...as I understand it, we spent millions of dollars and are getting all hot and bothered because we are proving what we suspected to already be true.
Wheee!
Honestly, this is a cool thing, so i don't mean to demean it. But it's the sort of thing only a geek with more than a passing familarity of physics would get excited for. Everyone else is thinking: A space-time vortex? Oh NO!!!!
Just my $0.02... maybe the rest of you aren't so cynical.
Cynical is a healthy state of being in this world. You, however, are not cynical. You could almost be called a hypocondriac ( spelling ).
This works in fungus. Mammals are a whole different ball game. Further, if science were to slow down and consider the implications of all their work, we'd never have gotten fire.
It's not up to them to consider the implications of their work. It's up to our leaders, at least that's how it's setup. No, I don't much like that either, but there you go.
The basic problem with that theory is that human greed knows no bound. If the record companies can get away with charging say $2 a song, do you really think they would settle for $1.50?
This is what is commonly referred to as "market forces". Why should they settle for less if people are willing to pay that much for the songs?
Not to say I side with the RIAA. I'm just saying let them charge whatever they want. If people want the music, then they'll make a profit. If not, then they won't.
Of course, this doesn't affect me at all. I don't buy CDs ( haven't for years ). I'm quite content with my CD selection that I had before I made my decision. New stuff is crap anyway.
That and pride are the two things causing the current dark ages of the internet.
And make no mistake, we are in what future scholars will call the dark ages. We have this wonderful tool for communication which would enable vast networks of not just information, but concepts and ideas to be shared globally. And we are letting ( yes, letting ) big companies/governments take control and destroy this wonderful tool. All to satisfy some board of share holders, or some CEO's pride.
Whether they see us as the depth of the dark ages, or the beginning is the question I worry about.
Sorry, but just this morning one of my DCs decided that the SYSVOL directory needed to be in journal wrap state. No reason, no notice. And it wasn't fixing it. I had to take action to fix it, and it wasn't pleasant.
You'd never have this kind of crap in a linux enviroment.
The study is bought and paid for bullshit. I hope MS didn't pay that much, I doubt they'll get many suckers believing it.
On second thought, I hoped they paid through the nose.
This guy is wasting his breath. The people making the decisions now are motivated by greed.
"A little control won't hurt anybody, and it will line my pockets a bit." That's the mentality we're faced with, only multiplied by a couple 100's of thousand of greedy PHBs.
The only real way to fight that, that I've come up with at least, is spaid or neutering your local politician. Then electronically tag them.
They were "spinning". By the time you got to the actual proposal, you already had a tainted opinion of it, only to have them tell you that the scientists in question don't want to comment about it.
It was a rather heavy handed approach to it, I might add.
On either side of the issue. The article wasn't exactly informative, but it would seem to me that most people don't care, and those that do have an emotional investment in the problem.
The article *did* highlight some reasons why the clock should be kept the way it is ( and for the record, I'm all for leaving shit alone when it's working ), but the reasoning wasn't sound. They were saying they need to know the exact time measurements were taken on the other side of the world. Why wouldn't you have that with the new system? It's just silly.
I build systems and networks for a living ( asterisk since you asked ). In theory, it shouldn't matter if my client is in New York or next door. However, in practice it's easier to work with customers that are closer than it is for a customer on the other side of the country. It's the details: Things like knowing the local ISPs and equipment suppliers, to who's a good tech in the area if I need a set of hands on site.
I hate to be the one to point this out, but it's not like it's 1000 children saved each year, or 10,000 ( ignoring second hand smoke related deaths. Anybody that puts a child in that deserves worse than I could image, so we'll just let that one go ).
These people are knowingly killing themselves.
I have always felt that if someone wants to kill themselves, then go right ahead. Just don't leave a burden on those of us still around when you go.
No, of course not. These are zealots we're talking about. Logic rarely has anything to do with it.
As to the argument: What are the overall goals of OSS? I suspect you'd get 10 different answers from 5 different people. But even if you define the goal as free and open software, you'd still want OSS projects on windows to create a transition medium. So the zealots would still be wrong.
Gee, wiz, a "fully automated" worm using a different attack vector.
Let me ask you something, what *doesn't* constitute a "fully automated" worm? Was there some guy in a back room somewhere, individually infecting people with Code Red?
And IM services are hardly a new vector. If anything, this story should be about how long it has taken these people to figure out that services like AIM and ICQ are used by people with little or no computer knowledge, who will randomly click on things. You know, sorta like email. That's the real new nugget out of all of this, and hardly worth the two pages of ads to read about.
Slashdot Mirror
...what the hell is the matter with you anyway?
Throwing that kind of physics at us on a Saturday evening when you *know* most of us are half drunk?
Bastard.
An actor's performance is cruical to the success of the movie.
I hate to break this to you, but no it isn't. It's based off of who has more charisma on the screen, and in most cases, who has the hottest babes.
Acting is very low on the list of things an popular actor needs.
Look, we all know it, so someone might as well say it: Award shows suck.
I'm not sure who they are profitably to, but that can be the only reason we keep trying to put them on.
Further, an award show for games? Your largest demographic typically has to ask their parents for their allowance to *buy* the games in question.
...as I understand it, we spent millions of dollars and are getting all hot and bothered because we are proving what we suspected to already be true.
Wheee!
Honestly, this is a cool thing, so i don't mean to demean it. But it's the sort of thing only a geek with more than a passing familarity of physics would get excited for. Everyone else is thinking: A space-time vortex? Oh NO!!!!
Just my $0.02... maybe the rest of you aren't so cynical.
Cynical is a healthy state of being in this world. You, however, are not cynical. You could almost be called a hypocondriac ( spelling ).
This works in fungus. Mammals are a whole different ball game. Further, if science were to slow down and consider the implications of all their work, we'd never have gotten fire.
It's not up to them to consider the implications of their work. It's up to our leaders, at least that's how it's setup. No, I don't much like that either, but there you go.
I can get red bubbles in my beer!
Mmmm, red-bubbled beer....
Huh, the article doesn't mention if this works for inverse bubbles.
The basic problem with that theory is that human greed knows no bound. If the record companies can get away with charging say $2 a song, do you really think they would settle for $1.50?
This is what is commonly referred to as "market forces". Why should they settle for less if people are willing to pay that much for the songs?
Not to say I side with the RIAA. I'm just saying let them charge whatever they want. If people want the music, then they'll make a profit. If not, then they won't.
Of course, this doesn't affect me at all. I don't buy CDs ( haven't for years ). I'm quite content with my CD selection that I had before I made my decision. New stuff is crap anyway.
...still one of my favorite sins.
That and pride are the two things causing the current dark ages of the internet.
And make no mistake, we are in what future scholars will call the dark ages. We have this wonderful tool for communication which would enable vast networks of not just information, but concepts and ideas to be shared globally. And we are letting ( yes, letting ) big companies/governments take control and destroy this wonderful tool. All to satisfy some board of share holders, or some CEO's pride.
Whether they see us as the depth of the dark ages, or the beginning is the question I worry about.
Sorry, but just this morning one of my DCs decided that the SYSVOL directory needed to be in journal wrap state. No reason, no notice. And it wasn't fixing it. I had to take action to fix it, and it wasn't pleasant.
You'd never have this kind of crap in a linux enviroment.
The study is bought and paid for bullshit. I hope MS didn't pay that much, I doubt they'll get many suckers believing it.
On second thought, I hoped they paid through the nose.
What can I say? Guilty as charged.
Shoulda had breakfast this morning.
A misconception bread from using windows.
A popular system != more vulnerable
In fact, in the OSS world, the opposite is often true.
Or maybe you haven't seen the need?
I work at a dental office that's trying to go chartless. We use these things in the op for office visit documentation.
My staff didn't want to use them the first week, then growled at me when I needed to take it for maintence ever afterwards.
There are uses for tablets, but they aren't flashy or glamorous.
I'm just going to link something: http://openvpn.net/
This guy is wasting his breath. The people making the decisions now are motivated by greed.
"A little control won't hurt anybody, and it will line my pockets a bit." That's the mentality we're faced with, only multiplied by a couple 100's of thousand of greedy PHBs.
The only real way to fight that, that I've come up with at least, is spaid or neutering your local politician. Then electronically tag them.
Please, think of the children.
They were "spinning". By the time you got to the actual proposal, you already had a tainted opinion of it, only to have them tell you that the scientists in question don't want to comment about it.
It was a rather heavy handed approach to it, I might add.
On either side of the issue. The article wasn't exactly informative, but it would seem to me that most people don't care, and those that do have an emotional investment in the problem.
The article *did* highlight some reasons why the clock should be kept the way it is ( and for the record, I'm all for leaving shit alone when it's working ), but the reasoning wasn't sound. They were saying they need to know the exact time measurements were taken on the other side of the world. Why wouldn't you have that with the new system? It's just silly.
No I don't.
I'm just a no class, beat down fool. And I will always be that way.
It's a matter of logistics.
I build systems and networks for a living ( asterisk since you asked ). In theory, it shouldn't matter if my client is in New York or next door. However, in practice it's easier to work with customers that are closer than it is for a customer on the other side of the country. It's the details: Things like knowing the local ISPs and equipment suppliers, to who's a good tech in the area if I need a set of hands on site.
Foriegn companies may have the same issues.
Bullshit.
The system is fucked up, but it ain't that fucked up.
Nice story. Shoulda started it with, "One time, at band camp..."
I hate to be the one to point this out, but it's not like it's 1000 children saved each year, or 10,000 ( ignoring second hand smoke related deaths. Anybody that puts a child in that deserves worse than I could image, so we'll just let that one go ).
These people are knowingly killing themselves.
I have always felt that if someone wants to kill themselves, then go right ahead. Just don't leave a burden on those of us still around when you go.
Wait, you're a VP at a bank, and you used a check card online? Not to question your intelligence, but that's not a very bright thing to do.
Oh? And why would you say that?
No, of course not. These are zealots we're talking about. Logic rarely has anything to do with it.
As to the argument: What are the overall goals of OSS? I suspect you'd get 10 different answers from 5 different people. But even if you define the goal as free and open software, you'd still want OSS projects on windows to create a transition medium. So the zealots would still be wrong.
In short, ignore them and keep up the good work.
Which is ironic because you not only had time to read it,
This is slashdot, good sir. I resent your implications.
Gee, wiz, a "fully automated" worm using a different attack vector.
Let me ask you something, what *doesn't* constitute a "fully automated" worm? Was there some guy in a back room somewhere, individually infecting people with Code Red?
And IM services are hardly a new vector. If anything, this story should be about how long it has taken these people to figure out that services like AIM and ICQ are used by people with little or no computer knowledge, who will randomly click on things. You know, sorta like email. That's the real new nugget out of all of this, and hardly worth the two pages of ads to read about.
both are theories, both have zealots. Everyone will claim this. No-one will ever know.
ID isn't theory, it's a belief.