I never said there weren't alternatives to the apps I mentioned, I did however say forget everything you knew. When you don't know, you use what you have at work (Office), or what the sales person says. People are told they need Office so they ask for a system that runs Office. People know QuickBooks, and it works with their banks so they ask for a system that runs QuickBooks, in both cases they never asked for an alternative, they asked for Windows.
If these succeed... Thats one really big if. The first question thats going to be asked is, "What version of Windows?" If this is just a test and they don't intend to keep it as an option, you won't see Linux based Systems in Wal-Mart any time soon.
Since I said what I said, I asked people I came across, If you were going to ditch windows what would you choose, a Mac or Linux. None of these people work with computers, most don't like them. The answer was universally they would choose a Mac. Even with the cost, a Mac. When you don't know what people around here know, Linux is not an option right now And yes several of the people I asked have used Linux, they said it was nice, they still chose the Mac.
I personally have a lot of respect for the OpenBSD team, and the pf developers in particular, some time in the next week I'll be replacing my little Linksys with a OpenBSD pf firewall, and when I sat down to write the rules for it, it was amazing and appreciated how simple it is to write the rules, and that they're understandable at the same time. Comparing it to iptables that I saw once, the ease of writing the pf rules would have been enough for me to switch over. They also have that reputation thats not bad either.
Well would people run an Expensive x86 based OS or a free x86 based OS? Mac hardware isn't that much more expensive then x86 hardware with the same capabilities, and you pay half the cost for OS upgrades between versions. Office runs on the Mac, along with a number of other important pieces of software. On top of that, Mac's look a lot better, which is important to some people. So I would still be shocked, SHOCKED!, (yes, I really mean that shocked), if your average user chose Linux over a Mac.
So sick in fact they don't care. Thats right, they don't care. Its just a tool, and Windows is the tool that runs everything.
Users don't turn around and say, "To hell with MS and they're security holes, I'm not gonna put up with DRM." They just don't care, they use the OS that runs software. They need QuickBooks, they want their games, so they use Windows, not because its the best techinical solution, but its the only one.
Before you type again about how every little stumble MS makes is "Linux's time," forget EVERYTHING you know about computers, DRM, DMCA, and just about everything else thats discussed here. Now your not a programmer or an admin, your just an average user. You need QuickBooks, you want to play the latest game, you need Office. You will run only one OS, Windows. Linux and the MacOS will never cross your mind, and if it did the sales person will tell you, I'm sorry no that game or that software only runs on Windows, and you'll put it out of your mind.
So no this little thing is not Linux's time. MS could turn around and call their users all sorts of names and use endless strings of profanity and people will still use Windows. And lastly, even if this did cause MS users to jump ship, it wouldn't be to Linux distros. 'User' distros have tried to make a user-friendly Unix like OS and have been for ages, but Apple beat them too the punch. If people are going to leave Windows, its going to be to the next best supported desktop OS, and thats OS X, not Linux.
Um, why? Why would I spend the time working with a partial implementation of Java, when I can download the complete Java from Sun and use it? Along with the argument of 'What possible benefit would Sun have in open sourceing Java' I really have to say 'Of what benefit to me is an OSS Java?' Considering I can't be all that different from a whole group of people, of what real benefit is there to Open Java, either the current Java from Sun or a Java implementation from someone else?
Well thank you for falling into the rhetoric supplied by your government. You make a fine American, never questioning, always assuming that the evils your told that are ever looming are responsible for everything bad that happens. 15 or so years ago, you would have been wondering if it was a communist plot to take down America.
What on earth are you smoking man. NT4 was released in '96, and had minimum sys req of a 486/33 with 32mb ram. Now my math isn't great but it seems to me that 32 is a hell of a lot less then 256. 256MB on a desktop system in '96 would have been unheard of. And on a side note, 98 runs just fine in 32mb ram as well, if you had 128 you were laughing.
Well the first thought I had was he put a PC in a mainframe style case and called it Heavy metal as a change to big iron. I am very disappointed, and almost have an idea.
At which point you would have RMS crying that its not compatible with the GPL, and all the little people that hang on his every word would declare Java evil and would go on a crusade to try and convince everyone not to program in Java.
In short the only thing that would change is Sun no longer has control of Java, so what was the point.
Yes a lot of Americans think they're Irish, and polish, and where ever their family came from 100 years ago. Its almost like they're embarrassed to be called American.
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How is it getting sillier? Because they increment it once a year when there wasn't a hole that year, or are you just so used to using something else that you just cant believe that something goes longer then a month without a catastrophic security hole.
Where an alien life form that lived a few centimeters under the sand of a planet the Federation was in the process of terraforming began to fight back. They refered to everyone they talked to as an "Ugly bag of mostly water." Once again, why did they choose this name, which has nothing to do with Klingons.
It didn't crash the system because of an invalid XF86Config file, it crashed because he tried to start X one a Serial Console, you can't do that.
As far as the MySQL problem, its very well known and has been in OpenBSD for some time, the MySQL Manual has it listed for as far back as 2.8 if I recall correctly, just for some reason not everyone hits it.
On a side note, it was nice to see my name in a review, even though I was for all intents and purposes no help at all.
To subtle perhaps? I was stating my belief that if she is considered "h0t" then perhaps the poster does not get out much to see many women at all. Not to be mean, but I don't think that she qualifies as "h0t."
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Yes very good that was the joke. Hasn't anyone told you jokes are not as funny after you explained them.
That is some amazing work there.
I never said there weren't alternatives to the apps I mentioned, I did however say forget everything you knew. When you don't know, you use what you have at work (Office), or what the sales person says. People are told they need Office so they ask for a system that runs Office. People know QuickBooks, and it works with their banks so they ask for a system that runs QuickBooks, in both cases they never asked for an alternative, they asked for Windows.
If these succeed... Thats one really big if. The first question thats going to be asked is, "What version of Windows?" If this is just a test and they don't intend to keep it as an option, you won't see Linux based Systems in Wal-Mart any time soon.
Since I said what I said, I asked people I came across, If you were going to ditch windows what would you choose, a Mac or Linux. None of these people work with computers, most don't like them. The answer was universally they would choose a Mac. Even with the cost, a Mac. When you don't know what people around here know, Linux is not an option right now And yes several of the people I asked have used Linux, they said it was nice, they still chose the Mac.
I personally have a lot of respect for the OpenBSD team, and the pf developers in particular, some time in the next week I'll be replacing my little Linksys with a OpenBSD pf firewall, and when I sat down to write the rules for it, it was amazing and appreciated how simple it is to write the rules, and that they're understandable at the same time. Comparing it to iptables that I saw once, the ease of writing the pf rules would have been enough for me to switch over. They also have that reputation thats not bad either.
Well would people run an Expensive x86 based OS or a free x86 based OS? Mac hardware isn't that much more expensive then x86 hardware with the same capabilities, and you pay half the cost for OS upgrades between versions. Office runs on the Mac, along with a number of other important pieces of software. On top of that, Mac's look a lot better, which is important to some people. So I would still be shocked, SHOCKED!, (yes, I really mean that shocked), if your average user chose Linux over a Mac.
Everyone is getting sick of Microsoft
So sick in fact they don't care. Thats right, they don't care. Its just a tool, and Windows is the tool that runs everything.
Users don't turn around and say, "To hell with MS and they're security holes, I'm not gonna put up with DRM." They just don't care, they use the OS that runs software. They need QuickBooks, they want their games, so they use Windows, not because its the best techinical solution, but its the only one.
Before you type again about how every little stumble MS makes is "Linux's time," forget EVERYTHING you know about computers, DRM, DMCA, and just about everything else thats discussed here. Now your not a programmer or an admin, your just an average user. You need QuickBooks, you want to play the latest game, you need Office. You will run only one OS, Windows. Linux and the MacOS will never cross your mind, and if it did the sales person will tell you, I'm sorry no that game or that software only runs on Windows, and you'll put it out of your mind.
So no this little thing is not Linux's time. MS could turn around and call their users all sorts of names and use endless strings of profanity and people will still use Windows. And lastly, even if this did cause MS users to jump ship, it wouldn't be to Linux distros. 'User' distros have tried to make a user-friendly Unix like OS and have been for ages, but Apple beat them too the punch. If people are going to leave Windows, its going to be to the next best supported desktop OS, and thats OS X, not Linux.
Um, why? Why would I spend the time working with a partial implementation of Java, when I can download the complete Java from Sun and use it? Along with the argument of 'What possible benefit would Sun have in open sourceing Java' I really have to say 'Of what benefit to me is an OSS Java?' Considering I can't be all that different from a whole group of people, of what real benefit is there to Open Java, either the current Java from Sun or a Java implementation from someone else?
Well thank you for falling into the rhetoric supplied by your government. You make a fine American, never questioning, always assuming that the evils your told that are ever looming are responsible for everything bad that happens. 15 or so years ago, you would have been wondering if it was a communist plot to take down America.
The same people who watch TechTV, I swear they only made 4 episodes of every show.
What the hell is a gigawatt.
Be careful if you take a trip to Mos Eisley, its nothing but a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Seem to be somewhat lax on laws though.
Actually by disconnecting these people, their online security just went through the roof. They are now some of the most secure people on the net.
What on earth are you smoking man. NT4 was released in '96, and had minimum sys req of a 486/33 with 32mb ram. Now my math isn't great but it seems to me that 32 is a hell of a lot less then 256. 256MB on a desktop system in '96 would have been unheard of. And on a side note, 98 runs just fine in 32mb ram as well, if you had 128 you were laughing.
Well the first thought I had was he put a PC in a mainframe style case and called it Heavy metal as a change to big iron. I am very disappointed, and almost have an idea.
At which point you would have RMS crying that its not compatible with the GPL, and all the little people that hang on his every word would declare Java evil and would go on a crusade to try and convince everyone not to program in Java.
In short the only thing that would change is Sun no longer has control of Java, so what was the point.
Then quit complaining, a whole country founded by traitors and your surprised that a CEO of shores some work? Talk about double standard.
You'd be surprised about a criminal mastermind coming out of Australia too wouldn't you.
Yes a lot of Americans think they're Irish, and polish, and where ever their family came from 100 years ago. Its almost like they're embarrassed to be called American.
How is it getting sillier? Because they increment it once a year when there wasn't a hole that year, or are you just so used to using something else that you just cant believe that something goes longer then a month without a catastrophic security hole.
Where an alien life form that lived a few centimeters under the sand of a planet the Federation was in the process of terraforming began to fight back. They refered to everyone they talked to as an "Ugly bag of mostly water." Once again, why did they choose this name, which has nothing to do with Klingons.
It didn't crash the system because of an invalid XF86Config file, it crashed because he tried to start X one a Serial Console, you can't do that.
As far as the MySQL problem, its very well known and has been in OpenBSD for some time, the MySQL Manual has it listed for as far back as 2.8 if I recall correctly, just for some reason not everyone hits it.
On a side note, it was nice to see my name in a review, even though I was for all intents and purposes no help at all.
I'm really beginning to understand why so many people consider Star Trek fans just a bunch of dorks.
Now as such, why did they name it this, the title has nothing to do with Klingons at all.
Up until recently Memory Express in Calgary charged an extra 3% on Credit Card purchases, no one seemed to mind.
Ya your right, I just noticed i have my browse level too high. Maybe you just can't explain things to an AC.
Well thanks to Slashdot for messing it up. there was at one time an AC between my posts who said "Huh?" So I explained it.
To subtle perhaps? I was stating my belief that if she is considered "h0t" then perhaps the poster does not get out much to see many women at all. Not to be mean, but I don't think that she qualifies as "h0t."