The spatial nautilus took me all of 30 seconds to get used to and I still use it today...though I use aterm more in day to day stuff.
But hey folks, it's not rocket science here. It's very easy to use, and it's very easy to get used to. But some people just "I don't want to get used to it! I hate it! HATE IT! I'll never use it!".
I seem to remember that OSX had a new interface also that people had to spend a little time getting used to it. And I recall in the pre-press shop I worked at people saying "I don't want to get used to it! I hate it! HATE IT!" with that too. But after a few days they couldn't live without it.
People hate change. But hey, if you don't want to use it, don't use it. Use kde or fluxbox or _______(insert window manager here).
Laugh it up, but that's exactly what I run in my make.conf file. I built this system from the ground up with those settings and haven't had a lick of problems with it.
Of course, having just said that my computer will burst into flames...so forget I said anything.
How about cheap as in $0 for my OS that I'm writing on right now.
Let's see here, it cost 0 for web brower, email client, multimedia jukebox with CD burning and portable device management, image and text editor, tons of fun little games, easy file and setting manipulation, a platform that plays 100% of software I run (and want to run) and free upgrades forever.
Hmmm...yep, Windows sure is cheaper.
Considering I get much much more for my 0 dollars with Linux though I'll stick with that.
Also, I built this machine for less than 500 bucks and it would have tipped it close to 600 if I had also bought Windows to put on it. I'm not a computer expert nor a professional nor a programmer. I'm not a genius, but I figured out how to build a computer from scratch and then compile and run Gentoo Linux on it. It's very easy really. People only say it's hard because they've never done it. If they get off their asses and actually try to do something, they'll find that it's not hard at all and actually quite easy.
This is the "spray and pray" theory of Photography...which isn't always the best.
When dealing with Photography, someone always invokes the name Ansel Adams....so let me be the first.
Ansel always preached "pre-visualzation" in his Zone System and also for composition.
He saw the picture before he ever took the picture. He taught about this technique all through his life. Ansel didn't take hundreds of pictures to get a dozen really great shots. He lugged glass plates and 8x10 cameras up mountains, so he didn't have the film in the remote locations to "spray and pray".
Now, does this help Joe Sixpack with his digital camera and Photoshop? Yes, if he's really interested in making his photography better. I would suggest picking up The Camera, The Negative and The Print from Adams. It's the old way of photography, but it has a ton of usefull information.
Ashcroft, a religious man who does not drink alcohol or caffeine, smoke, gamble or dance, and has fought unrelenting criticism that he has trod roughshod on civil liberties in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, is taking on the porn industry at a time when many experts say Americans are wary about government intrusion into their lives.
Can we really trust a person like this? So much for me being raised with "the US is a free country, not like the Soviet Union" that was beaten into our heads at school over and over and over. If it's a free country, then an adult should be able to watch anything they want.
But I say bring it on...we'll fight this again...and win again like Flynt did before. Why are they wasting their time with this? Is it because they want to look moral? It's like the goofy admendment banning flag burning. I mean, come on. They KNOW this would be shot down by the Supreme Court...free speech and freedom of expression and all that. They are just posturing...so they can say "see, I'm against this...I'm Mr. Morals...come vote for me".
Aren't there more pressing issues Ashcroft should be looking into? Guess not. It's a "don't worry about what we do...we know what's good for you and we'll decide what's best".
I know this is flamebait...but I'll respond anyway in case anyone took him serious.
The Mac totally owns the multi billion dollar printing industry. Yes, there are some places that use windows...but they are VERY far and few between.
But the Mac totally and completly is the giant in the printing industry. And now is getting to the point where they are in the movie industry also...with Shake and Final Cut Pro which are used on many types of movies.
But yet there is a loop-hole in there that allows news photographers to take any picture they want and run it in a newspaper with no one's permission...if it is part of a news story.
There seems to be a grey area here. You need permission if you're going to print a photo in a book, yet a newspaper can print anything they want.
Or am I wrong about this? If so, what is the law here?
I have a Linux machine and a WinXP machine that my wife uses. I'd probably use it to link them up. It would probably be faster than my Linksys router I'm using now.
It could probably even take another computer on it too...but I wouldn't want to push it.
If they settle, they're guilty. Thats how the public sees it and in truth that's the way I see it.
So what that there is a clause in there. If they pay money out, then they have something to hide, and they're only paying it off so when they lose in court, it will be MUCH more than the payoff. So yes, it would be cheaper than being found guilty.
If they WERE right, they could take it all the way to court knowing that they would win...and then having the other side pay the court costs. MS didn't do this, they knew they were wrong and GUILTY so they decided to pay their way out...again.
These green people are ultimatly interested in saving the human race...not the planet.
Do we really think that we, with a few fossil fuels and other environmental crap we throw into the air and water over the past 150 year, can really change the Earth?
The Earth will shuck us off like a bad case of fleas. 1 million years from now...which is but an eyeblink to the Earth...we'll be long gone. A footnote as it were. The Earth will heal itself.
So please, stop with the "Save the planet" high-horse. The planet isn't going anywhere...WE ARE! So say what you really mean...save the humans.
Reminds me of something similar I did to a co-worker.
I wrote and designed this application that perfectly simulated seti@home and it too popped up and informed him that he found a signal. Then I wrote a spoof email as if it was sent from seti@home telling him that they would be in contact with him.
I hired 5 actors and got Air Force uniforms for them to wear, making sure their hair cuts were just right, and then proceeded to go to his house and give him some garbage that I had written out as a script. They told him that the Aliens had requested that they contact him personally and that they would be there that Friday at noon.
I made up a mock up of the ship from Independance Day from syrafoam and paper mache, made it to scale also, which ment it was 1 mile across, and lifted it with several helium blimps inside the structure and then hauled it to his house. I contacted O'hare airport and had them re-direct traffic around the blimp/ship as it being 1 mile in diameter it could have caused problems.
Of course ILM wanted to get in on the gag too so I let them mock up some really nice Alien bodies and make-up effects...which really pissed off Stan Winston Studios...but that's a long story..
I got then-president Clinton to come in on the gag and the secret service also. It was pretty funny.
Of course.. we then realised we had gone slighly too far and had to tell him..
Wasn't really a cover story, it was a a strip in the corner that simply said "Inside: The Year's Best Movie".
The cover was really of Menachem Begin.
But even the article states that Star Wars was going to be a sleeper hit since little to no fanfare was being given it...but this is from memory as I don't have a copy laying around. My memory may be shot...it was a while ago.
Then this flies in the face of history. I wasn't stating opinion that it was a sleeper. It's a fact.
Also, remember, by the time it go to Columbus Ohio, it had already been out for a while in the larger markets like New York and LA.
I was 15 when Star Wars came out, it came totally out of no where and caught everyone off guard. There were no toys at first. There was very very little advertising at first.
Star Wars was a Sleeper. Just because there was a line out the door on the first show in your town doesn't negate it was a sleeper.
You make some really good points. I never thought of it this way.
This could also be the reason so many people latched onto the Lord of the Rings movies. We finally connected with a group of movies that sent us off and gave us an experience like when we first saw Star Wars back in 77, yet it didn't pander at all to 8 or 10 year olds but shot squarly at adults.
Which is why my 10 year old loves The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones but doesn't even care about any of the LOTR movies. But it's so nice that we both connect on the Harry Potter books and movies. Something my Father and I never did together...share a common love of something.
you would remember it was all the rage *before* it was released
Actually, the original Star Wars was a sleeper. Meaning that it didn't get released with a lot of fanfair in May of 1977. It came out of no where. They didn't have a lot of cash left over for advertising the movie. You have to remember, they didn't thik this was really going to work and it only cost 9 million to make. Even in 1977, 9 million wasn't a lot of money to make a movie.
Only after it became a hit that summer did all the hype build about it through the only means of the day, word of mouth.
Not until the 3rd one did it really get any attention and even then it was mainly the unwashed masses..which in the late 70's were abundant
By the 3rd one I'm assuming you're saying "Return of the Jedi"?
If so, then sorry to say, you're just dead wrong. I suppose you were not alive when the first Star Wars came out in 1977? The world basically stopped when that movie came out. We're talking EVERYONE was talking and buzzing around about Star Wars. You couldn't turn on a TV, couldn't listen to the radio, couldn't go to any other movie without seeing a huge line of people waiting to get in and seeing it again.
Not to mention the fact that Star Wars was nominated for best picture of the year of 1977. What beat it out? Annie Hall. But to say that not until the 3rd one did it really get any attention is just...well, wrong. I'm certainly not a fan-boy of Star Wars, but I just can't let this slip by. Mainly because it kind of annoying to see Star Wars everywhere. And I mean everywhere. And it took forever for it to calm down.
Artwork? Probably not. Plain and simple fun? You betcha. Also, Lucas made it originally to be like a serial B movie that he grew up on,
Also, not to be picky, but the 2nd and 3rd one didn't even come out until the early 80's. But I suppose the 80's had their share of unwashed masses for you.
Of course they have to surf on lava. And obviously it's Anikin that wipes out.
Don't you remember in the original Star Wars the guy that Vader choked in the conference room originally said:
"Dude, I saw you back in '05 when you like totally wiped-it with that big tube that like came down dude...you rememeber...that was awesome...you were like totally goofy-footin it man and like, that one bogus dude was like trying to bogart your wave man...that's just totally bogus..."
But they had to cut that out because it didn't fit. Now of course, they can put it back into "Star Wars:A New Hope and Greedo-shoots-first"
This is Information Retrieval not Information Dispersal...Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the right man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong?
My name's Lowry. Sam Lowry. I've been told to report to Mr. Warrenn. Thirtieth floor, sir. You're expected. Um... don't you want to search me? No sir. Do you want to see my ID? No need, sir. But I could be anybody. No you couldn't sir. This is Information Retrieval.
There you are, your own number on your very own door. And behind that door, your very own office! Welcome to the team, D7-105! Welcome to Information Retrieval
But then wouldn't they also post warnings about anything metal around the gas pumps? Don't drop your keys, they could make a spark on the asphalt...slight chance to be sure, but possible. Also, what if you carry around a lot of flint in your pocket, and you go and get your money out and a few pieces of flint fall to the asphalt or concrete and make a spark? They don't say anything about not carrying flint in your pockets!
Next you'll hear them telling us not to light up a smoke near the pump. Now that's just silly.
I remember seeing this on the TV show Mythbusters. They tried and tried to get a number of cell phones to ignite gas vapors, but failed every time.
They said in the show you were more likely to ignite the vapors from static discharge that's built up from your car and not grounding yourself before touching the pump.
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I use gnome 2.6.
The spatial nautilus took me all of 30 seconds to get used to and I still use it today...though I use aterm more in day to day stuff.
But hey folks, it's not rocket science here. It's very easy to use, and it's very easy to get used to. But some people just "I don't want to get used to it! I hate it! HATE IT! I'll never use it!".
I seem to remember that OSX had a new interface also that people had to spend a little time getting used to it. And I recall in the pre-press shop I worked at people saying "I don't want to get used to it! I hate it! HATE IT!" with that too. But after a few days they couldn't live without it.
People hate change. But hey, if you don't want to use it, don't use it. Use kde or fluxbox or _______(insert window manager here).
Ahh...the sweet smell of choice!
Laugh it up, but that's exactly what I run in my make.conf file. I built this system from the ground up with those settings and haven't had a lick of problems with it.
Of course, having just said that my computer will burst into flames...so forget I said anything.
How about cheap as in $0 for my OS that I'm writing on right now.
Let's see here, it cost 0 for web brower, email client, multimedia jukebox with CD burning and portable device management, image and text editor, tons of fun little games, easy file and setting manipulation, a platform that plays 100% of software I run (and want to run) and free upgrades forever.
Hmmm...yep, Windows sure is cheaper.
Considering I get much much more for my 0 dollars with Linux though I'll stick with that.
Also, I built this machine for less than 500 bucks and it would have tipped it close to 600 if I had also bought Windows to put on it. I'm not a computer expert nor a professional nor a programmer. I'm not a genius, but I figured out how to build a computer from scratch and then compile and run Gentoo Linux on it. It's very easy really. People only say it's hard because they've never done it. If they get off their asses and actually try to do something, they'll find that it's not hard at all and actually quite easy.
This is the "spray and pray" theory of Photography...which isn't always the best.
When dealing with Photography, someone always invokes the name Ansel Adams....so let me be the first.
Ansel always preached "pre-visualzation" in his Zone System and also for composition.
He saw the picture before he ever took the picture. He taught about this technique all through his life. Ansel didn't take hundreds of pictures to get a dozen really great shots. He lugged glass plates and 8x10 cameras up mountains, so he didn't have the film in the remote locations to "spray and pray".
Now, does this help Joe Sixpack with his digital camera and Photoshop? Yes, if he's really interested in making his photography better. I would suggest picking up The Camera, The Negative and The Print from Adams. It's the old way of photography, but it has a ton of usefull information.
Ashcroft, a religious man who does not drink alcohol or caffeine, smoke, gamble or dance, and has fought unrelenting criticism that he has trod roughshod on civil liberties in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, is taking on the porn industry at a time when many experts say Americans are wary about government intrusion into their lives.
Can we really trust a person like this? So much for me being raised with "the US is a free country, not like the Soviet Union" that was beaten into our heads at school over and over and over. If it's a free country, then an adult should be able to watch anything they want.
But I say bring it on...we'll fight this again...and win again like Flynt did before. Why are they wasting their time with this? Is it because they want to look moral? It's like the goofy admendment banning flag burning. I mean, come on. They KNOW this would be shot down by the Supreme Court...free speech and freedom of expression and all that. They are just posturing...so they can say "see, I'm against this...I'm Mr. Morals...come vote for me".
Aren't there more pressing issues Ashcroft should be looking into? Guess not. It's a "don't worry about what we do...we know what's good for you and we'll decide what's best".
I want out...
I know this is flamebait...but I'll respond anyway in case anyone took him serious.
The Mac totally owns the multi billion dollar printing industry. Yes, there are some places that use windows...but they are VERY far and few between.
But the Mac totally and completly is the giant in the printing industry. And now is getting to the point where they are in the movie industry also...with Shake and Final Cut Pro which are used on many types of movies.
But yet there is a loop-hole in there that allows news photographers to take any picture they want and run it in a newspaper with no one's permission...if it is part of a news story.
There seems to be a grey area here. You need permission if you're going to print a photo in a book, yet a newspaper can print anything they want.
Or am I wrong about this? If so, what is the law here?
MYTH ALERT!!
This isn't true. I refer you to Snopes.com
I have a Linux machine and a WinXP machine that my wife uses. I'd probably use it to link them up. It would probably be faster than my Linksys router I'm using now.
It could probably even take another computer on it too...but I wouldn't want to push it.
If they settle, they're guilty. Thats how the public sees it and in truth that's the way I see it.
So what that there is a clause in there. If they pay money out, then they have something to hide, and they're only paying it off so when they lose in court, it will be MUCH more than the payoff. So yes, it would be cheaper than being found guilty.
If they WERE right, they could take it all the way to court knowing that they would win...and then having the other side pay the court costs. MS didn't do this, they knew they were wrong and GUILTY so they decided to pay their way out...again.
These green people are ultimatly interested in saving the human race...not the planet.
Do we really think that we, with a few fossil fuels and other environmental crap we throw into the air and water over the past 150 year, can really change the Earth?
The Earth will shuck us off like a bad case of fleas. 1 million years from now...which is but an eyeblink to the Earth...we'll be long gone. A footnote as it were. The Earth will heal itself.
So please, stop with the "Save the planet" high-horse. The planet isn't going anywhere...WE ARE! So say what you really mean...save the humans.
(paraphrased quite a bit from George Carlin btw)
This is true, but don't forget, there were not many VCR's back in 1977. And Star Wars didn't come out in video until like the early 80s.
Hard to belive that just 27 years ago we didn't have computers in our homes, the internet, VCR's and the like.
I try to explain this to my 10 year old and he looks at me like I'm crazy.
Reminds me of something similar I did to a co-worker.
I wrote and designed this application that perfectly simulated seti@home and it too popped up and informed him that he found a signal. Then I wrote a spoof email as if it was sent from seti@home telling him that they would be in contact with him.
I hired 5 actors and got Air Force uniforms for them to wear, making sure their hair cuts were just right, and then proceeded to go to his house and give him some garbage that I had written out as a script. They told him that the Aliens had requested that they contact him personally and that they would be there that Friday at noon.
I made up a mock up of the ship from Independance Day from syrafoam and paper mache, made it to scale also, which ment it was 1 mile across, and lifted it with several helium blimps inside the structure and then hauled it to his house. I contacted O'hare airport and had them re-direct traffic around the blimp/ship as it being 1 mile in diameter it could have caused problems.
Of course ILM wanted to get in on the gag too so I let them mock up some really nice Alien bodies and make-up effects...which really pissed off Stan Winston Studios...but that's a long story..
I got then-president Clinton to come in on the gag and the secret service also. It was pretty funny.
Of course.. we then realised we had gone slighly too far and had to tell him..
Wasn't really a cover story, it was a a strip in the corner that simply said "Inside: The Year's Best Movie".
The cover was really of Menachem Begin.
But even the article states that Star Wars was going to be a sleeper hit since little to no fanfare was being given it...but this is from memory as I don't have a copy laying around. My memory may be shot...it was a while ago.
Then this flies in the face of history. I wasn't stating opinion that it was a sleeper. It's a fact.
Also, remember, by the time it go to Columbus Ohio, it had already been out for a while in the larger markets like New York and LA.
I was 15 when Star Wars came out, it came totally out of no where and caught everyone off guard. There were no toys at first. There was very very little advertising at first.
Star Wars was a Sleeper. Just because there was a line out the door on the first show in your town doesn't negate it was a sleeper.
Wow
You make some really good points. I never thought of it this way.
This could also be the reason so many people latched onto the Lord of the Rings movies. We finally connected with a group of movies that sent us off and gave us an experience like when we first saw Star Wars back in 77, yet it didn't pander at all to 8 or 10 year olds but shot squarly at adults.
Which is why my 10 year old loves The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones but doesn't even care about any of the LOTR movies. But it's so nice that we both connect on the Harry Potter books and movies. Something my Father and I never did together...share a common love of something.
you would remember it was all the rage *before* it was released
Actually, the original Star Wars was a sleeper. Meaning that it didn't get released with a lot of fanfair in May of 1977. It came out of no where. They didn't have a lot of cash left over for advertising the movie. You have to remember, they didn't thik this was really going to work and it only cost 9 million to make. Even in 1977, 9 million wasn't a lot of money to make a movie.
Only after it became a hit that summer did all the hype build about it through the only means of the day, word of mouth.
Not until the 3rd one did it really get any attention and even then it was mainly the unwashed masses..which in the late 70's were abundant
By the 3rd one I'm assuming you're saying "Return of the Jedi"?
If so, then sorry to say, you're just dead wrong. I suppose you were not alive when the first Star Wars came out in 1977? The world basically stopped when that movie came out. We're talking EVERYONE was talking and buzzing around about Star Wars. You couldn't turn on a TV, couldn't listen to the radio, couldn't go to any other movie without seeing a huge line of people waiting to get in and seeing it again.
Not to mention the fact that Star Wars was nominated for best picture of the year of 1977. What beat it out? Annie Hall. But to say that not until the 3rd one did it really get any attention is just...well, wrong. I'm certainly not a fan-boy of Star Wars, but I just can't let this slip by. Mainly because it kind of annoying to see Star Wars everywhere. And I mean everywhere. And it took forever for it to calm down.
Artwork? Probably not. Plain and simple fun? You betcha. Also, Lucas made it originally to be like a serial B movie that he grew up on,
Also, not to be picky, but the 2nd and 3rd one didn't even come out until the early 80's. But I suppose the 80's had their share of unwashed masses for you.
Nah, Lucas will be trying to get back what he once had...but now Peter Jackson has it.
So he'll try to go with something like:
"Star Wars: Return of the Two King Towers of the Jedi"
Of course they have to surf on lava. And obviously it's Anikin that wipes out.
Don't you remember in the original Star Wars the guy that Vader choked in the conference room originally said:
"Dude, I saw you back in '05 when you like totally wiped-it with that big tube that like came down dude...you rememeber...that was awesome...you were like totally goofy-footin it man and like, that one bogus dude was like trying to bogart your wave man...that's just totally bogus..."
But they had to cut that out because it didn't fit. Now of course, they can put it back into "Star Wars:A New Hope and Greedo-shoots-first"
This is Information Retrieval not Information Dispersal...Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the right man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong?
My name's Lowry. Sam Lowry. I've been told to report to Mr. Warrenn.
Thirtieth floor, sir. You're expected.
Um... don't you want to search me?
No sir.
Do you want to see my ID?
No need, sir.
But I could be anybody.
No you couldn't sir. This is Information Retrieval.
There you are, your own number on your very own door. And behind that door, your very own office! Welcome to the team, D7-105! Welcome to Information Retrieval
But then wouldn't they also post warnings about anything metal around the gas pumps? Don't drop your keys, they could make a spark on the asphalt...slight chance to be sure, but possible. Also, what if you carry around a lot of flint in your pocket, and you go and get your money out and a few pieces of flint fall to the asphalt or concrete and make a spark? They don't say anything about not carrying flint in your pockets!
Next you'll hear them telling us not to light up a smoke near the pump. Now that's just silly.
lol
Slashdots "this was on Mythbusters" cup runneth over.....
Popular show I guess.
Also, from what I remember from the episode, they had a hard time just igniting the vapors at all, much less from a cell phone.
I remember seeing this on the TV show Mythbusters. They tried and tried to get a number of cell phones to ignite gas vapors, but failed every time.
They said in the show you were more likely to ignite the vapors from static discharge that's built up from your car and not grounding yourself before touching the pump.
Anyone else remember this episode?
I KNEW that Linux was an evil, godless OS. Just look at the people that
are behind Linux and the Open Software movement!
Linus Torvalds
Richard Stallman
Steve Wozniak (hacker, when the term "hacker" ment a good guy)
Bill Gates (everyone knows he uses Linux at home)
Asia Carrera (Adult star and computer geek (yes, for real...she kicked
my ass in UT2003 many times))
John Malkovich (he saw someone using Linux once)
I found them all on Celebatheists.
And by the way, I use Linux (Gentoo) and I'm an atheist.