He could have asked the tech support person for their name (or an alias, cubicle number, internal extension phone number) and an issue password (like "carnation in label") for identifying your conversation. Or just agree that your problem description will be "Jones said the 800 number in New York had 1,543 callers." (if "Jones" is someone's name he'll be asked about the message) Then simply file a tech support report which does not describe the problem in a way which would inform a listener, and mention the above name and password so that person can brief someone inside the office.
Why all the cloak and dagger stuff? I don't think he's up against the CIA or the KGB here. It's a case of a DNS hijacking, not P2P file trading or anything serious like that.
As much as I like Tom Clancy, it seems that too much of a good thing is possible.
Unfortunately, you can't take flammable liquids like lighter fluid aboard aircraft,
You can't? I've never been stopped from taking my Zippo or Bic on board. Of course, it's been years since I've flown and I know that they could of changed this by now, but I would assume that as long as you don't try to take the lighter fluid bottle on board, they are not going to question your cell phone or laptop.
This is true. In the town I live in, BOTH McDonald's AND Burger King are hiring. As I understand it, they have lots of "Senior Developers" working there.
Secondly, the fact that I voted for the right party and lost is little consolation when I'm getting little "Private and Confidential" third notices in the mail.
Do you seriously think that having a republician in office is the reason my you're late on your payments? I'd like to see the logic behind that.
Of course I'm voting to better my situation. How does one vote to better their situation? I can see planning for the future better, managing money better, looking for a better job to improve your situation. I can't see however voting to improve your situation.
It's apparent that this country is largely comprised of SUV-driving home-owning smiley happy fuckers that are all to content to live off my misery.
Hmmm, I don't own an SUV, but I do own my home. I had thought that I needed to work for 40-60 hours a week to live, support my kids, etc. Now that I found out that I can live off your misery I guess I can just quit and you being miserable will do the rest.
As far as the orignal question goes, what to do about an boss who wants too much OT for free? Sit down and talk to them about the project. See if it's possible to get either comp time, a completion bonus for the group, or some other reward for working those hours. If that's not goig to happen, I'd start using your free 12 hours a day (sleep is for the weak) to look for a better job, but just don't quit because things are difficult.
The way I see it we have two problems: 1) Violent/sexual content on TV 2) People dumb enough to model their lives on said TV content
And myself, I see the two problems as: 1)I think there should be MORE SEX and a touch more violence on TV because I'm a guy and I like things like that and 2) No one really seems to care what I think in problem 1).
I could be wrong. After all, I'll let my kids listen to Nine In Nails or Sisters Of Mercy long before I'll let them play Britney or the Back Street Boys in the house.
I'm also weird that I insist that there is an equal ammount of Discovery/TLC/Science viewed as there is cartoons or shows. This gives them a little bit of knowldge and some entertainment. Also, when it's time to pick out a family movie, I'm not too worried about "protecting" them because I know that they are good natured and smart enough not to base their decisions in life on a movie/song/tv show.
I would define the term as anyone in the Green Party, but that's just me and I am perhaps biased.
People who oppose Nuclear Power Plants so that we can manufacture HappyMeal Toys?
Show me a cleaner, safer way to produce the electricity that powers your computer. HappyMeal toys aside, we use electric power every day and I've yet to see a safer method of producing it.
Its not just the pollution itself, its a question of risk/cost vs. gain
If you compare the dangers of different sources of energy production, nuclear is by far the safest EVER. So the question of risk/cost vs gain puts the nukes in the lead.
we are taking much liberty with the natural world
How so? Can you give me an example?
So people can buy their 15th pair of %big-brand-name% shoes this year? F that noise.
I've had the same pair of shoes for 2 years now, so I'm not sure that's a good example of why we are looking towards nuclear power for energy production and in this case, nuclear propultion.
As for this projet, I wouldnt be against it. But I am a member of the Green Party
Does this mean that you'd approve of the project if you didn't belong to the green party, or that you DO approve of this despite the fact that your part of the green party, or that the green party supports this?
Environmentalists are not insane, m'kay?
I guess I'd say that not ALL environmentalists are insane, but seems to be a higher percentage than normal.
Powerfull people want you to dismiss reasoned arguments
I've yet to see a reasoned argument from the Green Party...
so that you'll continue to mindlessly consume... and pollute, and destroy nature... got that Consumer1bx231-c12?
Yes, I suspose there are those who would like to see the world stripped of all of it's natural resources and polute freely - like in that cartoon Capt. Planet. However, we don't live in a cartoon world and compromises must be made. We face a world with an ever increasing population despite some good ideas to keep it under control. People consume resources and short of killing everyone off, or changing everyone's lifestlye by force, there are not a lot of other viable options to meet the desires and goals of the Green Party.
The real reason the US government is pushing for nuclear propulsion for civilian use is that it gives it a cover under which to explore putting other kinds of nuclear devices into orbits: nuclear-powered particle weapons, atom bombs, etc.
I honestly can't tell if you're being funny or just paranoid. You seriosly don't believe this do you? Is there a basis for this line of reasoning or is this just a personal theory?
I think we'll see the comerical application of BioWare/MeatWare (powered by nanotech) by 2013. The guys who implant this stuff will be titled ripper docs and will work in strip malls rather than hospitials and security/police forces will be Solos.
OR maybe I played too much CyberPunk 2013/2020 when I was growing up. Also looking forward to 2035 when it becomes legal to put heavy machine guns on your car.
I the most toxic element of recicling computers isnot dealing with the lead ani flux (by that point the flux is only there in trace amounts. It is the cemicals that are used to wash the boards of all metals. These cemicals are then normaly just pored down the drain.
You really think they are just pored down the drain? I have no idea what chemical is used to disolve the lead off the PCB, but I'll bet dollars to donuts that it's NOT just flushed down the drain. The EPA would have a FIT as would OSHA and half a dozen other government acronyms. I work for a place that makes the final PCAs, and I see what we have to go through just for fairly harmless chemicals.
I always thought the problem with dumping your PC in the trash was the ammount of mecury this guys had in the PCBs, but I could be wrong.
You got to use the *Serial* port? Man, you kids had all the goodies. We had to manually switch the bits using our fingers on a LOOM... and computers used to run on 10K volts back then too.
The C64 had MIDI and stereo sound and you used the slow-ass floppy drive to play music. Barbarian!
Hey, not all the time. I used to pump it to the TV. Didn't have a stereo TV, but that really didnt' seem to matter, I used to load up all sorts of MIDI files and play them. Heh, kind of the pre-MP3 machine. Had 3 seperate voices and several programmable "sprites" that made it very powerful for gaming.
I'll even admit that my favorite games are still C64 ones (like M.U.L.E.) - I still crank up the emulator and fire up the old classic games. I used to let the intro screen for MULE load over and over again playing it's funky music until it drove my parents insane.
Playing music and printing pictures on the line printer --- now those were the days!
I remember doing some of that on a LP too. Infact - our computer lab was decorated with the several ASCII pictures of AL and the NCC-1701. Around Christmas every year we'd save the sides of the tractor fed paper for a few days to decorate the tree and windows. I also had a program that made the C64 floppy drive play a tune.::Sniff:: that was one of the best times of my life. No job, no women, no kids, no worries. Well, it was good except for the no women part.
Kids these days are spoiled. Back in the good 'ol days when we all had 14.4 modems and we had to walk fifty miles in snow and ice just to pick it up. If we wanted to talk on the phone, tough luck!
BAH! You yourself was spoiled! I remember hooking up to a BBS at 300baud, and my first AOL experience was on a 1200baud modem. And this was HIGH tech stuff! I remember using my 720k 5.25" floppy to store ALL my programs on, and looking at the BIG 8" floppies that fit the machine in the corner, thinking - wow - if they are that much bigger, I wonder how much more data they hold.
When we got the "new" IBM-AT (286, 40Meg drive, 640k ram) - I remember saying "This is all the computing power I will ever need". Then I went to college, and they had HPUX green screen machines, where the best pr0n you could find was dirty stories, or images for the NEW Xterm machines - AND you had to find a way get it past the schools filters, and then keep it hidden from the school admins, AND you only had 4 meg on your account, so you could never keep more than a few files active at once. NO one at our school had heard of HTTP or Mozillia, mosiac or anything of the sort, tho I understand it had been out for a year or so.
Yesterdays internet sucked too, you just didn't realize it.
Let's say the worm uses port 80. And let's also say that this program is perhaps a variant of something know, but has changed enough that IDS sigs don't detect it.
Now, how exactly do you think any firewall is going to stop this activity?
Well, personally, I tend to keep read the logs that my router sends. If I see unexpected activity, I do a little bit of research, and usually block the IP that the outgoing program is trying to send to. Having never been subject to a worm, I have been able to keep a nasty piece of spywear from reporting home on boot up.
Not a perfect solution by any means, and of course, it has to get out at least once before I can catch it. Maybe I need more of a life but I really don't care for my bandwidth and my net connection being used with out my approvial.
Yeah, I think I need more of a life.
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If your own commercialism stops innovation from reaching consumers, vote democratic. Don't oppose taxes. Write letters to your local representatives.
If the issue of FTTC or FTTH is ever supported by the democratic party, then I'll vote for it. As it is, I think too much of my tax money goes to social programs. Seems that the USA is a little behind on the broadband wagon, with the exception of a few communities that are not waiting for the cable or phone companies to run FTTC, but are doing it themselves. Good for them. I have written my local reps, but haven't recieved a response back on my queries of when FTTC/H is coming here.
I had a point here, but it seems to of escaped me, but this is/. after all, so I guess I don't need one.
I think the American military uses "gamma" for "g", as do some other people (It's better than "golf" because it's two syllables.)
Nope, at least when I was in we still used "Golf". Remember, a lot of people who think the Army is a good paying job might not comprehend two syllable words.:) I have been lead to believe that most of *that* type find their way into the USMC.
sonally I don't see any use for software firewalls for the majority of home users.
Kind of funny that this comes up right as I'm thinking that my hardware/router based firewall isnt' enough and that I need to back it up with a linux software firewall.
IIRC on the home routers, any program requesting a port to talk out of can recieve a request back on it. SO... your WORM opens up port n, sends the info, get's it's commands to try on your system, then sends off the next command it's done/how and waits for it's marching orders.
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He could have asked the tech support person for their name (or an alias, cubicle number, internal extension phone number) and an issue password (like "carnation in label") for identifying your conversation. Or just agree that your problem description will be "Jones said the 800 number in New York had 1,543 callers." (if "Jones" is someone's name he'll be asked about the message)
Then simply file a tech support report which does not describe the problem in a way which would inform a listener, and mention the above name and password so that person can brief someone inside the office.
Why all the cloak and dagger stuff? I don't think he's up against the CIA or the KGB here. It's a case of a DNS hijacking, not P2P file trading or anything serious like that.
As much as I like Tom Clancy, it seems that too much of a good thing is possible.
Unfortunately, you can't take flammable liquids like lighter fluid aboard aircraft,
You can't? I've never been stopped from taking my Zippo or Bic on board. Of course, it's been years since I've flown and I know that they could of changed this by now, but I would assume that as long as you don't try to take the lighter fluid bottle on board, they are not going to question your cell phone or laptop.
I want to know what you think this could be used for.
Flexible pr0n viewer! I can't think of a better use.
Well, if I could lick my own genitals, I'd be my own best friend, too.
Yeah, if I could do that, I'd never leave the house.
AFAIK, every developer worth his salt dates everything.
Except for members of the opposit sex.
What ever happened to "Real programers don't comment code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to read and even harder to fix."?
...jobs are not hard to find.
This is true. In the town I live in, BOTH McDonald's AND Burger King are hiring. As I understand it, they have lots of "Senior Developers" working there.
Secondly, the fact that I voted for the right party and lost is little consolation when I'm getting little "Private and Confidential" third notices in the mail.
Do you seriously think that having a republician in office is the reason my you're late on your payments? I'd like to see the logic behind that.
Of course I'm voting to better my situation.
How does one vote to better their situation? I can see planning for the future better, managing money better, looking for a better job to improve your situation. I can't see however voting to improve your situation.
It's apparent that this country is largely comprised of SUV-driving home-owning smiley happy fuckers that are all to content to live off my misery.
Hmmm, I don't own an SUV, but I do own my home. I had thought that I needed to work for 40-60 hours a week to live, support my kids, etc. Now that I found out that I can live off your misery I guess I can just quit and you being miserable will do the rest.
As far as the orignal question goes, what to do about an boss who wants too much OT for free? Sit down and talk to them about the project. See if it's possible to get either comp time, a completion bonus for the group, or some other reward for working those hours. If that's not goig to happen, I'd start using your free 12 hours a day (sleep is for the weak) to look for a better job, but just don't quit because things are difficult.
"TV is a good thing, because with out it I'd have to watch my porn on a tiny monitor." - Me
The way I see it we have two problems: 1) Violent/sexual content on TV 2) People dumb enough to model their lives on said TV content
And myself, I see the two problems as: 1)I think there should be MORE SEX and a touch more violence on TV because I'm a guy and I like things like that and 2) No one really seems to care what I think in problem 1).
I could be wrong. After all, I'll let my kids listen to Nine In Nails or Sisters Of Mercy long before I'll let them play Britney or the Back Street Boys in the house.
I'm also weird that I insist that there is an equal ammount of Discovery/TLC/Science viewed as there is cartoons or shows. This gives them a little bit of knowldge and some entertainment. Also, when it's time to pick out a family movie, I'm not too worried about "protecting" them because I know that they are good natured and smart enough not to base their decisions in life on a movie/song/tv show.
But like I said, that's just me.
Man, of all the times to of never had mod points... that was wonderful. Thank you.
I would define the term as anyone in the Green Party, but that's just me and I am perhaps biased.
People who oppose Nuclear Power Plants so that we can manufacture HappyMeal Toys?
Show me a cleaner, safer way to produce the electricity that powers your computer. HappyMeal toys aside, we use electric power every day and I've yet to see a safer method of producing it.
Its not just the pollution itself, its a question of risk/cost vs. gain
If you compare the dangers of different sources of energy production, nuclear is by far the safest EVER. So the question of risk/cost vs gain puts the nukes in the lead.
we are taking much liberty with the natural world
How so? Can you give me an example?
So people can buy their 15th pair of %big-brand-name% shoes this year? F that noise.
I've had the same pair of shoes for 2 years now, so I'm not sure that's a good example of why we are looking towards nuclear power for energy production and in this case, nuclear propultion.
As for this projet, I wouldnt be against it. But I am a member of the Green Party
Does this mean that you'd approve of the project if you didn't belong to the green party, or that you DO approve of this despite the fact that your part of the green party, or that the green party supports this?
Environmentalists are not insane, m'kay?
I guess I'd say that not ALL environmentalists are insane, but seems to be a higher percentage than normal.
Powerfull people want you to dismiss reasoned arguments
I've yet to see a reasoned argument from the Green Party...
so that you'll continue to mindlessly consume... and pollute, and destroy nature... got that Consumer1bx231-c12?
Yes, I suspose there are those who would like to see the world stripped of all of it's natural resources and polute freely - like in that cartoon Capt. Planet. However, we don't live in a cartoon world and compromises must be made. We face a world with an ever increasing population despite some good ideas to keep it under control. People consume resources and short of killing everyone off, or changing everyone's lifestlye by force, there are not a lot of other viable options to meet the desires and goals of the Green Party.
The real reason the US government is pushing for nuclear propulsion for civilian use is that it gives it a cover under which to explore putting other kinds of nuclear devices into orbits: nuclear-powered particle weapons, atom bombs, etc.
I honestly can't tell if you're being funny or just paranoid. You seriosly don't believe this do you? Is there a basis for this line of reasoning or is this just a personal theory?
Lost and confused...
I think we'll see the comerical application of BioWare/MeatWare (powered by nanotech) by 2013. The guys who implant this stuff will be titled ripper docs and will work in strip malls rather than hospitials and security/police forces will be Solos.
OR maybe I played too much CyberPunk 2013/2020 when I was growing up. Also looking forward to 2035 when it becomes legal to put heavy machine guns on your car.
I the most toxic element of recicling computers isnot dealing with the lead ani flux (by that point the flux is only there in trace amounts. It is the cemicals that are used to wash the boards of all metals. These cemicals are then normaly just pored down the drain.
You really think they are just pored down the drain? I have no idea what chemical is used to disolve the lead off the PCB, but I'll bet dollars to donuts that it's NOT just flushed down the drain. The EPA would have a FIT as would OSHA and half a dozen other government acronyms. I work for a place that makes the final PCAs, and I see what we have to go through just for fairly harmless chemicals.
I always thought the problem with dumping your PC in the trash was the ammount of mecury this guys had in the PCBs, but I could be wrong.
Some grocery stores here in MN started using bio-degradable, corn-based plastic bags at the checkout over 10 years ago.
I was just thinking about those. I remember them very well. IIRC - they were susposed to break down with in a few months of exposure to sun light.
Unfortunatly, they did have the tendancy to break down with in a few feet of the front of the store.
If you put them in a cup of water they dissolve back into a starchy goo
They also taste pretty good with a little salt.
You got to use the *Serial* port? Man, you kids had all the goodies. We had to manually switch the bits using our fingers on a LOOM... and computers used to run on 10K volts back then too.
The C64 had MIDI and stereo sound and you used the slow-ass floppy drive to play music. Barbarian!
Hey, not all the time. I used to pump it to the TV. Didn't have a stereo TV, but that really didnt' seem to matter, I used to load up all sorts of MIDI files and play them. Heh, kind of the pre-MP3 machine. Had 3 seperate voices and several programmable "sprites" that made it very powerful for gaming.
I'll even admit that my favorite games are still C64 ones (like M.U.L.E.) - I still crank up the emulator and fire up the old classic games. I used to let the intro screen for MULE load over and over again playing it's funky music until it drove my parents insane.
Playing music and printing pictures on the line printer --- now those were the days!
::Sniff:: that was one of the best times of my life. No job, no women, no kids, no worries. Well, it was good except for the no women part.
I remember doing some of that on a LP too. Infact - our computer lab was decorated with the several ASCII pictures of AL and the NCC-1701. Around Christmas every year we'd save the sides of the tractor fed paper for a few days to decorate the tree and windows. I also had a program that made the C64 floppy drive play a tune.
Kids these days are spoiled. Back in the good 'ol days when we all had 14.4 modems and we had to walk fifty miles in snow and ice just to pick it up. If we wanted to talk on the phone, tough luck!
BAH! You yourself was spoiled! I remember hooking up to a BBS at 300baud, and my first AOL experience was on a 1200baud modem. And this was HIGH tech stuff! I remember using my 720k 5.25" floppy to store ALL my programs on, and looking at the BIG 8" floppies that fit the machine in the corner, thinking - wow - if they are that much bigger, I wonder how much more data they hold.
When we got the "new" IBM-AT (286, 40Meg drive, 640k ram) - I remember saying "This is all the computing power I will ever need". Then I went to college, and they had HPUX green screen machines, where the best pr0n you could find was dirty stories, or images for the NEW Xterm machines - AND you had to find a way get it past the schools filters, and then keep it hidden from the school admins, AND you only had 4 meg on your account, so you could never keep more than a few files active at once. NO one at our school had heard of HTTP or Mozillia, mosiac or anything of the sort, tho I understand it had been out for a year or so.
Yesterdays internet sucked too, you just didn't realize it.
Let's say the worm uses port 80. And let's also say that this program is perhaps a variant of something know, but has changed enough that IDS sigs don't detect it.
Now, how exactly do you think any firewall is going to stop this activity?
Well, personally, I tend to keep read the logs that my router sends. If I see unexpected activity, I do a little bit of research, and usually block the IP that the outgoing program is trying to send to. Having never been subject to a worm, I have been able to keep a nasty piece of spywear from reporting home on boot up.
Not a perfect solution by any means, and of course, it has to get out at least once before I can catch it. Maybe I need more of a life but I really don't care for my bandwidth and my net connection being used with out my approvial.
Yeah, I think I need more of a life.
If your own commercialism stops innovation from reaching consumers, vote democratic. Don't oppose taxes. Write letters to your local representatives.
/. after all, so I guess I don't need one.
If the issue of FTTC or FTTH is ever supported by the democratic party, then I'll vote for it. As it is, I think too much of my tax money goes to social programs. Seems that the USA is a little behind on the broadband wagon, with the exception of a few communities that are not waiting for the cable or phone companies to run FTTC, but are doing it themselves. Good for them. I have written my local reps, but haven't recieved a response back on my queries of when FTTC/H is coming here.
I had a point here, but it seems to of escaped me, but this is
but - how many houses do you presently have wired together with cat5?
As of last week, 164. Of course, none of them know it and I'll get busted by the police if they catch me. Hrm... who's that knocking on the door?
I think the American military uses "gamma" for "g", as do some other people (It's better than "golf" because it's two syllables.)
:) I have been lead to believe that most of *that* type find their way into the USMC.
Nope, at least when I was in we still used "Golf". Remember, a lot of people who think the Army is a good paying job might not comprehend two syllable words.
sonally I don't see any use for software firewalls for the majority of home users.
Kind of funny that this comes up right as I'm thinking that my hardware/router based firewall isnt' enough and that I need to back it up with a linux software firewall.
IIRC on the home routers, any program requesting a port to talk out of can recieve a request back on it. SO... your WORM opens up port n, sends the info, get's it's commands to try on your system, then sends off the next command it's done/how and waits for it's marching orders.