Common things in the past were Celeron processers running in dual mode. Make a quick solder job...and you could run a dual proc 366 (overclock to 550) celeron for the price of a 366 p2. And Abit made it idiot easy to do with the BP6 (which my BP6 is still running after 5 years...)
yea, but these "features" cost money. The hack doesn't.
That big ass spoiler, adds 20 hp. That unpainted body kit on your riced out civic. 10 hp, but it looks like crap, IMHO. And who the heak thought a coffee can made a good exahust sound?
Are you one of those that commutes 100 miles to/from work? You do the commute alone? If yes, get an INsight. If you want efficiency, the latest tech and being able to drive your kids to school. I say a prius/hybrid civic is more your cup of tea.
Lastly, long term ownership is questionable. These cars have only been on the road for 5 years and in limited production- even the Prius. Don't let Toyota fool you about "its super reliable". I've talked to Toyota service managers before about the prius and they were like "I don't really know much (especcially the power train), I just write up work orders..."
Getting it repaired, its going to be dealer work, independent shops will probably turn you away.
I'm glad I got out of the INsight after 2 years- Any longer and it would be costly if I had to buy another battery pack/IMA computer.
These parts are hard to come by, special order. Think long and hard before you want to buy one. Keep it for 2-5 years and trade it in. that's my advice.
Room is not an issue for 2 passengers. Any more, uh...Lets say I knew someone who is 5'1 and we stuck her in the hatch. I could fit a week's worth of groceries for 1 or 2 people in the back hatch.
As for power, it was decent. 0-60 times are 10ish with a fully charged battery. Basically, it won't blast around town like a 3.0-3.5 liter v6, but then your getting twice the mileage doing it too. With a depleated battery, it is an absolute dog to drive. (think VW TDI jetta/golf in an auto tranny). But it is bearable.
I think it was a wonderful expierence driving some of the newest technology offered to the public.
Lastly. The crash. My father was driving at the time, but as you can see in the pictures. The rear held up very well. the lic plate and bumper were a mangled mess,half the rear section was gone. Government crash tests rate the vehicle as 4 stars.
it was decided not to get another hybrid simply because memories are better than reality. Much like how I think back in time and realize "those girls were wonderful"...baah! The insight is the same way. I remember getting 80 mpg, tearing down hills (but not up them).
I'm sure there were moments of disappointment, but those have been forgotten.
Well first with the prius. After I got the insight, my step bro...(well not quite but we've been really close friends since freshman year of hs.) he got a prius. I've driven it once or twice. I really don't like the way it drives. 1. Center instrument display- not used to it. Even after driving 2 hours, I still look straight down... 2. Every time I start from a stop, I get the feeling of a slipping clutch. It is probably normal, but after driving a stick, you are warry of that feeling.
As for the Insight. I decided that a hybrid once was good enough. In 2001, it was bleeding edge technology. It was "reasonably" priced, and I did some quick math and came to the conclusion that gas savings alone paid for insurance (well, geico insurance, with AAA it would cover about 2/3-3/4) so FREE INSURANCE! how great is that?
Its drive was mediocre. For such a small car (about 2000 pounds) it was prone to wind/rain/passing cars. You felt everything around you. But its all worth it to draft behind an RV going 70 down the freeway and getting 80mpg. However, I tend to drive aggrasively and after 24k, it was 58 mpg.
Oh well, I love driving a stick (and current car is a stick). Some are lazy and feel its a hassle. I feel shifting through the gears is part of the "joy of driving".
Kinda funny that we now have a/. discussion on CEL codes...I got a CEL myself on sat. Will be taking her in on turs or sat.
So the light came on, wasn't flashing. I highly doubt it was the gas tanks because I filled it thrusday night, drove it to near empty (400 mi) friday. It didn't light up until sat morn. By then, I had started/stopped the engine many many times, and it probably has done many preassure tests.
We'll see what code it is when I take it to the stealer.
You also forgot another reason NOT to buy a merc. Higher insurance premuem.
But then, an Elantra and a Merc are two different class of cars. Heak even a mazda/honda/toyota and even FORD is better than a hundyai. Ok, maybe not ford cars but their trucks are decent.
Its sooo beautiful! I absolutely love it. Will you give it to me? please? I really really like the phone. it is so sleak and stylish. I love how the keypad cover slides down matrix-style. ooh, i love the phone. its absolutly perfect!
But if AOL died, I would have a hard time finding qualifying wives. You see, If she is an AOL user, DUMP HER! (unless she is good looking enough to compensate)
Hey, just like to say i had a blast reading your reply.
Your right, NOkia needs to go "back to the basics" and just make a decent phone. Best if its durable and inexpensive; like those 5190, my cousin got one 4 years ago and its still working like a charm. Its been dropped so many times, its not even funny. Damn thing is built with bricks or something.
Sadly, my 8290 is dying quick. Its antenna contact on the circuit board is worn out, and I've tried patching it to no avail (damn, why couldn't i get an EE degree?)
I caved in and ordered a motorola v400. thank you employee discount. (so its 40% off list price, and no contract)
I want Nokia to go back to a design like this nokia 8290. It is a no frills phone. Doesn't have a camera, doesnt have a gamepad. It's small and I love it.
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i thought it was 9600 bps
-Grump
ok really OT but the coward commented on your sig.
Now im curious. what the heak is your sig supposed to say?
-Grump
Well, to combat the "smell", run the aircon.
As for "how much calif is left"? Just remember. California is a "great state".
-Gruml
your suv, stick or auto?
i think they should rename it 80+ tho, since everyone seems to drive that. well in centeral calif anyway.
-grump
I live in LA and SF area.
School in LA, home in SF bay.
for what it's worth, I call it i5
-Grump
Common things in the past were Celeron processers running in dual mode. Make a quick solder job...and you could run a dual proc 366 (overclock to 550) celeron for the price of a 366 p2. And Abit made it idiot easy to do with the BP6 (which my BP6 is still running after 5 years...)
-Grump
yea, but these "features" cost money. The hack doesn't.
That big ass spoiler, adds 20 hp.
That unpainted body kit on your riced out civic. 10 hp, but it looks like crap, IMHO.
And who the heak thought a coffee can made a good exahust sound?
-Grump
Well, how much do you value mileage?
Are you one of those that commutes 100 miles to/from work? You do the commute alone? If yes, get an INsight. If you want efficiency, the latest tech and being able to drive your kids to school. I say a prius/hybrid civic is more your cup of tea.
Lastly, long term ownership is questionable. These cars have only been on the road for 5 years and in limited production- even the Prius. Don't let Toyota fool you about "its super reliable". I've talked to Toyota service managers before about the prius and they were like "I don't really know much (especcially the power train), I just write up work orders..."
Getting it repaired, its going to be dealer work, independent shops will probably turn you away.
I'm glad I got out of the INsight after 2 years- Any longer and it would be costly if I had to buy another battery pack/IMA computer.
These parts are hard to come by, special order. Think long and hard before you want to buy one. Keep it for 2-5 years and trade it in. that's my advice.
-Grump
Room is not an issue for 2 passengers. Any more, uh...Lets say I knew someone who is 5'1 and we stuck her in the hatch. I could fit a week's worth of groceries for 1 or 2 people in the back hatch.
As for power, it was decent. 0-60 times are 10ish with a fully charged battery. Basically, it won't blast around town like a 3.0-3.5 liter v6, but then your getting twice the mileage doing it too. With a depleated battery, it is an absolute dog to drive. (think VW TDI jetta/golf in an auto tranny). But it is bearable.
I think it was a wonderful expierence driving some of the newest technology offered to the public.
Lastly. The crash. My father was driving at the time, but as you can see in the pictures. The rear held up very well. the lic plate and bumper were a mangled mess,half the rear section was gone. Government crash tests rate the vehicle as 4 stars.
it was decided not to get another hybrid simply because memories are better than reality. Much like how I think back in time and realize "those girls were wonderful"...baah! The insight is the same way. I remember getting 80 mpg, tearing down hills (but not up them).
I'm sure there were moments of disappointment, but those have been forgotten.
-Grump
Well first with the prius. After I got the insight, my step bro...(well not quite but we've been really close friends since freshman year of hs.) he got a prius. I've driven it once or twice. I really don't like the way it drives.
1. Center instrument display- not used to it. Even after driving 2 hours, I still look straight down...
2. Every time I start from a stop, I get the feeling of a slipping clutch. It is probably normal, but after driving a stick, you are warry of that feeling.
As for the Insight. I decided that a hybrid once was good enough. In 2001, it was bleeding edge technology. It was "reasonably" priced, and I did some quick math and came to the conclusion that gas savings alone paid for insurance (well, geico insurance, with AAA it would cover about 2/3-3/4) so FREE INSURANCE! how great is that?
Its drive was mediocre. For such a small car (about 2000 pounds) it was prone to wind/rain/passing cars. You felt everything around you. But its all worth it to draft behind an RV going 70 down the freeway and getting 80mpg. However, I tend to drive aggrasively and after 24k, it was 58 mpg.
crap i gotta go out. i'll finish this reply later
former car..
Honda Insight (01, #401)
Manual 60/68
CVT: 57/56
Manual is higher. CVT mileage was lower because the engine was unable to "lean out" the way the manual engine was.
Oh well, that car has been totaled (courtsey of a ford exploder)
front of car
back of car
Oh well, I love driving a stick (and current car is a stick). Some are lazy and feel its a hassle. I feel shifting through the gears is part of the "joy of driving".
-Grump
Hey, Mz6club member here. cBob it is.
/. discussion on CEL codes...I got a CEL myself on sat. Will be taking her in on turs or sat.
Kinda funny that we now have a
So the light came on, wasn't flashing. I highly doubt it was the gas tanks because I filled it thrusday night, drove it to near empty (400 mi) friday. It didn't light up until sat morn. By then, I had started/stopped the engine many many times, and it probably has done many preassure tests.
We'll see what code it is when I take it to the stealer.
-Grump/cBob
03 6i, manual. TB ground taken off, brake light mod.
You also forgot another reason NOT to buy a merc. Higher insurance premuem.
But then, an Elantra and a Merc are two different class of cars. Heak even a mazda/honda/toyota and even FORD is better than a hundyai. Ok, maybe not ford cars but their trucks are decent.
Doubt it. Toyota hybrid system is designed around a CVT. Put your money on Honda. All their hybrids so far have been stick/cvt.
mmm...real men drive stick.
-Grump
still looking though...still looking.
prise my 8910...out of my cold, dead hands.
Its sooo beautiful! I absolutely love it. Will you give it to me? please? I really really like the phone. it is so sleak and stylish. I love how the keypad cover slides down matrix-style. ooh, i love the phone. its absolutly perfect!
(is that enough pr(a)ise for you?)
-Grump
nah, I'm currenetly interested in a girl who is an aol user.
How did I come accross her? my roomate went to the same hs as she did. Oh well, atleast we have good conversations and she has a college degree.
And right now im 20, so i'm not itching to get married. not looking for a wife as much as looking for potential candidates.
-grump
But if AOL died, I would have a hard time finding qualifying wives. You see, If she is an AOL user, DUMP HER! (unless she is good looking enough to compensate)
-Grump
Hey, just like to say i had a blast reading your reply.
Your right, NOkia needs to go "back to the basics" and just make a decent phone. Best if its durable and inexpensive; like those 5190, my cousin got one 4 years ago and its still working like a charm. Its been dropped so many times, its not even funny. Damn thing is built with bricks or something.
-Grump
yea, and I thought flourescent lighting was bad enough.
Not even smoke signals anymore?
Damnit! this "environmentally friendly" movement has gone too far!
-Grump
Sadly, my 8290 is dying quick. Its antenna contact on the circuit board is worn out, and I've tried patching it to no avail (damn, why couldn't i get an EE degree?)
I caved in and ordered a motorola v400. thank you employee discount. (so its 40% off list price, and no contract)
-Grump
I want Nokia to go back to a design like this
nokia 8290.
It is a no frills phone. Doesn't have a camera, doesnt have a gamepad.
It's small and I love it.
-Grump
well, in the last year i've lost 40 pounds. I think i have some expierence on the topic.