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And CSS has done so far a lousy job of providing basic design elements (you can't even do basic primitive shapes or rounded corners for boxes...)
Which comes back to IE again. Gecko already supports part of CSS 3, including rounded corners. IE doesn't and won't for who knows how many years - at this rate, maybe never. We're already trapped 5 years in the past because IE makes up a huge majority of web browsers.
I think this has some great potential. Great potential for abuse too, of course. but there are ways around that.
I see all these people complaining about how it's going to be used for spam and trolling. You know what? People said the same thing about everything user-contributable on the 'net, but Slashdot, Wikipedia and even Usenet are still going strong. There are technological solutions to the problems that will arise; something as simple as a killfile could do the trick.
I'm discouraged that you folks are so quick to write it off, Slashdot of all places should be most open to new ideas.
Children are tough. Seeing goatse or rotten.com or pichunter.com (a personal favorite of mine) isn't going to warp their minds. These are all things that happen and exist in the real world; seeing them as a child isn't going to do any more harm than seeing them as an adult.
But how often are you going to come across the phrase "Tobeor not to be" or "Tobeornot to be"? If the answer is "a lot" then you add -tobeornot Otherwise you skip the one or two results that come up.
I would prefer to have lots of results that can be filtered than fewer results that can't be defiltered.
OK, that's definitely a problem. "At rain" is definitely different from "A train". "Tobeornottobe" is simply a run-together version of "To be or not to be".
No, OSS developers shouldn't care about users unless they want to; what they should be caring about is whatever they want to.
OS isn't some company that depends upon people adopting its software to exist. It's a group of people writing software that they want to use and share with the rest of the world. Having Linux on the desktop is an admirable goal, but it's not everybody's goal.
Of course it's not justified or acceptable, but you're damn right I'm going to lay part of the blame at the feet of the people that drove the kid to it.
This examples site, you mean?
Not every page on the W3C's site is perfect. Whatever. This isn't CSS's fault; it could easily be set up so that this doesn't happen.
It's the result of absolute positioning gone horribly wrong. Of course, it doesn't occur for me until my browser's 430px wide. If people are browsing at that width, then they're going to have problems on just about any site.
Saving the image that just had focus isn't terribly useful if you're using a focus-follows-mouse scheme - as plenty of Linux users do.
If it's really that important to have a full-featured File menu, it would be at the top of the image window. I doubt there is any "damn software on the planet" that does things as you've suggested.
Time is money? Send me a bill and I'll pay you for the 30 seconds it took you to right-click and figure it out. It's not hard to figure out.
Maybe I'm being confused by the term "shell", but in Windows XP, explorer crashes if I crash IE. Usually doesn't bring down the whole system, but it's a pain (and unnecessary).
As much as I'd like to agree with you, I think that's unfair. For me, at least, it takes a lot more effort to learn by reading than by listening or by watching - it also has a lot to do with the way textbooks are set up.
I think this has some great potential. Great potential for abuse too, of course. but there are ways around that.
I see all these people complaining about how it's going to be used for spam and trolling. You know what? People said the same thing about everything user-contributable on the 'net, but Slashdot, Wikipedia and even Usenet are still going strong. There are technological solutions to the problems that will arise; something as simple as a killfile could do the trick.
I'm discouraged that you folks are so quick to write it off, Slashdot of all places should be most open to new ideas.
NSFW links below, but that should be obvious.
Children are tough. Seeing goatse or rotten.com or pichunter.com (a personal favorite of mine) isn't going to warp their minds. These are all things that happen and exist in the real world; seeing them as a child isn't going to do any more harm than seeing them as an adult.
For the longest time? You still can.
It's not a bug, it's a desirable feature.
Yep, Linux has got it. Not really surprising, considering that bb4win is a port of it.
It's called "Blackbox" (with no "for Linux", as it's the original), and it has several forks (openbox and fluxbox come to mind)
Are we somehow obliged to like everybody who dies?
I doubt you would say "screw them" is unacceptable on hearing of bin Laden's death. Why is this any different?
Apparently you've never heard of "genetic algorithms". Computers don't need sentient guidance.
Gravity is still an unproven theory according to the tenets of the scientific method. I hope you've invested in heavy boots.
If you can't use logic as a base, then I don't see how it is possible to know anything.
But how often are you going to come across the phrase "Tobeor not to be" or "Tobeornot to be"? If the answer is "a lot" then you add -tobeornot Otherwise you skip the one or two results that come up.
I would prefer to have lots of results that can be filtered than fewer results that can't be defiltered.
OK, that's definitely a problem. "At rain" is definitely different from "A train". "Tobeornottobe" is simply a run-together version of "To be or not to be".
No, OSS developers shouldn't care about users unless they want to; what they should be caring about is whatever they want to.
OS isn't some company that depends upon people adopting its software to exist. It's a group of people writing software that they want to use and share with the rest of the world. Having Linux on the desktop is an admirable goal, but it's not everybody's goal.
You make me physically ill.
Hopefully they'll also realize that it is those same imperfections that make life interesting.
Please, spare me the philosophy.
A phrase is a phrase, whether there are spaces between the words or not.
I would argue that it is proper for Google to do this; if you don't want tobeornottobe you add a -tobeornottobe.
(I did a quick searche on "go ogle" and it didn't seem to turn up anything without the phrase the way you want it)
Of course it's not justified or acceptable, but you're damn right I'm going to lay part of the blame at the feet of the people that drove the kid to it.
(obvious September 11 2001 tie-in omitted)
This examples site, you mean?
Not every page on the W3C's site is perfect. Whatever. This isn't CSS's fault; it could easily be set up so that this doesn't happen.
It's the result of absolute positioning gone horribly wrong. Of course, it doesn't occur for me until my browser's 430px wide. If people are browsing at that width, then they're going to have problems on just about any site.
Saving the image that just had focus isn't terribly useful if you're using a focus-follows-mouse scheme - as plenty of Linux users do.
If it's really that important to have a full-featured File menu, it would be at the top of the image window. I doubt there is any "damn software on the planet" that does things as you've suggested.
Time is money? Send me a bill and I'll pay you for the 30 seconds it took you to right-click and figure it out. It's not hard to figure out.
If you can put things on a moral scale, then morality is measurable.
I don't think you can, of course. Morality is a social and cultural thing (and philosophy is ass-hattery, for the most part)
If you had even spent a moment thinking about the problem, you'd know why.
Imagine this scenario: I'm editing 3 different pictures. I go to the main window and click File->Save. Now, which image did it save?
As for the menu thing, it can pretty much be guaranteed that it's not the GIMP's fault. Blame it on Windows or GTK+ (or a combination of the two).
Then use Plain Old Text mode instead.
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Maybe I'm being confused by the term "shell", but in Windows XP, explorer crashes if I crash IE. Usually doesn't bring down the whole system, but it's a pain (and unnecessary).
How do philosophers determine what is moral? Presumably if morality isn't measurable, then no evidence can be found to support any moral stance.
Without evidence to back it up philosophy would seem baseless. Of course, if it has evidence, then it's a science.
WTF does long division have to do with anything?
If I tried to do long division right now, I probably couldn't. If I absolutely had to, I could figure it out, but it would take some time.
This is like saying that you don't trust a bus driver to drive safely because he doesn't know how to drive a horse and carriage.
As much as I'd like to agree with you, I think that's unfair. For me, at least, it takes a lot more effort to learn by reading than by listening or by watching - it also has a lot to do with the way textbooks are set up.
But if you can solve it with a calculator, why the hell would you go to the effort to do it another way?
This seems to me like decrying the way cars have led to people not having the skills to interact with horses.