Ok, I get your point, but why provide the tools if you want people to use other methods?
I wish Sun would make the available installation procedure easier. Even if I had jumpstart, I would have to go through this pain at least once per server type/configuration, no?
Whoa there. If you take the ability to use Jumpstart out of your reaction and what are you left with? Please step away from the pulpit, please.
Jumpstart is currently verboten in my environment. It was not my choice, so I have to accept it as part of job. Believe me, I would if I could. It's not always fun to work with one hand tied behind my back.
Aside from that, we have a fully documented installation procedure, and yes, some people might even call it having standards. SPMBE (it's name) is a way of life around here.
We also clone systems that perform similar functions, so it's not too bad.
From your message, it's obvious you've haven't recently done a commandline OS install and done chose to customize the software packages from CD.
I'm not confusing anything. Did you read what I wrote? I mentioned automated installs are not for us (security is a principal concern), so no Jumpstart and no live upgrades, for security reasons.
I preface this with the fact that I haven't worked with Solaris 9 yet.
If you want to do a custom installation of the OS, Sun's OS installer for version 8 IS HORRIBLE. I changed jobs three years ago, and I moved from a predominantly SGI environment to one that's predominantly Solaris.
The OS installation tools for IRIX three years ago still are BETTER than what Sun currently offers up in Solaris 8 TODAY. What's there is putrid and annoying. The IRIX installation allowed you to select packages based on package names and wildcarding, whereas Sun uses a number-based scheme, and the numbers change from monthly release to monthly release. IT SUCKS!!!!!!
We do a lot of customized OS installations (the most minimal core OS, plus some additional packages) for security reasons, and we don't have enough common system types to make the Solaris automated installation worthwhile.
I wish Solaris would join the 21st century in this regard.
I had a DC-210 for work, and it wasn't bad. I initially ended up with a DC-260, and it had problems. There was a red-magenta shift that really looked BAD when photographing outdoors - here's an example. Those are red cars, not magenta! Very Bad, Kodak.
It was slow to start, slow to focus, and bad with the color problem. I did like the photo clarity, though. They did even release a color fix which you could download into the camera, but it didn't actually do anything.
That camera died after 3000 or so photos, and it was better to replace it with something newer
Someone, somewhere, should be working on inexpensive swappable "CPUs" that have the same performance as traditional supercomputers. It just doesn't make sense to be buying new computers everytime transistors can be made smaller. At the very least, someone needs to make the processors interchangeable, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon since chip companies like things the way they are.
Back in the 1970s, I played a crossover game that was pinball, but on a blocky video screen. The unit was set up exactly like a pinball game, where the screen was laid flat in front of the player, at an angle, even.
The best part was that one time we played it, we managed to knock the "ball" into a part of the playing area where there was a perfect rebound from one bumper to one exactly opposite it. The ball got stuck there, and we racked up a bunch of free games as the ball went back and forth. Someone got the bright idea to press the button to launch another ball, and the game reset on us. We did get to keep the free games, though.
They need to talk to the robot wars people on TNN
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And skip any and all conversations with the Battlebots people on Comedy Central. Night and day, these two shows are.
After watching Robot Wars, I will never go back, even though it's overdone, and they have that cheesy refereebot. The make the carnage...er, um...metalage more fun to watch!
Personally, I have't been buying Moby albums for a while now. I took a chance and picked up "18".
I listened to it in the car on the way home from the store, and I couldn't believe I'd listened to the whole thing in 15 minutes. I just kept jumping to the next track as soon as I got bored with a song. Realistically, I'd call "18" something more like "9" because it's filled with half-songs!
Moby (like he's gonna read this), Maybe you should've stuck with 9 songs and flushed them out more! At least Phillip Glass could make minimalism work! You don't seem to be able to.
"I liked your movies, especially the earlier funny ones!" is a quote that comes to mind. In case you think I've always hated Moby, I geniunely enjoyed his 'pre-Jesus' albums, but nothing since. Like you, King, I think he's been overpromoted and exploited in the media as being suck a genius because he talks way too frickin' much!
They will not be denied, but they do run an OS dereived by Microsoft, so I sincerely doubt we have anything to fear (insert 'If Microsoft designed cars' joke here).
If, by some miracle they'd get out, we could easily discover a "security vulnerability" in their OS, and they'd end up/.ing the windows update servers.
Slashdot Mirror
insert commentary here.
being able to watch them burn up on re-entry and see that the charred remains crash into bewildered Backstreet Boyz.
Ok, I get your point, but why provide the tools if you want people to use other methods?
I wish Sun would make the available installation procedure easier. Even if I had jumpstart, I would have to go through this pain at least once per server type/configuration, no?
Whoa there. If you take the ability to use Jumpstart out of your reaction and what are you left with? Please step away from the pulpit, please.
Jumpstart is currently verboten in my environment. It was not my choice, so I have to accept it as part of job. Believe me, I would if I could. It's not always fun to work with one hand tied behind my back.
Aside from that, we have a fully documented installation procedure, and yes, some people might even call it having standards. SPMBE (it's name) is a way of life around here.
We also clone systems that perform similar functions, so it's not too bad.
From your message, it's obvious you've haven't recently done a commandline OS install and done chose to customize the software packages from CD.
I'm not confusing anything. Did you read what I wrote? I mentioned automated installs are not for us (security is a principal concern), so no Jumpstart and no live upgrades, for security reasons.
Then you must Looooove the Solaris installer.
I preface this with the fact that I haven't worked with Solaris 9 yet.
If you want to do a custom installation of the OS, Sun's OS installer for version 8 IS HORRIBLE. I changed jobs three years ago, and I moved from a predominantly SGI environment to one that's predominantly Solaris.
The OS installation tools for IRIX three years ago still are BETTER than what Sun currently offers up in Solaris 8 TODAY. What's there is putrid and annoying. The IRIX installation allowed you to select packages based on package names and wildcarding, whereas Sun uses a number-based scheme, and the numbers change from monthly release to monthly release. IT SUCKS!!!!!!
We do a lot of customized OS installations (the most minimal core OS, plus some additional packages) for security reasons, and we don't have enough common system types to make the Solaris automated installation worthwhile.
I wish Solaris would join the 21st century in this regard.
However, couples who have them tend to be emptynesters who dress alike, often color coordinated to match their car.
Thankfully, most Z3 owners are not the uptight snobs like the rest of the bimmer drivers (trolling, flamebait, call it what you will )
Do people consider themselves yuppies anymore? I thought that species died out right before the dotcom boom...
Most secret technology is often sent through methods that can be intercepted by halfway decent corporate spies.
I had a DC-210 for work, and it wasn't bad. I initially ended up with a DC-260, and it had problems. There was a red-magenta shift that really looked BAD when photographing outdoors - here's an example. Those are red cars, not magenta! Very Bad, Kodak.
It was slow to start, slow to focus, and bad with the color problem. I did like the photo clarity, though. They did even release a color fix which you could download into the camera, but it didn't actually do anything.
That camera died after 3000 or so photos, and it was better to replace it with something newer
Someone, somewhere, should be working on inexpensive swappable "CPUs" that have the same performance as traditional supercomputers. It just doesn't make sense to be buying new computers everytime transistors can be made smaller. At the very least, someone needs to make the processors interchangeable, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon since chip companies like things the way they are.
Didn't you hear, they hired Dr. Evil to sell off the business??
and the rest of him, too. Sounds to me like he reeeeeally needs a Moe-Howard-style bitchslapping.
He Just Doesn't Get It.
Back in the 1970s, I played a crossover game that was pinball, but on a blocky video screen. The unit was set up exactly like a pinball game, where the screen was laid flat in front of the player, at an angle, even.
The best part was that one time we played it, we managed to knock the "ball" into a part of the playing area where there was a perfect rebound from one bumper to one exactly opposite it. The ball got stuck there, and we racked up a bunch of free games as the ball went back and forth. Someone got the bright idea to press the button to launch another ball, and the game reset on us. We did get to keep the free games, though.
And skip any and all conversations with the Battlebots people on Comedy Central. Night and day, these two shows are.
After watching Robot Wars, I will never go back, even though it's overdone, and they have that cheesy refereebot. The make the carnage...er, um...metalage more fun to watch!
You can't fight in here, this is the WAR ROOM!
What king of American[tm] is he anyways?
http://www.google.com/press/images/cindy_mccaffrey _lg.jpg
just spell it aloud
"Where there's a Whip, there's a way"
alright 9 words if you count the contractions...
Personally, I have't been buying Moby albums for a while now. I took a chance and picked up "18".
I listened to it in the car on the way home from the store, and I couldn't believe I'd listened to the whole thing in 15 minutes. I just kept jumping to the next track as soon as I got bored with a song. Realistically, I'd call "18" something more like "9" because it's filled with half-songs!
Moby (like he's gonna read this), Maybe you should've stuck with 9 songs and flushed them out more! At least Phillip Glass could make minimalism work! You don't seem to be able to.
"I liked your movies, especially the earlier funny ones!" is a quote that comes to mind. In case you think I've always hated Moby, I geniunely enjoyed his 'pre-Jesus' albums, but nothing since. Like you, King, I think he's been overpromoted and exploited in the media as being suck a genius because he talks way too frickin' much!
Get a frickin room, you two!
They will not be denied, but they do run an OS dereived by Microsoft, so I sincerely doubt we have anything to fear (insert 'If Microsoft designed cars' joke here).
/.ing the windows update servers.
If, by some miracle they'd get out, we could easily discover a "security vulnerability" in their OS, and they'd end up
Maybe this is a small consolation for living there to begin with.
but do it because it is what you WISH to do.
KHAN!!!!!