Unfortunately too many adults take this opportunity away from their children by exposing them to the violence and stupidities of humanity WAY TOO EARLY. Yes the violence and stupidity of humanity is real, and out there in the world, and it always has been...
What's the damn rush to expose children to it?
(And I'm still pissed off at the idiot parents who brought their toddler to the Planet of the Apes remake at 10:00 pm.)
...what executive in their right mind would support a law requiring their corporation to pay $50 per office with large monitor and two comfy chairs?!?.
(Nevermind that the monitor and the chairs cost way more...)
Thanks to all that clued so many of us in to the fact that it was satire.
Quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MPAA were to try this.
My threshold of disbelief at what the Entertainment Industry would try to do to make money is WAY LOW.
I for one welcome our new operating system overlords... oh, wait!..... That's right they already are overlords!
It could simply be that this guarantees Microsoft some revenue from Linux via Novell, and gives Novell some lift up to the acceptance level Red Hat already has.
On the other hand, for those of us trying to get away from Microsoft, this hurts Novell, since now I am definitely NOT going to use Suse in the enterprise...
(...unless of course they have the only Linux version of a solution to something.)
If Novell really wanted to help their marketshare, they should deeply discount the use of Suse as a replacement for all the old Novell OS licenses that are out in the world. I would have used Suse had they done that. I've got a whole stack of useless old Novell licenses in the closet!
But until then, Red Hat's the OS for my enterprise servers.
Good. Now that they've invented the firewall, MAYBE they'll share this newfound knowledge with other parts of the US gov't, AND they all can start securing their networks.
It is no wonder Washington has been pressuring London to send that poor guy over here so they could ruin his life. I mean if they didn't know firewalls existed, they probably don't know what a non-blank password is either!
My suggestion is TEST IT yourself, to help you make your decision on how to do it.
But know you need to answer the following at least first:
What kind of server are you going to run? Windows TS, Citrix, or Linux?
If you're a Windows Admin who knows user management, Active Directory, and GPOs already, then the learning curve is shortest to the Windows TS. Citrix will mean learning it as a whole new server application. And Linux will mean knowing Linux and having apps that run on Linux.
What kind of thin client are you going to run? The thin client has to support connecting to the type of server you chose. Besides Linux thin clients, which by the way can connect to Windows TS using "rdesktop", and do so quite well, there are two kinds of Windows thin clients, CE and XP-embedded. OH, and just because you know Windows desktop OS's, don't think that immediately translates to knowing how to configure Windows thin clients, CE or XP-embedded. They are a wholly separate beasts.
And then you have to decide if you are going to centrally manage the images of the thin clients or not. You can configure them each individually, or you can set up a PXE server, and boot your thin clients from images you've prepared and stored there. I think some thin clients can be set to autoload their images from FTP or TFTP servers also. But centralized thin client management is a whole other project that you may not have the resources to implement and maintain.
As someone else on this thread mentioned, you have to know if the applications you want to run in this setup will run in the server/client configuration you choose. And the only way to know this, may be to try it. For example I'm currently implementing and ERP application, that won't run via the Windows CE thin clients, but will run via the Windows XP-embedded thin clients. (But I'm running them via Linux thin clients.)
Remember you can test your thin clients with the administrative TS that comes with every Windows server.
I'm using the HP t5525 Linux Thin Client with Windows Server 2003 R2 Terminal Services. This works great. I don't have time right now to deal with the central administration of images, so I spent a morning figuring out how I wanted to configure the t5525, and listed out instructions on how exactly to end up with the same config each time we need to configure one manually. Two of us set up a room of 10 of these, unpacking, hooking up, and configuring, and test connecting to Win TS in 40 minutes.
I tried a t7510. It would be a great "grandparent PC" for a grandparent with broadband who wanted to web-browse (and maybe get sued by RIAA by downloading music and videos to play in Windows Media Player). But it was too quirky and different from XP-desktop to know instantly how to configure/maintain it. And again, I didn't need all the crap it came pre-loaded with. This is supposed to a "thin client" running apps on the TS, not a "thin client" running apps on itself.
Anyways, the cost of the thin-clients is so low, you really ought to get a couple and try them yourself, before you commit to your grand solution.
The obvious solution is... Windows VISTA!
Heck the OS is so large any VMBR trying to "hoist" it is going to probably:
A.) Run out of space (memory or HDD).
B.) Take so long to hoist the OS, the user will probably reboot thinking their machine's locked up again.
C.) Cause CowboyNeal to acquire a hernia.
They (MS) are probably just looking for more selling points for their new BIG baby.
Spam telegrams would have cost money.
On the other hand, junk-snail-mail costs money, and cost doesn't seem to prevent that.
Hmm, what if email cost the sender money IF read, but the reader could easily and optionally refund the money back to the sender.
Didn't someone mention that idea using micropayments?
I guess we'd have regular SMTP servers, and pay-to-access SMTP (what would that be PMTP?) servers, and the PMTP servers could refuse to talk with the SMTP servers so as not to receive their spam.
Oh I'll just wait until Microsoft kills off spam.
(Which may or may not come before Duke Nukem Forever.)
The Linux claims stem from the fact that people take old hardware that is lying around, lying around because it has been abandoned and CAN'T run the latest Microsoft OS with office productivity suite, and see if they can get Linux to run on it.
I have a whole IT dept closet full of abandoned PC's, 486's, Pentiums, PII's that I WILL NOT TRY to run Windows XP SP2 and MS Office 2003 on, because it WILL NOT be usable after I spend what would probably be 6 hours getting everything installed.
Now take a PII Laptop with 96 MB of memory...
Remember per Microsoft's specs and experience, that's not enough for XP with Office 2003.
But try loading the latest Suse Linux 10.0 with OpenOffice, and guess what... it didn't take 6 hours to install... only 1.5 hours, and it works and it is usable.
(Although it is below what Novell recommends, now that I just looked...
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/sysreqs.h tml )
The fact is I can take some current Linux distro, and a current OpenOfice distro and make a legacy computer productively usable. This is because Linux and OpenOffice are open and people can do this and make their results available for others to use. And the OpenOffice installation can be included and done at the same time as the OS installation.
The fact also is that Windows is NOT open. I can not prepare simplified installations and share them. Each license owner has to do that themselves. No one can tweak and recompile the OS or the Office product to make it usable on older hardware. Its closed and up to the marketing whims of Microsoft to decide what Windows can and can not do...
Like Windows Vista... which will require 512 MB of memory, JUST FOR THE OS...
So the ODF opponents couldn't win their arguments to stick with MS formats, so instead they try restructuring the Government of MA??? This is just plum sick!
But besides, in the USA that wouldn't be "PC", it would have to be the "African-American Sea".
Oh wait, that's right, Bush hasn't taken over that part of the world yet, so just the "African Sea".
But then again, they're calling the 8m puddle an ocean, so how about the "Afican Ocean"!
Alas that brings us to the point that "everything good originated in Africa"...
So don't forget to rewrite the Geology books to make note that all the other oceans orignate from this new one!
And I suppose if it isn't considered too demeaning to refer to this 8m puddle as a "sea", we could call it "Kwanz Sea" after that great new holiday that predates all others!
You ought to develop your "Business-speak Bullshit"-o-meter into a Web 2.0 service based application!
Then we can just point RSS feeds or URLS through your meter to get a rating attached before they are fed/displayed to us. That way we can easily filter out the Web 2.0 crap using Web 2.0!
And this being FORCED is EXACTLY why corporations should wean themselves off of Microsoft. I certainly am going to try and convert my company away from Microsoft. Fortunately everytime they do one of these complete paradigm shifts, they toss business-reasons to give up the Microsoft software products right into our laps. Unfortunately most companies probably don't have someone who's been bitten one to many times by M$ to say "Hey, we don't need to keep doing this." and to add a cold dose of reality to counter the M$ marketing hounds that get unleashed everytime they do one of these overhauls.
Publicly Acknowledge the Wrong and Fire the Exec
on
Bad Day To Be Sony
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
Have they publicly acknowledged they did wrong? Have they fired the executive who approved this idiocy?
Sony will need to do this if they ever want my business, my family's business, or my employer's business again. And this includes EVERYTHING SONY.
Why should a corporation who does this to their customers, have customers?
From their site: "What is the Morfik Pioneers Program? The Morfik Pioneers Program is for technology visionaries, commentators and practitioners who see the current web as an embryonic form of a global operating system and the WebOS as major development in this process.... The Morfik Pioneers Program allows such enthusiastic individuals... to contribute to its evolution within this vision.... Pioneers will be able to influence the direction of Morfik's technology and to share insights about future directions for the web."
So: 1.) We're supposed to contribute to their for-profit-corporation out-of-the-geekness-of-our-hearts. 2.) And the whole current Internet is just in its infancy, and we're all going to "grow up" into this WebOS based on Javascript/AJAX using Morfik's products; seeing as they're the leader with the vision.
This is just another BIG-HEADED-CORP with no humility; lots of bark and little bite. I'll wait for version 2 or 3.
Slashdot Mirror
Google's...? Microsoft's...? And the requisite overly-ambitious OS project added to SourceForge? Just wondering...
You get to be an innocent child ONCE!
Unfortunately too many adults take this opportunity away from their children by exposing them to the violence and stupidities of humanity WAY TOO EARLY. Yes the violence and stupidity of humanity is real, and out there in the world, and it always has been...
What's the damn rush to expose children to it?
(And I'm still pissed off at the idiot parents who brought their toddler to the Planet of the Apes remake at 10:00 pm.)
"What would MacGyver do?"
Exactly!
...what executive in their right mind would support a law requiring their corporation to pay $50 per office with large monitor and two comfy chairs?!?.
(Nevermind that the monitor and the chairs cost way more...)
Thanks to all that clued so many of us in to the fact that it was satire.
Quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MPAA were to try this.
My threshold of disbelief at what the Entertainment Industry would try to do to make money is WAY LOW.
Or will it be "Suse Enterprise 11, with Windows Server compatibility" ??
I for one welcome our new operating system overlords... oh, wait! ..... That's right they already are overlords!
It could simply be that this guarantees Microsoft some revenue from Linux via Novell, and gives Novell some lift up to the acceptance level Red Hat already has.
On the other hand, for those of us trying to get away from Microsoft, this hurts Novell, since now I am definitely NOT going to use Suse in the enterprise...
(...unless of course they have the only Linux version of a solution to something.)
If Novell really wanted to help their marketshare, they should deeply discount the use of Suse as a replacement for all the old Novell OS licenses that are out in the world. I would have used Suse had they done that. I've got a whole stack of useless old Novell licenses in the closet!
But until then, Red Hat's the OS for my enterprise servers.
Good. Now that they've invented the firewall, MAYBE they'll share this newfound knowledge with other parts of the US gov't, AND they all can start securing their networks.
It is no wonder Washington has been pressuring London to send that poor guy over here so they could ruin his life. I mean if they didn't know firewalls existed, they probably don't know what a non-blank password is either!
Well that would fit with their EULA's which all effectively state:
You pay us to use our software under license, and we don't promise you a thing.
And isn't that the kind of business relationship Bill has always entered into from the beginning?
Microsoft gets a lot, and you get a little something if you're lucky.
Don't we already have that?
You know... that thing called "Flash Player"...
My suggestion is TEST IT yourself, to help you make your decision on how to do it.
5 4-321959-89307-338927-89307.html/
There are plenty of others.
But know you need to answer the following at least first:
What kind of server are you going to run? Windows TS, Citrix, or Linux? If you're a Windows Admin who knows user management, Active Directory, and GPOs already, then the learning curve is shortest to the Windows TS. Citrix will mean learning it as a whole new server application. And Linux will mean knowing Linux and having apps that run on Linux.
What kind of thin client are you going to run? The thin client has to support connecting to the type of server you chose. Besides Linux thin clients, which by the way can connect to Windows TS using "rdesktop", and do so quite well, there are two kinds of Windows thin clients, CE and XP-embedded. OH, and just because you know Windows desktop OS's, don't think that immediately translates to knowing how to configure Windows thin clients, CE or XP-embedded. They are a wholly separate beasts.
And then you have to decide if you are going to centrally manage the images of the thin clients or not. You can configure them each individually, or you can set up a PXE server, and boot your thin clients from images you've prepared and stored there. I think some thin clients can be set to autoload their images from FTP or TFTP servers also. But centralized thin client management is a whole other project that you may not have the resources to implement and maintain.
As someone else on this thread mentioned, you have to know if the applications you want to run in this setup will run in the server/client configuration you choose. And the only way to know this, may be to try it. For example I'm currently implementing and ERP application, that won't run via the Windows CE thin clients, but will run via the Windows XP-embedded thin clients. (But I'm running them via Linux thin clients.)
Remember you can test your thin clients with the administrative TS that comes with every Windows server.
Here you'll find examples here of some decent thin clients:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/124
I'm using the HP t5525 Linux Thin Client with Windows Server 2003 R2 Terminal Services. This works great. I don't have time right now to deal with the central administration of images, so I spent a morning figuring out how I wanted to configure the t5525, and listed out instructions on how exactly to end up with the same config each time we need to configure one manually. Two of us set up a room of 10 of these, unpacking, hooking up, and configuring, and test connecting to Win TS in 40 minutes.
I tried a t7510. It would be a great "grandparent PC" for a grandparent with broadband who wanted to web-browse (and maybe get sued by RIAA by downloading music and videos to play in Windows Media Player). But it was too quirky and different from XP-desktop to know instantly how to configure/maintain it. And again, I didn't need all the crap it came pre-loaded with. This is supposed to a "thin client" running apps on the TS, not a "thin client" running apps on itself.
Anyways, the cost of the thin-clients is so low, you really ought to get a couple and try them yourself, before you commit to your grand solution.
The obvious solution is... Windows VISTA!
Heck the OS is so large any VMBR trying to "hoist" it is going to probably:
A.) Run out of space (memory or HDD).
B.) Take so long to hoist the OS, the user will probably reboot thinking their machine's locked up again.
C.) Cause CowboyNeal to acquire a hernia.
They (MS) are probably just looking for more selling points for their new BIG baby.
Spam telegrams would have cost money.
On the other hand, junk-snail-mail costs money, and cost doesn't seem to prevent that.
Hmm, what if email cost the sender money IF read, but the reader could easily and optionally refund the money back to the sender.
Didn't someone mention that idea using micropayments?
I guess we'd have regular SMTP servers, and pay-to-access SMTP (what would that be PMTP?) servers, and the PMTP servers could refuse to talk with the SMTP servers so as not to receive their spam.
Oh I'll just wait until Microsoft kills off spam.
(Which may or may not come before Duke Nukem Forever.)
Well it takes CowboyNeal a while to type in all those telegrams we send him.
The Linux claims stem from the fact that people take old hardware that is lying around, lying around because it has been abandoned and CAN'T run the latest Microsoft OS with office productivity suite, and see if they can get Linux to run on it.
/ sysreqs.mspx / standreq.mspx l uate/hardware/vistarpc.mspx
h tml )
I have a whole IT dept closet full of abandoned PC's, 486's, Pentiums, PII's that I WILL NOT TRY to run Windows XP SP2 and MS Office 2003 on, because it WILL NOT be usable after I spend what would probably be 6 hours getting everything installed.
I WILL NOT TRY it ALSO BECAUSE that hardware is WAY BELOW MICROSOFT's OWN DOCUMENTED HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS for WinXP. Now if I wanted to run Windows 3.1, or Windows 9.x, then yes it would be fine, but Microsoft doesn't SUPPORT those OS's anymore. They were abandoned, just like Windows XP will be abandoned when Windows Vista comes out. Not to mention there's NO WAY WinVista will run on that stuff, since it needs 512 MB JUST FOR THE OS!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/eva
Now take a PII Laptop with 96 MB of memory...
Remember per Microsoft's specs and experience, that's not enough for XP with Office 2003. But try loading the latest Suse Linux 10.0 with OpenOffice, and guess what... it didn't take 6 hours to install... only 1.5 hours, and it works and it is usable.
(Although it is below what Novell recommends, now that I just looked... http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/sysreqs.
The fact is I can take some current Linux distro, and a current OpenOfice distro and make a legacy computer productively usable. This is because Linux and OpenOffice are open and people can do this and make their results available for others to use. And the OpenOffice installation can be included and done at the same time as the OS installation.
The fact also is that Windows is NOT open. I can not prepare simplified installations and share them. Each license owner has to do that themselves. No one can tweak and recompile the OS or the Office product to make it usable on older hardware. Its closed and up to the marketing whims of Microsoft to decide what Windows can and can not do...
Like Windows Vista... which will require 512 MB of memory, JUST FOR THE OS...
Ahh once again Christians will have to worship in the catacombs...
No, make that browse the Internet with legacy hardware running Linux!
(While Windows with its "Trusted Computing" services keeps everyone else in-line with this TPM chip.)
So the ODF opponents couldn't win their arguments to stick with MS formats, so instead they try restructuring the Government of MA??? This is just plum sick!
Well we've got that already!
But besides, in the USA that wouldn't be "PC", it would have to be the "African-American Sea".
Oh wait, that's right, Bush hasn't taken over that part of the world yet, so just the "African Sea".
But then again, they're calling the 8m puddle an ocean, so how about the "Afican Ocean"!
Alas that brings us to the point that "everything good originated in Africa"...
So don't forget to rewrite the Geology books to make note that all the other oceans orignate from this new one!
And I suppose if it isn't considered too demeaning to refer to this 8m puddle as a "sea", we could call it "Kwanz Sea" after that great new holiday that predates all others!
You ought to develop your "Business-speak Bullshit"-o-meter into a Web 2.0 service based application!
Then we can just point RSS feeds or URLS through your meter to get a rating attached before they are fed/displayed to us. That way we can easily filter out the Web 2.0 crap using Web 2.0!
Slashdot's the only website I go to!
:)
(Oh yeah... the links, and the ads...)
(Oh and those other 3 news websites...)
(And...
FYI: MontaVista is what NetGear uses in the WG302 Wireless Access Point
A model... a year... WHAT WAS THE POINT!
...its been done!n dyCarl/aboutArtist.htm
...its been done!
...its been done!: www.barenada.com/blog_general_entry.shtml%3Fentryi d%3D002518+a+year+wasted&hl=en
So you can mold paper fiber into shapes and let it dry and harden!
http://www.spiritsinthewindgallery.com/Artists/ba
So you can mold some material into the shape of a V8 to see how it works!
http://www.discoverthis.com/visible-v8.html
So you want to waste a year of your life!
http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/144778-ebook.htm
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:5UK_N1qe_nIJ
and me reading this! http://slashdot.org/
I would have been more impressed if they mashed tomatoes and cast them into fluid-functioning V8!
OH WAIT... that's been done!
http://www.v8juice.com/
And this being FORCED is EXACTLY why corporations should wean themselves off of Microsoft.
I certainly am going to try and convert my company away from Microsoft.
Fortunately everytime they do one of these complete paradigm shifts, they toss business-reasons to give up the Microsoft software products right into our laps.
Unfortunately most companies probably don't have someone who's been bitten one to many times by M$ to say "Hey, we don't need to keep doing this." and to add a cold dose of reality to counter the M$ marketing hounds that get unleashed everytime they do one of these overhauls.
Have they publicly acknowledged they did wrong?
Have they fired the executive who approved this idiocy?
Sony will need to do this if they ever want my business, my family's business, or my employer's business again. And this includes EVERYTHING SONY.
Why should a corporation who does this to their customers, have customers?
From their site: ... ... to contribute to its evolution within this vision. ... Pioneers will be able to influence the direction of Morfik's technology and to share insights about future directions for the web."
"What is the Morfik Pioneers Program?
The Morfik Pioneers Program is for technology visionaries, commentators and practitioners who see the current web as an embryonic form of a global operating system and the WebOS as major development in this process.
The Morfik Pioneers Program allows such enthusiastic individuals
So:
1.) We're supposed to contribute to their for-profit-corporation out-of-the-geekness-of-our-hearts.
2.) And the whole current Internet is just in its infancy, and we're all going to "grow up" into this WebOS based on Javascript/AJAX using Morfik's products; seeing as they're the leader with the vision.
This is just another BIG-HEADED-CORP with no humility; lots of bark and little bite.
I'll wait for version 2 or 3.