I have a Motorola P280 (purchased last year) TriBand GSM Mobile which does the same thing. It's access is via t-mobile here in the states; it came with a serial cable which plugs right into the phone - the phone is a full 56k modem which when plugged into serial port is addressable as a standard modem - no special software required.
It also handles GPRS modem, which does require special "iStream" software ( dunno what voicestream calls it now that they rebanded to t-mobile) and only runs on Windows.
It has all the same features of the above mentioned modem, but it also is a phone.
I paid about $300 for it in January, so it's probably more affordable now.
They have an i280 now also that is same phone PLUS bluetooth.
I would remind all of you that it is work; playtime is for home. Most firms are right in asserting that IRC, personal email, recreational browsing, etc are verboten in the workplace. Why are they paying bandwidth fees and your salary for you to goof off? If you want to play all day go back to kindergarten.
And besides, what the hell kind of Techies are you that you can't get around shit like this and are even CONCERNED About it? SSH Tunnel to a remote box and do all your stuff through there. Or employ any number of things. If it came down to them restricting our access to the outside world (ssh, web) at all it would be another issue - we'd be unable to do the development testing and research we needed. But for now it's just locking down stuff like email and web usage. I don't see a big deal here.
There is prior art for this stuff. Besides TiVo, people have tried to do this kind of technology before in the past; Java was spawned off of an 'embedded systems language' called Oak; which IIRC was built for things like PVRs, etc... but in the early 90s the public just wasn't ready for that kind of tech. Regardless, at the least TiVo was around before ReplayTV. Prior art is a powerful thing. Besides, SonicBlue has M$ To contend with as well, M$ having that UltimateTV thing (Which I strangely haven't seen/ heard ads for lately; i remember them blitzing the media early this summer.)
Additionally, as referenced in This Slashdot Article from earlier this year, TiVo was also recently granted a slew of patents on PVR Tech. I'm not sure which company got what tech patented however...
The benefit to an Open API like OpenGL is that it is cross platform, and cross hardware.
Lets examine a few things:
1) DirectX is Windows only. Developers who develop under DirectX/D3D have a harder time porting from platform to platform because of the API.
2) Let's look at a more closed API, which you claim is just fine. 3Dfx for example. For a long time when 3dFx took over the gaming graphics market, it used a proprietary API called 'glide'. The problem arose when new, better video cards came out. They couldn't run the Glide apps, and everyone was developing JUST for glide. So new manufacturers had a hard time, as did customers.
Using an Open API like OpenGL allows cross platform, cross hardware development much easier. It simply requires a manufacturer releasing an OpenGL ICD for their card, and their card runs OpenGL (Assuming it's internal hardware meets the requirements of the application in question).
Companies looking to port their app to multiple platforms have a much easier time; OpenGL is available on most major platforms such as Unix, Windows and Mac.
It's partially collapses; the first page was probably from the first day or so of the attack.
I work at the bottom of Fulton street and when you get off the subway you can still see 5 WTC, but all the windows have been blown out and its partly collapsed; I was up there Friday and the side towards the towers has a big slice out of its backend...
If i use a piece of GPLed code; that code should remain GPLed. It shouldn't virally infect my own code if I don't choose to use the GPL. I contribute to several Open Source projects and choose not to use the GPL; I think it is a horrid license. And FTR, I *USE* BSD, thank you for the suggestion. I also use Linux in several places; I make sure not to license any code I write under the GPL because it sucks.
I am not looking to build an evil empire, or steal anyones code. But I think that an Open Source license should allow me to use it under its terms, without it infecting my code.
It's not an issue of something that doesn't "Affect me". I am involved in open source development. And one of the worst parts about the GPL that I fail to mention is its virility. Why if I use a piece of GPLed code am I now forced to license my entire product under GPL?
Yes, RMS and the FSF have been vocal in moving the Free software movement; but its also things like insisting we call it "GNU/Linux" that make them look like a bunch of fucking lunatics.
He's an idiot. Face it. Why the hell anyone would license their code under the GPL is beyond me. The GPL is a horrible, restrictive (funny I should say that since RMS talks about how 'restrictive' other licenses are) license which gives RMS and his Nazis exclusive rights to prosecute violations of your licensing, and in many ways rights to your software itself.
Everyone is encouraged to look at licenses like the Artistic License (Written by Perl God Larry Wall) and the BSD License available at opensource.org.
Maybe if everyone ignores this GPL crap RMS will take his bullshit elsewhere.
I was going in late today; i saw this article and called my office, which is about 3 blocks from WTC; I go through WTC on the way to work and would have been on the way through when this happens.
I'm watching CNN now; its fucking scary.
Our CEO told me he watched it, people were jumping out of the windows (unclear if he meant the plane or the building). I have friends and coworkers who work in the WTC and the WFC. Let's all pray for them and their families.
It sounds more likely that this is going to be a setup similar to what some airlines have now; the airphones have modem jacks in the back.
More likely than the airline providing a wireless card, will be the airline throwing a 10base jack in the back of your chair, that you plug straight into. Since just about everyone has a NIC in their laptops these days, it would be a simple thing to do.
I find it strange that people see stuff like this as a bad thing. I mean, is it so bad to lay down money for games? It's not like they're asking you to pay $500 for Photoshop or Office.
My only real complaint about console games is there aren't more readily available ways to 'try' games. I go to local retailers and they never have test units available; and none of the local rental places seem to ever rent any decent games.
Also, quick question.
What on my machine exactly is "locking" the installation? Hard drive serial number? MAC Address? CPU ID # ? (Conceivably, MS could require us to turn on our CPU ID in the BIOS if we wanted to run Whistler.)
Seeing as everything has moved to a ".net" strategy (it will do all data transmissions via the internet), we can easily circumvent what is essentially an extremely trivial protection scheme.
We drop said box on a closed off LAN with no external access, and do some packet sniffing. See what data the installation is trying to send to where, then once we figure out what it wants to hear, setup a daemon on a local box, pretending to be the 'clearinghouse' server.
For starters: The monster was the monster. Not Frankenstein. Frankenstein was the doctor. You at least once referred to the MONSTER as 'frankenstein'.
And, the monster was last seen IN the Antarctic. Jumping into a giant funeral pyre. If you are going to quote classic literature, do your research. Instead of spouting out another crap piece.
For the record, and AOL Has mentioned it several times (Steve Case, as well as other execs): While AOL Owns Netscape, they will not ship Netscape with AOL As long as their bundling deal with Microsoft stands. Basically the deal MS and AOL have is that as long as AOL packages IE as the default browser with AOL, Windows installation will place a nice little AOL icon on the user's desktop - this is viral marketing and supposedly has worked very well for AOL - they aren't about to lose this ?wonderful? source of new business.
I don't think that AOL questioning Netscape's stability and product quality has any play here.
Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and Red Dwarf. Need I say more? American Humor these days seems to be based upon the cultural reality that we are a bunch of lazy fucks. The British humor that I have always liked always seems to capitalize on the underlying laugh - the ultimate joke. (Well, Ok - Red Dwarf capitalizes on Lister being a lazy fuck =) ). Just my $35. -brendan
That is such complete and utter BULLSHIT. I know a LOT of contractors - some are some of the best I've met at what they do - programming, systems administration, etc. Why do they contract? Because the money is usually better. And they don't feel like they're stuck in a career path with one company that could go belly up at any time. Real contractors make excellent money.
I might remind all of you who are assuming that he is guilty already, these are allegations. Last I checked the constitution still guaranteed United States citizens the right to a fair trial and upheld the notion that we are all innocent until proven guilty.
Until a court of law, and a jury of his peers has ruled a verdict upon Mr. Naughton, kindly show him some respect. These crimes are alleged - keep that in mind.
Well, For clarification of a point here - the things you get that are extra with "Official RedHat Linux" box set is:
(1) Relatively [IMHO] useless manual which can be downloaded in its entirety in PDF Form from RedHat's site.
(1) Powered by RedHat case logo sticker [which i find cool but i'm easily amused]
(1) RedHat Bumper Sticker
(1) Source Code CD [containing all the source code for RedHat - downloadable from their site
(1) Applications CD - this contains demos of alot of different commercial applications for RedHat, as well as some free ones (Corel WordPerfect for example - and i think staroffice might be on there)
Installation Tech Support
So, In all honesty you are paying for a lot extra. It isn't petty - it's protecting their image. Sure, its cool that you get alot of this stuff free from them w/o a cent - but it's important to maintain a good image by ensuring people know if they are buying a boxed set with all of those aformentioned goodies and extras - or a burn of a downloaded copy of Redhat. All RedHat is really asking for is some assistance in clarification.
"It also avoids pissing off the Anonymous Cowards...:) " YAH! Damn Anonymous Cowards =p
Slashdot Mirror
I have a Motorola P280 (purchased last year) TriBand GSM Mobile which does the same thing. It's access is via t-mobile here in the states; it came with a serial cable which plugs right into the phone - the phone is a full 56k modem which when plugged into serial port is addressable as a standard modem - no special software required.
It also handles GPRS modem, which does require special "iStream" software ( dunno what voicestream calls it now that they rebanded to t-mobile) and only runs on Windows.
It has all the same features of the above mentioned modem, but it also is a phone.
I paid about $300 for it in January, so it's probably more affordable now.
They have an i280 now also that is same phone PLUS bluetooth.
I love the Motorola bluetooth car kit....
I would remind all of you that it is work; playtime is for home. Most firms are right in asserting that IRC, personal email, recreational browsing, etc are verboten in the workplace. Why are they paying bandwidth fees and your salary for you to goof off? If you want to play all day go back to kindergarten.
And besides, what the hell kind of Techies are you that you can't get around shit like this and are even CONCERNED About it? SSH Tunnel to a remote box and do all your stuff through there. Or employ any number of things. If it came down to them restricting our access to the outside world (ssh, web) at all it would be another issue - we'd be unable to do the development testing and research we needed. But for now it's just locking down stuff like email and web usage. I don't see a big deal here.
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There are two things to note:
There is prior art for this stuff. Besides TiVo, people have tried to do this kind of technology before in the past; Java was spawned off of an 'embedded systems language' called Oak; which IIRC was built for things like PVRs, etc... but in the early 90s the public just wasn't ready for that kind of tech. Regardless, at the least TiVo was around before ReplayTV. Prior art is a powerful thing. Besides, SonicBlue has M$ To contend with as well, M$ having that UltimateTV thing (Which I strangely haven't seen/ heard ads for lately; i remember them blitzing the media early this summer.)
Additionally, as referenced in This Slashdot Article from earlier this year, TiVo was also recently granted a slew of patents on PVR Tech. I'm not sure which company got what tech patented however...
The benefit to an Open API like OpenGL is that it is cross platform, and cross hardware.
Lets examine a few things:
1) DirectX is Windows only. Developers who develop under DirectX/D3D have a harder time porting from platform to platform because of the API.
2) Let's look at a more closed API, which you claim is just fine. 3Dfx for example. For a long time when 3dFx took over the gaming graphics market, it used a proprietary API called 'glide'. The problem arose when new, better video cards came out. They couldn't run the Glide apps, and everyone was developing JUST for glide. So new manufacturers had a hard time, as did customers.
Using an Open API like OpenGL allows cross platform, cross hardware development much easier. It simply requires a manufacturer releasing an OpenGL ICD for their card, and their card runs OpenGL (Assuming it's internal hardware meets the requirements of the application in question).
Companies looking to port their app to multiple platforms have a much easier time; OpenGL is available on most major platforms such as Unix, Windows and Mac.
It's partially collapses; the first page was probably from the first day or so of the attack.
I work at the bottom of Fulton street and when you get off the subway you can still see 5 WTC, but all the windows have been blown out and its partly collapsed; I was up there Friday and the side towards the towers has a big slice out of its backend...
That's not the point.
If i use a piece of GPLed code; that code should remain GPLed. It shouldn't virally infect my own code if I don't choose to use the GPL. I contribute to several Open Source projects and choose not to use the GPL; I think it is a horrid license. And FTR, I *USE* BSD, thank you for the suggestion. I also use Linux in several places; I make sure not to license any code I write under the GPL because it sucks.
I am not looking to build an evil empire, or steal anyones code. But I think that an Open Source license should allow me to use it under its terms, without it infecting my code.
Yes, by the supreme court, after the Electoral system failed to work properly.
It's not an issue of something that doesn't "Affect me". I am involved in open source development. And one of the worst parts about the GPL that I fail to mention is its virility. Why if I use a piece of GPLed code am I now forced to license my entire product under GPL?
Yes, RMS and the FSF have been vocal in moving the Free software movement; but its also things like insisting we call it "GNU/Linux" that make them look like a bunch of fucking lunatics.
He's an idiot. Face it. Why the hell anyone would license their code under the GPL is beyond me. The GPL is a horrible, restrictive (funny I should say that since RMS talks about how 'restrictive' other licenses are) license which gives RMS and his Nazis exclusive rights to prosecute violations of your licensing, and in many ways rights to your software itself.
Everyone is encouraged to look at licenses like the Artistic License (Written by Perl God Larry Wall) and the BSD License available at opensource.org.
Maybe if everyone ignores this GPL crap RMS will take his bullshit elsewhere.
I was going in late today; i saw this article and called my office, which is about 3 blocks from WTC; I go through WTC on the way to work and would have been on the way through when this happens.
I'm watching CNN now; its fucking scary.
Our CEO told me he watched it, people were jumping out of the windows (unclear if he meant the plane or the building). I have friends and coworkers who work in the WTC and the WFC. Let's all pray for them and their families.
-Brendan W. McAdams
It sounds more likely that this is going to be a setup similar to what some airlines have now; the airphones have modem jacks in the back.
More likely than the airline providing a wireless card, will be the airline throwing a 10base jack in the back of your chair, that you plug straight into. Since just about everyone has a NIC in their laptops these days, it would be a simple thing to do.
I find it strange that people see stuff like this as a bad thing. I mean, is it so bad to lay down money for games? It's not like they're asking you to pay $500 for Photoshop or Office.
My only real complaint about console games is there aren't more readily available ways to 'try' games. I go to local retailers and they never have test units available; and none of the local rental places seem to ever rent any decent games.
Also, quick question.
What on my machine exactly is "locking" the installation? Hard drive serial number? MAC Address? CPU ID # ? (Conceivably, MS could require us to turn on our CPU ID in the BIOS if we wanted to run Whistler.)
This isn't as big a deal as everyone thinks.
Seeing as everything has moved to a ".net" strategy (it will do all data transmissions via the internet), we can easily circumvent what is essentially an extremely trivial protection scheme.
We drop said box on a closed off LAN with no external access, and do some packet sniffing. See what data the installation is trying to send to where, then once we figure out what it wants to hear, setup a daemon on a local box, pretending to be the 'clearinghouse' server.
Problem solved.
For starters:
The monster was the monster. Not Frankenstein. Frankenstein was the doctor. You at least once referred to the MONSTER as 'frankenstein'.
And, the monster was last seen IN the Antarctic. Jumping into a giant funeral pyre. If you are going to quote classic literature, do your research. Instead of spouting out another crap piece.
For the record, and AOL Has mentioned it several times (Steve Case, as well as other execs):
While AOL Owns Netscape, they will not ship Netscape with AOL As long as their bundling deal with Microsoft stands.
Basically the deal MS and AOL have is that as long as AOL packages IE as the default browser with AOL, Windows installation will place a nice little AOL icon on the user's desktop - this is viral marketing and supposedly has worked very well for AOL - they aren't about to lose this ?wonderful? source of new business.
I don't think that AOL questioning Netscape's stability and product quality has any play here.
-Brendan
Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and Red Dwarf.
Need I say more?
American Humor these days seems to be based upon the cultural reality that we are a bunch of lazy fucks.
The British humor that I have always liked always seems to capitalize on the underlying laugh - the ultimate joke.
(Well, Ok - Red Dwarf capitalizes on Lister being a lazy fuck =) ).
Just my $35. -brendan
That is such complete and utter BULLSHIT.
I know a LOT of contractors - some are some of the best I've met at what they do - programming, systems administration, etc.
Why do they contract? Because the money is usually better. And they don't feel like they're stuck in a career path with one company that could go belly up at any time. Real contractors make excellent money.
I might remind all of you who are assuming that he is guilty already, these are allegations. Last I checked the constitution still guaranteed United States citizens the right to a fair trial and upheld the notion that we are all innocent until proven guilty.
Until a court of law, and a jury of his peers has ruled a verdict upon Mr. Naughton, kindly show him some respect. These crimes are alleged - keep that in mind.
Oh come on moderators! This is the guy who owns the site linked....this has gotta be a funny.
For clarification of a point here - the things you get that are extra with "Official RedHat Linux" box set is:
(1) Relatively [IMHO] useless manual which can be downloaded in its entirety in PDF Form from RedHat's site.
(1) Powered by RedHat case logo sticker [which i find cool but i'm easily amused]
(1) RedHat Bumper Sticker
(1) Source Code CD [containing all the source code for RedHat - downloadable from their site
(1) Applications CD - this contains demos of alot of different commercial applications for RedHat, as well as some free ones (Corel WordPerfect for example - and i think staroffice might be on there)
Installation Tech Support
So, In all honesty you are paying for a lot extra. It isn't petty - it's protecting their image. Sure, its cool that you get alot of this stuff free from them w/o a cent - but it's important to maintain a good image by ensuring people know if they are buying a boxed set with all of those aformentioned goodies and extras - or a burn of a downloaded copy of Redhat. All RedHat is really asking for is some assistance in clarification.
-brendan
It should be noted that this event was instituted and is being organised by the gentleman who MADE that ping.
... Wired is probably wrong.
Not to be anal here, but I would tend to think he would recall the date properly
And to think that without the Internet, I'd probably still be a paramedic/firefighter.
Scary, eh?
-brendan