Note that I only recommended the Nvidia card for Linux;)
BTW, I'm running a 9700 Pro in my box, and I'm not planning to upgrade anytime soon.
As for the release of the x800, here in San Diego it might take a while-it did with the 9700 and 9800. And no, I wouldn't upgrade video cards right now, just like I wouldn't upgrade cpu/mobos right now (waiting for AMD's new sockets and PCI-Express).
The 9800 is the top-of-the-line $500 ATI card. Roughly analogous to a 5900. A 9600 is a mid-line card, priced like a 5700 but with slightly better performance than one.
I'm probably biased, but if I were planning on running DOOM 3 on Windows, a 9600XT w/ 128MB of RAM would be my choice. If I were planning on the running the Linux version, a FX-5700 w/ 256MB would be great (not that the extra 128MB makes a difference, but I can't seem to find a 5700 locally without 256MB of RAM). The different choices reflect the fact that Nvidia has better Linux drivers than ATI does.
Supposedly pretty 'low'. The game has been in development for a while. But the demo rendering was done with a Radeon 9700 Pro, so a 9800 or 9600 variant should work. The importance of good OpenGL drivers can't be ignored though.
Up until now, the official quote from Id has been "when it's done". Other sources have hinted at release dates, but this is the first solid date that has been set by Id.
Your point is good, but remember that Microsoft is not any worse than everyone else, who leave WEP off by default or give you the exact same encryption options. And Microsoft networking equipment has security through ease of use-it's simple to configure security with the Microsoft product, but not necessarily so with some of their competitors.
No, Torvalds shouldn't be there-yet. And how about Von Neumann, Vint Cerf, Anfy Grove or Gordon Moore (pick one), and Ken Thompson? I'm not saying Torvalds doesn't deserve it, but some of these guys obviously deserve it more. As for bringing computing to the masses, I'd rather see Hewlett and Packard getting nods, but only because Wozniak and Jobs are conspicuously absent.
Bhatia was strangely missing. And if they could put Steve Case down they obviously could have put Wozniak and Jobs down (and Wozniak would have had a vote from me at least).
It's quite a list, here are the names and some of my annotations:
Howard Aiken
Paul Allen (Evil Candidate #1)
Marc Andreesson
John Perry Barlow (EFF co-founder)
Andy Bechtolsheim
John Blankenbaker
Len Bosack
Stewart Brand
Dan Bricklin (of VisiCalc fame)
Larry Brilliant
Steve Case (Evil Candidate #2)
Vint Cerf (who should have already been inducted)
James Clark
Larry Ellison
John Presper Eckert
Philo T. Farnsworth
Jay W. Forrester
Bob Frankston (also of VisiCalc)
William Gibson (what?)
Mike Godwin (also of EFF)
Andy Grove (Intel)
Johan Helsingius
William Hewlett (again, should have already been inducted years ago)
Reynold B. Johnson
Bill Joy
Alan Kay (Smalltalk, PARC)
Bob Kahn (TCP-IP pioneer)
Mitch Kapor (Lotus, EFF)
Charles F. Kettering (!)
Vinod Khosla
John Kilcullen
Len Kleinrock
Sandy Lerner
Joseph Licklider
John Mauchley (ENIAC)
Scott McNealy
Bob Metcalfe (3COM)
Halsey Minor
Gordon Moore (Intel, Moore's rule)
Ted Nelson
Robert Noyce (Intel)
Kenneth Olson
Adam Osborne
William Oughtred (Invented the slide rule!)
David Packard (see Hewlett)
John H. Patterson
Alexai Pazhitnov (Tetris)
George Philbrick
Larry Roberts
Alan Shugart
George Stibitz
Bjarne Stroustrup (C++)
Ken Thompson (UNIX, C)
Jonathan Titus
Ray Tomlinson
Linus Torvalds
Truong Trong Thi
John Von Neumann
Ted Waitt
John Warnock
Thomas J. Watson
Philip R. Zimmerman (PGP)
Konrad Zuse
You can vote for up to 5. There are just too many to really choose well. If Paul Allen or Steve Case get in I'll have to throw a temper tantrum. But there you go...
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Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 19.5). As if I were trolling...
How good is Lucent at playing nice with the OSS community? Been so long since I saw some of their stuff out on the market. Could be one way to improve their image, like Apple and IBM improved their images a bit when they adopted free or *nix software.
I do believe you mean re-release. And I would love to see them stop "coppying" the classics. Although seeing Godzilla with some better texture mapping, and maybe some shaders....
Probably not, but if you are working on an open source project, we're counting on you to make it faster and better than the hired hands at $COMPANY. That's what makes OSS what it is.
New Microshatter windows! They spontaneously shatter, allowing you to enjoy the deep blue sky (hereby trademarked as the Blue Screen of Delight)! Pick one up today! And another! And another....
$219.95 USD at Outward Sound. There are only two places to buy the thing in the US though-there and at Hammacher Schlemmer, like you mentioned. Definitely a very appealing toy, but I know *I* don't have $220 lying around right now.
Id games did tend to get a wealth of updates and official mods in the past, but even Carmack might tremble at the idea of spending so much time on writing co-op into PC. A game like DOOM 3 takes a lot of work, and the time that could go into writing co-op in could also be spent on Id's next project.
The exciting thing about the article is that it hints that the PC version is in "final lockdown." If that means the same thing in the gaming industry as it does in the enterprise software agency, Id is in the final stages of coding: making all the pieces fit together. Means we might finally see the game here in about 3-4 months (but, then again, maybe not).
You, sir, need to check your facts. ATI has graphic card drivers for Linux just like Nvidia does, binary and proprietary just like Nvidia. You can't compile them, but they work and word is they're quite good.
Not only that, but how much you want to bet that these ads will only work with Internet Explorer, and I (and many other Slashdot readers) can bypass them simply by firing Firefox up? And for those of us who use Powerbooks or put a Linux distro on our laptops, would that negate the ads as well? Guess we can wait-and-see.
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Note that I only recommended the Nvidia card for Linux ;)
BTW, I'm running a 9700 Pro in my box, and I'm not planning to upgrade anytime soon.
As for the release of the x800, here in San Diego it might take a while-it did with the 9700 and 9800. And no, I wouldn't upgrade video cards right now, just like I wouldn't upgrade cpu/mobos right now (waiting for AMD's new sockets and PCI-Express).
The 9800 is the top-of-the-line $500 ATI card. Roughly analogous to a 5900. A 9600 is a mid-line card, priced like a 5700 but with slightly better performance than one.
I'm probably biased, but if I were planning on running DOOM 3 on Windows, a 9600XT w/ 128MB of RAM would be my choice. If I were planning on the running the Linux version, a FX-5700 w/ 256MB would be great (not that the extra 128MB makes a difference, but I can't seem to find a 5700 locally without 256MB of RAM). The different choices reflect the fact that Nvidia has better Linux drivers than ATI does.
Supposedly pretty 'low'. The game has been in development for a while. But the demo rendering was done with a Radeon 9700 Pro, so a 9800 or 9600 variant should work. The importance of good OpenGL drivers can't be ignored though.
Up until now, the official quote from Id has been "when it's done". Other sources have hinted at release dates, but this is the first solid date that has been set by Id.
Your point is good, but remember that Microsoft is not any worse than everyone else, who leave WEP off by default or give you the exact same encryption options. And Microsoft networking equipment has security through ease of use-it's simple to configure security with the Microsoft product, but not necessarily so with some of their competitors.
No, Torvalds shouldn't be there-yet. And how about Von Neumann, Vint Cerf, Anfy Grove or Gordon Moore (pick one), and Ken Thompson? I'm not saying Torvalds doesn't deserve it, but some of these guys obviously deserve it more. As for bringing computing to the masses, I'd rather see Hewlett and Packard getting nods, but only because Wozniak and Jobs are conspicuously absent.
Steve Case is evil enough. And Gibson rounds out the "not really a nerd" category.
Bhatia was strangely missing. And if they could put Steve Case down they obviously could have put Wozniak and Jobs down (and Wozniak would have had a vote from me at least).
It's quite a list, here are the names and some of my annotations:
Howard Aiken
Paul Allen (Evil Candidate #1)
Marc Andreesson
John Perry Barlow (EFF co-founder)
Andy Bechtolsheim
John Blankenbaker
Len Bosack
Stewart Brand
Dan Bricklin (of VisiCalc fame)
Larry Brilliant
Steve Case (Evil Candidate #2)
Vint Cerf (who should have already been inducted)
James Clark
Larry Ellison
John Presper Eckert
Philo T. Farnsworth
Jay W. Forrester
Bob Frankston (also of VisiCalc)
William Gibson (what?)
Mike Godwin (also of EFF)
Andy Grove (Intel)
Johan Helsingius
William Hewlett (again, should have already been inducted years ago)
Reynold B. Johnson
Bill Joy
Alan Kay (Smalltalk, PARC)
Bob Kahn (TCP-IP pioneer)
Mitch Kapor (Lotus, EFF)
Charles F. Kettering (!)
Vinod Khosla
John Kilcullen
Len Kleinrock
Sandy Lerner
Joseph Licklider
John Mauchley (ENIAC)
Scott McNealy
Bob Metcalfe (3COM)
Halsey Minor
Gordon Moore (Intel, Moore's rule)
Ted Nelson
Robert Noyce (Intel)
Kenneth Olson
Adam Osborne
William Oughtred (Invented the slide rule!)
David Packard (see Hewlett)
John H. Patterson
Alexai Pazhitnov (Tetris)
George Philbrick
Larry Roberts
Alan Shugart
George Stibitz
Bjarne Stroustrup (C++)
Ken Thompson (UNIX, C)
Jonathan Titus
Ray Tomlinson
Linus Torvalds
Truong Trong Thi
John Von Neumann
Ted Waitt
John Warnock
Thomas J. Watson
Philip R. Zimmerman (PGP)
Konrad Zuse
You can vote for up to 5. There are just too many to really choose well. If Paul Allen or Steve Case get in I'll have to throw a temper tantrum. But there you go...
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As if I were trolling...
I would asssume that Google will just take that particular webpage off of their servers.
So what happens when everybody on this board starts hitting Slashdot's servers...
How good is Lucent at playing nice with the OSS community? Been so long since I saw some of their stuff out on the market. Could be one way to improve their image, like Apple and IBM improved their images a bit when they adopted free or *nix software.
It's a song lyric, go talk to Eddie Vedder;)
I do believe you mean re-release. And I would love to see them stop "coppying" the classics. Although seeing Godzilla with some better texture mapping, and maybe some shaders....
Punch Cards: All it takes is one family of mice...
Probably not, but if you are working on an open source project, we're counting on you to make it faster and better than the hired hands at $COMPANY. That's what makes OSS what it is.
New Microshatter windows! They spontaneously shatter, allowing you to enjoy the deep blue sky (hereby trademarked as the Blue Screen of Delight)! Pick one up today! And another! And another....
Whether college teaches you something you'll use or not, try getting hired in today's environment without a degree.
I used firefox and it gave me a correct key, and I got the e-mail about 15 minutes later. So the standard Mozilla questions:
1. What operating system are you working on?
2. Are you using a standard build or a nightly?
Standard build running on WinXP worked for me.
$219.95 USD at Outward Sound. There are only two places to buy the thing in the US though-there and at Hammacher Schlemmer, like you mentioned. Definitely a very appealing toy, but I know *I* don't have $220 lying around right now.
Damn right, that heat spreader on the die makes a big difference.
You point is excellent.
*cough* Halo PC *cough*
Id games did tend to get a wealth of updates and official mods in the past, but even Carmack might tremble at the idea of spending so much time on writing co-op into PC. A game like DOOM 3 takes a lot of work, and the time that could go into writing co-op in could also be spent on Id's next project.
The exciting thing about the article is that it hints that the PC version is in "final lockdown." If that means the same thing in the gaming industry as it does in the enterprise software agency, Id is in the final stages of coding: making all the pieces fit together. Means we might finally see the game here in about 3-4 months (but, then again, maybe not).
You, sir, need to check your facts. ATI has graphic card drivers for Linux just like Nvidia does, binary and proprietary just like Nvidia. You can't compile them, but they work and word is they're quite good.
Not only that, but how much you want to bet that these ads will only work with Internet Explorer, and I (and many other Slashdot readers) can bypass them simply by firing Firefox up? And for those of us who use Powerbooks or put a Linux distro on our laptops, would that negate the ads as well? Guess we can wait-and-see.