It's a flawed model really. Historically, suing oneself into success has never worked. The wright (right?) brothers spent their last decades suing anyone who made anything that flew -- yea that went well. The maker of the gun carteridge -- who partenered/sold out to S&W -- did the same thing, and spent his entire fortune made on the invention in court, died broke.
The RIAA missed the boat, failed to innovate, didn't see or care to see the j-curve in technology and are thrashing in the water trying to force people back to music listening circa 1990. The genie is out of the bottle. Pandora's box is open. You are not the next american idol. The answer was D. and now regis is waiting for you to leave the stage. Move along RIAA. Game over dude....
A rose is still a rose and atheism is still religion. You want what religion wants, you just don't want the organ that performs the fuction. Remove the heart and demand bloodflow. Castrate the gelding and demand it bear fruit. Atheism is quaint. It is the jazz of religion. It is faith for the proud. Remove the word and read the beliefs -- what's the difference? Atheism wants the same morality as religion. We both, as you rightly point out, are chocked-full of failed examples. Religious people failing? murdering? commiting wrongs? Concur. Most prophets in the bible were extreme failures in all of these ways. Saints once sinners, prostitues converts, rising, falling, failing -- sounds like a human life to me. Still, you cannot escape Kant's moral law within or Lewis' paradox of desiring what's right yet failing utterly to do so.
There is but one moral code. All versions of civilization -- and there is but one civilization -- adhere to the same first principles. None, really, go against the basics of not murdering, or not stealing, or not lieing. And before any arguments to the contrary -- war, politics, etc. -- each and every culture, historically and presently, forbade such things.
For the record: there are few things that make us human, that make us different than animals. One is language. Another is morality.
As the author states in that book: what if the young Greek men had said to the elders, "but we don't want to die to preserve you. We don't want to fight the persians." Then Greece would have ceased to be. Following this, so would humanity eventually.
But, please read my post and, more than anything, read that book....
How are they using windows? Did they not purchase the $4k DST 'patch' (yes, a patch) to fix Exchange's DST issue? Are they managing 1000s of workstations across an enterprise with something like ScriptLogic's Desktop Authority, which makes the hell of the broken Active Directory workable? There are un-foreseen costs attached. You pay one time for Windows, and then many times over for antivirus, directory services management, patch management, on and on. I honestly cannot believe Novell said this, especially when NDS was twice the directory service AD is today.
The costs to buy everything needed to actually make a Windows network, 'work' are exponential when factoring in all of the third party pieces that are ABSOLUTELY necessary to make an distributed network function well.
I'm so glad you went to seminary. I know you fully understand the theory of "progressive revelation," which states that whereas God does not change, humanity's understanding of him does. Any, decent, theologian would freely admit that the Bible is a running progression of the changing view of humankind towards God. Do not confuse the fundamentalist with the truly educated religious. Any mature, learned, professor of theology would admit, firstly, to the changing nature of understanding -- that's our understanding.
"The Bible contains all sorts of statements that we now know to be false...."
Yes, mod that up.
Please cite these false statements.
Allow me to help (since I'm pretty sure you had none as you gave none):
1. The differing versions of Paul's conversion story on the road to Damascus.
2. The abrubt ending of "Amen" at the end of 1st John to cover added in the first millinium, probably, to help cover the awkward, "idols" addition.
3. The double-Goliaths in Samuel, seemingly placing the giant -- who should be dead -- in two different places.
4. The differing versions of the demoniac in the Gospels (only one in one instance, and two in another).
5. The missing article in the Gospel of John in "and the word was God." This can be interpretted, "a God" and is responsible for massive convulsions in Christianity over the past 2000 years.
All of these have explanations of course, but I like the explanation that, much as we ourselves are and the rest of the world, scripture is, "perfectly flawed."
Lewis points out the "en de nux" of the Gospel where the writer makes the comment, as he's describing the events, that, "and it was night." Lewis points out, being a professor of ancient myth, that the writer is doing one of two things, and only one of two things are possible here:
1. He was writing modern fiction some 2000 years ahead of its time or:
2. He was writing the truth.
You see, the very fact that scripture contains so many errors points to its authenticity -- it was written by people. The fact that the author of the Gospel was actually telling real events -- because ancient writers did not create modern fiction by making-up details such as that -- means that the events really happened.
Scientific statements? Is that what you mean? I honestly want to see the scriptures that details science. I am eager to see the chapter and verse that lays out the scientific method and reveals a theory or, better yet, a proven theory....
I remember Sagan's comments on Reagan's "star wars" program. "They want scientists to make something in space that can shoot down nuclear warheads using lasers. As scientists, we believe we can make it, and it will sound something like this: 'vzerrremmm! zzzzzzzoooommmmaahhh! phhhhhhhewwwwwwbanggggg!' Should be easy...."
Or something to that affect. Someone google it....
Some people wanted to know who was talking about them behind their backs. They suspected certain people, but were not sure. So, they got with these other people who told them about fooling the cell phone companies into helping them view their phone records. It was easy. Just call the cell phone company, lie and say you are the person who owns the account, and the cell phone company will help you access the phone logs. So, they did, and sure enough, they found out it was Billy who had been talking to Sara about Jim & Mary's relationship. But, when Billy found out he got mad and called the cops. Sara & Jim, who lied to get the logs, got in big trouble. They had to pay 1000s of dollars in court costs, lost their jobs and went into bankruptcy. The prosecuting attorney and law enforcement couldn't believe the stark crime that had been committed -- lying to get into someone's records. All were punished who needed to be and all were justified who needed to be....
Oh wait, you were asking about the big important people who did the same thing but from a corporate-level. Why, they are professionals who would never break the law. They did everything by-the-book and by-the-policy. They used corporate avenues and channels to rightly get phone records by lying -- I mean, pretexting -- sold stock to make tons of money on the deal and will never spend a day in jail. They are richer by the hour, by the minute. You see, big important people are different and have different rights than folks who have trouble keeping their gas-tanks filled week-in and week-out....
And only the little girl saw clearly that the emperor had no clothes....
Appearently, the status quo is that its ok to make a boarding pass generator, but its not ok to create DVD decrypting software.
Don't you get it? Real crimes are copyright infringements. Spending money and resources protecting passengers on jet planes is a complete waste of time....
Real criminals are underprivileged 13 year old girls evilly downloading music they have not purchased. May they hang!
How come this device died and disapeared for centuries? Given the Egyptians knowledge of the earths equinox, this was the key to discover America way before Colombus did.
Someone found it could also play music, and they lost all interest in finding america....
Contributed by mojoski
[RedHat] Tue Jan 13 at 10:56AM EST
From the taking-on-the-world dept.
RedHat has announced the formation of a new department known as "Red Hat Advanced Development Labs" who will be working with the people of the GNOMEteam to advance a free desktop and many nice tools for linux. Here is a link to the announcement made by Marc Ewing at RedHat. Thanks to the folks at freshmeat for making me aware of this.
Can companies like RedHat continue to make money on Free software. I'm guessing that they can. What do you think?
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Oh they are pricey. Kid's toys are pricey anyhow, but legos are very much so. I guess it's like movie popcorn: it isn't the cost of the substance, but the atmosphere you're buying....
Captain Picard: Mr. Data, is it possible to route the plasma conduits through the quantum vortex cores?
Mr. Data: It could be done, but there is a risk of core breach if the gravitons grow out of alignment.
Scotty: Bloody hell. Since when diya ask a piece o'machinery about the bleeding engine?
Bones: I hate you all....
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Is this rhetorical? Hasn't microsoft successfully been doing "me too" for decades?
It's a flawed model really. Historically, suing oneself into success has never worked. The wright (right?) brothers spent their last decades suing anyone who made anything that flew -- yea that went well. The maker of the gun carteridge -- who partenered/sold out to S&W -- did the same thing, and spent his entire fortune made on the invention in court, died broke.
The RIAA missed the boat, failed to innovate, didn't see or care to see the j-curve in technology and are thrashing in the water trying to force people back to music listening circa 1990. The genie is out of the bottle. Pandora's box is open. You are not the next american idol. The answer was D. and now regis is waiting for you to leave the stage. Move along RIAA. Game over dude....
Of course, it had one hellashish case of masterbation blisters....
Thus spoken as a true person of any religion....
A rose is still a rose and atheism is still religion. You want what religion wants, you just don't want the organ that performs the fuction. Remove the heart and demand bloodflow. Castrate the gelding and demand it bear fruit. Atheism is quaint. It is the jazz of religion. It is faith for the proud. Remove the word and read the beliefs -- what's the difference? Atheism wants the same morality as religion. We both, as you rightly point out, are chocked-full of failed examples. Religious people failing? murdering? commiting wrongs? Concur. Most prophets in the bible were extreme failures in all of these ways. Saints once sinners, prostitues converts, rising, falling, failing -- sounds like a human life to me. Still, you cannot escape Kant's moral law within or Lewis' paradox of desiring what's right yet failing utterly to do so.
b olition1.htm
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/lewis/a
En de nux
According to which moral code?
b olition1.htm
There is but one moral code. All versions of civilization -- and there is but one civilization -- adhere to the same first principles. None, really, go against the basics of not murdering, or not stealing, or not lieing. And before any arguments to the contrary -- war, politics, etc. -- each and every culture, historically and presently, forbade such things.
I'm citing here:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/lewis/a
The Master said, He who sets to work on a different strand destroys the whole fabric. --Confucius
I'll post the link to my thoughts on this subject and refer to what I consider the best book on morality:
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http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1598
For the record: there are few things that make us human, that make us different than animals. One is language. Another is morality.
As the author states in that book: what if the young Greek men had said to the elders, "but we don't want to die to preserve you. We don't want to fight the persians." Then Greece would have ceased to be. Following this, so would humanity eventually.
But, please read my post and, more than anything, read that book....
These from memory:
"The two things that amaze me are the starry hosts above and the moral law within...." -Kant
"The great paradox is humanity's deep desire to do right, and their total failure to do so...." -Lewis
How are they using windows? Did they not purchase the $4k DST 'patch' (yes, a patch) to fix Exchange's DST issue? Are they managing 1000s of workstations across an enterprise with something like ScriptLogic's Desktop Authority, which makes the hell of the broken Active Directory workable? There are un-foreseen costs attached. You pay one time for Windows, and then many times over for antivirus, directory services management, patch management, on and on. I honestly cannot believe Novell said this, especially when NDS was twice the directory service AD is today.
The costs to buy everything needed to actually make a Windows network, 'work' are exponential when factoring in all of the third party pieces that are ABSOLUTELY necessary to make an distributed network function well.
As the Jollylama always said when I b3wm3d him in netquake:
"My Liver!"
Wow!
I'm so glad you went to seminary. I know you fully understand the theory of "progressive revelation," which states that whereas God does not change, humanity's understanding of him does. Any, decent, theologian would freely admit that the Bible is a running progression of the changing view of humankind towards God. Do not confuse the fundamentalist with the truly educated religious. Any mature, learned, professor of theology would admit, firstly, to the changing nature of understanding -- that's our understanding.
"The Bible contains all sorts of statements that we now know to be false...."
Yes, mod that up.
Please cite these false statements.
Allow me to help (since I'm pretty sure you had none as you gave none):
1. The differing versions of Paul's conversion story on the road to Damascus.
2. The abrubt ending of "Amen" at the end of 1st John to cover added in the first millinium, probably, to help cover the awkward, "idols" addition.
3. The double-Goliaths in Samuel, seemingly placing the giant -- who should be dead -- in two different places.
4. The differing versions of the demoniac in the Gospels (only one in one instance, and two in another).
5. The missing article in the Gospel of John in "and the word was God." This can be interpretted, "a God" and is responsible for massive convulsions in Christianity over the past 2000 years.
All of these have explanations of course, but I like the explanation that, much as we ourselves are and the rest of the world, scripture is, "perfectly flawed."
Lewis points out the "en de nux" of the Gospel where the writer makes the comment, as he's describing the events, that, "and it was night." Lewis points out, being a professor of ancient myth, that the writer is doing one of two things, and only one of two things are possible here:
1. He was writing modern fiction some 2000 years ahead of its time or:
2. He was writing the truth.
You see, the very fact that scripture contains so many errors points to its authenticity -- it was written by people. The fact that the author of the Gospel was actually telling real events -- because ancient writers did not create modern fiction by making-up details such as that -- means that the events really happened.
Scientific statements? Is that what you mean? I honestly want to see the scriptures that details science. I am eager to see the chapter and verse that lays out the scientific method and reveals a theory or, better yet, a proven theory....
uh huh
Or should I say, "chink!"
Scott Adams (Dilbert) said something like, "when you really take a hard look at deep science you begin to realize that it's all a load of crap...."
I remember Sagan's comments on Reagan's "star wars" program. "They want scientists to make something in space that can shoot down nuclear warheads using lasers. As scientists, we believe we can make it, and it will sound something like this: 'vzerrremmm! zzzzzzzoooommmmaahhh! phhhhhhhewwwwwwbanggggg!' Should be easy...."
Or something to that affect. Someone google it....
People who log in as "Administrator" would just as quickly read their email and browse porn sites as "root". Sad, but true.
Yes, but at least a linux app is more likely to tell you, "using this on the internet as root is stupid...."
Sure:
Some people wanted to know who was talking about them behind their backs. They suspected certain people, but were not sure. So, they got with these other people who told them about fooling the cell phone companies into helping them view their phone records. It was easy. Just call the cell phone company, lie and say you are the person who owns the account, and the cell phone company will help you access the phone logs. So, they did, and sure enough, they found out it was Billy who had been talking to Sara about Jim & Mary's relationship. But, when Billy found out he got mad and called the cops. Sara & Jim, who lied to get the logs, got in big trouble. They had to pay 1000s of dollars in court costs, lost their jobs and went into bankruptcy. The prosecuting attorney and law enforcement couldn't believe the stark crime that had been committed -- lying to get into someone's records. All were punished who needed to be and all were justified who needed to be....
Oh wait, you were asking about the big important people who did the same thing but from a corporate-level. Why, they are professionals who would never break the law. They did everything by-the-book and by-the-policy. They used corporate avenues and channels to rightly get phone records by lying -- I mean, pretexting -- sold stock to make tons of money on the deal and will never spend a day in jail. They are richer by the hour, by the minute. You see, big important people are different and have different rights than folks who have trouble keeping their gas-tanks filled week-in and week-out....
And only the little girl saw clearly that the emperor had no clothes....
Honestly, I am baffled by your post (it makes no sense to me) and the fact it is modded up. Can someone explain?
Don't forget that he predicted the 2.5 inch floppy....
Appearently, the status quo is that its ok to make a boarding pass generator, but its not ok to create DVD decrypting software.
Don't you get it? Real crimes are copyright infringements. Spending money and resources protecting passengers on jet planes is a complete waste of time....
Real criminals are underprivileged 13 year old girls evilly downloading music they have not purchased. May they hang!
How come this device died and disapeared for centuries? Given the Egyptians knowledge of the earths equinox, this was the key to discover America way before Colombus did.
Someone found it could also play music, and they lost all interest in finding america....
RedHat chooses Gnome!
/. circa 1998
Contributed by mojoski
[RedHat] Tue Jan 13 at 10:56AM EST
From the taking-on-the-world dept.
RedHat has announced the formation of a new department known as "Red Hat Advanced Development Labs" who will be working with the people of the GNOMEteam to advance a free desktop and many nice tools for linux. Here is a link to the announcement made by Marc Ewing at RedHat. Thanks to the folks at freshmeat for making me aware of this.
Can companies like RedHat continue to make money on Free software. I'm guessing that they can. What do you think?
Read More...
16 comment(s)
Sorry. Mod me off topic I guess....
Oh they are pricey. Kid's toys are pricey anyhow, but legos are very much so. I guess it's like movie popcorn: it isn't the cost of the substance, but the atmosphere you're buying....
LEGO is the largest tire manufacturer in the world
Yet, when making a car, you are hard-pressed to find four of the same set in a very huge bucket filled with Legos....
Yes, I play legos with my kids....
Captain Picard: Mr. Data, is it possible to route the plasma conduits through the quantum vortex cores?
Mr. Data: It could be done, but there is a risk of core breach if the gravitons grow out of alignment.
Scotty: Bloody hell. Since when diya ask a piece o'machinery about the bleeding engine?
Bones: I hate you all....
Correction: no office chair can hold Newt Gingrich....