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Putin To Discuss Plans For Disconnecting Russia From the Internet
New submitter GlowingCat writes: Russian President Vladimir Putin and several high-ranking officials will discuss the security of the Russian segment of the Internet at the meeting of the Russian Security Council next week. According to various reports, the officials will make a number of decisions about regulating the use of the Internet in Russia. This includes the ability to cut off the Russian Internet, known as Runet, from the outside world, in case of emergency.
I call dibs on their IP blocks!
In the case of Russia, the ability to obtain non-vetted or embarrassing information (like invading Ukraine) constitutes an emergency.
Please disconnect .RU from the internet. Spam and hacking down %25 in one whack
... every multiplayer game experience would improve overnight if they did this.
Captcha: Repress
Internet disconnects YOU!
Yeah sure they will comunicate with their international parters using VPN technology. And goodbye well written posts from russian hacking forums.
He would be doing the world a favor by removing a very large number of hackers, phishers and virus kiddies from the net.
Please cut them off as soon as possible!!
... now who's going to steal my credit card number?
they would've simply set up their own version of the internet, the Cosmonet. All of the iron curtain countries would be connected.
Gosh I miss the old days.
If this ever comes about, it would being about the hobbling of LiveJournal. Sure, its servers are in the States, but its management is in Moscow, and (if the Russian State does sever its connection to the Internet) unable to reach them.
--- Andy West http://andywest.org
But...how could we cope without all the botnet controllers, spam gateways, compromised .ru servers, and all the other wonderful users coming out of Russia? I agree that this could be very interesting if he did this; we could see the real impact of Russia's criminal internet community. The net might work better for awhile without .ru
No more car crash videos =/
At least there won't be as many Russians on Dota 2.
...I still wait for an answer, Mr Putin !
They control all of the root traffic across the internet so they could not only shut down the entire internet but close off the US portion of the internet anytime they wanted. In fact, I believe there was a similar story about Obama wanting to be sure that he could "shutdown" the internet in an emergency.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
as soon as i heard this I thought of that geenie joke from the boondock saints...
...IT guy goes, "You mean to tell me Russia is off the Internet?"
Genie goes, "Yeah."
He says, "Well, um, I'll have a Coke, then."
THL phish sticks
...makes a hell of a lot of sense, because NSA-GCHQ have tons of exploits for all U.S. designed digital
systems. Top management of NSA and the corpos conspire to keep everything shittily insecure.
Its the American World Domination Complex.
Where are the Russian processors, OSs, routers ? Or are the Russians still as cheap as the Communists ?
And disconnect them from this end? If he doesn't want us, why should we offer ourselves up to him?
excitingthingstodo.blogspot.com
In case of emergency
Emergency for Putin or Russian citizens? I can't think of any possible scenario which can be called an emergency where I personally would benefit from having _less_ information.
I'm disgusted that people like Putin are actually of the same species as myself.
What happens to the block chain if the network is split, as in this case?
`echo $[0x853204FA81]|tr 0-9 ionbsdeaml`@gmail.com
...andnothingofvaluewaslost... it was invented for this kind of news. See ya Russia!
While I'd love to imagine the hilarity that would ensue if Russia were to attempt to completely disconnect the internet in order to run their own entirely isolated private one, I doubt this is in reality what would happen. Even if they managed to keep most or all of their population from getting traffic from international social/news networks in, I have the sneaking suspicion that somehow the SPAM would still find its way out.
A large percentage of the attacks on my servers seem to come from Russia. As far as Russia itself is concerned, this fellow is nothing but an ex-KGB thug; an anachronism from the Cold War years who refuses to acknowledge that he is ridiculously obsolete, but who will not hesitate to fuck the Russian people in order to cling to power.
25? I guess you're falling short there.
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO
We have talked about this before for the US.
Looking out there at other countries use of this sort of power, the only thing it's ever been used for is to crush political opposition including peaceful protests, and to hide government abuse at the time it's happening.
So I guess Russias enemies have never had the idea to simply have compromised servers/equipment inside the Russian border... Oh No! I just gave it away! Russia's doomed!
it's your retarted, idiot.
I sure am happy that I stopped using the Agnitum Outpost firewall on my PCs a few months back. I didn't like having Russian-developed software in such a critical spot on my PCs, especially with Mr. Putin's irrational sabre-rattling. Now, with the possibility of Russia being taken off the internet, my decision looks even better.
First Iran and now Russia. Pretty soon all these tyrannical hell holes will be cut off. Enjoy your fetid lives in your dark little backwater nations. We'll be careful not to be 'imperialist' and interfere with you.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
China more or less manages that, only they still allow limited access to the outside. You'd be surprised what an entire nation can do, if it puts it mind to it.
From chernenko@kremvax.UUCP Sun Apr 1 15:02:52 1984
...{decvax,philabs}!mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko
Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site mcvax.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 4/1/84 (SU840401); site kremvax.UUCP
Path: mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko
From: chernenko@kremvax.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.general,eunet.general,net.politics,eunet.politics
Subject: USSR on Usenet
Message-ID:
Date: Sun, 1-Apr-84 15:02:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: kremvax.0001
Posted: Sun Apr 1 15:02:52 1984
Date-Received: Mon, 1-Apr-84 12:26:02 GMT
Organization: MIIA, Moscow
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Well, today, 840401, this is at last the Socialist Union of Soviet Republics joining the Usenet network and saying hallo to everybody.
One reason for us to join this network has been to have a means of having an open discussion forum with the American and European people and making clear to them our strong efforts towards attaining peaceful coexistence between the people of the Soviet Union and those of the United States and Europe.
We have been informed that on this network many people have given strong anti-Russian opinions, but we believe they have been misguided by their leaders, especially the American administration, who is seeking for war and domination of the world. By well informing those people from our side we hope to have a possibility to make clear to them our intentions and ideas.
Some of those in the Western world, who believe in the truth of what we say have made possible our entry on this network; to them we are very grateful. We hereby invite you to freely give your comments and opinions.
Here are the data for our backbone site:
Name: moskvax
Organization: Moscow Institute for International Affairs
Contact: K. Chernenko
Phone: +7 095 840401
Postal-Address: Moscow, Soviet Union
Electronic-Address: mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko
News: mcvax kremvax kgbvax
Mail: mcvax kremvax kgbvax
And now, let's open a flask of Vodka and have a drink on our entry on this network. So:
NA ZDAROVJE!
-- K. Chernenko, Moscow, USSR
this is the trend that will ultimately spread and collapse the internet by 2020. the NSA will be cited as the number one reason why global trust ultimately failed. The next internet will be forged by china and russia alliance and will be unreachable from this side of the planet.
no, its yore redarded, moran.
"In case of emergency" ?
So you mean when they are doing something so horribly wrong to their people they want to prevent the rest of the world to know about it?
Because there's literally no emergency that would ever require cutting the internet. In fact, it's the complete opposite, you should have the internet in case of emergency.
Code name project Iron Curtain to be administered by the Ministry of Truth.
... like the Russian populace becoming too educated to put up with him any more.
"I want one too!" - Putin
Hey, anyone think these world leaders got the sudden urge to have these things after seeing the first episode of Black Mirror? XD
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
"devices capable of emitting electromagnetic radiations"
Does this mean they'll confiscate the alternator on my car? And what about my brain?!
No, it means they "can" not that they 'will".
They're unlikely to expend the effort only capable of broadcasting gibberish or noise so both your alternator and brain are probably safe.
That's one way to keep Russian script kiddies away.
In (Soviet) Russia, you don't surf Internet, Internet sErfs? you?
Nope, it most certainly is not.
All I can see here is the Soviet Union rising again. I grew up around the fringes (outside) and somehow it seems worse this time around.
Want a laugh? The Scottish Referendum and the Soviet observers are mouthing off that the whole affair was not "free and fair", that it had been manipulated.
This Vlad is sick of this garbage. Oh, and I was in the Ukraine a couple of months back. They have a right-wing lunatic fringe running at around 5% but most of them do not deserve this crud.
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect.
People forget how much we depend on the internet for basic things. (Writing from a USA perspective).
Without the internet, suddenly all the Cisco phones can't check in daily. The windows computers freeze up during windows update (imagine if he flips the switch *during* an update), cash registers can't authenticate credit cards, most iPhone apps fail (maps!)...
Is Russia as internet-dependent as we are?
Without R'ing TFA, I am absolutely certain that this involves a shirtless Putin, a tiger, and tactical nukes destroying "teh interwebs". Survivors will be given a free polonium sandwich!
I'm already blocking *.ru and entire IP blocks assigned to russia at the firewall.
If they want to have their own internet with hookers and blackjack... have at it!
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
Their DNS root and primary router will be KREMVAX.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
If there's anybody who can create--or prevent--an emergency, it would be Vladimir "Poon-tang" Putin.
A lot of the child pornography we see comes from servers in Russia. Most of the spam we get comes from servers in Russia. Now, wouldn't it be nice if Russia cuts itself off the internet?
no, I don't have a sig
... we just disconnected Russia from the Internet right now?
IPV6
Who knew.
They really should just rename themselves back to USSR, or maybe Putin's World.
We're a bit fed-up with what your loyal subjects have been doing with the Internet.
In any case, the Romanians want to do more hacking, but you guys are holding them back.
I think this is Exactly what Darpa had in mind when starting the Internet, route around breaks in sanity
The Republic of Texas has its own power grid. I've heard rumors in the distance past that they have the ability to isolate their phone lines. I see no reason to doubt that they kept up with the times when it comes to the Internet.
Of course... it's just a rumor.
yo're is a contraction yo
No, it means they "can" not that they 'will".
No... it means they say they can. They cannot legally confiscate property without due process contrary to the 5th amendment.
All I can see here is the Soviet Union rising again. I grew up around the fringes (outside) and somehow it seems worse this time around.
Except for the Communism, there's no communism this time, that's what the EAU, CSTO and SCO are all about, and it's a glorious sight to behold.
Your "Soviet" observers do raise some valid points though. An election or referendum in Russia, Crimea, Luhansk/Donnetsk, Iran, or any non-NATO aligned country with that kind of turnout would be instantly attacked by Western media and observers, you all know it. If we're going to complain about transparent boxes (like it makes a fucking difference when the ballot is folded up), then they're allowed to complain about the size of the room, even if only to show us how fucking abjectly idiotic we've been.
Most Russians that I see on EVE Online are mining and PVE bots. I think the economy will be just fine.
Buck Feta. You know what to do.
Well, that would runet...
Imagine how much less spamming and hacking we'll have! No more Russian brides. Yeah!
It always was a pain solo hunting in ruskie space. Whenever someone with a negative rating jumped into a system the bots were set to warp to a safe spot. So sad to see 20 characters in local and know that not a single one was being controlled by a human. ED took advantage of that for awhile by sending noob alts on tour through red alliance space to disrupt their botting operations. It would make them so mad but there was hardly anyone on their side online to track down and kill the frigates.
Where are modpoints when you need them. This is an historic posting that needs at least 5 positive.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
All I can see here is the Soviet Union rising again.
I'd say this is more like the rise of Imperial Russia again than the USSR. Russia has always had a chip on its shoulder concerning the rest of Europe. Not that the USSR was that much different from Imperial Russia.
In what country?
In my country, that bastion of freedom known as the USA, they simply take your fucking money and your property whenever they want, just by saying you got it from drugs. It doesn't matter if it's illegal, or contrary to the 5th amendment, because that's just a stupid old piece of paper. And besides, they get to decide what words mean.
no, its "no its you're tarded more on", rejk
That way we can all take a fucking break... FROM THEIR BULLSHIT!
Thanks!
"Get off my red lawn!"
Table-ized A.I.
Are you chicken?!?!?! KOT KOT KOT! Putin is a pussy, can't even disconnect the Russia from the net!
The funnest job in the world would be to create fake front sites for dictatorial countries. For example, I'd make "CNN.com" grab content from onion.com, and stupid.com content would be used to fill up "Amazon.com".
In "1984", the main character's job was to re-write history with fake BS. He seemed fairly content at that job until he took the proverbial red pill.
Table-ized A.I.
Here, I'll help you. Should have highlighted this part:
Upon proclamation by the President that there exists war or a threat of war,
He does this every time he's in front of the damned camera.
Russians know they're the white trash of Europe and overcompensate accordingly.
How long have you been reading here? Have you noticed NO trends in how propaganda works? How many of you were crying "rah rah" when the U.S. rolled into Iraq based on exactly this kind of propaganda?
A damned lot of you, that's how many.
But live and learn, right? Emphasis on LEARN
From the article:
You idiots. The world is doomed because too few of you have learned how to think.
Fiction becomes reality.
mouse.net time for mouse.net
Where will we get the endless stream of videos of people hurting themselves doing foolish things? That's a pretty big share of the internet right there!
Says the white trash of the planet.
for every country to do this - in case of a massive cyber-attack - to make provisions and plans for that country to secede from the internet. please note i use the word secede very seriously and with very little exaggeration.
the majority of businesses in the developed world already depend on the internet to do business. as globalization continues and cross-country business increases, the economies of the individual nations of the world become even more interdependent on each other and VERY dependent on the internet. at some point, some future putin realizes that 80% of the world's (or a particular country's) internet traffic (and therefore business) is routing through one particular little country that, otherwise, seems insignificant. see the risks? who can manage the internet to ensure that some point of vulnerability like this does not develop?
all of our lives, we have worried that some country might gain control of 80% of the world's oil. it's quite an amusing thought that armageddon may one day be fought, not for oil, but for the freaking internet!
Finally!
Which does raise the obvious question: why do we use the current internet at all? Before '94 it was just interesting people on the internet.
When the great unwashed started using it.. well.. I got some cables and ran them between my friends houses. .. and.. why do we insist on letting ICANN run things.. we don't need to.. a secondary net (besides TOR) can run without others interference.
DNS NG FTW.
Shall I set up a new root DNS system now?
There has been recent discussion about the President of the US having the same power at his own personel discretion. So the Russkies are playing catch up with the peace and freedom loving republic of America. I can't remember if there was some specfic leagal frame work or just FREEDOM because you know TERRORISTS ISLAM JIHAD.
and often when the police's case falls apart and ends in a non-conviction they keep your stuff anyway. "Civil forfeiture" should be considered unconstitutional...if we moved back in time to the Colonial days this is the EXACT same thing the British were doing that lead to the War of Independence. Illegal seizures, no viable recourse, stealing property without rule of law or real proof of wrong-doing...when a DA does "civil forfeiture" they are considering the "property" itself guilty, as if your house or car has a intelligent consciousness that knows the difference between right and wrong and could have chosen not to be involved somehow. It costs at least $10K to take it to court, so the cops know if they take less than that it's not worth it. And since your property is being charged (not you) then it's considered "guilty until proven innocent", you have to pay for the lawyer, and you have to meet a higher standard of proving absolutely no drugs were ever involved (even before you owned it)
PBS article
its your retarded, moran.
yeah, they won't bother confiscating either of them, because that means they need to store them, track them, etc..
they probably will prefer to just disable both items from generating EMR going forward.
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
I read the articles pointed to by this, IMHO, sensationalized excerpt. From my perspective, this is not unlike a group of hospital administrators deciding it would be a good idea to install a generator system in order to maintain power during a grid outage and then taking action to make that backup system a reality.
The internet is an important part of the infrastructure in many countries including Russia. Can you imagine being a country the size of Russia and having the backbone of your communication systems potentially taken over by or at least partially shut down by the US and its allies just because you've stepped off the line the US is currently expecting you to walk?
It pains me to see ZERO posts considering this perspective. Perhaps most of those were moderated down by the all-wise and that is why I don't see them.
I remember reading another article out here on /. recently which left the (at least on the surface totally inaccurate) impression that Putin was threatening nuclear war with the US over the current disagreement and finally after reading so many Putin and Russia-bashing posts, I got to one posting the original context from which Putin's statement was taken. What a refreshing change of pace reading that article was.
I don't know Putin well enough to judge him but I've met a few Russians in my day that I will always love. They are real people and they too deserve to be protected by their leadership. Maybe like Americans, they also need to be protected from their leadership but I think this attempt to preserve their ability to use the internet to communicate in isolation if necessary is a poor example of that condition.
Peace and good will to you!
What about my retarded?
They are lucky they have not done this to some gun nut. Proof: No police offers or district attorneys are dead yet.
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
retarted?
you mean he's been tarted again?