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Functional Paper V8 Engine

glitch0 writes "This V8 Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.), is fully functional. It features many moving parts which include "a compound crankshaft, a rapid cooling fan, 8 rods, 8 pistons and a complex compound gearbox etc." The engine is powered by 2×1.5V D Batteries and weighs 2.98kg. From start to finish this model took one year to design and construct. There is even a D.I.Y. kit in the works that will be released shortly at the price of $85 USD. What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?"

198 comments

  1. Riiiight by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A model is NOT a functional engine.

    1. Re:Riiiight by Varun+Soundararajan · · Score: 1

      will they make the microprocessor for the car also in paper?

    2. Re:Riiiight by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 2, Funny

      details . . . details . . . . :)

      Would you have read it if they reported on some geeks making a model?

    3. Re:Riiiight by syukton · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No.

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    4. Re:Riiiight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only on /. could the first post be redundant.

    5. Re:Riiiight by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 3, Funny

      Model? What, like "Weird Science"?

    6. Re:Riiiight by kfg · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Only on /. could the first post be redundant.

      And yet it happens often enough that your post is redundant.

      What a world, what a world!

      KFG

    7. Re:Riiiight by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Exactly.

      If you want to see really functional model V-8 engines that are not made from paper, check out these guys...

      http://www.baemclub.com/pages/photos2.html

      Awesome craftmanship.

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    8. Re:Riiiight by xs650 · · Score: 1

      Durn, amd here I thought he had an engine that was it's own fuel.

    9. Re:Riiiight by Aussie · · Score: 1

      http://www.baemclub.com/pages/photos2.html

      Awesome alright, any other info on the motors, maybe specs ?

    10. Re:Riiiight by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Pity the fucking link doesn't work ... just like the pretend engine, I guess.

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    11. Re:Riiiight by nasta · · Score: 1

      It's just paperware...

    12. Re:Riiiight by BlueHands · · Score: 1

      thank you mods for modding that post as redundant. Although, I think we already knew that.

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    13. Re:Riiiight by kfg · · Score: 1

      Oh, absolutely.

      KFG

    14. Re:Riiiight by ErroneousBee · · Score: 1
      A model is NOT a functional engine.

      So What?, the Trabant was not a functional car.

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    15. Re:Riiiight by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      A V8 is an engine design (or a class of engine designs), not a car.

    16. Re:Riiiight by __aamcgs2220 · · Score: 1

      Only a few people will probably understand the Trabant reference. Good one! It would need a 2-cycle paper engine to be complete, though.

    17. Re:Riiiight by Seng · · Score: 1

      Mark me down as one who remembers Trabie references ;) Only car I've seen with a MINIMUM occupancy requirement... One to push while the other steers (for going up hills) :)

    18. Re:Riiiight by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

      Those are nice, but check out these from Conley's ..

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    19. Re:Riiiight by SeventyBang · · Score: 1



      You mean the 3-cylinder engine which can't drive up a hill? "No one drives alone because they might encounter a hill?"

      (no, I didn't look it up and the only times I've been outside of the US have been to Canada - I just remember reading about it a long, long time ago - before I connected to the 'net about twenty years ago - in Time or Newsweek)

      Count me as someone who knows.


      I'm surprised no one has mentioned the working paper clock advertised in the back of science magazines for many years.


  2. Perfect! by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was looking for a way to get my paper dolls around town without having to drive them myself.

    1. Re:Perfect! by Tickle+Cricket · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know! With the way airlines are these days, they'll never have to set foot in a paper plane again!

    2. Re:Perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My gf wants to know what will happen with all these paper-people, paper-planes, and paper-engines when it rains? My gf wants to know (ok, i turn in my geek badge)

    3. Re:Perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder, how much miles per gallon-glue you will get out of that.

  3. UTSL by Quixote · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't click on the link above; it doesn't give any more information than what's in the submission. Go to the source and get more information there.

    1. Re:UTSL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was on Digg.com like 3 days ago...

  4. Next by SpinJaunt · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    1. Re:Next by Cheapy · · Score: 1

      Damn. I thought you meant some company makes paper beachware...

      I was gonna say that I needed to invest in some of those for some girl friends of mine...

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  5. Forget pistons.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This would have been waaay cooler if they used a rotary engine.

    1. Re:Forget pistons.... by kosmicki · · Score: 1

      Not nearly as impressive though, they have what, 4 moving parts?

  6. Smoking Turkeys by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 3, Funny

    I built a chimney coal starter out of paper this morning. It was fully functional, burned brightly, and lit the coals on fire!

    Crap.. I shoulda got some videos of it in action - then I too could of been posted on /.

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  7. Move over hydrogen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we power our cars with tomato juice!
    Mmmm. Renewable and delicious!

    1. Re:Move over hydrogen by bg_27 · · Score: 1

      "This V8 Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.)"

      Isnt a motor and an Engine the same thing, how can the engine not have a motor?! WTF?!

    2. Re:Move over hydrogen by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A motor is electric, an engine uses some other sort of fuel.

    3. Re:Move over hydrogen by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      What kind of fuel does a search engine run on?

    4. Re:Move over hydrogen by Aglassis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Strictly speaking a motor is a mechanical device that converts electrical energy into mechanical energy. Its converse is the generator which converts mechanical energy into electrical energy.

      An engine is a mechanical device that manipulates a thermodynamic variable (temperature, volume, pressure, or density) to result in an output of mechanical energy via a thermodynamic process. Hence, Brayton cycle engine, Rankine cycle engine, Otto cycle engine, etc.

      The efficiency of a motor is expected to be above 90%. The efficiency of an engine is expected to be below 40% (except some really exceptional Brayton cycle engines or some really extreme circumstances).

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    5. Re:Move over hydrogen by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 0

      So that's why we call the self-propelled cycles for "motorcycles" and why Detroit is known as "Motor City"? ;-)

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    6. Re:Move over hydrogen by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 3, Funny

      propoganda.

    7. Re:Move over hydrogen by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Questions.

    8. Re:Move over hydrogen by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

      Excellent explaination, my friend.

    9. Re:Move over hydrogen by evilviper · · Score: 1
      A motor is electric, an engine uses some other sort of fuel.

      Not true. The two are not used at all consistently.

      Another poster already mentioned the most common motorcycle, and motorcity. How about "motor cars", "General Motors", "Outboard motors", "Motor Oil", etc.?

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    10. Re:Move over hydrogen by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

      You think that all matters after spending your adult life driving in a parkway and parking in a driveway?

      Come on, just because it's popular doesn't make it right.

    11. Re:Move over hydrogen by Blastrogath · · Score: 1

      An engine can be almost any sort of device. Think about these: search engine, steam engine, difference engine, seige engine, cotton engine. Only one manipulates a thermodynamic variable (temperature, volume, pressure, or density) to result in an output of mechanical energy.

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  8. Rename it please by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we please rename this a "V8 Model Engine"... simply saying it's a "V8 Engine" makes one believe it is an actual, functional engine, which got me wondering how the heck they got combustion to work without having the whole thing literally go up in flames.

    1. Re:Rename it please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, and I can make a paper nuclear reactor, except that it runs on 'D' cell batteries instead of uranium. Same thing really.

    2. Re:Rename it please by rolandog · · Score: 1

      Yeah,... quite a misleading title. I watched one of the videos and laughed out loud. Its a working model, which is just to be used as a teaching aid. It wont provide the driving force of your vehicles.

      In other words: "Move along people, there's nothing to see here."

    3. Re:Rename it please by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, and I can make a paper nuclear reactor, except that it runs on 'D' cell batteries instead of uranium. Same thing really.

      I particularly loved this part: "This V8 Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor"...

      My car is entirely made out of paper, except for the car part of it.

    4. Re:Rename it please by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...which got me wondering how the heck they got combustion to work...

      Oh, combustion will work just fine. Once.

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    5. Re:Rename it please by aywwts4 · · Score: 1

      Heh, A slashdot joke that actualy made me chuckle.

      Kudos, mod parent up.

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    6. Re:Rename it please by SilverspurG · · Score: 1

      I came into the comments specifically to find out if anyone had made note of this.

      When I looked at the .movs for the engine I didn't see anything which wasn't made from paper. Especially the motor.

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    7. Re:Rename it please by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      When I looked at the .movs for the engine I didn't see anything which wasn't made from paper. Especially the motor.

      Maybe the electric motor is made out of paper, too? I mean dude, how hard could that be for a guy who can make a freakin' V-8 out of paper?

    8. Re:Rename it please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fsck, you mean you want a clear, non ambiguous and non misleading/sensacionalist title???

      You're really not from here, right...

    9. Re:Rename it please by SilverspurG · · Score: 1

      I saw that clue a little farther on in the comments. I think that was an editorial oversight on the part of the person who wrote the piece. It didn't even occur to me that the electric motor would be considered part of the engine. If anything it should've been called the starter.

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  9. That's nothing... by Private+Taco · · Score: 1

    ...I once built a paper airplane with two fully functional jet engines.

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  10. Functinal paper? by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks hard to wipe your ass with to me....

  11. Prior art by MSBob · · Score: 4, Informative
    [...] a fully functional car made out of paper?"

    Already been done.

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    1. Re:Prior art by BootNinja · · Score: 2, Funny

      naw, a fully functional car made out of weed would be much cooler. illegal pretty much everywhere, but cool

    2. Re:Prior art by the_other_one · · Score: 4, Informative
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    3. Re:Prior art by saifatlast · · Score: 0

      Clearly the person who modded this informative didn't actually bother to click the link.

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    4. Re:Prior art by tuite · · Score: 2, Informative

      The writer know what he is talking about. The old East Germany car Trabant was/is built of cellulose which is basicly the same thing as paper. It's a Trabant in the picture in the previous post.
      Link to wikipedia dealing with Trabant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant

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    5. Re:Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      But will it get 400 hectares to a tank of kerosene?

    6. Re:Prior art by ksheff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A friend of mine from Poland said that he saw someone tear their Trabant to pieces in a fit of rage. It helped that the car was beginning to rot.

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    7. Re:Prior art by The-Bus · · Score: 1
      What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?


      It actually has been done. When Japan joined the 2000 World's Fair in Hannover, Germany they had a huge huge focus on enviromentalism. Their pavillion was made mostly out of paper. And inside they had a car made out of washi which is Japanese paper. More info on all this can be found here and here.
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    8. Re:Prior art by fafaforza · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Once while crossing the Polish-German border, we were stopped for customs. It was just after rain and the road was made from cobbled stone. So very slippery.

      Inadvertantly, a Trabant slammed into the back of my family's Lada.

      Our Lada had a very shallow, barely noticable 3" dent.

      The Trabant was totaled. No, really. The whole front up to and including the windshield were beyond repair.

  12. It would be nice by billsoxs · · Score: 1

    if they used the original web site http://www.yeesjob.com/v8engine.htm

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  13. WTF? by StyxRiver · · Score: 5, Informative

    This V8 Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.) Wait wait wait! The engine is made entirely out of paper...except for the motor?!? Motor != Block. Engine == Motor. Damnit, man.

    1. Re:WTF? by wpiman · · Score: 1
      Yeah- that kind of jumped out at me too. I figured an engine and a motor were the same thing.

      I guess it is kind of like saying, we have a fully functional car that just doesn't move.

    2. Re:WTF? by Mahou · · Score: 1

      i think the motor is to turn the paper crankshaft which will pump the paper pistons making it look the the paper model engine is 'working'

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    3. Re:WTF? by billsoxs · · Score: 2, Informative

      Read the real article (http://www.yeesjob.com/v8engine.htm) and you will find out that the 'motor' is a little electric motor used to turn the paper model of a V8

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  14. Hey, by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    does that thing have a Hemi?

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  15. Internal Combustion by GentryDigital.com · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hrm... really makes me want to know how you could get an internal combustion chamber made of paper that doesn't burst into flames...

    Oh, and check out the real source of all that material for alot more detailed information.

    1. Re:Internal Combustion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeh what's with stories on slashdot just linking random blogs instead of the source? it's kinda annoying

    2. Re:Internal Combustion by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Hrm... really makes me want to know how you could get an internal combustion chamber made of paper that doesn't burst into flames...

      Use either water cooling or cold combustion ;).

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    3. Re:Internal Combustion by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1
      Hrm... really makes me want to know how you could get an internal combustion chamber made of paper that doesn't burst into flames...
      That's the point. It's self-fueling. They've invented the perpetual motion machine!

      Oh...wait.....
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    4. Re:Internal Combustion by n9hmg · · Score: 1

      When I first saw the headline, I assumed somebody had used carbon-fibre paper for the conductive parts, ceramic-fibre paper for the parts exposed to moving hot gas, and some very low-boom combustion mixture - maybe really-lean methane/air, at zero-compression, to make something that could actually turn itself with internal combustion, however inefficiently. It could certainly be done, though that in itself is the only reason to do it. I was disappointed to see the body of the post.
      How about a new post, headlined "Functional thermoplastic V8 engine, in production since the 1960s"?

  16. New definition of functional? by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't think a paper model of a combustion engine turned by an electric motor qualifies as a "Functional V8 Engine." But that's just me...

  17. MOD PARENT UP - original article is click troll by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    The posting links to an ad-supported blog that links to the actual content.

    When you get to the real site, it becomes clear that this is a project by someone who does paper models as a business and as an art. You don't get that impression at all from the "blog", which actually looks like something machine-generated by stealing copy from other sites.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP - original article is click troll by patio11 · · Score: 1
      The posting links to an ad-supported blog that links to the actual content...You don't get that impression at all from the "blog", which actually looks like something machine-generated by stealing copy from other sites.

      And this is distinguishable from Slashdot how, exactly? They only post the article once?

    2. Re:MOD PARENT UP - original article is click troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and I can't wait to get my hands on some of his "Origamic architecture!!

      Oh wait...

  18. thats so fckuing lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now theyre making fun of use building paper V8s

  19. Ideal for schools. by saskboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think something like this should be in many schools, or at least tour to schools, so that kids can see and understand the theory behind internal combustion engines. I knew until grade 10 that it had something to do with the gas exploding and pushing the piston to make something turn, but the details like the exhaust expulsion, fuel injection, and camshaft, etc, was lost on me until I saw it in pictures. Then for shop class, we tore down a two stroke engine.

    It would be great for budding engineers and mechanics who don't have a parent that routinely fixes their car engine at home like they did in the good ol' days, to see something like this.

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    1. Re:Ideal for schools. by Kasar · · Score: 1
      They've had clear plastic V-8 model engines for years also driven by an electric motor to show the movement.

      I don't think they even cost as much.

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    2. Re:Ideal for schools. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      I think something like this should be in many schools, or at least tour to schools, so that kids can see and understand the theory behind internal combustion engines.

      QED, AJAX (ex-DHTML) can illustrate this pretty effectively. The question is, do the kids really care? The hands-on trades have been ignored for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty (instead of getting paper cuts or carpal tunnel "ailments").

    3. Re:Ideal for schools. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Ehh? Was it really necessary to throw those buzz words in there? Really now, who gives a flying hoop what tech is used to present this kind of info when the issue at hand is the information itself.

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    4. Re:Ideal for schools. by dmatos · · Score: 1

      As a child, my parents took me to many various museums. One of my favourites was the Science & Technology museum in Ottawa. I'm certain that some of the models there were cutaways of working 2-stroke and 4-stroke cylinders.

      I remember it as being one of the coolest things there (although there were tons of cool things), watching how everything opens and closes at just the right time, all mechanically linked, and that makes the engine go.

      Do your kids a favour. Take them to one of these places. They'll have fun. You'll have fun. Bonding will occur.

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    5. Re:Ideal for schools. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Have an interactive animation of an internal combustion engine an let the kids play with spark timing, rich/lean fuel, worn piston rings, etc.

      Pumps: play with discharge rates, NPSH, motor sizes, waterhammer.

      I'm sure you can think of other real-world examples that would spark interest in kids that are not easily motivated by just reading about such things. Even complicated mathematics can be easily demonstrated and then you work backwards from there.
       
      Those who are really interested will follow up and the rest will still come away with a good basic understanding of the processes.

    6. Re:Ideal for schools. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Yes, but you miss my point.

      What does any of that have to do with AJAX or any of the other specific techs mentioned?

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    7. Re:Ideal for schools. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Can you do any of the things I mentioned without some form of DHTML in a universally-available web page? With Java, maybe, but those apps seem to be fairly slow.

      You seem to be missing the larger picture, do you have kids?

    8. Re:Ideal for schools. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not missing the larger picture.
      Yes, I do have kids.

      There are many MANY ways of doing any given thing.
      My point is who cares about what technology you are going to use at this point. It just gets in the way of the real ideas and design required to run with it.

      Figuring out what and why before throwing how into the mix will allow the idea to flourish to it's fullest potential, every time. Once you start talking how, you're really talking about limiting and confining your idea. Bad if your idea is not yet well defined.

      By example, if AJAX and the like had never been mentioned in the GP post, we could now instead be discussing the idea at hand, instead of bantering over the tech involved.

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    9. Re:Ideal for schools. by GeckoX · · Score: 1
      By point, which has greater impact:


      QED, AJAX (ex-DHTML) can illustrate this pretty effectively. The question is, do the kids really care? The hands-on trades have been ignored for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty (instead of getting paper cuts or carpal tunnel "ailments").


      or:


      Interactive Multimedia can illustrate this pretty effectively. The question is, do the kids really care? The hands-on trades have been ignored for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty (instead of getting paper cuts or carpal tunnel "ailments").


      Because you aren't really meaning to talk about QED or AJAX, what you're talking about is whether kids should be exploring things hands on or not.

      A good side effect of the second example is also that anyone reading it could understand it. Most parents wouldn't get past the first few words in the original version.
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    10. Re:Ideal for schools. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      OK, go ahead.

      I've been doing design work (refinery piping systems and similar) for about 20 years, so I'm interested in your thoughts on the matter.

      This is not to tout my experience for good or bad, it's just what I've done and what I'm familiar with.

    11. Re:Ideal for schools. by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      For those who remember the "Visible Engine", here is the latest from Revell. Marcell Jovine, the creator of the original as a successor to his "Visible Man" and "Visible Woman", died in 2003.

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    12. Re:Ideal for schools. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      QED="quite easily done" but it wouldn't surprise me if it eventually meant something different in the name-hungry geek world.

      "Interactive Media" brings to mind many things and most of them are marketing-speak and closed-platform. DHTML and (apparently) AJAX are different. In my opinion.

    13. Re:Ideal for schools. by arodland · · Score: 1

      It does mean something else in the geek world -- as well as most of the rest of the world outside of your head. What that something is is "quod erat demonstrandum", or "that which was to be proven". In other words "looky here, that last step was the same thing we were supposed to be proving. I guess we must be done."

      Although, in the really geeky world it's also Quantum Electrodynamics :)

  20. An all-paper engine except for the motor? by Starker_Kull · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't seem as impressive to brag about a "V8 Engine made entirely out of paper, with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.)" - that's kinda like saying, "Sushi made entirely out of rice paper, with the execption of a few parts (fish, eel, etc.)"

    But it IS a cool looking model!

  21. Re:Dupe from BoingBoing by Mancat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not necessarily. Even in your average gas engine, the ratio of air to fuel is 14:1. Air makes up the majority of the intake charge. There would not be enough liquid fuel present to leak out. However, I doubt that a paper model engine could be built strong enough to contain the compression required to create downforce on the piston once the charge is ignited. Much less contain the explosion itself.

    Wow. What a worthless reply this was.

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  22. Natural Solution by ThndrShk2k · · Score: 1

    It seems we have a natural, non-pollutant way for traveling, saving nature from the wraths of smog everywhere...

    Not noting that it uses said nature to make the vehicles themselves, causing more destruction than before. But hey, can't make an omlette without breaking a carton of eggs, or two

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  23. Re:Dupe from BoingBoing by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    But this is Slashdot, it fit right in. :)

  24. Coral caches by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 1, Informative

    Before their server is totally burned down, here's a coral cache of the page:
    http://www.yeesjob.com.nyud.net:8090/v8engine.htm

    Cache of the videos:
    http://www.yeesjob.com.nyud.net:8090/images/movie0 1.MOV
    http://www.yeesjob.com.nyud.net:8090/images/movie0 2.MOV
    http://www.yeesjob.com.nyud.net:8090/images/movie0 3.MOV

    At least the real page doesn't call it a "Functional paper V8 engine", but a "V8-engine paper model". I guess this adds "paper cuts" to the list of workplace injuries for mechanics, eh?

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  25. riceboy by pintomp3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    so would import cars be made out of rice paper?

  26. $85 is too much by t0qer · · Score: 1

    For the same price I can get a Spinblade Heli from Radio Shack, and it's a real flying heli with a real motor (vs a model of a motor)

    Not to grouse, but in the last year there has been a lot of companies offering RTF aircraft for under $100, I think slash should do a story on a few of them since it's so close to christmas.

    1. Re:$85 is too much by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      It's a model, it's supposed to look nice, and it does looks nice, it looks like a real engine. It has a lot of details that a real engine has. You're mostly paying for the plans since it took a while to design the whole model.

  27. More problems! by Chayak · · Score: 1

    Oh great, not in addition to all the oil changes, engine treatments and tune ups I have to worry about termites too!

  28. Paper Car? by Harry+the+Dirty+Dog · · Score: 0

    Imagine the crumple zone...

    Harry.

  29. Paper is not ecologically friendly by thirty2bit · · Score: 1

    I prefer to stick with bamboo, coconuts and grass. It worked for the Professor on Gilligan's Island.

  30. RP by thpdg · · Score: 1

    Rapid Prototyping at its best.

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    -Patrick

    "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

  31. I just can't help myself. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The engine is powered by 2×1.5V D Batteries

    This is NOT a functional engine, it is a model. A functional engine made out of paper would most likely burn.

    • A small object, usually built to scale, that represents in detail another, often larger object.


    LK
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    1. Re:I just can't help myself. by bani · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, a functional engine made out of paper would explode first. The confetti left over would then burn.

    2. Re:I just can't help myself. by AtrN · · Score: 1

      Ah Lord Kano, I see you are a man of science.

    3. Re:I just can't help myself. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      You'd never be able to build enough pressure in a paper cylinder to cause it to explode.

      LK

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  32. I throw in the towel by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    And though working on import autos are origami from hell (hard to reach around bent sheet metal). But this takes the cake!

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  33. Paper Car by govt-serpent · · Score: 1
    ...a fully functional car made out of paper?"

    Henry Ford made a car from hemp. Google is your friend...

    1. Re:Paper Car by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      Google is your friend... Then why doesn't he ever call anymore?!

    2. Re:Paper Car by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

      Henry Ford made a car from hemp.

      I volunteer myself to act as the catalytic converter

    3. Re:Paper Car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, so that's where the old saying, "Don't drink and drive; smoke dope and fly," comes from....

      Oh wait, it wasn't a flying car?

  34. My paper creation by RedACE7500 · · Score: 1

    I tried to make a paper magnet, but I had to power it with a real magnet.

    1. Re:My paper creation by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      You could power it with 2 D cells, just like the the article!

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  35. Uhhh... by OSDever · · Score: 1

    What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?

    Can't we start with getting a working engine?

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  36. Green-piece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?"

    A fully functional condom made out of paper.

  37. Trabant by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 1
    What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?
    I've travelled in one of these on far too many occassions.
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  38. paper 3d printers by mattr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This guy should talk to CraftROBO.

    Especially his Notre Dame is cool, the parthenon too but no friezes!

    Would be nice if someone provided info on techniques so people could build anything they like, perhaps with some software.

    The engine is interesting but why? (and humidity) was on my mind.

    Also there in fact are 3d printers (like those using LOM method I think) that make a model by laminating many sheets of paper together. Seems to be a superior way to build an actual paper engine, since the blocks you get are actually quite hard, though you can peel sheets off if you really try.

  39. Paper clock anyone?? by yamamushi · · Score: 1

    How come nobody has mentioned, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060910666/002-19 26716-9392801?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v =glance I'm sure every geek has tried making one? I've got a working one, took me about a week and a half.

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    1. Re:Paper clock anyone?? by EnderGT · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's a blast from the past... I tried mine about 18 years ago, never finished it. Maybe I should try again... when I finish the Yamaha motorcycle model I'm working on now.

  40. Been there, done that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Digg'd a long time ago.

    Long enough that its scrolled to the second or third page over at Digg.com.

    Sorry Slashdot, I've lost my faith. It isn't news when you've already heard it.

    "Slashdot. Archives for Nerds, Dupes that matter".

    1. Re:Been there, done that. by digid · · Score: 1

      your comment is a dupe.... who cares... grow up... this site is more about discussion than anything. More discussion about technology has gone down in the halls of slashdot than anywhere else on the web.

      As far as I can tell every comment left at digg.com was written by 13-16 year olds.

      So an article popped up on digg.com a few days before slashdot. Big deal, hasn't ruined my day.

      The best thing about digg is that it's drawing people like you out of here and leaving people who want to have real discussion, people who don't want to pollute the posts with "DUPPPE!!!!"

  41. Pssht. by Paperclip1 · · Score: 0

    Now let's see it origami style.

  42. Re:Sonny... by DigitalHammer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Back in my day, we didn't have no D cell batteries or paper...why, we just turned a crank inside a containment dome made of parchment. :)

  43. Ooh! Ooh! It's my turn to say it! by ian_mackereth · · Score: 1
    It's not a functional engine, it's just a (insert adjective here) model!

    (Hey, every second post is saying this, and I didn't have enough moderator points to mark them all all "redundant"!)

  44. How the hell do you inflate it ? by bxbaser · · Score: 1

    Thats not a paper doll you have there.

  45. Paper Cars by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 5, Funny

    What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?"

    At least French rioters will only need a match...

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    Indy Media Watch-Proctologist of the Internet

  46. Did those MOV files work? by antdude · · Score: 1

    I couldn't play them. How about you guys?

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  47. Hey, i need this... by Toloran · · Score: 1

    Its definately more powerful then what i've currently got in my car.

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  48. Paper car? by bettlebrox · · Score: 1

    >What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?" I guess the paper boy could use it ...

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  49. Lego V8 by Belseth · · Score: 3, Funny

    You want to impress me make one out of legos.

    1. Re:Lego V8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.nicjasno.com/ -- Alex's Lego Technic Workshop

      Already been done.

      Well... with the use of lego pnuematics anyway.

      Check out the Ldraw files as well as the movie area... this guys work is insane!

  50. NASA building rocket out of paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Reportedly NASA is building a rocket entirely out of paper. Except the engine and wiring. Oh, and the hull, and most everything else as well. In fact, screw the paper.

    Total nonstory. It's a MODEL engine, which is run by an electric engine. How did this submission make it past the editors?

    1. Re:NASA building rocket out of paper by RyuSoma · · Score: 1

      ..editors?

      oh, right. One who 'edits', especially as an occupation. :)

  51. No. by SeaFox · · Score: 1, Informative

    No, Engine != Motor.

    Engine - Converts chemical energy to mechanical energy.

    Motor - Converts electrical energy to mechanical energy.

    1. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just curious ...
      If you have a car, do you change the oil?
      If so, do you use motor oil, or engine oil?
      Your post seems to indicate that the motor oil I have been using is the wrong stuff.

    2. Re:No. by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      In England we'd use engine oil. This is one of those English English / American English things.

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    3. Re:No. by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      Symantecs.

      They're both interchangable now-a-days. Motor oil, motor mounts, search engine, graphics engine, motor skills, deisel engine, nitro motor, motor city..

      I understand that technically, way back when, a motor was purely electric in nature, and an engine meant internal combustion engine. But they've becomes so interchangable and mean lots of other things in modern english that it's really a waste of time trying to change that.

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    4. Re:No. by arodland · · Score: 1

      Symantecs.

      They're both interchangable now-a-days.


      No, not Symantecs. Nortons!

  52. bfd by TCaM · · Score: 1

    Cheech and Chong had a van made of pot!

  53. Get it right people by JeremyALogan · · Score: 1, Informative
    From the writeup:
    "The engine is powered by 2×1.5V D Batteries..."
    From dictionary.com:
    engine n.
    1. A machine that converts energy into mechanical force or motion.
    2. Such a machine distinguished from an electric, spring-driven, or hydraulic motor by its use of a fuel.
    motor n.
    1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts motion.
    2. A device that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy, especially an internal-combustion engine or an arrangement of coils and magnets that converts electric current into mechanical power.
    3. A motor vehicle, especially an automobile
    When will people learn that the two are NOT interchangable? An engine is a type of motor, but a motor isn't a type of engine. Get it right people.
    1. Re:Get it right people by nharmon · · Score: 1

      There is nothing wrong with that sentence. The model engine is powered by an electrical motor.

    2. Re:Get it right people by 2short · · Score: 1



      The problem with the sentence you quote is the ommission of the word "model". By the definitions you offer, engine(1) and motor(1) seem pretty interchangeable to me, and either definition of engine seems to work fine in the context at hand. What exactly are you asking anyone to get right? Is this just an experiment to see if any post containing a definition will get modded up? I guess it worked. <br><br>

      <b>informative adj</b><br>
          tending to increase knowledge or dissipate ignorance<br><br>

  54. Not Slashdotted Yet - The BF Effect by counterplex · · Score: 1

    Looks like the midnight Black Friday sale at ChumpUSA is causing most of the /. readership (read: 75+% of american geeks) to not be around. Can this be called the Black Friday Effect?

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  55. Just a few problems.... by UnixRevolution · · Score: 4, Informative

    I see just a couple problems with this model.

    1. I don't see the valve gear anywhere. No cam, no lifters, rockers, valves, or valve springs.

    2. No induction system. Nice exhaust though.

    3. Fan blades on cooling fan are facing the wrong way. the fan should draw air towards the block, not blow it away from it. (This has little do to with the block itself and more to do with the fact that the radiator is usually in front of the engine, thus the fan draws cool air towards it. Having the fan blow into it causes an overheat due to a bubble of stagnant air and high-temp engine bay air being blowin into the radiator.)

    4. Title is misleading. Thought they meant a real V8 engine. It's just a 'V8 visible model" thing.

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    1. Re:Just a few problems.... by aduthie · · Score: 1

      3. Actually, since no radiator is visible, we could just imagine that the engine compartment is similar to that of the old Saab 93. The engine was up front, the crank-driven fan was behind it, and a little radiator was behind that.

      This is not to say that Saab's layout was the most logical or efficient, but it does prove that the fan can be behind the engine, pulling air over it before pushing the same air through a radiator.

      My own problem with the fan in the paper model is that it rotates maybe 16 times for one rotation of the crankshaft. So if it were a real engine running 2000 rpm, the fan would be doing 32000 rpm!

    2. Re:Just a few problems.... by UnixRevolution · · Score: 1

      The rotational speed is also a good issue..but maybe it's a water cooled block that's now air cooled by nothing other than a LOT OF AIR FLOW?

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  56. RTFA. by ryg0r · · Score: 1
    This is a prime example of why people should RTFA.

    The first sentence:

    This V8 Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.), is fully functional.

    Only on slashdot.

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    1. Re:RTFA. by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      That's nothing, I've made a fully functional 17" powerbook entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (CPU, mobo, superdrive, etc.)and it's fully functional too.

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    2. Re:RTFA. by 2short · · Score: 1

      The "article" is not much longer than the summary. In any case you should read, or perhaps understand, the post you are replying to. Both the article and the summary describe this is as a "fully functional" engine. It is not. It is a paper model of an engine. It has impressively detailed moving parts, which are spun round by the aforementioned non-paper electric motor. But the sentence you quoted is false; it does not produce torque by consuming fuel, which is what engines do.

  57. Woot! by mister_llah · · Score: 1

    The 1st and only engine that can be repaired with white out!

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  58. What's next? A whole car? Shut your mouth funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ROFLMAO! Wow you editors sure got beaten with the funny stick today! ROFLMAO! Paper car you say? Haha, that's pure comedy throw down with a liberal hosing of cleverness! I see why I keep coming back here, day after day, year after year. It must be for your insightful and unabashed linguistic shout-outs. Good stuff guys, keep on rocking my fucking world! Digg has nothing on you guys, and that's for fucking sure!

  59. picture worth a 1000 words by zoftie · · Score: 1
  60. Obligatory Kingdom of Loathing Reference by Project2501a · · Score: 0

    My bitchin' meat car run over your paper model.

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  61. Been there, seen that, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?

    You will be suprised that such a thing does exist in the former soviet bloc. It is called Trabant. It's the pride of East German car industry. Two stroke engine with 26hp gives the small car good power to weight ratio, since its entire body is actually made of resin-hardened paper. Crash safety is usually provided by a rosary chain retro-fitted to the dashboard. Several million of Trabants have been manufactured between 1959-1991.

    Go Trabi, Go!

  62. Performance Enchancing Parts for Paper Engine by Electr!c_B4rd_Qu!nn · · Score: 0

    1) Saying "Vrooom Vrooom"
    2) Picking it up and moving it like a monster truck over your PC
    3) Doing the "SCREECH!" noise when you make a turn
    4) Putting a Bottle Rocket in it

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  63. Paper Clocks! by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Paper Clock always fascinated me. I stumbled across this in an Edmund's store in Toronto several years ago, and built it; it's a large project, 160 pieces, but it actually is constructed entirely out of paper (included in the book) and a couple of paper clips (and some rocks for weight in the weights).

    It has a pendulum, gears, two hands, and can wind up and keep time! The design is ingenious, and apparently comes from an old book the other found in a book store (of german origin, I believe).

    Fryer's Kits also had a more simplified paper clock, with just a single dial that rotates with the time; I won't link to them, since their site redirects to a non-existant domain now. Does anybody know where I can find this plan now that Fryer's seems to be defunct??? (They also had a free plan for a paper trebuchet that could launch a grape 30 feet.)

    Paper construction of kinetic models fascinates me; it's such an elegant demonstration of construction ingenuity. I would love to see other examples that people might post (other than simple dancing animals and such, which seem to be mostly what one finds when searching the 'net for moving paper models).

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    1. Re:Paper Clocks! by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah; and unlike this V8 "Model" (which someone accurately named it), which is thoroughly impressive as such, the paper clocks do actually run under their own power (well, under the potential energy of their weights, just as a typical clock would).

      But seriously, who expected a *paper* V8 to actually produce it's own power; within 5 seconds of reading the headline, one should thing "real internal combustion and paper don't mix," and realize it was a model, not a "working engine." (If someone isn't used to figuring out what the headling/article *really* meant, instead of what it actually said, all I can say is "you must be new around here.")

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  64. A hint from Italy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A V8 is so lowly, so pityful... Real people have 12 cylinders! Forza Scuderia!

  65. paper and grass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What comes next...a fully functional car made out of paper?

    No, it'll be a gearbox made of grass. ... .....Or would that just be clutching at straws?

  66. Clear plastic models by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    I always thought a clear plastic model of an epicyclic gearbox would be good. I remember helping my Dad rebuild the gearbox of our boat, which was a simple reduction box with a cone clutch and reverser. Of course if you wanted to do it "properly" you'd build a model of a simple automatic gearbox - ie. two epicyclics and a "straight through" clutch.

  67. Not that impressive by houghi · · Score: 1

    Engine made entirely out of paper with the exception of a few parts (motor, wires, etc.),

    So the engine is paper, exept the parts that make in an engine.

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  68. The Movie Links by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative
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  69. Trabant WAS a real full size "paper" car by GuyFawkes · · Score: 1
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  70. Paper Car? Sounds like the Trabant! by Hitman_Frost · · Score: 1

    Does anyone still remember the Trabant? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant

    Actually though, this only had a two stroke engine, so this could be an upgrade for it!

  71. Choice? by msl521 · · Score: 1

    Does it come in goldenrod?

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  72. A model... a year... WHAT WAS THE POINT! by Seraphnote · · Score: 1

    A model... a year... WHAT WAS THE POINT!

    So you can mold paper fiber into shapes and let it dry and harden! ...its been done!
    http://www.spiritsinthewindgallery.com/Artists/ban dyCarl/aboutArtist.htm

    So you can mold some material into the shape of a V8 to see how it works! ...its been done!
    http://www.discoverthis.com/visible-v8.html

    So you want to waste a year of your life! ...its been done!
    http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/144778-ebook.htm
    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:5UK_N1qe_nIJ: www.barenada.com/blog_general_entry.shtml%3Fentryi d%3D002518+a+year+wasted&hl=en
    and me reading this! http://slashdot.org/

    I would have been more impressed if they mashed tomatoes and cast them into fluid-functioning V8!
    OH WAIT... that's been done!
    http://www.v8juice.com/

  73. Been done before by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 1

    This guy I knew made a compleate wooden car, with a wooden engine and wooden seat and wooden wheels. The only problem is it wooden go.

    Ba-Boom-Swish! - I'll get my coat....

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    1. Re:Been done before by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like the Rolls Canardly... It rolls down hills, but canardly get up 'em.

  74. Paper by CaptainFork · · Score: 0

    I bet when you rev it, it roars like a tiger - a paper tiger that is. And when it over heats it deploys its paper cut out.

  75. The most pointless invention since powdered water? by slysithesuperspy · · Score: 1

    The first fully functional engine that uses power instead of genearating it. This produces, what? negative ? bhp? Although I like snow myself.

  76. One Advantage by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    At least it is curb-side recyclable once you're done with it.

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  77. P-P-P-Powerbook by marktwen0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is probably is probably old news to most, but one of the best pranks ever on the internet is chronicled at http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ href="http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/"

  78. Re:The most pointless invention since powdered wat by Tidal+Flame · · Score: 1

    Uh, what? You say you have an engine that "generates" power without using any? If so, I think you're going to become very famous very fast. Conservation of energy, anyone?

  79. Re:The most pointless invention since powdered wat by slysithesuperspy · · Score: 1

    Yea yea, you know what I mean really :)

  80. Most stupid article description yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then again I've only been around about a year. This one qualifies as something I'd expect from people who are, literally, functionally retarted. And when I say literally I MEAN literally, I work with developmentally disabled kids and this would be like something they would come up with for a project on writing a news article summary. Is it wrong to expect a little more from /.?

  81. Airplanes *Do* fly because of paper... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 1

    My car is entirely made out of paper, except for the car part of it.

    There is a long-standing joke in the aviation world about the two forces that are required to make an airplane fly.

    The naiive beginner student pilot will always answer: (1)Lift and (2)Thrust.
    The more experienced pilot knows that it's actually: (1)Money and (2)FAA Paperwork.

    For airplane builders, there is another famous quote: "An airplane cannot fly until the total weight of all the FAA paperwork is at least equal to or greater than the weight of the aircraft itself.

  82. Time for some combustion... by fayd2003 · · Score: 1

    Anyone got some gas and a light?

  83. Car made out of wood... by Monkey · · Score: 1

    There was this car made out of wood. The body was made of wood, the frame was made of wood and the engine was made of wood.

    Guess what?

    It woodn't run.

  84. Probably Toilet Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People continually clean up their turds with rice burners. A paper rice burner would just be more comfortable.

  85. LOT's of cars by stewwy · · Score: 1

    ....are and have been made out of paper/wood, off the top of my head I can remember:
    A British Leyland car made out of plywood for export to the third world in the '70's , can't remember the model but its on display at the British Motor museum at Gaydon in the Midlands. www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk
    The Eastern German 'trabant' where paper(instead of fibreglass) and resin was used.

    Of course the Engine/running gear is metal in both cases, but a lot of research is going on at the moment into ceramic composites for use in engines
    Almost every part on a car can be substituted (at a cost) by a non metalic alternative, but metal has one great advantage from an enviromental perspective, it is almost always possible to recycle it cheaply.

  86. Score one for paper... by InvisibleSoul · · Score: 0

    Paper 1, Rock and Scissors 0.

  87. Paper car already exists... by cbraescu1 · · Score: 1
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  88. in eBay now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have found it in eBay now.