A $10 rental with NO DEPOSIT and NO OBLIGATION TO RETURN IT.
Sounds like I can walk in, plop down ten bucks, and walk out with a perfectly good hunk of hardware and no one will come looking for me if I never bring it back.
Also, all of us parachuters like to have raunchy gay butt sex in our secret sky diving clubs. I personally prefer sex with goats, but they let me in as an exception
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(finally, the guitar solo)DAA DAAAADAA DAADA DAADADAA DAAA DAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAA
(guitar catches on fire)DA DAAAAAA DAAAA
Don't forget that '*' is used in C for pointer declarations, which is distinct from pointer dereferencing. Also, '*=' which is related to '*' as multiplier, but distinct, too. 5 different uses for the same character, 3 uses for the plain '*' operator.
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.. or pregnant.
Wait, this is/. No chance of pregnancy here. Whew!
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You: Take my spousal unit, please! Us: Hilarious! Please assualt us with more!
You: Geeks get no sex, EVER!!! Us: OMG - funny but true! And also funny! And sad:( - HA HA HA
You: How many dead ocean-going lawyers does it take to have sex with light bulb? ANS: 3 - banzai!!! Us: Please stop! You slay us with razor sharp wit.
So the answer is "use another languague". ROTFL. How do you do generics in Java? How do you do your own memory management in Java. Believe it or not, C++ is better for some things.
You made a bullshit hyperbole statement: "Perl code is fundamentally unreadable". I called you on - it's not true. Things that are fundamentally unreadable can't be read. Lots of people can read perl. Hence, you come across as a zealot, one that will make any absurd claim to promote his agenda.
Now you're backing off your claim that perl is "fundamentally unreadable" in you rebuttal with this: " There's a damn good reason that the widely held opinion of people who know both languages, is that Python is much easier to read and maintain than Perl ". Wow, talk about moving the goal posts. This may be true, python might be easier to read on average and might be easier to maintain on average. This is pretty fucking meaningless, IMO, and I never claimed otherwise. You can't paint my position however you like, but I won't defend it. Here's what I think is important: the differences in fundamental readability and maintainability between python and perl (and other languages) is usually dwarfed by the difference you see from programming practices, individual code quality, and other artifacts of skill, policy and discipline. There's a reason people frequently say "you can write obfuscated code in any langauge" after all.
Here's the another thing I think is important. I use perl as a toolsmithing language. It's ideally suited for this task, IMO, and with care, maintainable tools can be written. Other people undertake more serious endeavors with perl - and with the right approach, I'm sure this is a manageable task. Personally, I prefer C++ or Java for more serious / longlived / formal endeavors. Why does it piss python evangelists off so much that there is no niche for python in some programmer's worlds?
So now about the rest of you unfounded assumptions and zealotry:
you're just getting all huffy because you've invested so much time and effort in such a badly designed language
What!!! You don't know this. I've used perl for years, but it's not my "main" language or anything.
You've painted yourself into a corner, and now you don't want to admit that it was a bad idea
Again, unfounded offensive bullshit assumptions on your part. Perl isn't my main language. I've used other scripting langauges, tcl, ruby, unix shell stuff, even played with python some. I'm in no way painted into a corner. If perl ceased to exists tomorrow I'd be ok. Methods, paradigms, and experience transcend language boundaries. I have no compelling reason to add YASL to my repretoire, and with no demostrated serious deficiencies with perl for my purposes, your hot air is a waste of time.
When did you learn Perl, and how much Python code have you written
I first touched perl in about 93. I've only played with python. Your point? There's more than perl and python in this world. And there are no perfect languages, your crusades notwithstanding.
If you could be convinced that Python was easier to read than Perl, would you use it instead? I bet not, because Perl zeallots use Perl for all the wrong reasons, and they actually enjoy its flaws.
This is a strange question. I can read perl fine. If I could convince you that esperanto was easier to read than english, would you use it instead? I bet no, because Engline zealots use English for all the wrong reasons, they actually enjoy its flaws. ROFL. The irony here is that you definitely are the zealot in this case - read the whole thread. And, on average, it seems like the python guys are the zealots. Sometimes it seems like the only reason python was created was to attack perl. Seriously, python has some nice stuff in it, but why some many zealous users? My use of perl and other languages doesn't diminish your utility of python, so get off your soapbox already.
This is classic misinformation - like a good (but dishonest) debater, it's much easier to attack a strawman that the real position held by your opponent. The RIAA and similar have been extremely successful in spreading the meme that copyright violation equals theft. This of course is untrue.
Theft means something concrete - both legally and conceptually. Copyright violation is another beast entirely. Oppenheim's effort to blur the distiction is pure spin. He'd equate copyright violation with rape, murder, or genocide if he thought he could get away with it.
I just heard some sad news on the radio today - NASA Solar Powered Helios Plane was found dead in his Kauai test range. There weren't any more details yet.
I'm sure we'll all miss him - even if you weren't a fan of his high-altitude or long-endurance capabilites, there's no denying his contribution to niggardly aviation efficiency or the Slashdot trolling scene. Truly an American icon.
He shall be missed
If you've got the trump card against IBM, why wouldn't you play it right away
Ummm, have you ever played games with trump cards before? Frequently it is a good strategy to NOT play a trump card right away, both in card games and real-life adventures compared to card games with mis-understood analogies.
Slashdot Mirror
I also third this idea!
You think, smart guy?
Peter
AFF, Tandem instructor
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DAA-AAA-AAAAAAAAA (building here) DAAA DAA DAAA DAAAAAA
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(chorus) DA DAAA DAAAA DAAA (key change) DAAA DAAA DAAAA AAA AAAAAACHO AAA
(enter horns) DA-WA-DA-WAAA WAAAAA!
(this is where he takes off his pants)DAAAAAAAAAAA DAAA DAAAAAAAAAAAA DAAA
(then about four minutes of this)DAA DAA DAAAA ADDD ADDD DAAAAD DAAAA
(finally, the guitar solo)DAA DAAAADAA DAADA
DAADADAA DAAA DAAAAAAAAAAAD DAAAAA
(guitar catches on fire)DA DAAAAAA DAAAA
(big finale)DA
Don't forget that '*' is used in C for pointer declarations, which is distinct from pointer dereferencing. Also, '*=' which is related to '*' as multiplier, but distinct, too. 5 different uses for the same character, 3 uses for the plain '*' operator.
- Win2k for complete fucking morons
- Programming for embiciles, idiots, and morons (no savants, please)
- Computer repair for the comatose
- Java for the clinicly dead
- PHP for non-sentient life forms
- Assembly for the Illiterate.
You could make a fortuneExcellent critique.
Real programmers don't use python.
In related news, I'd like to declare my own superior intelligence and creative power - everything I touch is gold, baby.
So what you're saying is that you're being a idiotic trolling asshole for free? Wow, thanks!
No, I think you're the first one to come up with that brilliant idea. Can't wait to see what you come up with next!
You are such a tool.
OMG!! ROTFLMAO!!!1!!! Propies to you and your fresh comic wit, good sir!!! Please assault us with more comedic gems from deep in you original brain!!! Master of variation of theme! Long time originality surplus in comedic form! Hilarity ensues!!
You: Take my spousal unit, please!
Us: Hilarious! Please assualt us with more!
You: Geeks get no sex, EVER!!! :( - HA HA HA
Us: OMG - funny but true! And also funny! And sad
You: How many dead ocean-going lawyers does it take to have sex with light bulb? ANS: 3 - banzai!!!
Us: Please stop! You slay us with razor sharp wit.
You: Knock Knock!
Us: Please Die!
operator overloading is not just sugar - it facilitates generic programming especially when dealing with user defined types AND native types.
So the answer is "use another languague". ROTFL. How do you do generics in Java? How do you do your own memory management in Java. Believe it or not, C++ is better for some things.
Now you're backing off your claim that perl is "fundamentally unreadable" in you rebuttal with this: " There's a damn good reason that the widely held opinion of people who know both languages, is that Python is much easier to read and maintain than Perl ". Wow, talk about moving the goal posts. This may be true, python might be easier to read on average and might be easier to maintain on average. This is pretty fucking meaningless, IMO, and I never claimed otherwise. You can't paint my position however you like, but I won't defend it. Here's what I think is important: the differences in fundamental readability and maintainability between python and perl (and other languages) is usually dwarfed by the difference you see from programming practices, individual code quality, and other artifacts of skill, policy and discipline. There's a reason people frequently say "you can write obfuscated code in any langauge" after all.
Here's the another thing I think is important. I use perl as a toolsmithing language. It's ideally suited for this task, IMO, and with care, maintainable tools can be written. Other people undertake more serious endeavors with perl - and with the right approach, I'm sure this is a manageable task. Personally, I prefer C++ or Java for more serious / longlived / formal endeavors. Why does it piss python evangelists off so much that there is no niche for python in some programmer's worlds?
So now about the rest of you unfounded assumptions and zealotry:
What!!! You don't know this. I've used perl for years, but it's not my "main" language or anything.
Again, unfounded offensive bullshit assumptions on your part. Perl isn't my main language. I've used other scripting langauges, tcl, ruby, unix shell stuff, even played with python some. I'm in no way painted into a corner. If perl ceased to exists tomorrow I'd be ok. Methods, paradigms, and experience transcend language boundaries. I have no compelling reason to add YASL to my repretoire, and with no demostrated serious deficiencies with perl for my purposes, your hot air is a waste of time.
I first touched perl in about 93. I've only played with python. Your point? There's more than perl and python in this world. And there are no perfect languages, your crusades notwithstanding.
This is a strange question. I can read perl fine. If I could convince you that esperanto was easier to read than english, would you use it instead? I bet no, because Engline zealots use English for all the wrong reasons, they actually enjoy its flaws. ROFL. The irony here is that you definitely are the zealot in this case - read the whole thread. And, on average, it seems like the python guys are the zealots. Sometimes it seems like the only reason python was created was to attack perl. Seriously, python has some nice stuff in it, but why some many zealous users? My use of perl and other languages doesn't diminish your utility of python, so get off your soapbox already.
Me toooo!!!!!
Theft means something concrete - both legally and conceptually. Copyright violation is another beast entirely. Oppenheim's effort to blur the distiction is pure spin. He'd equate copyright violation with rape, murder, or genocide if he thought he could get away with it.
Shouldn't that be "we live in a capitalist society, and in the end, the owners of the capiatal rule"?
grin/duck/run
I like excel@your.job and exclamation.point@pound.sign r@.atat.tat and i.s@.in.some.poo.how.about.you?
I just heard some sad news on the radio today - NASA Solar Powered Helios Plane was found dead in his Kauai test range. There weren't any more details yet. I'm sure we'll all miss him - even if you weren't a fan of his high-altitude or long-endurance capabilites, there's no denying his contribution to niggardly aviation efficiency or the Slashdot trolling scene. Truly an American icon. He shall be missed
Me too!!! Me Too!!!
That was so gay.