as long as there is a demand, there were will be a supplier. fine the suppliers, arrest the suppliers... hell, kill them even. but while there still exist the droves of doe-eyed sheep (mix those metaphors!) who are willing to buy "spam-vertized" goods and services, there will be spammers.
Gee, do you think this applies to the Microsoft products too? Just a thought:)
Thank you. I thought your rather immature comment was quite funny as well.
Look. The thought ran across my head, and it certainly has its merits. Are they going to represent content in this model internet? Are they just going to represent the servers themselves? So the thought lead to that post. If you don't like it, fine. But you really don't need to be so childish in saying so.
Regardless of whether Microsoft is the goverment, this still IS a freedom of speech issue. Sure, you aren't being moderated by the goverment, but doesn't this have to do with when and where we are allowed to post our own views, and the restrictions and penalties of doing so?
Jesus, we're counting film, and film duplicates, and god knows how many billion blogs shooting around the internet?
Christ, this doesn't say anything about more "info" or "data" existing in our world at all! Look, every day around you there are people talking, there are smells, there are notes passed from kid to kid. Data has existed in our world forever. It isn't that our world has taken on more data than ever before, because it hasn't. If anything, there is better worldwide connectivity to said data. But more of it? Look, I bet in my own single body there's more data than exists on the internet. We've got the graphical coordinates of all my molecules, exactly what type they are taking upon, where they are going... the amount of data here is practically infinite. Once again, I restate my point: there is not a rediculously overwhelming amount of information or data in the world anymore. It's data in a particular form.
I realize that this is probably not what the authors meant, but people need to think about this. Data exists outside the electronic form!
Oh no, he's absolutely right. I mean, just look at Internet Explorer. Microsoft does an amazing job of patching that up nice and quick. Like CSS. Boy am I ever glad they fixed that whole CSS problem that we've been begging them to fix for years. Ho boy.
#1: Kobo Deluxe - addictive overhead space shooter
#2: nethack - THE RPG. Prepare to not get any work done.
#3: Frozen Bubble - A clone of Puzzle Bobble (aka bust-a-move) that's so good, I think it even outdoes the orginal. The music is just plain awesome... my friend burned it onto a CD and we listen to it in the car whenever we go driving.
#4: Armagetron - It's like... Tron lightcycles.... except in 3D... and so much more awesome.
#5: Ur Quan Masters - This is basically Star Control 2 released open source. What are you waiting for? GO!!!!
#6: Pingus - Lemmings for Linux, really. Includes functional level editor. Really, I couldn't ask for anything more.
Ah, making comics will be ever so much the easier now:)
Honestly, this makes me quite happy, because the Gimp is my favorite of all graphic editors.... yes, much better than photoshop or paint shop pro. Makes me wonder if these improvements are going to be ported there way over to Cinepaint?
I attend college at a smaller campus of DePaul University, Barat, and I've tried to talk to not just the technical workers here, but those responsible for company decisions at DePaul that would relate to such a move. But nobody seems interested in listening. This may or may not have something to do with me being "just another undergrad student" though. Regardless of that, my university spends hundreds of thousands of dollars every year than they need to on their computers, and much more inconvenience.
Allow me to explain the monetary loss first. It isn't just the maintenance. Far before there is any actual need for technical modernization, they replace old ones that have gotten "slow" over time. This is caused for a number of reasons: first there is Microsoft's less efficient filesystem, which experiences so much more fragmentation than the ext filesystems on Linux that I can only reasonably calculate the difference by exponential values. But worse yet is the user's ability to run executable files that can do whatever they well please on the system. This means not only viruses are let loose on the machine, but all sorts of little programs, many with spyware. And they all hog up the system memory. Somehow the public misunderstands and thinks that somehow computers are supposed to go one millionth the speed they originally ran at a year later.
Now it is true that a user could let loose a virus on the computer if Linux was running. They could potentially lose the paper that they worked oh ever so hard on. But this won't make it so that the entire system needs to be redone in order to fix the problem. The system itself will not be damaged, and with restrictions on hard drive use, you can prevent a worm from taking over the entire system. It's really very simple to just remove one user and put in another. But let's look at what happens now with our lovely microsoft machines when a virus gets loose... nobody gets to use the system, it's screwed up for everyone who comes in afterwards. Likewise the problem persists with users installing a billion programs on one computer that just hog resources... there really isn't much the person who wants to get on and get off next can do about it. If there was Linux (or potentially even BSD, though I am not as familliar with this OS) on there, it would be easy enough to just log off that user and log back in as another, even an anonymous one.
There is, of course, the common objection to Linux: "It's too difficult for normal users." No, it might be more of a challenge for administrators, which is in some respects somewhat arguable, but let me point out something. Most users on Windows have no idea what the hell they are doing, outside of opening a browser and a word processor. A well set up system on Linux is just as easy to use. It's really all the fancy things people hear about in Linux that makes them think it is automatically difficult, or the install process (reminder that most people get a computer with Windows pre-installed, and they never have to deal with something like formatting a hard drive, so when they see someone setting up a Linux computer for the first time, they think that to use it will be beyond their understanding... or such is what I have found). Let me give an example... my friend recently went and installed Linux on his Dad's computer. He spent a few minutes explaining the basics on the computer, which button opens Mozilla, how to browse through the filesystems on the GUI and how you right click and tell the system to mount the drive you want it to run. Other than the basics, which with most distributions are so well laid out that even an absolutely new user will understand immediately, there really wasn't anything more his dad needed to know. His dad called him up a while ago, though.
"There's something funny about my computer now that you've installed Linux," his dad said.
"Yeah? What's that?" said my friend.
"Well it isn't crashing any more."
"Well yeah," said my friend. "It's very rare that Linux ever crashes."
"Really?" His father was silent for a moment. "I always thought that computers just normally crash."
While I highly disagree about the parent's post, I think it's something to contemplate. However, let me give my analysis piece by piece of the parent's argument. (sorry this is so offtopic, but sometimes the most insightful discussions come from deviating from the topic anyway)
As a practical matter the Linux community has effectively announced its desire to destroy Microsoft, SCO, and as a practical matter, Sun.
Who exactly are you addressing as the Linux community here? Certainly not Linus Torvalds, who has disconnected himself repeatedly from the anti-Microsoft war by showing indifference. As for the rest of Linux users, sure, there are many anti-Microsoft users... but this certainly does not encompass all. And, if we are going to make generalizations, most Linux users aren't for the "taking down" of Microsoft by force, but by the voluntary migration away from the Windows platform to other alternatives.
Linux users certainly are retalliating against SCO, but this is really because what SCO is doing is destroying Linux altogether, for the sake of money. Isn't this like trying to stop someone from ripping your house from underneath your feet?
As for the Sun issue... I really don't know why you think Linux users are attacking Sun. I don't know any Linux users who feel any need to speak out against Sun at all.
Linux is moving from something cool and useful into becoming a jihad.
I guess I just don't see what you mean. As far as I can tell, the Linux movement is as close to a jihad as... well... I can't even think of anything. I can't think of anything that's less similar. Perhaps, somewhere, there are two or three people out there whose mouth foam with penguins and really might be that crazy. But then again, there were, at one time, a few students wearing trenchcoats that shot up a bunch of their classmates. But is this a fair reason to believe that every person wearing a trenchcoat is going to go mad and shoot people? I would hope not. There are crazy people affiliated with everything.
So explain to me, if you would, how Linux is similar to a jihad. Because I just don't seem to get it.
So often this is what goes wrong with business. Obsession with money leads to destruction. Whatever happened to the co-existence theory... or has it ever gone anywhere?
On that note, using Verisign's software, if you aren't sure who you want to vote, you can just put an asterisk after the first letter, and Verisign will choose whoever has the corresponding last name that paid them the most money!
I forget where I heard this, but the first public showing of the film projector was an image of a train flying toward the audience. It was very low quality, it was black and white, there was no sound, but a few people in the audience fainted with fright.
Wow... that thing is long... and huge! And so many levers! I mean, could you imagine how nuts it would be to play this thing singleplayer if you got a multiball combo?
Sounds like exercise to me. Wait... I don't like exercise! But it's also pinball! Oh, it's just not fair!
Hm. It is possible that you are correct, but regardless, their service is messed up. I figured this much since I tested misspelling a few sites, even my own, and ended up with sites that weren't anywhere near mine in spelling.
I mean really. www.lingocomics.com should really say www.lingocomic.com as a close match, but look what it gives instead. I am also registered through GoDaddy.
that the sitefinder "service" only returns domains by verisign customers? Kind of negates the defense that the sitefinder utility is helping people across the internet find what they really need.
Repeat after me, everyone: I will never buy another CD from the RIAA again.
This actually isn't such a bad idea. I've been thinking, why not a website that lists independent artists' music only, to let people know of an alternative? See, I don't want to just stop listening to music. But I want to listen to music by artists that aren't under the RIAA. Anyone know of such a site, or have any plans to put one together?
Sigh. This moronic bill will probably pass because anyone who opposes it will be accused of promoting child molestation.
I've got an idea, though it's an idea I'd normally not be too happy with. But given the circumstances, I think it's something worth taking into consideration. Considering that one of the attacks in this is a child's exposure to pornography, why not create P2P services with parental block measures, just like they have for browsers? I think our congressmen should support that idea, that way they're less likely to be accused. Now, what to stop the claims of sexual molestation of children?
Speaking of the word gateway, Gateway the computer company has founded a tech college somewhere in Wisconsin. That has always disturbed me. But not nearly as much as in Chicago, where there is a high school funded by Oscar Meyer. I guess I'm biased because of the Simpsons episode... I wouldn't my kids studying "baloneyum" instead of real elements.
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as long as there is a demand, there were will be a supplier. fine the suppliers, arrest the suppliers... hell, kill them even. but while there still exist the droves of doe-eyed sheep (mix those metaphors!) who are willing to buy "spam-vertized" goods and services, there will be spammers.
:)
Gee, do you think this applies to the Microsoft products too? Just a thought
Thank you. I thought your rather immature comment was quite funny as well.
Look. The thought ran across my head, and it certainly has its merits. Are they going to represent content in this model internet? Are they just going to represent the servers themselves? So the thought lead to that post. If you don't like it, fine. But you really don't need to be so childish in saying so.
I mean, will sixty percent of it be model porn?
Regardless of whether Microsoft is the goverment, this still IS a freedom of speech issue. Sure, you aren't being moderated by the goverment, but doesn't this have to do with when and where we are allowed to post our own views, and the restrictions and penalties of doing so?
Jesus, we're counting film, and film duplicates, and god knows how many billion blogs shooting around the internet?
Christ, this doesn't say anything about more "info" or "data" existing in our world at all! Look, every day around you there are people talking, there are smells, there are notes passed from kid to kid. Data has existed in our world forever. It isn't that our world has taken on more data than ever before, because it hasn't. If anything, there is better worldwide connectivity to said data. But more of it? Look, I bet in my own single body there's more data than exists on the internet. We've got the graphical coordinates of all my molecules, exactly what type they are taking upon, where they are going... the amount of data here is practically infinite. Once again, I restate my point: there is not a rediculously overwhelming amount of information or data in the world anymore. It's data in a particular form.
I realize that this is probably not what the authors meant, but people need to think about this. Data exists outside the electronic form!
How many of these GUIs are going to be W3C compliant?
Oh no, he's absolutely right. I mean, just look at Internet Explorer. Microsoft does an amazing job of patching that up nice and quick. Like CSS. Boy am I ever glad they fixed that whole CSS problem that we've been begging them to fix for years. Ho boy.
#1: Kobo Deluxe - addictive overhead space shooter
#2: nethack - THE RPG. Prepare to not get any work done.
#3: Frozen Bubble - A clone of Puzzle Bobble (aka bust-a-move) that's so good, I think it even outdoes the orginal. The music is just plain awesome... my friend burned it onto a CD and we listen to it in the car whenever we go driving.
#4: Armagetron - It's like... Tron lightcycles.... except in 3D... and so much more awesome.
#5: Ur Quan Masters - This is basically Star Control 2 released open source. What are you waiting for? GO!!!!
#6: Pingus - Lemmings for Linux, really. Includes functional level editor. Really, I couldn't ask for anything more.
Ah, making comics will be ever so much the easier now :)
Honestly, this makes me quite happy, because the Gimp is my favorite of all graphic editors.... yes, much better than photoshop or paint shop pro. Makes me wonder if these improvements are going to be ported there way over to Cinepaint?
I attend college at a smaller campus of DePaul University, Barat, and I've tried to talk to not just the technical workers here, but those responsible for company decisions at DePaul that would relate to such a move. But nobody seems interested in listening. This may or may not have something to do with me being "just another undergrad student" though. Regardless of that, my university spends hundreds of thousands of dollars every year than they need to on their computers, and much more inconvenience.
Allow me to explain the monetary loss first. It isn't just the maintenance. Far before there is any actual need for technical modernization, they replace old ones that have gotten "slow" over time. This is caused for a number of reasons: first there is Microsoft's less efficient filesystem, which experiences so much more fragmentation than the ext filesystems on Linux that I can only reasonably calculate the difference by exponential values. But worse yet is the user's ability to run executable files that can do whatever they well please on the system. This means not only viruses are let loose on the machine, but all sorts of little programs, many with spyware. And they all hog up the system memory. Somehow the public misunderstands and thinks that somehow computers are supposed to go one millionth the speed they originally ran at a year later.
Now it is true that a user could let loose a virus on the computer if Linux was running. They could potentially lose the paper that they worked oh ever so hard on. But this won't make it so that the entire system needs to be redone in order to fix the problem. The system itself will not be damaged, and with restrictions on hard drive use, you can prevent a worm from taking over the entire system. It's really very simple to just remove one user and put in another. But let's look at what happens now with our lovely microsoft machines when a virus gets loose... nobody gets to use the system, it's screwed up for everyone who comes in afterwards. Likewise the problem persists with users installing a billion programs on one computer that just hog resources... there really isn't much the person who wants to get on and get off next can do about it. If there was Linux (or potentially even BSD, though I am not as familliar with this OS) on there, it would be easy enough to just log off that user and log back in as another, even an anonymous one.
There is, of course, the common objection to Linux: "It's too difficult for normal users." No, it might be more of a challenge for administrators, which is in some respects somewhat arguable, but let me point out something. Most users on Windows have no idea what the hell they are doing, outside of opening a browser and a word processor. A well set up system on Linux is just as easy to use. It's really all the fancy things people hear about in Linux that makes them think it is automatically difficult, or the install process (reminder that most people get a computer with Windows pre-installed, and they never have to deal with something like formatting a hard drive, so when they see someone setting up a Linux computer for the first time, they think that to use it will be beyond their understanding... or such is what I have found). Let me give an example... my friend recently went and installed Linux on his Dad's computer. He spent a few minutes explaining the basics on the computer, which button opens Mozilla, how to browse through the filesystems on the GUI and how you right click and tell the system to mount the drive you want it to run. Other than the basics, which with most distributions are so well laid out that even an absolutely new user will understand immediately, there really wasn't anything more his dad needed to know. His dad called him up a while ago, though.
"There's something funny about my computer now that you've installed Linux," his dad said.
"Yeah? What's that?" said my friend.
"Well it isn't crashing any more."
"Well yeah," said my friend. "It's very rare that Linux ever crashes."
"Really?" His father was silent for a moment. "I always thought that computers just normally crash."
While I highly disagree about the parent's post, I think it's something to contemplate. However, let me give my analysis piece by piece of the parent's argument. (sorry this is so offtopic, but sometimes the most insightful discussions come from deviating from the topic anyway)
As a practical matter the Linux community has effectively announced its desire to destroy Microsoft, SCO, and as a practical matter, Sun.
Who exactly are you addressing as the Linux community here? Certainly not Linus Torvalds, who has disconnected himself repeatedly from the anti-Microsoft war by showing indifference. As for the rest of Linux users, sure, there are many anti-Microsoft users... but this certainly does not encompass all. And, if we are going to make generalizations, most Linux users aren't for the "taking down" of Microsoft by force, but by the voluntary migration away from the Windows platform to other alternatives.
Linux users certainly are retalliating against SCO, but this is really because what SCO is doing is destroying Linux altogether, for the sake of money. Isn't this like trying to stop someone from ripping your house from underneath your feet?
As for the Sun issue... I really don't know why you think Linux users are attacking Sun. I don't know any Linux users who feel any need to speak out against Sun at all.
Linux is moving from something cool and useful into becoming a jihad.
I guess I just don't see what you mean. As far as I can tell, the Linux movement is as close to a jihad as... well... I can't even think of anything. I can't think of anything that's less similar. Perhaps, somewhere, there are two or three people out there whose mouth foam with penguins and really might be that crazy. But then again, there were, at one time, a few students wearing trenchcoats that shot up a bunch of their classmates. But is this a fair reason to believe that every person wearing a trenchcoat is going to go mad and shoot people? I would hope not. There are crazy people affiliated with everything.
So explain to me, if you would, how Linux is similar to a jihad. Because I just don't seem to get it.
So often this is what goes wrong with business. Obsession with money leads to destruction. Whatever happened to the co-existence theory... or has it ever gone anywhere?
On that note, using Verisign's software, if you aren't sure who you want to vote, you can just put an asterisk after the first letter, and Verisign will choose whoever has the corresponding last name that paid them the most money!
I forget where I heard this, but the first public showing of the film projector was an image of a train flying toward the audience. It was very low quality, it was black and white, there was no sound, but a few people in the audience fainted with fright.
I bet it was... the Time Terrorists*!
*Time Terrorists also responisble for the destruction of the Titanic, the Hindenburg, and the creation of SCO.Wow... that thing is long... and huge! And so many levers! I mean, could you imagine how nuts it would be to play this thing singleplayer if you got a multiball combo?
Sounds like exercise to me. Wait... I don't like exercise! But it's also pinball! Oh, it's just not fair!
Hm. It is possible that you are correct, but regardless, their service is messed up. I figured this much since I tested misspelling a few sites, even my own, and ended up with sites that weren't anywhere near mine in spelling.
I mean really. www.lingocomics.com should really say www.lingocomic.com as a close match, but look what it gives instead. I am also registered through GoDaddy.
that the sitefinder "service" only returns domains by verisign customers? Kind of negates the defense that the sitefinder utility is helping people across the internet find what they really need.
The commodore and I have been drinking buddies for years.
Repeat after me, everyone: I will never buy another CD from the RIAA again.
This actually isn't such a bad idea. I've been thinking, why not a website that lists independent artists' music only, to let people know of an alternative? See, I don't want to just stop listening to music. But I want to listen to music by artists that aren't under the RIAA. Anyone know of such a site, or have any plans to put one together?
Sigh. This moronic bill will probably pass because anyone who opposes it will be accused of promoting child molestation.
I've got an idea, though it's an idea I'd normally not be too happy with. But given the circumstances, I think it's something worth taking into consideration. Considering that one of the attacks in this is a child's exposure to pornography, why not create P2P services with parental block measures, just like they have for browsers? I think our congressmen should support that idea, that way they're less likely to be accused. Now, what to stop the claims of sexual molestation of children?
Err.... sorry. Meant SGI. Damn. Today is not my day.
because SCI looks a lot like SCO.
He actually comes in three different varieties of color. Look at each picture! Purple, blue, and green!
Speaking of the word gateway, Gateway the computer company has founded a tech college somewhere in Wisconsin. That has always disturbed me. But not nearly as much as in Chicago, where there is a high school funded by Oscar Meyer. I guess I'm biased because of the Simpsons episode... I wouldn't my kids studying "baloneyum" instead of real elements.