Don't confuse the difference between "USA" and (un-elected) "President" Bush.
And don't confuse the "popular" vote with the constution. There were enough articles around the time of the election offering evidence of democratic cheating during the elections, that I don't know that Gore even won the "popular" vote.
UNR 0678 (1990) to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area
UNR 1284 (1999) Recalling that in its resolutions 686 (1991) and 687 (1991) the Council demanded that Iraq return in the shortest possible time all Kuwaiti property it had seized, and noting with regret that Iraq has still not complied fully with this demand,
UNR 1441 (2002)
The Security Council, Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President, Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,
Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,
Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area, Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions
Sounds to me like the USA took the "All necessary means" to be a forceful removal of the President. IIRC, no new declrations were needed since the terms of the cease fire were never fully met. In fact, in 1993 new recruits in the US Army were given Kuwait Liberation Medal.
The fact is, we did give peace a chance. Several chances in fact. We gave "goodwill pauses" for several years. There comes a time when you realize that the diplomatic process is being laughed at and you have to back those statement and resolutions up with some force. War is in fact a very ugly thing, but there are in fact times when deadly force is needed.
Sometimes, I just wish the US would keep the contries it beats in war, and those it liberates in the process. We could have UNA - United Nations of America and not have to worry about other nations being upset when we feel the need to do what we feel is right - but that's probably not a very good idea.
This is the worst ammount of half truthed drivel I think I've read here on/. BUT - I guess if that's your opinion, you've got a right to it. I'm going to take a guess and say that English isn't your first language, and that's ok too, it's a far cry better than some of the folks that live and work in the states.
This really isn't anywhere on topic is it, but then again - this is/. after all, where normally inteligent people let their brains take a vacation and try to discuss things that they think might of been in an article.
Basically, I don't see that it matters in the slightest *why* we deposed him. Whatever the reasons given, it needed to be done.
I'm not going to even pretend to know what the "real" reasons for us going in and desposing of him. They probably had something to do with what was made public, and something to do with issues the public has no clue about.
You sir, are correct in that it did need to be done. My only regret is that we seem to leave things half done instead of following through. I guess doing the least ammount possible makes the UN happy or something.
the US seems to be heading in the same direction No it doesn't. We are just starting to show signs of recovering from the DOTCOM blow up. Like it or not, any presidential administration has very little real effect on the economy as a whole. There are ways to nudge it in the desired direction, but most of it's up to you and I. Or at least that's what I seem to remember being taught in college.
Who would have realized that Clinton would look like a hero The only people Clinton will ever look like a hero to are the pot smoking adulters.
People are almost wishing that Bush would get into a sex scandal so life could get back to normal. No, they are not - except maybe to the same people who think Clinton was a hero. Goddamn hippies!
There are Economic benifits to a moon base, at least according to the article. True - it may take a lifetime to get a return on the investment, but isn't that worth it? Imagine the benifit of being able to charge landing fees for the only moon colony? Let's hope the *AA don't get their hands on this one!
Not only that, it's a viable argument that we will HAVE to have a colony on the moon before the human race can truly reach to the stars. If China gets there first, and makes a good go of it, good for them. I for one am not really afraid of them dropping rocks on me [see previous posts].
I see a lot of "I have the right" comments everywhere. But where do you think you have these rights?
It's always been my understanding that a goverment can recognize, secure and protect those rights... but they don't grant them. Something about "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" failing to mention the government, MPAA or RIAA as being anyone's Creator.
If there is a contract saying you can only play DVD's on an Authorized Player, and you accept that contract, then no Sir, you do not have the right to watch the DVD however fucking damn well you please.
Never seen such a contract. I know the DSS folks want me to believe there is one, I know they put hardware limitation in place to make sure I wasn't exposed to any forign films this year, but to the best of my knowldge, there is no contract made with the MPAA, implied or otherwise upon the purchase of a DVD
I see what you're saying in your post and I agree with this part - Not that I agree with the RIAA/MPAA on issues like this. On the contrary, I believe laws that benefit consumer freedoms and choice should be broad, while those limiting freedom and choice should be very narrow or non-existant. However it seems most of the laws today are turned the other way around.
Disclaimer - IANAL (those I like chicks who do). IANAH (I Am Not A Historian).
they were in breach of contract and had committed fraud?
IANAL, but this sounds more like false advertising rather than a breech of contract, but I agree with the other respondant - take it up with the PUC. From my experience with Qwest, the ammount of billing errors, non disclosed charges and other crap they pile onto bills, they give the impression of being nothing more than a buch of theiving goat fuckers.
You are incorrect if you make more then $125,000 a year. The sticker price was going to be in the quarter million dollar range.
Ah, so if I saved everything I've made in the... last 10 years (the time I was in the Army I didn't make much at all) I could pay cash for one of these. However, with my PowerBall retirement fund [snicker], these might one day be in reach.
Everyone has made some really good points for both sides of this. But honestly, If Verizon wants to run fiber to my home, charge me out the ass for service - I'd be all for it. **ANYTHING** to get QWEST out my home. Qwest is the only company I've ever had when calling to have a mistake corrected (or recorrected) on my bill has become the norm, not the exception. Qwest is also the only company that let a rep call me a liar, to my face and did nothing about it. I use Verizon for my cell phone. I get great service and the one problem I had on my bill, was corrected quickly and politely.
I'd rather the fiber be laid by the city of Ft. Collins, and have it run like a utility, with them opening access to other groups, but if they won't - and Verizon will - good for them. There are pros and cons to letting them keep exclusive control - but in my eyes, and with my experience - it looks like we're talking about the lesser of two evils.
all I could think was that is the ugliest car I have ever seen.
See, there you go. I've not been smoking anything and I think it is, as Cartman would say 'Hella Cool'. Sweet modern look, kinda goth and tech at the same time. The only thing that's going to keep me from buying one of these [if|when] then come out is going to be the sticker price. Probably cost more than I've made in the last 2 years combined.
Still, hand woven silk carpets - I guess you get what you pay for.
anyone any idea what the bottom photo on the accessories page is? It isn't labelled in any way.
Ummm... the pic at the bottom of the accessories page is labeled "Fashionable Stylus", so Umm... I would have to guess that it's a fashionable Stylus. Maybe they updated the page since you looked at it.
I can think of any number of uses for this tool, in terms of instant access and sys work.
I can also think of a number of highly illegal uses for its capabilities.
I can only hope that you're talking about the Yopy in general and not the stylus with these two comments.:)
Dude, I've got a Dell! Actually was impressed enough with the Dell Axim's specs that we ordered a few to test, and have been using them as our "Standard issue for techs" PDA. With the 300Mhz model, the 802.11b card, the USB sync cradle and a beefy 3400mAh battery, I think they run a little under $400 for the combo pack we've picked out.
The thing I like most about them, the long battery life - I get 6-8 hours of ALWAYS on use with the 802.11b card with the standard battery, and 13+ hours of constant with the 3400mAh battery.
My least favorite? PPC2002 OS. Seems that the system STILL has bugs to be worked out of the OS. Sometimes things just don't work as you would expect them to (like pushing the power button and expecting it to turn off).
The two bucks I spend for a beer, I already paid taxes on, should that mean the bar is tax exempt?
No, it shouldn't be tax exempt. You're getting a service or some sorts of goods from it. This is why it's called sales tax. If they taxed that income a second time, or taxed you twice for the same property (as with the inheritance tax) then it's wrong.
Don't get me wrong at all, I agree fully with paying taxes and have refused to do business with places that cheat on taxes (man I miss that place sometimes, great prices on used hardware).
The only purpose of the government is, as a group, do what can't be done by an individual. I can't build a road, raise an army or administer justice (tho I've been tempted before). These are good things, and they do in fact cost money. Lots of money. But, there is so much waste and [Federal|state|local] jobs that really have no purpose other than to keep the position they are in. The people of this nation are over taxed (and there are way too many laws, but that's a different can of worms).
Every poor dipshit in my state votes republican then bitches when we get less money from the federal government. Morons.
I find that most of the Republician party to be above average in income, usually because they want to keep the money they earn, rather than give it to someone who didn't. You might feel differently about a 400 million tax cut if you had enough money to invest.
The funny thing, in my state, both smart dems voted republician last election.
Odd thing is - I worked for volt for 18 months on a single contract. Nothing about competing every came up, not once. They were really good to me, maybe the legal paperwork is different for each contract, or is different now than it was back in 99 when I got hired on full time at the place they placed me.
Well, your "most people" who think they're going to "arrive" are just deluding themselves. Do you make less than $300,000/year? You're NOT rich. You're not likely to become rich, either. Unless you're waiting for Uncle moneybags to die, waiting to get that $3 million/year contract from (insert sports team here), or have incriminating evidence on your boss/board of directors.
Yeah, that's right - no one can make it in the world today. There are no smart people left in the world and we all need to rely on Uncle to take care of us.
It's like when the Republicans were going around calling the inheritance tax, the (cue spooky music) "Death Tax."
Yeah, that sounds about right. Someone dies, and the government wants money. Sounds like a "Death Tax" to me.
Lots of people were against it, naturally. Of course, unless they inherited a quarter million dollars, or more, they wouldn't get hit by it.
So $250k that what anymore? A house, half of a house? Your [uncle|father|brother|misc] can't leave you a house with out the government getting a chunk of it?
[liberal whining cut] inherit a ton of money (that should rightly be taxed).
How the hell do you figure that inheritance should be taxed? I'm going to say this slow so you'll understand.... *It's* *already* *had* *it's* *taxes* *paid* *on* *it*. It's this kind of thinking that has put the country in the shape it's in. We already pay *WAY* too much in taxes. Makes me kind of sick really.
Running Linux on XBOX violates Microsoft's IP rights and they should prosecute everyone who attempts it.
I think the idea here is that once you own something, it's yours. You can use it for it's intended purpose (playing games), use it as a book end, if you can find a way to have sex with it, by all means - do so. Take it apart, mod the hell out of it, no problem.
However, there is a grey area here. The mod chips might be an IP voilation. This is what old MS wants to crack down on, not the person who wants to put linux on their machine.
As long as we're feeding the AC trolls, might as well throw in that I really kinda like my X-Box, but I do wish it had more games for kids. Last summer, we were in best buy looking for some stuff and I let the play with the game cube. Took each of them (ages 5-9) about 10 seconds to start playing the game. I've never seen something like that on Xbox. Course... I remember when it was cool to have 2 "Fire" buttons on a joystick.
Let's see. Secure job as a social worker. Check. Father in Iraq so that somebody needs to be the man around the house. Check. Sister is home from college waiting for her summer job teaching at a camp to start, check. Oh, hey look, I'm supporting my damn family, also check.
Hey man, good for you - it's nice to see families sticking together these days. When you get your new box, you might consider locking down your old one so your sister can use it without her destroying the OS by acciedently installing this crap.
It's amazing when someone brings me a box to fix because "it just doesn't work right" the thing is usually filled with spywear and works tons better after running ad aware (or the like).
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Don't confuse the difference between "USA" and (un-elected) "President" Bush.
And don't confuse the "popular" vote with the constution. There were enough articles around the time of the election offering evidence of democratic cheating during the elections, that I don't know that Gore even won the "popular" vote.
At the very least, MY president has a backbone.
At least you have a new friend.
As do you.
IANAL but
UNR 0678 (1990)
to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area
UNR 1284 (1999)
Recalling that in its resolutions 686 (1991) and 687 (1991) the Council demanded that Iraq return in the shortest possible time all Kuwaiti property it had seized, and noting with regret that Iraq has still not complied fully with this demand,
UNR 1441 (2002)
The Security Council, Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President, Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,
Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,
Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area, Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions
Sounds to me like the USA took the "All necessary means" to be a forceful removal of the President. IIRC, no new declrations were needed since the terms of the cease fire were never fully met. In fact, in 1993 new recruits in the US Army were given Kuwait Liberation Medal.
The fact is, we did give peace a chance. Several chances in fact. We gave "goodwill pauses" for several years. There comes a time when you realize that the diplomatic process is being laughed at and you have to back those statement and resolutions up with some force. War is in fact a very ugly thing, but there are in fact times when deadly force is needed.
Sometimes, I just wish the US would keep the contries it beats in war, and those it liberates in the process. We could have UNA - United Nations of America and not have to worry about other nations being upset when we feel the need to do what we feel is right - but that's probably not a very good idea.
This is the worst ammount of half truthed drivel I think I've read here on /. BUT - I guess if that's your opinion, you've got a right to it. I'm going to take a guess and say that English isn't your first language, and that's ok too, it's a far cry better than some of the folks that live and work in the states.
/. after all, where normally inteligent people let their brains take a vacation and try to discuss things that they think might of been in an article.
This really isn't anywhere on topic is it, but then again - this is
Basically, I don't see that it matters in the slightest *why* we deposed him. Whatever the reasons given, it needed to be done.
I'm not going to even pretend to know what the "real" reasons for us going in and desposing of him. They probably had something to do with what was made public, and something to do with issues the public has no clue about.
You sir, are correct in that it did need to be done. My only regret is that we seem to leave things half done instead of following through. I guess doing the least ammount possible makes the UN happy or something.
the US seems to be heading in the same direction No it doesn't. We are just starting to show signs of recovering from the DOTCOM blow up. Like it or not, any presidential administration has very little real effect on the economy as a whole. There are ways to nudge it in the desired direction, but most of it's up to you and I. Or at least that's what I seem to remember being taught in college.
Who would have realized that Clinton would look like a hero The only people Clinton will ever look like a hero to are the pot smoking adulters.
People are almost wishing that Bush would get into a sex scandal so life could get back to normal. No, they are not - except maybe to the same people who think Clinton was a hero. Goddamn hippies!
There are Economic benifits to a moon base, at least according to the article. True - it may take a lifetime to get a return on the investment, but isn't that worth it? Imagine the benifit of being able to charge landing fees for the only moon colony? Let's hope the *AA don't get their hands on this one!
Not only that, it's a viable argument that we will HAVE to have a colony on the moon before the human race can truly reach to the stars. If China gets there first, and makes a good go of it, good for them. I for one am not really afraid of them dropping rocks on me [see previous posts].
Your 50 kg rock will pack as much punch as 4000 pounds of TNT. Whoopi-friggin-doo. And the energy only scales *linearly* with mass.
[silly]
So if they launch the entire moon (with base) at the US - that would be a bad thing, right? [/silly]
I see a lot of "I have the right" comments everywhere. But where do you think you have these rights?
It's always been my understanding that a goverment can recognize, secure and protect those rights... but they don't grant them. Something about "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" failing to mention the government, MPAA or RIAA as being anyone's Creator.
If there is a contract saying you can only play DVD's on an Authorized Player, and you accept that contract, then no Sir, you do not have the right to watch the DVD however fucking damn well you please.
Never seen such a contract. I know the DSS folks want me to believe there is one, I know they put hardware limitation in place to make sure I wasn't exposed to any forign films this year, but to the best of my knowldge, there is no contract made with the MPAA, implied or otherwise upon the purchase of a DVD
I see what you're saying in your post and I agree with this part - Not that I agree with the RIAA/MPAA on issues like this. On the contrary, I believe laws that benefit consumer freedoms and choice should be broad, while those limiting freedom and choice should be very narrow or non-existant. However it seems most of the laws today are turned the other way around.
Disclaimer - IANAL (those I like chicks who do). IANAH (I Am Not A Historian).
they were in breach of contract and had committed fraud?
IANAL, but this sounds more like false advertising rather than a breech of contract, but I agree with the other respondant - take it up with the PUC. From my experience with Qwest, the ammount of billing errors, non disclosed charges and other crap they pile onto bills, they give the impression of being nothing more than a buch of theiving goat fuckers.
You are incorrect if you make more then $125,000 a year. The sticker price was going to be in the quarter million dollar range.
Ah, so if I saved everything I've made in the... last 10 years (the time I was in the Army I didn't make much at all) I could pay cash for one of these. However, with my PowerBall retirement fund [snicker], these might one day be in reach.
Everyone has made some really good points for both sides of this. But honestly, If Verizon wants to run fiber to my home, charge me out the ass for service - I'd be all for it. **ANYTHING** to get QWEST out my home. Qwest is the only company I've ever had when calling to have a mistake corrected (or recorrected) on my bill has become the norm, not the exception. Qwest is also the only company that let a rep call me a liar, to my face and did nothing about it. I use Verizon for my cell phone. I get great service and the one problem I had on my bill, was corrected quickly and politely.
I'd rather the fiber be laid by the city of Ft. Collins, and have it run like a utility, with them opening access to other groups, but if they won't - and Verizon will - good for them. There are pros and cons to letting them keep exclusive control - but in my eyes, and with my experience - it looks like we're talking about the lesser of two evils.
all I could think was that is the ugliest car I have ever seen.
See, there you go. I've not been smoking anything and I think it is, as Cartman would say 'Hella Cool'. Sweet modern look, kinda goth and tech at the same time. The only thing that's going to keep me from buying one of these [if|when] then come out is going to be the sticker price. Probably cost more than I've made in the last 2 years combined.
Still, hand woven silk carpets - I guess you get what you pay for.
sharing my own X-rated version of The Little Mermaid
I'll take a copy, thanks!
Just look at Britney Spears...
Oh, believe me, I do. But what does she have to do with the RIAA - does she sing or something??
You did see that this was in the "Concept" area and that the poster aplogized for "thieving their gameboy promo pic."?
I don't think this is real. Of course, I can't tell from your post if you were serious or not.
anyone any idea what the bottom photo on the accessories page is? It isn't labelled in any way.
:)
Ummm... the pic at the bottom of the accessories page is labeled "Fashionable Stylus", so Umm... I would have to guess that it's a fashionable Stylus. Maybe they updated the page since you looked at it.
I can think of any number of uses for this tool, in terms of instant access and sys work.
I can also think of a number of highly illegal uses for its capabilities.
I can only hope that you're talking about the Yopy in general and not the stylus with these two comments.
Dude, I've got a Dell! Actually was impressed enough with the Dell Axim's specs that we ordered a few to test, and have been using them as our "Standard issue for techs" PDA. With the 300Mhz model, the 802.11b card, the USB sync cradle and a beefy 3400mAh battery, I think they run a little under $400 for the combo pack we've picked out.
The thing I like most about them, the long battery life - I get 6-8 hours of ALWAYS on use with the 802.11b card with the standard battery, and 13+ hours of constant with the 3400mAh battery.
My least favorite? PPC2002 OS. Seems that the system STILL has bugs to be worked out of the OS. Sometimes things just don't work as you would expect them to (like pushing the power button and expecting it to turn off).
Great, My raid is 3 40GB drives. 2 Maxtor and an IBM. Maybe I should of gone mirrored instead of striped.
Now, where did I put that old tape drive?
The two bucks I spend for a beer, I already paid taxes on, should that mean the bar is tax exempt?
No, it shouldn't be tax exempt. You're getting a service or some sorts of goods from it. This is why it's called sales tax. If they taxed that income a second time, or taxed you twice for the same property (as with the inheritance tax) then it's wrong.
Don't get me wrong at all, I agree fully with paying taxes and have refused to do business with places that cheat on taxes (man I miss that place sometimes, great prices on used hardware).
The only purpose of the government is, as a group, do what can't be done by an individual. I can't build a road, raise an army or administer justice (tho I've been tempted before). These are good things, and they do in fact cost money. Lots of money. But, there is so much waste and [Federal|state|local] jobs that really have no purpose other than to keep the position they are in. The people of this nation are over taxed (and there are way too many laws, but that's a different can of worms).
Every poor dipshit in my state votes republican then bitches when we get less money from the federal government. Morons.
I find that most of the Republician party to be above average in income, usually because they want to keep the money they earn, rather than give it to someone who didn't. You might feel differently about a 400 million tax cut if you had enough money to invest.
The funny thing, in my state, both smart dems voted republician last election.
Odd thing is - I worked for volt for 18 months on a single contract. Nothing about competing every came up, not once. They were really good to me, maybe the legal paperwork is different for each contract, or is different now than it was back in 99 when I got hired on full time at the place they placed me.
Well, your "most people" who think they're going to "arrive" are just deluding themselves. Do you make less than $300,000/year? You're NOT rich. You're not likely to become rich, either. Unless you're waiting for Uncle moneybags to die, waiting to get that $3 million/year contract from (insert sports team here), or have incriminating evidence on your boss/board of directors.
Yeah, that's right - no one can make it in the world today. There are no smart people left in the world and we all need to rely on Uncle to take care of us.
It's like when the Republicans were going around calling the inheritance tax, the (cue spooky music) "Death Tax."
Yeah, that sounds about right. Someone dies, and the government wants money. Sounds like a "Death Tax" to me.
Lots of people were against it, naturally. Of course, unless they inherited a quarter million dollars, or more, they wouldn't get hit by it.
So $250k that what anymore? A house, half of a house? Your [uncle|father|brother|misc] can't leave you a house with out the government getting a chunk of it?
[liberal whining cut] inherit a ton of money (that should rightly be taxed).
How the hell do you figure that inheritance should be taxed? I'm going to say this slow so you'll understand.... *It's* *already* *had* *it's* *taxes* *paid* *on* *it*. It's this kind of thinking that has put the country in the shape it's in. We already pay *WAY* too much in taxes. Makes me kind of sick really.
Running Linux on XBOX violates Microsoft's IP rights and they should prosecute everyone who attempts it.
I think the idea here is that once you own something, it's yours. You can use it for it's intended purpose (playing games), use it as a book end, if you can find a way to have sex with it, by all means - do so. Take it apart, mod the hell out of it, no problem.
However, there is a grey area here. The mod chips might be an IP voilation. This is what old MS wants to crack down on, not the person who wants to put linux on their machine.
As long as we're feeding the AC trolls, might as well throw in that I really kinda like my X-Box, but I do wish it had more games for kids. Last summer, we were in best buy looking for some stuff and I let the play with the game cube. Took each of them (ages 5-9) about 10 seconds to start playing the game. I've never seen something like that on Xbox. Course... I remember when it was cool to have 2 "Fire" buttons on a joystick.
...until it gets stuck in a fence or run over on the interstate.
Let's see. Secure job as a social worker. Check. Father in Iraq so that somebody needs to be the man around the house. Check. Sister is home from college waiting for her summer job teaching at a camp to start, check. Oh, hey look, I'm supporting my damn family, also check.
Hey man, good for you - it's nice to see families sticking together these days. When you get your new box, you might consider locking down your old one so your sister can use it without her destroying the OS by acciedently installing this crap.
It's amazing when someone brings me a box to fix because "it just doesn't work right" the thing is usually filled with spywear and works tons better after running ad aware (or the like).