2-3 times. I've seen it take 30 minutes just to get a 5 man run in certain dungeons.
And thats fine. I'm not bitching about the developers choice. Go after the market you want. All I'm saying is, after you turn 60, you cant just play in 30 minute segments and expect to have ANY fun.
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And again, i'd bet that there are more people pissing away their lives on WoW than their are people who can just hop on and off
Correct. And the blizzard guys have made this so. I was one of those people who wanted to hop on or hop off. Play solo, or do small quests with small groups of friends that would only take 30 minutes, 1 hour, or max 2 hours at a time.
But blizzard doesnt produce content like that, so a lot of the people like me, including me, stopped playing. The game is remarkably good at this type of content from levels 1-40. However, the developers seem to focus more on 20, 40, 60 man raid dungeons, and not single player quests. You cant really be functional and play WOW at high levels, unfortunately. High level WOW play requires 8 hour raids. It requires constantly running dungeons and PVP for items. And that sucks for me, but some people love it (the so called 'addicts'), and thats what they pay for.
There's always room for movies like "Walk the Line" and "Signs"
Um, Signs? Seriously, I was with you until this point. Signs was the beginning of the end for Shyamalan. The plot and characters were amazingly unreal, filled with logic holes, and downright stupid at points. Come on, seriously, aliens that cant handle water?
Anywho, I agree with your general assessment, just not with your example.
Movies must continue to inspire, invigorate, explore, empathize to mean much in the long run.
I think you need to re-read my post. What you said is exactly what I said.
True, but this is a HR and Management problem more than a security or blocking one.
If people have projects, and they complete them on time, with good quality, then what does it matter? The problem is that many managers (myself included, occasionally) fall into the trap that people should be working all the time, and thats really not a good way to do things. Some people are incredibly productive for 2 hours, and do nothing for the rest. Others work diligently, but slowly, for 8 hours. At the end of the day, if they turn out the same product, what does it matter?
THe real problem is that most management and large companies do not have effective project and work measurement systems and expect their employees to work like robots.
Except spelling, apparently. ;P
I'm with you on this, I do it too.
But you do realize that they tie together credit card numbers as if they were names, and then tie those to customer loyalty cards.
The only way our plan works with the no-info loyalty cards is if we pay only in cash. Otherwise, its a little trickier, but still doable.
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I hold patents personally, and I do not work for a large company.
It does not cost $100,000 unless there is significant legal interaction. If you do the work yourself, and the patent is valid, and the documentation correct, and the writing succinct yet clear, it does not cost anywhere near $100k.
I do employ a patent lawyer to clean things up and double-check, as well as patent research. In my estimates, it costs between $10,000 and $25,000 to get a patent. Sure, its not cheap, but I dont think it should be cheap. That would clog the patent system more than it already is. People should only patent things they are serious about, that make sense, and are true inventions.
Your theorums are very interesting, sir.
1. It is very interesting indeed that these people who are so "betrayed" by the system and the "traitors" that they are forced to purchase and consume said items exist without conflict. Certainly there is no system that allows for individuals to know what they are consuming, when, and in what quantities. More over, these people are blindly forced into consuming only those items that these traitors see fit, they have no free will of their own.
2. It is also interesting that these corporations, and the system in which they operate, continue to exist only by the support of each other. It is, of course, obvious that people do not really want these organizations to exist, and if given the choice, no person would ever purchase any of their goods, participate in the economy, or vote in any election. They are, in fact, drones, who have no ability to think for themselves.
3. It should, of course, be noted that these "traitors" include the farmers all around the world, without whose untold treason that americans would never have to experience the great pain of butter, coffee, steak, cocoa, or any meat products. More over, we must blame those producers of sugar, as well as salt, becuase without them, all humans would be free from any health conditions. These producers are no better than drug producers around the world.
4. It is of course greed, and greed alone, that drives the local restaurant, the local farmer, or the local supermarket owner, for this person is the peddler of many goods that said humans are forced to enjoy every day. They find great pleasure in seeing their family, neighbors, friends, and relatives in pain and suffering, all the while collecting their tariffs.
END SARCASM.
To Parent Poster -- Are you really serious about your thoughts, and your implications?
People choose to enjoy life, and they have free will to choose (or not choose) whatever they goddamn please. Especially in today's economy, there exists healthy fast-food, healthy snacks, healthy organic supermarkets, and information abounds concerning the product, its contents, and its likely affects on your health. And yet many people choose the stuff that hurts their health, becuase they enjoy it. Some people, perhaps, choose to live life to its fullest, rather than live the longest.
You sir, are nothing more than a fascist, using emotion and the words like "terrorism" and "greed" and "traitor" to affect those to your side.
Wow. I post a quote, and get a flame. So by posting a quote from Winston Churchill, I am "part of the problem"?
Regardless of the "Flaminess" of your post, I will still respond.
1 - I am not resistant to improving the situation. I know the US isnt great right now. I live here, work here, and vote here. Regardless of what you may think, its still one of the best places (speaking with regards to government and voting exclusively) to live, work, or vote. This was the meaning of my post. It sucks. But its better than many other things.
2 - "Some of us don't want to take that lying down.. or bending over as the case may be. " Good. Does that also mean that you must have an irrational view of the world? Do you really think that your government form sucks that much? Its very easy to point out what sucks, but everyone quickly forgets the good tenants of the US democratic system.
3 - "We want to come up with better ways of doing things, and I'm sure that there must be better ways. We need serious reform of our election system, first and foremost." That all sounds grand. Would you like to propose some actual solutions, or just bitch about how the current ones suck. Try being proactive. When you do, you will learn how difficult it is to create a perfectly balanced system that lasts over hundreds of years. Again, our current system isnt great, in fact its probably bad, but that doesnt mean we should throw it away overnight. There are good things here.
4 - "Until then, we are stuck in a corrupt system that feeds off the cash of special interests and puts up walls to prevent the non-corrupt from getting in." And explain to me how this is different from ANY OTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. This is government, Get used to it. Improve it, Regulate it, Reform it, But you wont remove corruption from government. Where the power is, the corrupt go. Again, I am not trying to belittle your viewpoint, and I would tend to agree that it needs work, but I would rather see you propose solutions that just BITCH.
Thanks.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
--Winston Churchill
And he got it right too...
Not sure why you were modded down, but your point is *why* I posted in the first place. Thank you.
I have empathy for those that were fired. And the GGP DID imply that the decision was wrong, based on the context and who they were replying did, so This posts GP is silly. Hence my post.
I'm glad you care about those 5000 workers. Thats nice.
Unfortunately, its also stupid. The company must survive to provide jobs for the other 25,000 people that work for Sun. If firing these 5000 workers will allow them some much needed restructuring of operations, then the rest of their workforce will be better off for it, and will allow them to make money and eventually hire more people.
Certainly, its not fun or easy that 5000 people lose out so 25000 people can gain. However, Sun is really not a place where executives are ridiculously overpaid. Hopefully some of those 5000 are excess middle management.
You likely know all this, but just for the sake of point...
This is why mortgages exist. Mortgages allows people to make payments similar to rent, but they own the property and gain the benefits of ownership.
But thats not to say that it is cheaper. Generally owning is more expensive, but thats becuase it is, at least in part, a saving mechanism over time. So part of the money you write a check for each month becomes yours. And ideally, you also reap the benefits of the value of your house going up.
Renting is very comparable to leasing a car -- its convenient, easy, and you dont have to worry about dick. Owning a home is (generally) financially better if you can afford the time and money committments.
However, I'm sure you see the word "Worker" and automatically assume a room-temperature IQ, a namebadge with "employee of the week" star on it, working for minimum wage -- not a room full of MIT grads whose combined IQ is higher than your yearly salary. With the attitude you show toward the word "work" I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you yourself are a manager.
;p
Thanks for putting words into my mouth. It really does show your *IQ* (/sarcasm). My whole argument throughout this thread has not been to disparage workers, or their abilities, but just contend that a management role is necessary. The fact that you have a real problem with this shows your lack of experience in the real world. Perhaps you and your "room full of MIT Grads whose IQ is higher than my yearly salary" might want to step outside and experience the real world once in a while -- That is, if you can bring yourself down to the level of dealing with ordinary people. Or would that be beneath you?
I am a manager, so you are correct there, if you consider the co-founder of a 10 person tech startup management.
And Just so your ego keeps growing, your room full of MIT grads with IQ's that are so unfathomable to me, should have an IQ greater than my yearly salary -- given that my pay at the startup is the lowest among ALL of the full time staff.
And the "Cite your source!" argument on slashdot is getting old. If you really want sources, you can google them for yourself and not blabber on it. If you don't really care for sources but are just throwing it around as an argument, don't bother typing it out. You may just end up getting wrecked.
This is not the normal "cite your source" argument that typical slashdotters employ. My jest was towards the fact that there ARE NO EXAMPLES of organizations that run without some form of management. I suppose your extreme IQ prevented you from catching on. Oh well.