MP3? I thought Ubuntu asked if you wanted that and then enabled the repository for you...and whats wrong with the fonts? But I am surprised no one gave a rebuttal: I just installed windows on my computer, it didnt find drivers...so off I go in search of drivers, reboot, install reboot, install. Oh wait I didn't have a firewall, so now I have viruses and bots. Reinstall, make sure I am behind a firewall, download and install drivers, reboot, reboot, reboot. Another hour wasted. I go to play a mpeg2, and windows media offers to find the codec. Of course it cant, so now I spend an hour researching how to get codecs and then realize I need to configure media player to not send information home, and then decide to get another video player. Research that for an hour, reboot. Now I need to decide on a decent antivirus software, spend time researching that, and install, reboot, update. Then I need to write a letter. Oh, I dont have a word processor? Open Office, ok, so download that and install maybe a reboot for good measure. Oh whats that, I should defrag the harddrive now? WTF is that? Ok so I do that, and its slow. Go to device manager, check to make sure DMA is enabled on the drive. Finish defrag, and now how many hours have gone by?
And thats why Windows isnt cutting it on the desktop. I have had the same Linux distro on 2 computers for over 3 years and updating through Debian testing. No defrag, no antivirus, no nagging from vendor software, and it just works.
Gnome has a lot LESS to offer. I tried gnome once...You have to click twice to open a file? WTF you want carpal tunnel? So you want a bar on the top with 3 items like Ubuntu Configured Gnome? No problem with KDE, just set it up. KDE doesnt have to look like OpenSuse, and Gnome doesnt have to look like Ubuntu, but KDE gives you greater flexibility and more contextual menus then Gnome, along with their awesome KIOSLAVES (well with KDE 3.x anyways). BTW you can double click in KDE and Single click in Gnome, if you want to.
I dont know what it is about OO either. I find it just easier to work with. Not in the finding buttons to do things I want, but just to sit and type on, particularly the linux version.
Aside from that, I switched to OO when I was grant writing, it managed a project better then MS Office and the integration with the Spreadsheet was better then Excel and Word. Go figure.
Your sig says alot: "The Internet I read it for the Articles", without out reading too much into that, I would assume that buying DVDs is old hat, you can have instant content anywhere: TV, Internet, Netflix, etc. With so much available, it would stand to reason that there is little need to buy something for later, when you can get what you want RIGHT NOW. There is plenty of supply to meet your demand, no need to save for later.
Well said. Add to your list the effectiveness of these vaccines and I think an intelligent person can rule out many of them right off the bat. It wasnt until people started questioning vaccinations that the use of mercury as a preservative was challenged enough to stop using it. Thats right, mercury injected in your children. Makes you want to pay a little more attention when someone tells you its safe and effective.
Odd that maganatune isnt getting more responses. It is available via Amarok as well as online, and using the Amarok interface gives you an iTunes sort of functionality without the money unless you want to pay.
I hope more people find them, they have been around a long time and the scheme of "pay what you think its worth" with most going to the artist is just awesome.
Seriously, who doesnt have all the Zep songs in MP3 by this point already if they like them? I dont get this concept of downloading bands that have been purchased over and over and over again in the past. If I didnt have the MP3's I could get them in short order from rip of my cd, or a library, or have em dropped off on my server by a friend, or turn on any classic radio station for more then 20 minutes.
I was a big fan, I even have hours of boots, back when that was interesting, and I still like them, but think about it, even 20 years ago (1987) you didnt have to buy an album or cassette because someones big brother or friend would give you one. They were very common during the transition to cd. And about 8 years after that I think you could pick up a cd in the $2 used bin.
It would be interesting to see you continue this test. How about Opera, Konq or Safari? I would be most interested in seeing how different OS's perform with different browsers. Whats also interesting is that you should be able to do that with a p2-400 and 128 megs ram. Jeez.
I just cant see it, I use Gnome on the Laptop, and KDE on my desktop, and Gnome is... well... weak. It takes longer to load, doesnt do hardly a damn thing compared to the interactiveness of KDE apps, or the right click context menus, or fish, and so on, that it drives me nuts. It is a bit more organized, possibly more stable (I run unstable repo's so I cant really compare, but I would say that Gnome does seem to work). Appears nice looking, but in the details its sorely lacking and doesnt tell me a damn thing about files, dates, metadata, and so on. In the end Gnome is like OLPC and thats why its on the laptop. When I have work to do, KDE has the tools (and tricks) to get the job done.
Education maybe, like get away from windows as soon as possible? Obviously. But your second statement is very worrying: I dont want my ISP to give me any software or cut access, and I dont what them thinking that way at all. They already try and force me to use their crapware. No thanks.
if you want to cut something from gnumeric and past it into OOo writer, it's not going to work
Yeah, that works fine, what are you talking about? It even pastes as tables. What was your point?
Its funny you should say that about linux discussions: During the Mepis installer, tips appear during the install. One of them is NOT to read about how to fix your particular linux install because much of what is out there is outdated and doesnt apply.
I ran a business with Linux. It worked great. I think what you mean to say is: lets get businesses away from thinking they need a certain brand of accounting software. I had the stuff that is supposed to make the world go round, and later found out that there was a lot of shaky ground in continuing dependence on it. Soon I had made my own using other Linux ready "business software" that did not involve programming and it worked great. If my accountant demanded I use that "branded software" I simply said I would go elsewhere, because that meant they were simply making me do all the work anyways.
There are free and pay linux accounting packages BTW. And just what would this other business software be?
Debian and Ubuntu don't even get a mention on what they DO use? This article makes it sound like RPM is THE package management system. Give me a break, at least a mention that a similar package approach (and more successful IMHO) is used by the Debian etc.
How in the hell you got modded insightful is beyond me. Look, for windows: 1. Search the internet for a program that does what you want. 2. Read some reviews and see if its a legit program, and not some crappy ad-ware/botware. 3. do you want to pay for this program? A decision must by made here. 4. Download the program 5. Run spyware and antivirus software on it 6. Click install.exe 7. accept EULA 8. Choose if you are installing this for all users or your self 8. hope and pray that it doesn't affect other programs or change extensions 9. Use it, and if you dont like it: 9b. uninstall it and hope and pray you dont have to clean up after it.
However with Linux, if you know the package you want you could do a command line apt-get install foo OR You can open your package manager (synaptic in my case) and do a search for "search" and read the desriptions of the package, such as beagle, and click on it to install. DONE. Removal is just as easy.
Thats why windows is a pain in the ass, and Linux is just easy. So dont spread FUD. The average linux user gets used to speeding things up, and learns a few shortcuts, like the command line if they are so inclined.
Wow do I look stupid. Your right. I was thinking about the O'Reilly Python book that you can clearly see sitting in the frame during the discussion of the animation. The interface looked surprisingly familiar, Blender. A search of Blender and Monster House gave results, but it was do to Elephants Dream. I wasn't paying attention and associated the two. Ah well, thanks for clearing that up.
Did you happen to see monster house? I watched the extras from the DVD the other day. They are using Blender. If a major motion picture, with a highly sophisticated 3d and person effects uses it, why isnt it good enough for us?
They used a cool trick too, they made the camera seem more realistic by using a hand held camera device to aim the camera that was viewing the rendered screens, making it seem more like a real director.
Unfortunatly it may be easier to use word, and have some nice features to do what word is good at, but that isnt very much. Shame really. A word processor does about the same as a food processor: quick and messy. (Yes I stole that, well at least the gist of it). Too bad we are stuck with something so poor for really writing documents and being productive, but that never is the real reason we use this stuff. No matter what you learn it takes time, but this is just a little step to making it easier to use a tool that really isnt good for much more then writing a letter. There are programs out there that work with the user and do the computers task of dealing with all the other tasks, but not many people are exposed to them.
BTW: Will word EVER be able to display a font in the font chooser that looks like it will when printed?
Wow, I didnt believe anyone loved their cable company. I hate mine, I will switch back off it as soon as the introductory rate expires. Aside from the fact that they charge WAY too much, why do I have to see commercials on a pay system???
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MP3? I thought Ubuntu asked if you wanted that and then enabled the repository for you...and whats wrong with the fonts?
But I am surprised no one gave a rebuttal: I just installed windows on my computer, it didnt find drivers...so off I go in search of drivers, reboot, install reboot, install. Oh wait I didn't have a firewall, so now I have viruses and bots. Reinstall, make sure I am behind a firewall, download and install drivers, reboot, reboot, reboot. Another hour wasted. I go to play a mpeg2, and windows media offers to find the codec. Of course it cant, so now I spend an hour researching how to get codecs and then realize I need to configure media player to not send information home, and then decide to get another video player. Research that for an hour, reboot. Now I need to decide on a decent antivirus software, spend time researching that, and install, reboot, update. Then I need to write a letter. Oh, I dont have a word processor? Open Office, ok, so download that and install maybe a reboot for good measure. Oh whats that, I should defrag the harddrive now? WTF is that? Ok so I do that, and its slow. Go to device manager, check to make sure DMA is enabled on the drive. Finish defrag, and now how many hours have gone by?
And thats why Windows isnt cutting it on the desktop.
I have had the same Linux distro on 2 computers for over 3 years and updating through Debian testing. No defrag, no antivirus, no nagging from vendor software, and it just works.
Gnome has a lot LESS to offer. I tried gnome once...You have to click twice to open a file? WTF you want carpal tunnel? So you want a bar on the top with 3 items like Ubuntu Configured Gnome? No problem with KDE, just set it up. KDE doesnt have to look like OpenSuse, and Gnome doesnt have to look like Ubuntu, but KDE gives you greater flexibility and more contextual menus then Gnome, along with their awesome KIOSLAVES (well with KDE 3.x anyways). BTW you can double click in KDE and Single click in Gnome, if you want to.
I dont know what it is about OO either. I find it just easier to work with. Not in the finding buttons to do things I want, but just to sit and type on, particularly the linux version.
Aside from that, I switched to OO when I was grant writing, it managed a project better then MS Office and the integration with the Spreadsheet was better then Excel and Word. Go figure.
Your sig says alot: "The Internet I read it for the Articles", without out reading too much into that, I would assume that buying DVDs is old hat, you can have instant content anywhere: TV, Internet, Netflix, etc. With so much available, it would stand to reason that there is little need to buy something for later, when you can get what you want RIGHT NOW. There is plenty of supply to meet your demand, no need to save for later.
Well said. Add to your list the effectiveness of these vaccines and I think an intelligent person can rule out many of them right off the bat. It wasnt until people started questioning vaccinations that the use of mercury as a preservative was challenged enough to stop using it. Thats right, mercury injected in your children. Makes you want to pay a little more attention when someone tells you its safe and effective.
SO says Netcraft. Apache/1.3.34 (Debian) mod_python/2.7.11 Python/2.4.4c0 mod_ssl/2.8.25 OpenSSL/0.9.8c
If i could only mod you up. Let me elaborate: The jury can let someone go free, even when they broke the law, IF they feel the law is unjust.
Odd that maganatune isnt getting more responses. It is available via Amarok as well as online, and using the Amarok interface gives you an iTunes sort of functionality without the money unless you want to pay. I hope more people find them, they have been around a long time and the scheme of "pay what you think its worth" with most going to the artist is just awesome.
And how about this cloud? http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2208888,00.asp
"VOLTA just blows AJAX out of the water" and strands anyone non MS on an island I suppose....
Seriously, who doesnt have all the Zep songs in MP3 by this point already if they like them? I dont get this concept of downloading bands that have been purchased over and over and over again in the past. If I didnt have the MP3's I could get them in short order from rip of my cd, or a library, or have em dropped off on my server by a friend, or turn on any classic radio station for more then 20 minutes.
I was a big fan, I even have hours of boots, back when that was interesting, and I still like them, but think about it, even 20 years ago (1987) you didnt have to buy an album or cassette because someones big brother or friend would give you one. They were very common during the transition to cd. And about 8 years after that I think you could pick up a cd in the $2 used bin.
Modded as insightful??? Funny, yes, insightful... you've got to be kidding me.
Hasn't at least ONE person here ever read Lessig's book The future of ideas?
Give Mepis a shot too, Ubuntu always ends up annoying me in the long run. You might like it.
It would be interesting to see you continue this test. How about Opera, Konq or Safari? I would be most interested in seeing how different OS's perform with different browsers. Whats also interesting is that you should be able to do that with a p2-400 and 128 megs ram. Jeez.
I just cant see it, I use Gnome on the Laptop, and KDE on my desktop, and Gnome is... well... weak. It takes longer to load, doesnt do hardly a damn thing compared to the interactiveness of KDE apps, or the right click context menus, or fish, and so on, that it drives me nuts. It is a bit more organized, possibly more stable (I run unstable repo's so I cant really compare, but I would say that Gnome does seem to work). Appears nice looking, but in the details its sorely lacking and doesnt tell me a damn thing about files, dates, metadata, and so on. In the end Gnome is like OLPC and thats why its on the laptop. When I have work to do, KDE has the tools (and tricks) to get the job done.
Education maybe, like get away from windows as soon as possible? Obviously. But your second statement is very worrying: I dont want my ISP to give me any software or cut access, and I dont what them thinking that way at all. They already try and force me to use their crapware. No thanks.
Yeah, that works fine, what are you talking about? It even pastes as tables. What was your point?
Its funny you should say that about linux discussions: During the Mepis installer, tips appear during the install. One of them is NOT to read about how to fix your particular linux install because much of what is out there is outdated and doesnt apply.
I ran a business with Linux. It worked great. I think what you mean to say is: lets get businesses away from thinking they need a certain brand of accounting software. I had the stuff that is supposed to make the world go round, and later found out that there was a lot of shaky ground in continuing dependence on it. Soon I had made my own using other Linux ready "business software" that did not involve programming and it worked great. If my accountant demanded I use that "branded software" I simply said I would go elsewhere, because that meant they were simply making me do all the work anyways.
There are free and pay linux accounting packages BTW. And just what would this other business software be?
Debian and Ubuntu don't even get a mention on what they DO use? This article makes it sound like RPM is THE package management system. Give me a break, at least a mention that a similar package approach (and more successful IMHO) is used by the Debian etc.
What browser? Dont you have a kpdf or xpdf ready to read it???? DUH
How in the hell you got modded insightful is beyond me.
Look, for windows:
1. Search the internet for a program that does what you want.
2. Read some reviews and see if its a legit program, and not some crappy ad-ware/botware.
3. do you want to pay for this program? A decision must by made here.
4. Download the program
5. Run spyware and antivirus software on it
6. Click install.exe
7. accept EULA
8. Choose if you are installing this for all users or your self
8. hope and pray that it doesn't affect other programs or change extensions
9. Use it, and if you dont like it:
9b. uninstall it and hope and pray you dont have to clean up after it.
However with Linux, if you know the package you want you could do a command line apt-get install foo
OR
You can open your package manager (synaptic in my case) and do a search for "search" and read the desriptions of the package, such as beagle, and click on it to install. DONE. Removal is just as easy.
Thats why windows is a pain in the ass, and Linux is just easy.
So dont spread FUD. The average linux user gets used to speeding things up, and learns a few shortcuts, like the command line if they are so inclined.
Wow do I look stupid. Your right. I was thinking about the O'Reilly Python book that you can clearly see sitting in the frame during the discussion of the animation. The interface looked surprisingly familiar, Blender. A search of Blender and Monster House gave results, but it was do to Elephants Dream. I wasn't paying attention and associated the two. Ah well, thanks for clearing that up.
Did you happen to see monster house? I watched the extras from the DVD the other day. They are using Blender. If a major motion picture, with a highly sophisticated 3d and person effects uses it, why isnt it good enough for us?
They used a cool trick too, they made the camera seem more realistic by using a hand held camera device to aim the camera that was viewing the rendered screens, making it seem more like a real director.
Unfortunatly it may be easier to use word, and have some nice features to do what word is good at, but that isnt very much. Shame really. A word processor does about the same as a food processor: quick and messy. (Yes I stole that, well at least the gist of it). Too bad we are stuck with something so poor for really writing documents and being productive, but that never is the real reason we use this stuff. No matter what you learn it takes time, but this is just a little step to making it easier to use a tool that really isnt good for much more then writing a letter. There are programs out there that work with the user and do the computers task of dealing with all the other tasks, but not many people are exposed to them.
BTW: Will word EVER be able to display a font in the font chooser that looks like it will when printed?
Wow, I didnt believe anyone loved their cable company. I hate mine, I will switch back off it as soon as the introductory rate expires. Aside from the fact that they charge WAY too much, why do I have to see commercials on a pay system???