They had requested the same level of rights pre 9-11. Using 9-11 as the moment they decided they wanted the powers is a lie. They wanted them and were told no many times. (-11 was convenient in scaring people enough to give up their privacy.
The key word being SOME. If it is only a small insignificant portion, why not make that data... you know the personal and identifying data inaccessible. No one here is claiming it is all personal data, you are making it a false argument, that it is either irrelevant due to its small amount of the total being shared, or that it can't be uncoupled easily and respectfully from the rest.
I think it is attempting to remove the light as a source of distance measuring and using the point cloud to assist in making the models more accurate, but more so applying logic to the point clouds for actual surface generation vs doing it manually based off of a point cloud. This should make photogrammetry the preferrable method.
I use a FARO scanner at times, and it attempts to do something similar. However they don't remotely attempt to make a solid out of the images. So it is either point cloud or not on the export. Within the Apps you can use both views and measure etc, but not being exportable to a true polygon isn't an option at the moment so people tend to take it to solid works or Rhino and make it manually.
You can get decent 3D modelling off of ortho with consistent overlap etc. But it isn't great yet. I assume this is going to be more powerful. The new invention of LIDAR-Lite (Google it) for a 90 dollar sensor that has about 130 feet of accuracy will allow for the careful measuring to be applied to the photographs to help make them more accurate. So the ability to pre program an ortho mapping with better results might make these more powerful for smaller verticals.
I might be wrong but I believe they are concurrently using lidar, and the lidar point cloud is used to help facilitate the actual photogrammetry process. Where differing points in the point cloud are interpreted to help make a geometric vs a point cloud model based off of the images. This could goa very long way in helping convert a point cloud of accurate measurments into actual useable and reasonably accurate 3d models for BIM/Farming/Mapping etc. The map produced is very much a 3d model generated from the combo of 2d images with known points of measurement and the corresponding point cloud. If they have solved this big time consuming mess of a problem the mapping/GIS/BIM world will be altered significantly.
When I was there two years ago, Eric was the man in the van. I tried to explain to my 12 year old nephew who it was that had just given him a 2600 tshirt for free, and who Kevin Mitnick was.
and self reliance and self definition? It is always the larger world that wronged someone, or coerced them to act in ways they never would have on their own? Maybe just maybe we need men and women looking at themselves and deciding for themselves what and who they want to be without societal influences bending our wills one way or another. If it is societies fault/influence does it matter if a man or women isn't coding or breast feeding? They've lost the only battle that matters which is free thought.
Google it yourself. If you have something to bring to the table and offer, then please do, and perhaps I'll consider helping you. I'm not baited or interested in your simplistic and lazy two word and canned response. Tell me I'm wrong.
" Now if only Google would put some time into improving Gmail because their web based product sucks ass."
Hmm... Who makes a superior web based email/calendar system? What secret sauce would you bring in that solves your problems with the gmail service, which doesn't add complexity or confusion to the rest of the planet?
Fact: MS has been fined for selling (illegally) personal and identifying information of users to political parties in the US. Fact: Win 8.1 is a giant step in tying a cloud service/tracking account for all that you now do in their OS, and to boot, the backdoors built in for the NSA are also usable by the black hats of the world. Fact: Google doesn't sell your data, they serve ads. Your data is never known to an advertiser, ever, by anything supplied to them via Google.
You might want to ask yourself why even in the Enterprise, MS tries to foist upon you personally identifying information. so they can track app uses/web c alls made by applications, and send them all to MS for collection.
I think more likely what occurs is that they need to be extremely careful about false positives. So they push everything into a SPAM folder. But if you miss a critical email because Google accidentally thought something was spam when it wasn't, then Hello lawsuits. From a legal perspective, blocking anything going into their inboxen is a risk.
We were discussing a single portion of css 3 in this matter it was gradients. You can use chromium and not suffer the privacy concerns. Somehow I think you bringing that up though hints more to the reason that you find IE anf FF to be the only good browsers. If you think IE doesn't spy on you and that it is secure then keep on telling yourself that.
How many years did Microsoft drag its feet on supporting.png and transparency? How long before it truly supported CSS? yeah IE and Firefox are still the only good browsers out there. Especially if you don't care about security.
These are on the streets and being used to illegally search innocent civilians, but hey it is all fine and good if they catch the "bad guys"... Maybe you don't pay attention but American citizens have rapidly become the bad guys in the eyes of our government.
Why would this cause problems? the number of uses here are incredible in business fields such as Construction/Engineering/BIM/Architecture/mapping/3d Modelling and gaming.
Does your son get sued for taking a photograph of his toys? Would he get sued for taking several photographs of his toys? Would he get sued for taking a video of his toys?
That damn video might show the dimensions of the objects.
Why does it need to be an everyday thing? Most smart phone users don't take photographs every day, but they put the camera on there nonetheless. Most people don't use Bluetooth every day, but they put it on the device anyway.
The uses here are for generating 3d objects for games, video, or just for shits n' giggles. From the perspective of engineering this is an incredibly useful feature when doing a primary walk through pre bid on a project.
At some point the idea of a flat 2D photo will give way to 3d photogrpahy/photogrammetry/
We see this differently I suppose. I'll trust the interpretation of Ellesberg over your Telecom insight. If you think lying to Congress, and propaganda campaigns to ensure enough fear/support of this surveillance. You might be alright with the lying and the slight of hand three card monty word games they play, but I personally am not. If you've been aware of all of this for 15 years and the best you can say about it, is that it embarrassed the US government, then you have apparently decided that it is all OK, and in the best interests of civilians to trade peace for the lie of security. That is your path, not mine. There is nothing good in a surveillance state for the citizens being controlled... The second you suggest that exposing this to the public is a bad thing then you are actually part of the problem. You are they.
Snowden seems organized, thoughtful and intelligent. He did openly state that he challenged anyone in the NSA to deny he tried to use the internal systems first to seek resolution. He can likely reveal his efforts rather easily and publicly. However propaganda doesn't require honesty on behalf of the NSA to be successful.
Perhaps actually reading into the subject at hand, and thinking about what you say might help with you getting a clearer picture. One mans weasel traitor is another mans whistleblower. Name a whistleblower the intelligence apparatus in the US hasn't condemned?
If anything I see it getting integrated into more places for enterprise use. Google Apps with Google Voice for employees and using a closed Google+ for an intranet would be very appealing along with video conferencing etc.
Because it doesn't affect the person searching if Google's results don't show correctly the most popular results, it affects the company being pushed down the rankings - and the person searching is the person with decision-making power.
Of course it affects Google and the person searching if their results aren't the most useful results. People use and used Google because it gives the most relevant results for searches in the most easily usable manner thus far. If Google put shit results in the search page, then people would immediately go elsewhere as the friction/effort has increased to get the correct results. Google's entire business model is predicated on search relevance. That is why they beat the paid model that Yahoo and everyone else were using. Also there is no such thing as the most popular result. There never has been. The results were always from day one decided on by a Google algorithm based off ranking metrics that they defined. The same is true for Bing or any other search engine,. The results are all interpretive. That is the only way a search engine can exist. Google does not always promote their own services first. Search app store and the iOS app store is the first organic result. Bing could buy and ad and show up near the top as well, and so can Google or Verizon or Amazon...
It is a paid advertisement, followed by another paid ad for Verizonwireless app store. Organically I get the Apple iOS App store, and the next link is the OSX App store for Mavericks. SO If Google gave themselves an organic first result they'd be "Evil", and if they buy an ad to promote their own service, then they are Evil. The only way for Google to not be Evil is to completely ignore the end user and their own platform in the search.
Note when I do the same search for app store via Android, the same results are there. Considering the app store search from an Android device is significantly less likely to be concerned with the Apple App store, then you'd expect the results to promote the Play store, and they still don't./ What does Google need to do for horse shit commentators like you to be considered fair? From what I've seen they are damned for anything they do...
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They had requested the same level of rights pre 9-11. Using 9-11 as the moment they decided they wanted the powers is a lie. They wanted them and were told no many times. (-11 was convenient in scaring people enough to give up their privacy.
Does this mean Bill Gates is putting his money into solving/curing cancer?
The key word being SOME. If it is only a small insignificant portion, why not make that data... you know the personal and identifying data inaccessible. No one here is claiming it is all personal data, you are making it a false argument, that it is either irrelevant due to its small amount of the total being shared, or that it can't be uncoupled easily and respectfully from the rest.
I think it is attempting to remove the light as a source of distance measuring and using the point cloud to assist in making the models more accurate, but more so applying logic to the point clouds for actual surface generation vs doing it manually based off of a point cloud. This should make photogrammetry the preferrable method.
I use a FARO scanner at times, and it attempts to do something similar. However they don't remotely attempt to make a solid out of the images. So it is either point cloud or not on the export. Within the Apps you can use both views and measure etc, but not being exportable to a true polygon isn't an option at the moment so people tend to take it to solid works or Rhino and make it manually.
You can get decent 3D modelling off of ortho with consistent overlap etc. But it isn't great yet. I assume this is going to be more powerful. The new invention of LIDAR-Lite (Google it) for a 90 dollar sensor that has about 130 feet of accuracy will allow for the careful measuring to be applied to the photographs to help make them more accurate. So the ability to pre program an ortho mapping with better results might make these more powerful for smaller verticals.
I might be wrong but I believe they are concurrently using lidar, and the lidar point cloud is used to help facilitate the actual photogrammetry process. Where differing points in the point cloud are interpreted to help make a geometric vs a point cloud model based off of the images. This could goa very long way in helping convert a point cloud of accurate measurments into actual useable and reasonably accurate 3d models for BIM/Farming/Mapping etc. The map produced is very much a 3d model generated from the combo of 2d images with known points of measurement and the corresponding point cloud. If they have solved this big time consuming mess of a problem the mapping /GIS/BIM world will be altered significantly.
When I was there two years ago, Eric was the man in the van. I tried to explain to my 12 year old nephew who it was that had just given him a 2600 tshirt for free, and who Kevin Mitnick was.
and self reliance and self definition? It is always the larger world that wronged someone, or coerced them to act in ways they never would have on their own? Maybe just maybe we need men and women looking at themselves and deciding for themselves what and who they want to be without societal influences bending our wills one way or another. If it is societies fault/influence does it matter if a man or women isn't coding or breast feeding? They've lost the only battle that matters which is free thought.
Google it yourself. If you have something to bring to the table and offer, then please do, and perhaps I'll consider helping you. I'm not baited or interested in your simplistic and lazy two word and canned response. Tell me I'm wrong.
" Now if only Google would put some time into improving Gmail because their web based product sucks ass."
Hmm... Who makes a superior web based email/calendar system? What secret sauce would you bring in that solves your problems with the gmail service, which doesn't add complexity or confusion to the rest of the planet?
Fact: MS has been fined for selling (illegally) personal and identifying information of users to political parties in the US.
Fact: Win 8.1 is a giant step in tying a cloud service/tracking account for all that you now do in their OS, and to boot, the backdoors built in for the NSA are also usable by the black hats of the world.
Fact: Google doesn't sell your data, they serve ads. Your data is never known to an advertiser, ever, by anything supplied to them via Google.
You might want to ask yourself why even in the Enterprise, MS tries to foist upon you personally identifying information. so they can track app uses/web c alls made by applications, and send them all to MS for collection.
I think more likely what occurs is that they need to be extremely careful about false positives. So they push everything into a SPAM folder. But if you miss a critical email because Google accidentally thought something was spam when it wasn't, then Hello lawsuits. From a legal perspective, blocking anything going into their inboxen is a risk.
We were discussing a single portion of css 3 in this matter it was gradients. You can use chromium and not suffer the privacy concerns. Somehow I think you bringing that up though hints more to the reason that you find IE anf FF to be the only good browsers. If you think IE doesn't spy on you and that it is secure then keep on telling yourself that.
How many years did Microsoft drag its feet on supporting .png and transparency? How long before it truly supported CSS? yeah IE and Firefox are still the only good browsers out there. Especially if you don't care about security.
These are on the streets and being used to illegally search innocent civilians, but hey it is all fine and good if they catch the "bad guys"... Maybe you don't pay attention but American citizens have rapidly become the bad guys in the eyes of our government.
Why would this cause problems? the number of uses here are incredible in business fields such as Construction/Engineering/BIM/Architecture/mapping/3d Modelling and gaming.
Does your son get sued for taking a photograph of his toys? Would he get sued for taking several photographs of his toys?
Would he get sued for taking a video of his toys?
That damn video might show the dimensions of the objects.
Why does it need to be an everyday thing? Most smart phone users don't take photographs every day, but they put the camera on there nonetheless.
Most people don't use Bluetooth every day, but they put it on the device anyway.
The uses here are for generating 3d objects for games, video, or just for shits n' giggles. From the perspective of engineering this is an incredibly useful feature when doing a primary walk through pre bid on a project.
At some point the idea of a flat 2D photo will give way to 3d photogrpahy/photogrammetry/
That or they take the USB key carrying their wallet with them to a visit outside the country.
We see this differently I suppose. I'll trust the interpretation of Ellesberg over your Telecom insight. If you think lying to Congress, and propaganda campaigns to ensure enough fear/support of this surveillance. You might be alright with the lying and the slight of hand three card monty word games they play, but I personally am not. If you've been aware of all of this for 15 years and the best you can say about it, is that it embarrassed the US government, then you have apparently decided that it is all OK, and in the best interests of civilians to trade peace for the lie of security. That is your path, not mine. There is nothing good in a surveillance state for the citizens being controlled... The second you suggest that exposing this to the public is a bad thing then you are actually part of the problem. You are they.
Snowden seems organized, thoughtful and intelligent. He did openly state that he challenged anyone in the NSA to deny he tried to use the internal systems first to seek resolution. He can likely reveal his efforts rather easily and publicly. However propaganda doesn't require honesty on behalf of the NSA to be successful.
Perhaps actually reading into the subject at hand, and thinking about what you say might help with you getting a clearer picture. One mans weasel traitor is another mans whistleblower. Name a whistleblower the intelligence apparatus in the US hasn't condemned?
If anything I see it getting integrated into more places for enterprise use. Google Apps with Google Voice for employees and using a closed Google+ for an intranet would be very appealing along with video conferencing etc.
Because it doesn't affect the person searching if Google's results don't show correctly the most popular results, it affects the company being pushed down the rankings - and the person searching is the person with decision-making power.
Of course it affects Google and the person searching if their results aren't the most useful results. People use and used Google because it gives the most relevant results for searches in the most easily usable manner thus far. If Google put shit results in the search page, then people would immediately go elsewhere as the friction/effort has increased to get the correct results. Google's entire business model is predicated on search relevance. That is why they beat the paid model that Yahoo and everyone else were using.
Also there is no such thing as the most popular result. There never has been. The results were always from day one decided on by a Google algorithm based off ranking metrics that they defined. The same is true for Bing or any other search engine,. The results are all interpretive. That is the only way a search engine can exist. Google does not always promote their own services first. Search app store and the iOS app store is the first organic result. Bing could buy and ad and show up near the top as well, and so can Google or Verizon or Amazon...
It is a paid advertisement, followed by another paid ad for Verizonwireless app store. Organically I get the Apple iOS App store, and the next link is the OSX App store for Mavericks. SO If Google gave themselves an organic first result they'd be "Evil", and if they buy an ad to promote their own service, then they are Evil. The only way for Google to not be Evil is to completely ignore the end user and their own platform in the search.
Note when I do the same search for app store via Android, the same results are there. Considering the app store search from an Android device is significantly less likely to be concerned with the Apple App store, then you'd expect the results to promote the Play store, and they still don't./ What does Google need to do for horse shit commentators like you to be considered fair? From what I've seen they are damned for anything they do...
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