And even worse....if you don't accept this may form some sort of future legal argument.
While I understand that ignorance is not an excuse, the argument that "I didn't know it was illegal" if believable, sure helps take the wilful out of the argument, and may aid in a defense. Now, not only does the average citizen know, but they chose not to atone and are now wilfully "stealing" (according to the RIAA) music. This may bias more politicians and judges to their side.
Yes. I was specifically referrring to "call home" gps such as the Chevy offered "OnStar". You simply phone them and tell them your vehicles been stolen. They report the location to the police. I should have been more specific. http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/mod els/escalad e/onstar.html For example.
I am very aware that the analogy isn't perfect, but in the above example you are still trusting that Chevy isn't randomly "following" your vehicle for marketing or whatever reasons.....
Saying that getting a virus leaves you responsible in a way that compares to not have good brakes is invalid.
Sending a virus seems an illegal act by a 3rd party.
A more logical comparision would be in allowing your car to be stolen by not having an alarm or a club. Everyone knows that cars aren't secure without some form of security passed what the manufacturer offers. Or are computers more important legally than cars? Having someone else get into an accident with your car (after they have stolen it) does not leave you responsible.
Removing the battery is not an option for most people.
A few simple scenarios........
Calling in sick on my cell phone. I'd best be home.
Me checking on my local courier and wondering why they are delivering other parcels before they deliver my "important" parcel. Or wondering why my 3:00pm meeting is late when at 2:30 he was in a pub on the other side of town, not caught in traffic like he said.
A hospital about to call in a Doctor - Checks out four or five and calls in the closest - Unfair to the Dr. who has interests in town - and unfair to the rest as the hospital has snooped to see where they where.
All of these are from one side of the argument valid uses but from the other side an intrusion.
"If the car were "Open Sourced" then each piece would have to adhere to some specs that when put together enable a safe car. This is like building a house. The individual pieces are considered safe, and when assembled a safe car will result."
You mean like to do something as simple as putting SAFE michelin tires on SAFE Ford Explorers? These tires seldom had issues on other vehicles and these vehicles seldom had issues with other tires. This is a medley of two parts. Image a medley of 13 or 14 parts.
I live in a home with multiple computers and multiple users.
If my names on the list a simple format or harddrive swap would leave them with little evidence. As if they could charge my Pa or my Ma or my sister or me with no evidence "inside" the home.
That they "know" one of us did means little. This isn't school where the whole class gets detention. This is court where evidence matters.
"'This is our stadium, and we run the communications for it,' said Chris Metz, a PGE Park... "
What about cell phone communications?
Or palm pilots and the like?
What about communicating to the opposing team that you prefer them (ie, those cheering for the opposition must sit in section 9)?
Now the last example is quite silly, but what is the difference between wireless internet access and cellphone access? Do they have the legal rights to control such?
The ISP's should be billing the RIAA $40 or so per hour (or whatever it costs) to sift through their logs. THere is no way this should be paid for by the ISP. If I try to access records through my local courthouse I pay fees. It is not free for me to get information that I have a right to access. I don't think it should be free in this circumstance either.
I am Pepsi. I pay a software company to create software that finds coke cans in movies and alter them to Pepsi cans. No more than an "ad" does. The customer has "control" of his tv. And what appears.
Imagine watching a Nascar race and seeing the "home depot" car with the "Home Depot" logo covered by the "Target" logo via software. I really am not sure what the legal difference between TV and Computer screens would be. My cable company may be the next purveyor of "ads"....
A recent case here in Canada had me a bit uncomfortable.
A young girl was murdered and police asked Men in the neighbourhood to volunteer DNA samples. About 20 men refused. 19 were innocent and refused for personal reasons. One of these men was eventually implicated in the crime when Police followed these 20 men and picked up "pop cans, et al" used by these men to obtain DNA samples.
This implies - You have no right to refuse to give a DNA sample because one will be taken secretly against your will anyhow.
What happens to these samples? Could I be implicated in a completely separate crime because my second cousin lived NEAR a murder victim who's and had his DNA "stolen" by police?
This can only get scarier without laws to protect us.
3 and 5 hours are about how long this legislation would last if "Continental Airlines" had one of their computer "blown up". Imagine a business with an unregistered copy of winzip getting zapped.
See where your car is made, your shoes, your computer, tv - the list goes on. But you save money. The problem isn't your country as much as it is you. Pay more, buy local or take your share of the blame.
So I buy several "fully-refundable tickets" that "are a lot more expensive" and keep the least expensive "a lot more expensive" ticket, returning the rest - and save money?
In a related story, Microsoft was discovered to have copied "Linux code". The company who wrote the code started the process of suing MICROSOFT. Slashdotters argues that MS should just buy this company out or perform a hostile takeover to shut them up - whether they were right or wrong.
Oh, hold it. A slashdotter would NEVER request this to happen if MS were the alleged copyright abuser. MS would therefore being abusing there power.
I am not sure how IBM doing the same thing could be considered proper or moral.
I too hope this all goes away, but I'm not sure I like your method.
The real story here seems to be that VETO power had to be used. The story doesn't say a lot, but that implies that the government there came very close to passing this. While the governor may be a good guy it still doesn't say a lot for the state.
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And even worse....if you don't accept this may form some sort of future legal argument.
While I understand that ignorance is not an excuse, the argument that "I didn't know it was illegal" if believable, sure helps take the wilful out of the argument, and may aid in a defense. Now, not only does the average citizen know, but they chose not to atone and are now wilfully "stealing" (according to the RIAA) music. This may bias more politicians and judges to their side.
With a baseball mitt.
Yes. I was specifically referrring to "call home" gps such as the Chevy offered "OnStar". You simply phone them and tell them your vehicles been stolen. They report the location to the police. I should have been more specific.d els/escalad e/onstar.html For example.
http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/mo
I am very aware that the analogy isn't perfect, but in the above example you are still trusting that Chevy isn't randomly "following" your vehicle for marketing or whatever reasons.....
Many new vehicles have gps.
Not an issue for most vehicle owners. But you steal it and you get caught easier.
Is this spying? While I won't say the analogy is perfect this is still very similar....
Saying that getting a virus leaves you responsible in a way that compares to not have good brakes is invalid.
Sending a virus seems an illegal act by a 3rd party.
A more logical comparision would be in allowing your car to be stolen by not having an alarm or a club. Everyone knows that cars aren't secure without some form of security passed what the manufacturer offers. Or are computers more important legally than cars? Having someone else get into an accident with your car (after they have stolen it) does not leave you responsible.
Removing the battery is not an option for most people.
A few simple scenarios........
Calling in sick on my cell phone. I'd best be home.
Me checking on my local courier and wondering why they are delivering other parcels before they deliver my "important" parcel. Or wondering why my 3:00pm meeting is late when at 2:30 he was in a pub on the other side of town, not caught in traffic like he said.
A hospital about to call in a Doctor - Checks out four or five and calls in the closest - Unfair to the Dr. who has interests in town - and unfair to the rest as the hospital has snooped to see where they where.
All of these are from one side of the argument valid uses but from the other side an intrusion.
"If the car were "Open Sourced" then each piece would have to adhere to some specs that when put together enable a safe car. This is like building a house. The individual pieces are considered safe, and when assembled a safe car will result."
You mean like to do something as simple as putting SAFE michelin tires on SAFE Ford Explorers? These tires seldom had issues on other vehicles and these vehicles seldom had issues with other tires. This is a medley of two parts. Image a medley of 13 or 14 parts.
Read between the lines.
"When people clone things, that often becomes unavoidable."
MS have cloned as much as anyone. It is quite possible and maybe even probably that he knows how heavily travelled this two way street may be.
Yeah. And the odds of my being audited increase or decrease based upon whom I voted for?
You cannot attach the name of the voter to the ballot and expect free votes.
Why go wireless?
I live in a home with multiple computers and multiple users.
If my names on the list a simple format or harddrive swap would leave them with little evidence. As if they could charge my Pa or my Ma or my sister or me with no evidence "inside" the home.
That they "know" one of us did means little. This isn't school where the whole class gets detention. This is court where evidence matters.
"'This is our stadium, and we run the communications for it,' said Chris Metz, a PGE Park... "
What about cell phone communications?
Or palm pilots and the like?
What about communicating to the opposing team that you prefer them (ie, those cheering for the opposition must sit in section 9)?
Now the last example is quite silly, but what is the difference between wireless internet access and cellphone access? Do they have the legal rights to control such?
The ISP's should be billing the RIAA $40 or so per hour (or whatever it costs) to sift through their logs. THere is no way this should be paid for by the ISP. If I try to access records through my local courthouse I pay fees. It is not free for me to get information that I have a right to access. I don't think it should be free in this circumstance either.
If only they could get all computers to do this when the user does something "stupid".
The question is......
What is the difference. If you can cover up an ad online why not on TV. Or is TV special?
I am Pepsi. I pay a software company to create software that finds coke cans in movies and alter them to Pepsi cans. No more than an "ad" does. The customer has "control" of his tv. And what appears.
Imagine watching a Nascar race and seeing the "home depot" car with the "Home Depot" logo covered by the "Target" logo via software. I really am not sure what the legal difference between TV and Computer screens would be. My cable company may be the next purveyor of "ads"....
A recent case here in Canada had me a bit uncomfortable.
A young girl was murdered and police asked Men in the neighbourhood to volunteer DNA samples. About 20 men refused. 19 were innocent and refused for personal reasons. One of these men was eventually implicated in the crime when Police followed these 20 men and picked up "pop cans, et al" used by these men to obtain DNA samples.
This implies - You have no right to refuse to give a DNA sample because one will be taken secretly against your will anyhow.
What happens to these samples? Could I be implicated in a completely separate crime because my second cousin lived NEAR a murder victim who's and had his DNA "stolen" by police?
This can only get scarier without laws to protect us.
3 and 5 hours are about how long this legislation would last if "Continental Airlines" had one of their computer "blown up". Imagine a business with an unregistered copy of winzip getting zapped.
Just as YOU outsource to foreign countries.
See where your car is made, your shoes, your computer, tv - the list goes on. But you save money. The problem isn't your country as much as it is you. Pay more, buy local or take your share of the blame.
Anyone who read the article would see on the top of the page a picture of the alphabet in cursive.
The Q doesn't look like a 2 to me. I am sure there are probably variants, but if anyone actually wants to see the alphabet, rtfa.
So I buy several "fully-refundable tickets" that "are a lot more expensive" and keep the least expensive "a lot more expensive" ticket, returning the rest - and save money?
I seem confused by this.
In a related story, Microsoft was discovered to have copied "Linux code". The company who wrote the code started the process of suing MICROSOFT. Slashdotters argues that MS should just buy this company out or perform a hostile takeover to shut them up - whether they were right or wrong.
Oh, hold it. A slashdotter would NEVER request this to happen if MS were the alleged copyright abuser. MS would therefore being abusing there power.
I am not sure how IBM doing the same thing could be considered proper or moral.
I too hope this all goes away, but I'm not sure I like your method.
Is this a sign of things to come as more and more jurisdictions move to Open Source?
The real story here seems to be that VETO power had to be used. The story doesn't say a lot, but that implies that the government there came very close to passing this. While the governor may be a good guy it still doesn't say a lot for the state.
The iLoo with a web cam - possibly providing a bit more info than most of us need to know.
Linux uses 100% the same hardware as Windows.
It's all in the software.