When I was a kid, and I would "exploit" the rules set down by my parents, I would always get the same lecture, "If you aren't old enough to handle this responsibility, we're going to take it away".
I seriously think the government needs to do the same.
Look at all this childish grab for cash, when you don't actually produce something. I say, if you turn into or start a litigation company, you are expressly forbidden from filing any lawsuits based on Patents, trademarks or copyrights.
There. That should solve that problem. Heh, solved the legal problems of the US, all before 7am.
If a case is dismissed with prejudice, I would be all for the looser paying the winner's legal fees. Plus wages of those on the winning side who were working on the case.
Seems fair to me, and it would cut down on this absolute bullshit we have to deal with right now.
What always amazed me is the number of people who got these popups. Normal users, sure, that's understable. But I'd have friends that work in the tech dept getting these things, and complaining to ME about them.
I was even flamed a few times, on various internet forums, because I told people to, "Install a god damned firewall" to block these things. Not because of my tone, but because that obviously wouldn't work.
There are reasons why people use these tactics. There are enough idiots in the world that they work.
Really? Are colleges teaching students how to administrate networks efficiently and properly? Sure, we are being taught how to program, but in such a "read this, do this" method that it's hardly what I'd call trouble shooting.
Colleges aren't teaching people anything helpful beyond a language or two. At least, they weren't when I went through. They had 1 linux class, taught on RH 5.2 ( already old then ), with a professor who was learning as he went. We went through the installation ( over 3 classes mind you ), and we got all sorts of things wrong ( KDE = Kernel Development Enviroment. Good guess ), and wouldn't give out CDs with the software because of "licensing issues".
The more advanced programming classes were a joke. I mean, if you did what the professor wanted, it was moderately interesting, but your program didn't even have to WORK! As long as you got close to the algorithm, regardless of the language,he was happy. And, incedently, if you used a language that the professor didn't know, you could simply write a "hello world" program, obfusicated of course, and he'd pass it.
No, I am not surprised by the articles claim. And neither should anybody working it the field.
MPAA and RIAA ( through our beloved Sen Hatch ) will outlaw p2p networks.
We'll use them anyway.
A few people will get lawsuits ( notably, those who run insecure versions on their OS that are running, in effect, an open proxy ), a few people will pay thousands of dollars, and the rest of us won't even bat an eye.
What they need to do is let it stay dead for a few years ( read: 5-10 ), then come up with a new spin on the universe that makes it completely different. Like, the borg ( or something worse ) take over the federation, and the series is about the last few ships and captains and their struggles.
Something dramatically different that would provide even the most BORING writer with material enough to go for at least a few seasons.
And damn it, I don't care how cool you think it is, NO MORE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL. Jesus, talk about taking an interesting plot element and wearing it out.
I am honestly wondering why SCO hasn't be sensored yet, if that's the correct term.
It can be proven, I'm sure, that they have lied to the media regarding their claims, and it doesn't take on long to speculate as to why. Given the amount of absolute bullshitting they've done, I wonder why a judge in one of the cases or the stock exchange itself hasn't sensored them yet.
Not mute them, just make them filter their "press releases" through an independant body.
and as more and more big greedy companies and individuals lay their grubby hands on it, it's turning into something that you could call the CorpyWeb...
In what way? What, specifically, is "corporate" about the internet. What has been added to it in say, oh, the past five years, that would make you think that?
Never under-estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
I can't help realize that the internet of today is a far cry from what it was intended to be in terms of freedom of communication
Um...wasn't the internet born at the department of defense? Awfully nice of them, to make this huge network for freedom of communication.
Oh, wait, that's not what it was intended for. It was intended to be a network of communication, built to survive outages of several large nodes, in case of a nuclear attack. It's only been as more and more people began romaticising it, that we've come up with this free communications thing.
While I'm not apposed to it, I am realistic about it. Would you leave your car, complete with keys, parked in a stadium parking lot, with an open door, and a sign stuck on the steering wheel saying, "Please don't take"? That's essentially what you do with your computer when you go online without any sort of protection ( short of the sign, mind you ).
This is the first step, I'm sure, to giving it to politicians.
On perhaps a bit more serious of a note, what does this do for us? Is this highlighting that we now know HOW the disease is created, so we can start developing a cure? Or am I wrong. Again.:)
This is a law passed UNANIMOUSLY in the Senate, and signed by President Clinton. Law is, hopefully, the framework for order in society, and the basis for societal "right" and "wrong" God help us if this is right. Using politicians as a moral weathervane is foolish move in the best of times, and downright dangerous the rest of the time.
( btw: Did you like the use of 'God' to lend weight to my argument? Politicians have been using that trick for years )
As a blanket statement, this is wrong. If 100 identical systems end up costing more in support, lack of features, or lack of performance, then it is still wrong
Well, when taken out of context, yes, that's mostly true.
Also, efficiency for IT is not necessary efficiency for the bussiness or organization. IT doesn't rule... it serves. Too many IT folks forget that.
Well, ok. But we serve our bosses/companies. Not the end user. And to save the company much headaches, you keep the number of applications you support down to the bare minimum. While it make look like arrogance from the outside, it's actually a very difficult juggling act, with people on all sides critising you for matters that are beyond your control in many cases.
Common misconception, and quite wrong. The IT dept is responsible for maintence of the hardware and software, so they are in the best position to dictate what that hardware and software is.
Now, granted, it is IT's responsible to determine what the staff needs to do on their computers, and come up with the most efficient way of doing that. But it makes no sense to have 100 dissimilar systems on the network that 10-20 full time techs have to support, instead of 100 identical systems that a single tech can handle part time.
Seriously, there was only one bad decision I can see here, and that was to go with windows, and I'm sure we can attribute this to laziness.
Financially, it makes more sense to ditch apple's stuff. It's considerably more expensive than pc hardware, and in your enviroment, I can't see a real use for it.
Once the decision was made to go with windows, the rest follow suit as common sense. Of course they are going to recommend against Open office, that's like adding moving parts to an already complicated machine.
Same with IE, to a limited extent. Through the use of group policies, I've managed to, at several sites, neuter it, to protect the users from themselves, and with a SUS server in place, their risk is effectively reduced. Not that I wouldn't love to hook them up on firefox and the like, but some customers won't even consider the possibility.
Using this method, I have achieved my life long dream of tapeless ( well, everything-less ) backups.
I simply make a tar.bz2 file with all my important files, filter it through gpg, then post it on edonkey, usually titled, "Olsen twins getting it on", and then usually the date.
Viola, instant backup that is available to me whereever I may go.
You understand that my original statement was a joke, right? Not meant to be taken in any serious content, nor to spark an intellectual debate?
Christ, get a sense of humor. Linux/windows, who the fuck cares? As long as your administrator is good ( and in windows case, has plenty of time on his/her hands ), then who cares what you are running.
I really wish there were a way to beat the stupid out of people over the internet.
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Wish I had a mod point for you. Your view may not be shared, but it definitely was informative.
:)
So, take a raised glass and some karma instead.
Hmm. Suddenly I'm not so worried about the Microsoft marketing machine.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Let's all hope they continue to show this level of commitment to open source in the future!
When I was a kid, and I would "exploit" the rules set down by my parents, I would always get the same lecture, "If you aren't old enough to handle this responsibility, we're going to take it away".
I seriously think the government needs to do the same.
Look at all this childish grab for cash, when you don't actually produce something. I say, if you turn into or start a litigation company, you are expressly forbidden from filing any lawsuits based on Patents, trademarks or copyrights.
There. That should solve that problem. Heh, solved the legal problems of the US, all before 7am.
I'd vote to support this.
If a case is dismissed with prejudice, I would be all for the looser paying the winner's legal fees. Plus wages of those on the winning side who were working on the case.
Seems fair to me, and it would cut down on this absolute bullshit we have to deal with right now.
What always amazed me is the number of people who got these popups. Normal users, sure, that's understable. But I'd have friends that work in the tech dept getting these things, and complaining to ME about them.
I was even flamed a few times, on various internet forums, because I told people to, "Install a god damned firewall" to block these things. Not because of my tone, but because that obviously wouldn't work.
There are reasons why people use these tactics. There are enough idiots in the world that they work.
Someone mod parent up please.
Think of the kittens
Really? Are colleges teaching students how to administrate networks efficiently and properly? Sure, we are being taught how to program, but in such a "read this, do this" method that it's hardly what I'd call trouble shooting.
Colleges aren't teaching people anything helpful beyond a language or two. At least, they weren't when I went through. They had 1 linux class, taught on RH 5.2 ( already old then ), with a professor who was learning as he went. We went through the installation ( over 3 classes mind you ), and we got all sorts of things wrong ( KDE = Kernel Development Enviroment. Good guess ), and wouldn't give out CDs with the software because of "licensing issues".
The more advanced programming classes were a joke. I mean, if you did what the professor wanted, it was moderately interesting, but your program didn't even have to WORK! As long as you got close to the algorithm, regardless of the language,he was happy. And, incedently, if you used a language that the professor didn't know, you could simply write a "hello world" program, obfusicated of course, and he'd pass it.
No, I am not surprised by the articles claim. And neither should anybody working it the field.
MPAA and RIAA ( through our beloved Sen Hatch ) will outlaw p2p networks.
We'll use them anyway.
A few people will get lawsuits ( notably, those who run insecure versions on their OS that are running, in effect, an open proxy ), a few people will pay thousands of dollars, and the rest of us won't even bat an eye.
For the love of all that is holy, LET IT DIE!
What they need to do is let it stay dead for a few years ( read: 5-10 ), then come up with a new spin on the universe that makes it completely different. Like, the borg ( or something worse ) take over the federation, and the series is about the last few ships and captains and their struggles.
Something dramatically different that would provide even the most BORING writer with material enough to go for at least a few seasons.
And damn it, I don't care how cool you think it is, NO MORE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL. Jesus, talk about taking an interesting plot element and wearing it out.
I am honestly wondering why SCO hasn't be sensored yet, if that's the correct term.
It can be proven, I'm sure, that they have lied to the media regarding their claims, and it doesn't take on long to speculate as to why. Given the amount of absolute bullshitting they've done, I wonder why a judge in one of the cases or the stock exchange itself hasn't sensored them yet.
Not mute them, just make them filter their "press releases" through an independant body.
SIGN. ME. UP.
Hell ya, I'd go hibernate, and very likely get paid for it. Can you say, "Test subject"?
and as more and more big greedy companies and individuals lay their grubby hands on it, it's turning into something that you could call the CorpyWeb...
In what way? What, specifically, is "corporate" about the internet. What has been added to it in say, oh, the past five years, that would make you think that?
Never under-estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
I can't help realize that the internet of today is a far cry from what it was intended to be in terms of freedom of communication
Um...wasn't the internet born at the department of defense? Awfully nice of them, to make this huge network for freedom of communication.
Oh, wait, that's not what it was intended for. It was intended to be a network of communication, built to survive outages of several large nodes, in case of a nuclear attack. It's only been as more and more people began romaticising it, that we've come up with this free communications thing.
While I'm not apposed to it, I am realistic about it. Would you leave your car, complete with keys, parked in a stadium parking lot, with an open door, and a sign stuck on the steering wheel saying, "Please don't take"? That's essentially what you do with your computer when you go online without any sort of protection ( short of the sign, mind you ).
We gave mice mad cow disease! Yay!
:)
This is the first step, I'm sure, to giving it to politicians.
On perhaps a bit more serious of a note, what does this do for us? Is this highlighting that we now know HOW the disease is created, so we can start developing a cure? Or am I wrong. Again.
This is a law passed UNANIMOUSLY in the Senate, and signed by President Clinton. Law is, hopefully, the framework for order in society, and the basis for societal "right" and "wrong"
God help us if this is right. Using politicians as a moral weathervane is foolish move in the best of times, and downright dangerous the rest of the time.
( btw: Did you like the use of 'God' to lend weight to my argument? Politicians have been using that trick for years )
I know I don't. I am grateful to them for the mozilla project, don't get me wrong, but netscape is little more than an AOL whore.
It's akin to MS taking the latest mozilla, turning it into IE.
As a blanket statement, this is wrong. If 100 identical systems end up costing more in support, lack of features, or lack of performance, then it is still wrong
Well, when taken out of context, yes, that's mostly true.
Also, efficiency for IT is not necessary efficiency for the bussiness or organization. IT doesn't rule... it serves. Too many IT folks forget that.
Well, ok. But we serve our bosses/companies. Not the end user. And to save the company much headaches, you keep the number of applications you support down to the bare minimum. While it make look like arrogance from the outside, it's actually a very difficult juggling act, with people on all sides critising you for matters that are beyond your control in many cases.
Common misconception, and quite wrong. The IT dept is responsible for maintence of the hardware and software, so they are in the best position to dictate what that hardware and software is.
Now, granted, it is IT's responsible to determine what the staff needs to do on their computers, and come up with the most efficient way of doing that. But it makes no sense to have 100 dissimilar systems on the network that 10-20 full time techs have to support, instead of 100 identical systems that a single tech can handle part time.
Seriously, there was only one bad decision I can see here, and that was to go with windows, and I'm sure we can attribute this to laziness.
Financially, it makes more sense to ditch apple's stuff. It's considerably more expensive than pc hardware, and in your enviroment, I can't see a real use for it.
Once the decision was made to go with windows, the rest follow suit as common sense. Of course they are going to recommend against Open office, that's like adding moving parts to an already complicated machine.
Same with IE, to a limited extent. Through the use of group policies, I've managed to, at several sites, neuter it, to protect the users from themselves, and with a SUS server in place, their risk is effectively reduced. Not that I wouldn't love to hook them up on firefox and the like, but some customers won't even consider the possibility.
So..yay for entropy.
I wish I could give you some mod points I have here, but you are already at +5.
They should make a special exception in this case.
But does it seem to anyone else that MS is actively trying to make Moz & friends look good?
Hey, 2 wrongs really DO make a right.
...it's a book dedicated to talking about a broadband connection.
Please excuse my rudeness, should I start snoring too loudly.
Using this method, I have achieved my life long dream of tapeless ( well, everything-less ) backups.
I simply make a tar.bz2 file with all my important files, filter it through gpg, then post it on edonkey, usually titled, "Olsen twins getting it on", and then usually the date.
Viola, instant backup that is available to me whereever I may go.
You understand that my original statement was a joke, right? Not meant to be taken in any serious content, nor to spark an intellectual debate?
Christ, get a sense of humor. Linux/windows, who the fuck cares? As long as your administrator is good ( and in windows case, has plenty of time on his/her hands ), then who cares what you are running.
I really wish there were a way to beat the stupid out of people over the internet.