You are an idiot. The AC was implying that if he was presented something with what he didn't want to hear, he would just dismiss it out of hand. Instead he found his own sources that countered directly what the guy had to say to show that it wasn't a credible source. He didn't just dismiss it, he countered it in an intelligent manner. All you are doing is trying to nitpick some stupid little point that is irrelevant to the overall argument.
Grow up. You are the one trying to use debate techniques that detract from the actual point of the argument.
Umm, what the hell are you talking about? I knew about all of those stories because I watch CNN. Yes, a supposedly liberal news outlet has reported on all those things. Heck, the Mexican drug smuggler thing was on Lou Dobbs last night.
I find it sad that we mod people up who want people to die if they do something stupid now and then (some on your list are awful crimes, but others are just lame). I am sure there are plenty of stupid things that you do and have done. Should we execute you for those things?
Why do you have to label everyone and everything a liberal? It makes me sad that everyone has to be so partisan these days. It is like people actually believe the things that Rush Limbaugh says...which is scary to me. He is a polarizing force that skews things so that everything is the fault of the scary "liberals". Which is stupid, considering the Republicans have been in power and actually held the presidency, the house, and the senate simultaneously and still did nothing. This polarization crap is just like religion fanatics going at it. It reminds me of the guy who went and started to shoot up a church because the "liberal movement" was destroying the country. Seriously, we are all just people. We may have different views but we aren't going to get anywhere if we blame everything wrong in the world on liberalism or conservatism.
It is amazing to me how people on Slashdot who play cracked video games, download mp3s of music they don't own, speed over the speed limit, etc. etc. decide that a guy who sends out a bunch of e-mail for profit should die. And that people who love that person must also be guilty of something. Seriously, get over yourself. How the hell can you say "she knew what kind of relationship she was getting into when she started it"? She knew this guy was going to kill her. This is the second dumbest thing I have read that was moderated up this week. But that one was colossally stupid...any other week you would win.
It blows my minds that mods would moderate this as insightful instead of funny. Obviously, if a murder-suicide perpetrator did 'The Right Thing', we'd have no idea since it would be considered a suicide. Ugh, explaining the joke always kills it:P
Despite being modded up, I think you are horribly wrong. Wanting to skirt around some laws and send a bunch of e-mail to make money has nothing to do with killing people. There are tons of examples (recent even, enron, politicians) of people acting selfishly, going to prison, and not killing people. The fact that he spammed has NOTHING to do with him being more likely to kill his family rather than just himself. This is just a stupid Internet opinion that lacks any bit of logic, facts, or tact.
...so in other words you were just talking out your ass when you said that they have a legal division. Fine, object to the privacy issue...but don't just make stuff up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about.
PS: You also said I think you should be modded flamebait instead of interesting, which is exactly how leftists always respond to speech that they don't like it: Deny it, suppress it, extinguish it, eradicate it, and pretend that it never existed in the first place.
There are ways of making your point without crying liberals. This statement here eradicates any point you may have made because it turns in to less of a debate about what you said and more in to a game of name calling.
It doesn't talk about race...you do. It talks about poverty and crime. You really have labeling issues. We are all people. Trying to pigeon-hole people is just going to get you in to trouble because the world isn't as black and white (pun intended) as you make it out to be.
I don't see anywhere in my statement about my opinion on the blog or the blogger. I am all for the freedom of speech. And what the heck does "real liberal" mean anyways? I don't think anyone can be purely liberal. I lean liberal but still hold a lot of conservative values as well. And if you think saying that I am not a "real liberal" would bother me...than you are just proving more and more that you are a real ass.
I think you should be modded flamebait instead of interesting. While your post IS interesting, it isn't for the right reasons. You are flamebaiting liberals and you don't really make much sense. Let me explain...
The first problem with your post is that you haven't even seen the blog in question. I am assuming this is the case since you use words like "if" when you describe the grammar and spelling. So you are just guessing at this point which is kind of strange. Also, you are stereotyping that white people can spell and black people can't. I guess I don't really have that stereotype in my head, but let's assume that that is accurate and the stereotype exists for some statistically significant reasoning. I could counter that stereotype by saying that most of the cops I know don't really care about their spelling or grammar regardless of their race so I fail to see how that would be so telling to you.
What's even more interesting to me is that you then post a story that has less to do with race and more to do with poverty. Did the public housing have a majority black population? Probably. But the section8 people all had poverty in common, not race. A black doctor living in a neighborhood is probably not going to cause the crime rate to go up in that area.
So, from all this I think you are probably racist. That's a harsh word to throw out there but that is the only reason I would think that you would associate race with your quoted article and also jump to conclusion about the Slashdot article without even seeing the blog.
As far as the liberal jab goes...what you wrote didn't bother me at all. Liberals see poverty as a large problem and are actually trying to address it. The section8 projects sounds like it didn't solve the problem (I don't know this for sure since we don't know if the overall crime rate went down or if crime went from being more concentrated to being more distributed). The crime rate may have gone up in new areas, but maybe those kids had a chance at a better education and it actually improved things overall. At least people are attempting to solve the problem. Republicans just want to help the rich because this supposedly passes the wealth on down to everyone else since they crate jobs etc etc trickle down economics garbage. Unfortunately that just tends to concentrate wealth and cause more poverty. And as the wealth becomes more concentrated at the top, there is less money for the middle and lower class to purchase with, thus harming an American's buying power and his/her ability to shop thus harming the economy. This stuff can be argued back and forth, but that is another side of that argument. I think having some rational social programs is humane and beneficial to the economy. To try to help and fail is better than to not try at all (as long as we are trying to learn and improve). Republicans (neo-cons) are a complete failure since they don't even hold to their conservative mantra. They just borrow and spend which is worse than any liberal Dem would do. I wouldn't mind Republicans if they actually cut spending and reduced taxation as it would help my bottom line. But they don't do that and just put us in huge deficits. So I have to be for the Dems. The redistribution of wealth (as inefficient as it is) is better than throwing the money in to stupid wars and a rising deficit. Hopefully the Republicans can find their conservative roots again...it doesn't seem like the Libertarians will be able to be a factor in this election where it seems like the true conservatism still lives. (wow, that went way out there but at least it has plenty of topics to discuss!)
I find it amusing how Slashdot hates big business like Microsoft yet becomes total hypocrites when it comes to Nintendo and Apple. Nintendo is just as evil (if not more so) than any other company. They may make games you like, but they are still a business trying to maximize their profits. If they took this guy's idea, then they should pay. It doesn't matter if he employs people. If MS took someone else's idea would you say it is ok because MS is used by more people and employs more people? No, you would root for the little guy. But for some reason people are the opposite when it comes to Nintendo.
Actually, if you follow the link, you'll see that that is just the front page. The majority of the site's layout is fine. I agree the front page stats thing takes up too much space but it is just minor quibbling since that is about 1% of the content of the site.
Actually, I think it has more to do with insecurity. Got picked on too much in gym class so now they have to pick on other people because they have the misconception that they are mentally superior (which may or may not be the case). If you are secure in your intelligence, you don't have to play these games. In any case, it's ironic since the EJ guys are actually pretty nice and just hold a site that is for intelligent discussion of the game. They provide info for the benefit of all rather than keep it to themselves (something a true elitist would do).
Actually, Blizzard would probably be the most trusted name in balancing thanks to their work in Starcraft and Warcraft. They have to balance many classes for both PvP and PvE. There is no way that one won't end up stronger than another. Heroic Dungeons was a very good idea because it allowed people to continue to get gear without having to be in a raid. I agree that it becomes boring content-wise, but raiding does the exact same thing so I don't think the criticism works here. I agree that the smaller raid size and difficulty has caused the end game to be less casual friendly. On the other hand, casuals still have options and by definition they are casual and thus not going to have access to the best stuff since they don't have the time or the care to play that much. The first expansion was excellent and I am looking forward to another great one in the future.
All that is irrelevant. I have no problem using it to find quality discussions how to play a class optimally. Content is king. Quibbling about page layout is just arrogance on your part. I don't understand why nerd culture has to belittle everything. Do you really feel that much better about yourself now?
Not that the guy wasn't an idiot...but aren't you taking the whole I'm a man and you are a pussy thing too far? What are you doing in this noble crusade of yours...pirating video games? Posting things on Slashdot? I am sure you are sacrificing yourself to save us all....right...
He was exaggerating for comedic effect. But he has a point, people on this site over-react to these sorts of things. There has to be a balance between privacy and the ability for a company to make a profit. Yes, they crossed the line here, but most of you guys shouldn't be on the internet if you are so afraid of being monitored. Just find a nice cabin somewhere remote and get your shot gun out when the tax man comes...because he might sell your information to telemarketers! Of course, not having a phone solves that problem. That and a nice tin foil hat.
That logic fails. So the percentage of users who would look at the code goes down, but the number of the people who are looking at the code goes up thus allowing the chance to catch more bugs. There is no reason to put in flashing lights that announce a security exploit was patched. It's a bug and should be dealt with as such. People who aren't going to update their systems..well, that's their own problem and that is going to be true no matter what OS they use.
Every time I read a comment like yours on Slashdot and it is modded up it renews my faith in this site. Thanks for ignoring your karma and taking a chance by saying something opposed to the typical Slashdot bias.
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You are an idiot. The AC was implying that if he was presented something with what he didn't want to hear, he would just dismiss it out of hand. Instead he found his own sources that countered directly what the guy had to say to show that it wasn't a credible source. He didn't just dismiss it, he countered it in an intelligent manner. All you are doing is trying to nitpick some stupid little point that is irrelevant to the overall argument.
Grow up. You are the one trying to use debate techniques that detract from the actual point of the argument.
Umm, what the hell are you talking about? I knew about all of those stories because I watch CNN. Yes, a supposedly liberal news outlet has reported on all those things. Heck, the Mexican drug smuggler thing was on Lou Dobbs last night.
I find it sad that we mod people up who want people to die if they do something stupid now and then (some on your list are awful crimes, but others are just lame). I am sure there are plenty of stupid things that you do and have done. Should we execute you for those things?
Why do you have to label everyone and everything a liberal? It makes me sad that everyone has to be so partisan these days. It is like people actually believe the things that Rush Limbaugh says...which is scary to me. He is a polarizing force that skews things so that everything is the fault of the scary "liberals". Which is stupid, considering the Republicans have been in power and actually held the presidency, the house, and the senate simultaneously and still did nothing. This polarization crap is just like religion fanatics going at it. It reminds me of the guy who went and started to shoot up a church because the "liberal movement" was destroying the country. Seriously, we are all just people. We may have different views but we aren't going to get anywhere if we blame everything wrong in the world on liberalism or conservatism.
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" - Two Face
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If only Bill died young!
Your post is just as stupid...you take some idiots post on Slashdot and apply it to all Americans.
It is amazing to me how people on Slashdot who play cracked video games, download mp3s of music they don't own, speed over the speed limit, etc. etc. decide that a guy who sends out a bunch of e-mail for profit should die. And that people who love that person must also be guilty of something. Seriously, get over yourself. How the hell can you say "she knew what kind of relationship she was getting into when she started it"? She knew this guy was going to kill her. This is the second dumbest thing I have read that was moderated up this week. But that one was colossally stupid...any other week you would win.
It blows my minds that mods would moderate this as insightful instead of funny. Obviously, if a murder-suicide perpetrator did 'The Right Thing', we'd have no idea since it would be considered a suicide. Ugh, explaining the joke always kills it :P
Despite being modded up, I think you are horribly wrong. Wanting to skirt around some laws and send a bunch of e-mail to make money has nothing to do with killing people. There are tons of examples (recent even, enron, politicians) of people acting selfishly, going to prison, and not killing people. The fact that he spammed has NOTHING to do with him being more likely to kill his family rather than just himself. This is just a stupid Internet opinion that lacks any bit of logic, facts, or tact.
...so in other words you were just talking out your ass when you said that they have a legal division. Fine, object to the privacy issue...but don't just make stuff up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about.
I'd say "Too soon, man, too soon", but I don't think there is any amount of time that could pass for what you said to be even slightly amusing.
PS: You also said I think you should be modded flamebait instead of interesting, which is exactly how leftists always respond to speech that they don't like it: Deny it, suppress it, extinguish it, eradicate it, and pretend that it never existed in the first place.
There are ways of making your point without crying liberals. This statement here eradicates any point you may have made because it turns in to less of a debate about what you said and more in to a game of name calling.
It doesn't talk about race...you do. It talks about poverty and crime. You really have labeling issues. We are all people. Trying to pigeon-hole people is just going to get you in to trouble because the world isn't as black and white (pun intended) as you make it out to be.
I don't see anywhere in my statement about my opinion on the blog or the blogger. I am all for the freedom of speech. And what the heck does "real liberal" mean anyways? I don't think anyone can be purely liberal. I lean liberal but still hold a lot of conservative values as well. And if you think saying that I am not a "real liberal" would bother me...than you are just proving more and more that you are a real ass.
I think you should be modded flamebait instead of interesting. While your post IS interesting, it isn't for the right reasons. You are flamebaiting liberals and you don't really make much sense. Let me explain...
The first problem with your post is that you haven't even seen the blog in question. I am assuming this is the case since you use words like "if" when you describe the grammar and spelling. So you are just guessing at this point which is kind of strange. Also, you are stereotyping that white people can spell and black people can't. I guess I don't really have that stereotype in my head, but let's assume that that is accurate and the stereotype exists for some statistically significant reasoning. I could counter that stereotype by saying that most of the cops I know don't really care about their spelling or grammar regardless of their race so I fail to see how that would be so telling to you.
What's even more interesting to me is that you then post a story that has less to do with race and more to do with poverty. Did the public housing have a majority black population? Probably. But the section8 people all had poverty in common, not race. A black doctor living in a neighborhood is probably not going to cause the crime rate to go up in that area.
So, from all this I think you are probably racist. That's a harsh word to throw out there but that is the only reason I would think that you would associate race with your quoted article and also jump to conclusion about the Slashdot article without even seeing the blog.
As far as the liberal jab goes...what you wrote didn't bother me at all. Liberals see poverty as a large problem and are actually trying to address it. The section8 projects sounds like it didn't solve the problem (I don't know this for sure since we don't know if the overall crime rate went down or if crime went from being more concentrated to being more distributed). The crime rate may have gone up in new areas, but maybe those kids had a chance at a better education and it actually improved things overall. At least people are attempting to solve the problem. Republicans just want to help the rich because this supposedly passes the wealth on down to everyone else since they crate jobs etc etc trickle down economics garbage. Unfortunately that just tends to concentrate wealth and cause more poverty. And as the wealth becomes more concentrated at the top, there is less money for the middle and lower class to purchase with, thus harming an American's buying power and his/her ability to shop thus harming the economy. This stuff can be argued back and forth, but that is another side of that argument. I think having some rational social programs is humane and beneficial to the economy. To try to help and fail is better than to not try at all (as long as we are trying to learn and improve). Republicans (neo-cons) are a complete failure since they don't even hold to their conservative mantra. They just borrow and spend which is worse than any liberal Dem would do. I wouldn't mind Republicans if they actually cut spending and reduced taxation as it would help my bottom line. But they don't do that and just put us in huge deficits. So I have to be for the Dems. The redistribution of wealth (as inefficient as it is) is better than throwing the money in to stupid wars and a rising deficit. Hopefully the Republicans can find their conservative roots again...it doesn't seem like the Libertarians will be able to be a factor in this election where it seems like the true conservatism still lives. (wow, that went way out there but at least it has plenty of topics to discuss!)
I find it amusing how Slashdot hates big business like Microsoft yet becomes total hypocrites when it comes to Nintendo and Apple. Nintendo is just as evil (if not more so) than any other company. They may make games you like, but they are still a business trying to maximize their profits. If they took this guy's idea, then they should pay. It doesn't matter if he employs people. If MS took someone else's idea would you say it is ok because MS is used by more people and employs more people? No, you would root for the little guy. But for some reason people are the opposite when it comes to Nintendo.
True. WoW's classes are rock, paper, scissors. Except Warlocks...they are mushrooms. (hope someone else gets this reference)
Actually, if you follow the link, you'll see that that is just the front page. The majority of the site's layout is fine. I agree the front page stats thing takes up too much space but it is just minor quibbling since that is about 1% of the content of the site.
Actually, I think it has more to do with insecurity. Got picked on too much in gym class so now they have to pick on other people because they have the misconception that they are mentally superior (which may or may not be the case). If you are secure in your intelligence, you don't have to play these games. In any case, it's ironic since the EJ guys are actually pretty nice and just hold a site that is for intelligent discussion of the game. They provide info for the benefit of all rather than keep it to themselves (something a true elitist would do).
Actually, Blizzard would probably be the most trusted name in balancing thanks to their work in Starcraft and Warcraft. They have to balance many classes for both PvP and PvE. There is no way that one won't end up stronger than another. Heroic Dungeons was a very good idea because it allowed people to continue to get gear without having to be in a raid. I agree that it becomes boring content-wise, but raiding does the exact same thing so I don't think the criticism works here. I agree that the smaller raid size and difficulty has caused the end game to be less casual friendly. On the other hand, casuals still have options and by definition they are casual and thus not going to have access to the best stuff since they don't have the time or the care to play that much. The first expansion was excellent and I am looking forward to another great one in the future.
All that is irrelevant. I have no problem using it to find quality discussions how to play a class optimally. Content is king. Quibbling about page layout is just arrogance on your part. I don't understand why nerd culture has to belittle everything. Do you really feel that much better about yourself now?
Not to nitpick, but that is only the current subscribers ;)
Bull shit. Piracy is not "sometimes necessary" due to copy prevention schemes. The company could have come up with their own bypass.
Not that the guy wasn't an idiot...but aren't you taking the whole I'm a man and you are a pussy thing too far? What are you doing in this noble crusade of yours...pirating video games? Posting things on Slashdot? I am sure you are sacrificing yourself to save us all....right...
He was exaggerating for comedic effect. But he has a point, people on this site over-react to these sorts of things. There has to be a balance between privacy and the ability for a company to make a profit. Yes, they crossed the line here, but most of you guys shouldn't be on the internet if you are so afraid of being monitored. Just find a nice cabin somewhere remote and get your shot gun out when the tax man comes...because he might sell your information to telemarketers! Of course, not having a phone solves that problem. That and a nice tin foil hat.
You totally missed his point.
That logic fails. So the percentage of users who would look at the code goes down, but the number of the people who are looking at the code goes up thus allowing the chance to catch more bugs. There is no reason to put in flashing lights that announce a security exploit was patched. It's a bug and should be dealt with as such. People who aren't going to update their systems..well, that's their own problem and that is going to be true no matter what OS they use.
Every time I read a comment like yours on Slashdot and it is modded up it renews my faith in this site. Thanks for ignoring your karma and taking a chance by saying something opposed to the typical Slashdot bias.