Actually, you're wrong. All the various Windows toolkits render with whatsit called, I forget, GDI maybe? All the various Linux toolkits render with X11.
The systems are pretty similar, but because linux is more transparent, people can tell that different toolkits are installed. Windows isn't so transparent so people assume it's all one "toolkit" (the word toolkit isn't the most appropriate).
True. But I was trying to make a point about the group of people he generalises about. I spose either you're too ignorant to figure it out or I'm too stupid to make the point properly. I hope the former.
If you are new to the phenomenon known as "bonch" I suggest you read his posting history and submissions history. This guy would bat for the other side, but they don't like him either.
For years now I have read your anti-slashdot, anti-copyright-violation trolls. I have kept expecting you to somehow become a reasonable person or perhaps find a small moment of clarity in your clouded and strange conclusions.
I have been proved wrong, apparently you're an idiot, now and forever. I hope you rot in your abject self-delusion and ignorance.
Despite your disbelief, I believe in copyright, so do almost all slashbots. What we don't believe in is greedy corporations. We also don't believe that complete control of copyrights is reasonable or practical.
Naturally I don't speak for the entire slashbot population but I think it's bloody obvious that this is the general stance they/we take.
> Information needs to be preserved and > accessible and useful for all generations, not > just for a companies short term profit.
Quite, people forget that one of the most important reasons behind the explosion of technological progress in recent years is that people have easy access to the knowledge. You no longer have to track down x-famous scientist/engineer and be his prodigy to learn his trade, you can grab a book.
Not that I think it's likely we'll lose information. I just wanted to stress that if a DRM'd world is inevitable, there must be, at the very least, important exceptions made for schools and libraries.
I do believe information should be free, but I also understand that capitalism is what gave me my cozy lifestyle, and rosy looking future. A bit of both should do us all well.
If you think most OSS software is copying Windows you can't have used much OSS stuff. I use KDE and Windows about equally, they aren't that similar IMO.
You hate the whole of Europe? Dare I ask why? It's a rather big place with a lot of different Governments and peoples.
I'm tempted to think you're a fucking fruitcake, but I thought I'd allow you a chance to justify your ridiculous opinion before I added you to my foe list and laughed at every comment you ever right from now on.
I find it quite shocking that currently I have you listed as a friend. So I spose you said something vaguely intelligent at some point in the past. Hard to believe.
The fact that you an idiot makes your opinion pretty worthless. Enjoy having no karma. Fool.
Here's the beef: they actually made a port, and they won't make any money out of it. People like you would have found something to moan about whatever! Like shit! You people obviously completely ignore the fact that visually this game is exactly the same as the Windows game, you can play it all the way through and there are no stupid linux-specific bugs! They obviously were thinking cross-platform the whole time when they developed it.
But no. Dicks like you have to find something stupid to moan about to componsate for your tiny pricks. OSS is easy to develop for, ID had a working bug-free OSS backend already from previous games, and in order to get the game to Linux users quicker and with less bugs they shipped the port that uses OSS. Should I add that OSS is far more widely used than ALSA despite being marked deprecated? OSS has existed for years. People running even SuSE 8.2 don't have ALSA in their kernel! SuSE 8.2 is only 18 months old.
Of course you're ignoring the fact that OSS is a far superior API to develop for, and that OSS is far more mature and thus you are less likely to give the consumer a produce that is buggy if you have OSS support. Thus they put OSS support in first.
The newest whiizbang-thingy is not necessarily the best choice.
Yeah I agree completely, software is special and violating copyright is nothing like stealing a bike.
As you say software is immaterial, but bikes are material. And of course as a kid I wouldn't have dreamed of stealing a bike, while letting my mate copy Transport Tycoon was just being friendly.
I think there's room for some developers to go back to doing things via shareware, and make ridiculous amounts of money again. The whole "intellectual property" route is not the most lucrative with computer games imo, not to mention you get situations like this one because you get paranoid about making every last penny.
In fact I want to try it out. I just need some artists willing to work for free until we release.
I tell you who these "pirates" are. They are kids.
When I was a kid I had a group of friends and we all swapped games. We did this because we could only afford a few each, so we spread the resources.
Now I am grown up I love games, I play loads of the things. The REASON I like games so much is because when I was a kid I pirated a lot of games.
Games companies are only hurting themselves by naively assuming that 1 pirate = 1 lost sale. Why on earth don't more people realise you can benefit from the fact that computers make copying stuff easy!
Most people. Yes! Most people have morals and pay for software they can afford. You do don't you? Yep so do I.
I'm with you man. People are too fucking obsessed with the idea of making every single last penny out of their products. It sickens me.
Having said that it doesn't bother me too much that Valve have used copy-protection, it just appalls me that they don't care about the "minority" of users they have banned who legtimately paid for the game.
Valve are going to make a ridiculous amount of money out of this game. Why do they care about a bunch of 12 year olds who couldn't afford the game anyway? To me it just looks like greed.
I should add that I am a producer of creative content myself.
I couldn't care less if people who didn't pay for the game are getting blocked by Valve, in fact it's a good thing! Nobody wants to see another games company go like Atari did (not that this is likely for a game like Half-life2 for fuck's sake!).
What pisses me off more than anything is people like you who would have people think stealing and copying a few files are a comparable offense.
The only way I could steal HL2 is to go to a store and take a box, and that would make me a fucking arsehole who doesn't have any compassion for the store owner who I just cost 20-30 quid. Making a copy of a set of files doesn't cost anybody anything, it only has a potential cost, and nobody anywhere can quantify that cost.
But lets face it, we all know that cost is not as significant as the cost of stealing.
There's something wrong with your morals if you think small-scale copyright infringement is so immoral.
It's better to pay for things, but honestly, the worst thing for a manufacturer would be when the user doesn't buy it and doesn't pirate it either. You see by pirating it he is saying that their product is worth something to him, it's worth some of his time. They'd rather he bought it, but then again maybe he'll buy half-life3 because he likes his pirated copy of half-life2 so much.
Sex is boring, the only reason I give into my body's incessant desires to fuck (women, yes just women) is because if I don't my body makes me feel depressed/inadequate.
Sex is mostly only good for girls as far as I can tell. The whole-skin sensitivity thing is a bit good by the look of it, as well as having more erogenous zones, and they get all the foreplay too.
I prefer programming and computer games quite often actually, although ocassionaly sex is really good and I do confess, that is hard to beat. But usually that kind of sex requires a lot of booze, and anyway, like everything else in this world stuff gets boring eventually, and sex is basically just in and out with some grunting.
Bah. I wanna play half-life2.
I've wondered whether to post this, but I spose - what the hell, she isn't going to read this and I'm fairly anonymous. I'd prefer intelligent replies to ac - "you are teh sux0r" replies, but I spose I'll get both.
Yeah I hate it too, but you have to be impressed that unlike Doom3 and Halo2, Half Life2 is not available on Suprnova.org yet. I imagine if it delays the cracking crews for enough time, or at least sufficient time during the crucial peak-sales weeks after the release, that more and more games will use this authentication system.
Major disappointment my arse. It was slightly disappointing, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure they'll make plenty enough money. Also I'm sure blockbuster hit is a perfectly reasonable description. From what I've read it was a bestseller in many countries.
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Actually, you're wrong. All the various Windows toolkits render with whatsit called, I forget, GDI maybe? All the various Linux toolkits render with X11.
The systems are pretty similar, but because linux is more transparent, people can tell that different toolkits are installed. Windows isn't so transparent so people assume it's all one "toolkit" (the word toolkit isn't the most appropriate).
True. But I was trying to make a point about the group of people he generalises about. I spose either you're too ignorant to figure it out or I'm too stupid to make the point properly. I hope the former.
If you are new to the phenomenon known as "bonch" I suggest you read his posting history and submissions history. This guy would bat for the other side, but they don't like him either.
For years now I have read your anti-slashdot, anti-copyright-violation trolls. I have kept expecting you to somehow become a reasonable person or perhaps find a small moment of clarity in your clouded and strange conclusions.
I have been proved wrong, apparently you're an idiot, now and forever. I hope you rot in your abject self-delusion and ignorance.
Despite your disbelief, I believe in copyright, so do almost all slashbots. What we don't believe in is greedy corporations. We also don't believe that complete control of copyrights is reasonable or practical.
Naturally I don't speak for the entire slashbot population but I think it's bloody obvious that this is the general stance they/we take.
> Information needs to be preserved and
> accessible and useful for all generations, not
> just for a companies short term profit.
Quite, people forget that one of the most important reasons behind the explosion of technological progress in recent years is that people have easy access to the knowledge. You no longer have to track down x-famous scientist/engineer and be his prodigy to learn his trade, you can grab a book.
Not that I think it's likely we'll lose information. I just wanted to stress that if a DRM'd world is inevitable, there must be, at the very least, important exceptions made for schools and libraries.
I do believe information should be free, but I also understand that capitalism is what gave me my cozy lifestyle, and rosy looking future. A bit of both should do us all well.
Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. Mac OSX installation is very nifty but you can't do it with Linux, just try.
But it is true that Qt has gotten to be very fast in recent versions.
Although I agree, Qt has nothing to do with the KDE 3.4-beta release, so it is a troll, albeit one based on truth.
gconf is frankly a pretty heavy-weight solution. The community has better solutions available.
If you think most OSS software is copying Windows you can't have used much OSS stuff. I use KDE and Windows about equally, they aren't that similar IMO.
I find it interesting that this guy is more willing to give his money to Suprnova.org than the various media industries.
To me this indicates that the media industries are just going to keep on losing that potential income they are so desperate to keep.
You hate the whole of Europe? Dare I ask why? It's a rather big place with a lot of different Governments and peoples.
I'm tempted to think you're a fucking fruitcake, but I thought I'd allow you a chance to justify your ridiculous opinion before I added you to my foe list and laughed at every comment you ever right from now on.
I find it quite shocking that currently I have you listed as a friend. So I spose you said something vaguely intelligent at some point in the past. Hard to believe.
This is the first time I have been moderated down incorrectly! Like blimey, what was trollish about that post?
This place really doesn't like contrary opinion does it?
The fact that you an idiot makes your opinion pretty worthless. Enjoy having no karma. Fool.
Here's the beef: they actually made a port, and they won't make any money out of it. People like you would have found something to moan about whatever! Like shit! You people obviously completely ignore the fact that visually this game is exactly the same as the Windows game, you can play it all the way through and there are no stupid linux-specific bugs! They obviously were thinking cross-platform the whole time when they developed it.
But no. Dicks like you have to find something stupid to moan about to componsate for your tiny pricks. OSS is easy to develop for, ID had a working bug-free OSS backend already from previous games, and in order to get the game to Linux users quicker and with less bugs they shipped the port that uses OSS. Should I add that OSS is far more widely used than ALSA despite being marked deprecated? OSS has existed for years. People running even SuSE 8.2 don't have ALSA in their kernel! SuSE 8.2 is only 18 months old.
Fuckwit.
Of course you're ignoring the fact that OSS is a far superior API to develop for, and that OSS is far more mature and thus you are less likely to give the consumer a produce that is buggy if you have OSS support. Thus they put OSS support in first.
The newest whiizbang-thingy is not necessarily the best choice.
Yeah I agree completely, software is special and violating copyright is nothing like stealing a bike.
As you say software is immaterial, but bikes are material. And of course as a kid I wouldn't have dreamed of stealing a bike, while letting my mate copy Transport Tycoon was just being friendly.
Yeah what you say is true.
I think there's room for some developers to go back to doing things via shareware, and make ridiculous amounts of money again. The whole "intellectual property" route is not the most lucrative with computer games imo, not to mention you get situations like this one because you get paranoid about making every last penny.
In fact I want to try it out. I just need some artists willing to work for free until we release.
Generally agree with you, who cares if people who don't pay get banned?
But otherwise I want to say, don't call it stealing you stupid wanker.
I tell you who these "pirates" are. They are kids.
When I was a kid I had a group of friends and we all swapped games. We did this because we could only afford a few each, so we spread the resources.
Now I am grown up I love games, I play loads of the things. The REASON I like games so much is because when I was a kid I pirated a lot of games.
Games companies are only hurting themselves by naively assuming that 1 pirate = 1 lost sale. Why on earth don't more people realise you can benefit from the fact that computers make copying stuff easy!
Most people. Yes! Most people have morals and pay for software they can afford. You do don't you? Yep so do I.
I'm with you man. People are too fucking obsessed with the idea of making every single last penny out of their products. It sickens me.
Having said that it doesn't bother me too much that Valve have used copy-protection, it just appalls me that they don't care about the "minority" of users they have banned who legtimately paid for the game.
Valve are going to make a ridiculous amount of money out of this game. Why do they care about a bunch of 12 year olds who couldn't afford the game anyway? To me it just looks like greed.
I should add that I am a producer of creative content myself.
Fuck off with your "stealing" bullshit.
I couldn't care less if people who didn't pay for the game are getting blocked by Valve, in fact it's a good thing! Nobody wants to see another games company go like Atari did (not that this is likely for a game like Half-life2 for fuck's sake!).
What pisses me off more than anything is people like you who would have people think stealing and copying a few files are a comparable offense.
The only way I could steal HL2 is to go to a store and take a box, and that would make me a fucking arsehole who doesn't have any compassion for the store owner who I just cost 20-30 quid. Making a copy of a set of files doesn't cost anybody anything, it only has a potential cost, and nobody anywhere can quantify that cost.
But lets face it, we all know that cost is not as significant as the cost of stealing.
I beg you to change your attitude. Thank you.
The last few levels of doom3, notably delta labs 1, hell and a few of the ones after hell where trully horrorific.
I love Horror flicks, true horror that is not "Boo!" types scares. Doom 3 really satisified me on that level.
I look forward to getting hold of HalfLife 2.
There's something wrong with your morals if you think small-scale copyright infringement is so immoral.
It's better to pay for things, but honestly, the worst thing for a manufacturer would be when the user doesn't buy it and doesn't pirate it either. You see by pirating it he is saying that their product is worth something to him, it's worth some of his time. They'd rather he bought it, but then again maybe he'll buy half-life3 because he likes his pirated copy of half-life2 so much.
Sex is boring, the only reason I give into my body's incessant desires to fuck (women, yes just women) is because if I don't my body makes me feel depressed/inadequate.
Sex is mostly only good for girls as far as I can tell. The whole-skin sensitivity thing is a bit good by the look of it, as well as having more erogenous zones, and they get all the foreplay too.
I prefer programming and computer games quite often actually, although ocassionaly sex is really good and I do confess, that is hard to beat. But usually that kind of sex requires a lot of booze, and anyway, like everything else in this world stuff gets boring eventually, and sex is basically just in and out with some grunting.
Bah. I wanna play half-life2.
I've wondered whether to post this, but I spose - what the hell, she isn't going to read this and I'm fairly anonymous. I'd prefer intelligent replies to ac - "you are teh sux0r" replies, but I spose I'll get both.
Yeah I hate it too, but you have to be impressed that unlike Doom3 and Halo2, Half Life2 is not available on Suprnova.org yet. I imagine if it delays the cracking crews for enough time, or at least sufficient time during the crucial peak-sales weeks after the release, that more and more games will use this authentication system.
Major disappointment my arse. It was slightly disappointing, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure they'll make plenty enough money. Also I'm sure blockbuster hit is a perfectly reasonable description. From what I've read it was a bestseller in many countries.