(a) Because the typical parent lacks the time, energy, will, and training to successfully educate his/her child;
I disagree with all of these with the exception of will. The saying is very true in this instance: "If there is will, there is a way."
(b) Because your children will live in society and should learn to move in it;
Can you tell me how a public school environment has any bearing on the realities of society? If anything, anecdotal evidence shows that there is a huge adjustment needed after the end of public school in order to "fit in" to either collegiate or professional society. If you refer to the ability to interact with others in a casual, unstructured setting (hanging out) in wich case, I would have to assert that there is nothing in a public school setting that imparts this on students.
(c) Because schools help us find common values and respect for values not held in common.
Are you kidding? Are you suggesting that public schools help identify anything about values or respect? The only values that public schools impart are situational and relative. The only repect that public schools foster is blind respect for authority.
Disclaimer: I am a schoolteacher (high school Physics) and you're darn-tooting that I feel my profession and I contribute to the general good.
Great! Physics is the cornerstone of science. However, it has very little to do with values, respect (aside for the respect of the great minds of history) or religion.
I find it interesting that you use the term "general good" since that is the "in" term for "general welfare" that the constitution actually calls for the federal government to provide. I personally feel that the citizens of the USA would benefit to realize that "public school" is in essence "educational welfare." I find it interesting that a citizen that would not want to be on financial welfare for any period of time has no issue against having their children on "educational welfare" for their entire primary education.
Just as the social workers that handle the financial welfare infrastructure contribute to "the general good" so do public school teachers. Right now, we couldn't do without you. Keep the faith.
If you don't trust the government (hence the school), why do you insist on having religion in school. Personally, I trust the school more than I trust the average parent... (though that's not a reason to rely only on the school)
I do not insist on having religion in public school. I don't see where you got the idea that I do. Would you trust the government to raise the children of the citizens of the United States of America more than you would the average parent? Even if you do, are you advocating that the State should assume custody of all children *outside* standard school hours? After all, you don't trust "the average parent"
I don't think that implying that everybody doesn't agree with you doesn't think is the best way to have a good discussion...
"free market" is when one retailer influences what *every retailer* in the market is going to get, as inventory? YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND - ALL STORES GET THE WALMART APPROVED COPY, INCLUDING COMPETITORS. Its too expensive to print the 'Walmart' copy, and the 'Everybody else' copy, so all retailers get the 'Walmart' copy.
Its about as anti-free market as you can get. The customers dont decide, the sales person does. I feel so sorry for you people.
You have to be kidding!
You completely discount the free will of the publishing companies to either "stick to their guns" and publish something without Wal-Mart's blessing or to publish 2 versions one for Wal-Mart, and one for The Rest Of The World(TM).
Don't hide behind the copout "It would cost more, therefore the stockholders of the publishing companies would not be happy if they did this" If you need to go this route, then WHO is really doing the "censoring" that you speak of? Wal-Mart, or the management of the publishing companies on behalf of the shareholders?
You see, this is as free market as it gets. Wal-Mart as a customer (They purchase goods, and sell them on to the masses) has decided that they will not purchase goods that they feel are not a good match with the image they want to project. The only real way for the "Free Market" to correct this is for the publishing companies to take up the battle and refuse to sell *anything* to Wal-Mart unless they drop their restrictive policies. Imagine if you could not purchase any "popular" magazines, music or computer game software from Wal-Mart because the industries have decided to boycott Wal-Mart.
How does this happen? The pressure for this to happen has to come from consumers. And as you are (or should be) aware, the consumers aren't all that likely to rise up in masses to put the pressure on the media publishers.
It's just a contest between the publishers, Wal-Mart and the public to see "Who has the biggest set" and right now, it's Wal-Mart.
Once a notice has been given or posted that a certain action is not permetted, the mere act of being present performing the prohibited action is enough to justify a trespassing charge.
This is most commonly seen with areas available to the public (shopping malls comes to mind first) and the "no skateboarding" signs posted. If the signs are ignored, and a person is on the property performing the prohibited action (skateboarding in this instance) they can be charged with trespassing without having to be told to leave first.
Of course, IANAL. Check your local statutes for applicibility.
How does this relate to this case? Again, I don't know what the local statutes say, but if notice was given that this action is prohibited on private property, then trespass might be able to be asserted.
If they wanted to make intersections safer, they would add a 3-4 second "4 way red" before a light turned green.
I'm seeing this happening in Phoenix at intersections that have high levels of foot traffic (such as near government juvinile internment centers AKA public schools)
If you wanted to make streets safer be deterring unsafe driving, you should do the following: * Outlaw Seat belts * Outlaw Driver Side Air Bags * Mandate a sharp spike be placed in the center of every steering wheel pointing at the driver. Somthing menacing looking, but deadly sharp. Serrated edges would be nice.
You want a deterrent? Get one that might work. Fines are not a deterrent. They never have been, they never will be.
After all the "No Skateboarding/Bicycling/Rollerskating" signs I have seen around various towns, why would so many cities specifically allow these things on sidewalks by passing laws saying so?
You see, the law that lends the teeth to the bark of these signs is trespassing.
Many a private (and public) property has been damaged from skateboards and rollerblades "grinding" on rails, benches, curbs and the like. The paint chips off, the cement chips off. Do the skateboarders or bladers have to repaint or replace the now damaged items? Don't make me laugh. Then there is the ever present spectre of a lawsuit from when a pregnant woman is accidently knocked over by a someone on a board or blades.
Since the owner of the property has posted that you are not to be performing a particular action on the property, if you are on the property and performing the posted action, you may be considered trespassing.
While it is true that "skateboarding is not a crime" trespassing is.
Of course IANAL. YMMV. Check local laws for elegibility requirements. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. And all the other great disclaimers that you can find at http://www.they.com/disclaimer (for the link wary)
He wanted to charge (I think) $3 for text that would not have equalled one of his shortest stories.
He wanted to charge near full price for a product that was nowhere near full price quality. Of course the experiment was an abject failure, the cost/benifit ratio was totally wrong.
Personally, I feel that a better experiment would be a quality work at a fair price.
A fair price might be the normal price of the dead tree edition - the price of printing the dead tree edition - the retail markup + bandwith costs for download of one copy of the e-Book. This assumes that the publisher is still making their cut. If the author is self publishing, then a fair price would have the publisher's cut removed as well. Don't try to gouge the public just because it's a "new" medium.
I blame the public school system in America.
The 10th amendment to the Constution of the United States of America says:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The emphasis is mine, but it should have been there IMHO...
You see, the power was originally supposed to be held by the "united" states, with a weak federal government holding the states in a mutually benificial union. The closer the goverment was to the individual, the stronger the power of influence was supposed to be.
Fast forward to today... The power base is completely reversed. The local goverment is the least powerful followed by state and then finally federal, which is the strongest form right now.
How did we get in this backwards state? I blame the 16th president and his grab for federal powers, and the 32nd president for another massive federal power grab. I sit and wonder what the 48th president will do to the Constutiuon.
[/rant_mode]
The other thing to remember is the FLASH keeps data once the power is removed, where "regular" memory doesn't. As soon as you pull the plug, away goes your data.
You think that Micrsoft is going to not fight for "ownership" of the "in" in "Lindows?? Heck, "Windows" is just "Wdows" without "in" The only demographic that might be intrested in "Wdows" that i can think of is widowers.
Microsoft's lawyers would argue that the "in" is a core technology, not able to be seperated from the rest of the core functionality. They may even produce fabricated videotapes that support this claim.
Why don't the Lindows people subpoena MicroSoft's customer list?
OK, you get Dell, Compaq, Gateway, IBM, and other brand name computer manufacurers. You get Mericel, Avnet and other Distributors. You get Fry's Electronics, CompUSA, Staples, Best Buy and other large stores.
What's that going to get you?
Now, if you want to subponea the list of registered users, that's another kettle of fish.
Wouldn't you get water from the Fuel Cell's waste output?
It may not be enough to sustain the borax chemical reaction, but it may go a long way against needing a 3X size H2O tank. Maybe a 1.5X size tank would do.
I thought that for the sake of defining Microsoft as a monoply, Mac computers were left out out of the equation. If that was indeed the case, then Apple would indeed qualify to be defined as a "monopoly" the same way that Microsoft is.
Of course, this entire supposition is dependant on my memory recalling that the Mac computers were excluded from the defination of computers for the purpose of defining MS as a monopoly. If that isn't the case, then "never mind"
No, it's more like making possession legal, but using (being under the influence) illegal. Distrubutinon (how you get it) isn't the issue, possession is.
I want to know why a backbone provider is subscribing to ANY kind of blackhole list?
It's not like they are protecting any of thier end users? Do they even HAVE end users?
If my ISP ants to subscribe, that's fine and dandy, but if my ISP has no choice in subscribing, that is another issue. Don't give me that "If they don't want to subscribe, they can find another backbone provider" line, because that's bull. Servicing the end users (filtering ip addresses is a service) is the responsibility of the ISP, not the backbone provider.
Oh, we got trouble
Right here in River City
Right here in River City
With a capital 'T' and that rhymes with 'P' and that stands for 'pool'
That stands for pool
We surely got trouble
We surely got trouble
Right here in River City
Right here
Gotta figure out a way to keep the young ones
moral after school
...
Oho, we got trouble
We're in terrible, terrible trouble
That game with the fifteen numbered balls is the devil's tool
Devil's tool
Yes, we've got trouble, trouble, trouble
Oh, yes, we got trouble here, we got big, big trouble
With a 'T'
With a capital 'T'
And that rhymes with 'P'
That rhymes with 'P'
And that stands for pool
That stands for pool
Remember my friends, listen to me,
because I pass this way but once
I don't remember where I heard this, so treat it like the probable misinformation that it is, but you are right. To the TV cable guys, telephone and cable modem data *is* just like another channel or 2 on the coax.
Slashdot Mirror
I disagree with all of these with the exception of will. The saying is very true in this instance: "If there is will, there is a way."
Can you tell me how a public school environment has any bearing on the realities of society? If anything, anecdotal evidence shows that there is a huge adjustment needed after the end of public school in order to "fit in" to either collegiate or professional society. If you refer to the ability to interact with others in a casual, unstructured setting (hanging out) in wich case, I would have to assert that there is nothing in a public school setting that imparts this on students.
Are you kidding?
Are you suggesting that public schools help identify anything about values or respect? The only values that public schools impart are situational and relative. The only repect that public schools foster is blind respect for authority.
Great! Physics is the cornerstone of science. However, it has very little to do with values, respect (aside for the respect of the great minds of history) or religion.
I find it interesting that you use the term "general good" since that is the "in" term for "general welfare" that the constitution actually calls for the federal government to provide. I personally feel that the citizens of the USA would benefit to realize that "public school" is in essence "educational welfare." I find it interesting that a citizen that would not want to be on financial welfare for any period of time has no issue against having their children on "educational welfare" for their entire primary education.
Just as the social workers that handle the financial welfare infrastructure contribute to "the general good" so do public school teachers. Right now, we couldn't do without you. Keep the faith.
I do not insist on having religion in public school. I don't see where you got the idea that I do. Would you trust the government to raise the children of the citizens of the United States of America more than you would the average parent? Even if you do, are you advocating that the State should assume custody of all children *outside* standard school hours? After all, you don't trust "the average parent"
Did I imply, or did you infer? :)
And why isn't school where it belongs: at home? Why do you trust the education of your children to your government?
I'm not starting a fight, I'm just attempting to get you to think.
You have to be kidding!
You completely discount the free will of the publishing companies to either "stick to their guns" and publish something without Wal-Mart's blessing or to publish 2 versions one for Wal-Mart, and one for The Rest Of The World(TM).
Don't hide behind the copout "It would cost more, therefore the stockholders of the publishing companies would not be happy if they did this" If you need to go this route, then WHO is really doing the "censoring" that you speak of? Wal-Mart, or the management of the publishing companies on behalf of the shareholders?
You see, this is as free market as it gets. Wal-Mart as a customer (They purchase goods, and sell them on to the masses) has decided that they will not purchase goods that they feel are not a good match with the image they want to project. The only real way for the "Free Market" to correct this is for the publishing companies to take up the battle and refuse to sell *anything* to Wal-Mart unless they drop their restrictive policies. Imagine if you could not purchase any "popular" magazines, music or computer game software from Wal-Mart because the industries have decided to boycott Wal-Mart.
How does this happen? The pressure for this to happen has to come from consumers. And as you are (or should be) aware, the consumers aren't all that likely to rise up in masses to put the pressure on the media publishers.
It's just a contest between the publishers, Wal-Mart and the public to see "Who has the biggest set" and right now, it's Wal-Mart.
RE: A close police escort.
You forgot my favorite option:
#3. Pull over and stretch your legs for a few seconds.
If they want to follow, who says that you have to lead?
Fine, what do YOU do with your old non-functioning Sun Server then??? When one dies on me, I shoot a missile into it, and watch it explode!!!
(Sometimes I forget how we got so many pinko asinine laws in this country, then I read stuff like this and it all comes back...)
Once a notice has been given or posted that a certain action is not permetted, the mere act of being present performing the prohibited action is enough to justify a trespassing charge.
This is most commonly seen with areas available to the public (shopping malls comes to mind first) and the "no skateboarding" signs posted. If the signs are ignored, and a person is on the property performing the prohibited action (skateboarding in this instance) they can be charged with trespassing without having to be told to leave first.
Of course, IANAL. Check your local statutes for applicibility.
How does this relate to this case? Again, I don't know what the local statutes say, but if notice was given that this action is prohibited on private property, then trespass might be able to be asserted.
If they wanted to make intersections safer, they would add a 3-4 second "4 way red" before a light turned green.
I'm seeing this happening in Phoenix at intersections that have high levels of foot traffic (such as near government juvinile internment centers AKA public schools)
If you wanted to make streets safer be deterring unsafe driving, you should do the following:
* Outlaw Seat belts
* Outlaw Driver Side Air Bags
* Mandate a sharp spike be placed in the center of every steering wheel pointing at the driver. Somthing menacing looking, but deadly sharp. Serrated edges would be nice.
You want a deterrent? Get one that might work. Fines are not a deterrent. They never have been, they never will be.
You see, the law that lends the teeth to the bark of these signs is trespassing.
Many a private (and public) property has been damaged from skateboards and rollerblades "grinding" on rails, benches, curbs and the like. The paint chips off, the cement chips off. Do the skateboarders or bladers have to repaint or replace the now damaged items? Don't make me laugh. Then there is the ever present spectre of a lawsuit from when a pregnant woman is accidently knocked over by a someone on a board or blades.
Since the owner of the property has posted that you are not to be performing a particular action on the property, if you are on the property and performing the posted action, you may be considered trespassing.
While it is true that "skateboarding is not a crime" trespassing is.
Of course IANAL. YMMV. Check local laws for elegibility requirements. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. And all the other great disclaimers that you can find at http://www.they.com/disclaimer (for the link wary)
What King did was a farce of an experiment IMHO.
He wanted to charge (I think) $3 for text that would not have equalled one of his shortest stories.
He wanted to charge near full price for a product that was nowhere near full price quality. Of course the experiment was an abject failure, the cost/benifit ratio was totally wrong.
Personally, I feel that a better experiment would be a quality work at a fair price.
A fair price might be the normal price of the dead tree edition - the price of printing the dead tree edition - the retail markup + bandwith costs for download of one copy of the e-Book. This assumes that the publisher is still making their cut. If the author is self publishing, then a fair price would have the publisher's cut removed as well. Don't try to gouge the public just because it's a "new" medium.
My opinon. MINE! MINE!
The 10th amendment to the Constution of the United States of America says:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The emphasis is mine, but it should have been there IMHO...
You see, the power was originally supposed to be held by the "united" states, with a weak federal government holding the states in a mutually benificial union. The closer the goverment was to the individual, the stronger the power of influence was supposed to be.
Fast forward to today... The power base is completely reversed. The local goverment is the least powerful followed by state and then finally federal, which is the strongest form right now.
How did we get in this backwards state? I blame the 16th president and his grab for federal powers, and the 32nd president for another massive federal power grab. I sit and wonder what the 48th president will do to the Constutiuon.
[/rant_mode]
The other thing to remember is the FLASH keeps data once the power is removed, where "regular" memory doesn't. As soon as you pull the plug, away goes your data.
If L. Ron Hubbard were alive today, he'd be rolling in his grave.
Sorry, coldn't resist.
You think that Micrsoft is going to not fight for "ownership" of the "in" in "Lindows?? Heck, "Windows" is just "Wdows" without "in" The only demographic that might be intrested in "Wdows" that i can think of is widowers.
Microsoft's lawyers would argue that the "in" is a core technology, not able to be seperated from the rest of the core functionality. They may even produce fabricated videotapes that support this claim.
Heck, you freely excercising your "right to swing your fist" might allow me to excercise my right to use deadly force against you.
-Joe
OK, you get Dell, Compaq, Gateway, IBM, and other brand name computer manufacurers.
You get Mericel, Avnet and other Distributors.
You get Fry's Electronics, CompUSA, Staples, Best Buy and other large stores.
What's that going to get you?
Now, if you want to subponea the list of registered users, that's another kettle of fish.
Wouldn't you get water from the Fuel Cell's waste output?
It may not be enough to sustain the borax chemical reaction, but it may go a long way against needing a 3X size H2O tank. Maybe a 1.5X size tank would do.
I thought that for the sake of defining Microsoft as a monoply, Mac computers were left out out of the equation. If that was indeed the case, then Apple would indeed qualify to be defined as a "monopoly" the same way that Microsoft is.
Of course, this entire supposition is dependant on my memory recalling that the Mac computers were excluded from the defination of computers for the purpose of defining MS as a monopoly. If that isn't the case, then "never mind"
-Joe
"UK Serves Hummers In Former Nuclear Bunker."
I'll keep what my thoughts on that matter were to myself, thank you.
-Joe
No, it's more like making possession legal, but using (being under the influence) illegal. Distrubutinon (how you get it) isn't the issue, possession is.
It's not like they are protecting any of thier end users? Do they even HAVE end users?
If my ISP ants to subscribe, that's fine and dandy, but if my ISP has no choice in subscribing, that is another issue. Don't give me that "If they don't want to subscribe, they can find another backbone provider" line, because that's bull. Servicing the end users (filtering ip addresses is a service) is the responsibility of the ISP, not the backbone provider.
-Joe
ALBUM: The Music Man
Sad really when you think about it...ARTIST: Meredith Willson
I don't remember where I heard this, so treat it like the probable misinformation that it is, but you are right. To the TV cable guys, telephone and cable modem data *is* just like another channel or 2 on the coax.
-Joe
It looks like you didn't read the articles linked...
Go ahead and look, ye shall find answers.