But either way, make sure to send a nice, professional email to Nvidia informing them of the troubles you are having with your hardware you've paid for.
"Patents" be damned, there's no excuse for not giving just the docs for basic access to the hardware so the kernel people can write their own open driver and have issues like this not exist.
WalMart doesn't have low-low prices everyday because they like you. They've got these prices because they can pressure businesses into cutting their prices so low they barely make anything.
It's not like they're "undercutting" little mah-and-pah shops. This is computer hardware. If your making hardware, you have a sizable amount of cash.
And usually many underpaid workers in a country with lax labor laws. But shhh, remember, we're indignant that those people using others for cheap labor are having their profits undercut. Not that the exploitation is going further.
That said, this will possibly make hardware more expensive in the long-run, as manufacturers going out of business will push up production costs, and so on and so on. You can only undercut a market when the market still exists.
They don't need a CD, they already have Fink for bringing open-source and Free software into their systems.
http://fink.sourceforge.net/
Plus there are a handful of CDs full of open and/or Free software for OS X out there, many based upon the work of the Fink people(person?). Last I heard of one was when someone was distributing the GIMP port they made and calling it their own work, but I can only imagine there are even more out there now.
It's far easier to use the programs alongside a already-installed system then to have to reboot each time you wish to switch between the two.
Plus, in all honesty, Windows needs more exposure to Free software. GNU/Linux will not be around forever and it's better to show that the idea of Free software itself is the good thing, not just one operating system.
While what you say is true, it brings up the question of why you can't use it on Windows
Because they didn't want to support it for Windows?
I mean, it's like buying oil from a GM tune-up shop for a BMW. If it's the same weight, sure, it'll probably work, but why should GM have to try and help you fix it if it doesn't?
Of course, they later made iPods for Windows, and I've yet to hear of those having problems.
The GPL means you CAN get the sources from somewhere. Not that they're handed to you at every available point. They could require you to send in a fee for copying and give you the source and still be A-OK with the GPL.
It's about a media player which also encodes your audio in a format that only it can reasonably read which is controlled by the authors of the OS which is a illegal monopoly. Not a monopoly, a illegal monopoly.
If XMMS made everyone encode their audio in XMMS Media Audio or something else, which required a closed codec to play and had restrictions that could force the user to only use XMMS, AND XMMS was the only media player shipped with the only GNU/Linux distro, then I believe you would see the same gripes.
But it's pointless to argue on XMMS vs WMP, as this is dealing with streaming audio and video. A more apt comparison would have been "what if MPlayer was..", and even then you would have XINE and the lack over ownership of MPlayer by the distro (and various legal qualms world wide) to compete with.
I don't know about you, but I'd be happy to see DRM and WMA become hated among non-technical users. It would be great to see the user community truly revolt against closed technology for the same reason us open source geeks do.
I don't know about you, but I'm against it because it keeps me from copying my own CDs onto my own computer for my own amusement alone, not because it keeps you from illegally distributing them.
Fixing some of the above issues requires alterations to the kernel itself.
*smacks your hands* bad end user. End users don't compile a kernel. They get it with a whole ton of modules from the distro maker, who includes the modules for all that hardware with the kernel image. And some stupid little daemon that runs at boot to check for any hardware changes.
Bad user. No cookie.
Other than that, the hot-pluging of devices is the only thing that has not already been taken care of in most distros.
Linus, in his autobiography, said it best about being the kernel czar. He'd include multiple ways of doing things, and would let the best live by going with what most people needed or used. He'd never play ruler over what stayed, he just let the use of the code keep it alive or let it fail.
We don't need to stardardize everything. FreeDesktop is moving towards the "standards" we'll need as is. Everything else will be sorted out not by standards boards, but just by people using or not using the software availed them.
A) It was cross-platform. IE not a Linux project. It's not even a UNIX-like project. B) It's from Sun. They're used to people calling their UIs fuckups.;)
Public domain does not imply use, it refers to ownership.
If a thing is public domain, it is in the ownership of the public commons, or without any owner in effect. Because of that, anyone can use it. The GPL retains ownership for the author/authors, but allows anyone to use it.
A) If the GPL was nullo et voido, the code would then be untouchable. IE even more lawsuits against SCO could be filed thank to the dread law copyright. But that's pointless because:
B) You seem to be under the false assumtion there will be a SCO left after this case to sue.
I believe you will find that Samba, along with every other open source program, is the IP of SCO, as the Linux kernel contains SCO code. To deny them this would be unconstitutional...
What? You don't believe that?... *tosses out page from legal pad* OK, then how's about this, two licenses walk into a bar, an-
I know this has little to do with the discussion, but I was under the belief that instead of showing a BSoD, the default behaviour in XP is now to just reboot the machine. Haven't used the OS at all, so I've no idea if it's true, so this is just heresay, but hey.
Starving artist with a few grand to burn? Why not buy a tablet.
Actually, fine computer art would seem to be a boon industry for this, if the prices were resonable. Unfortunately, you could got a wacom with a in-tablet display for about half the price of a tablet PC, so even that's not really a good use for them...
Oh well, they'll have to go on clearence sometime.
It can. It's just in testing. It's call "Knoppix." Used it to install a Debian desktop before I moved to Arch-Linux. Most people I've heard from who've tried it like it. Give it a shot why don'tcha now?
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But either way, make sure to send a nice, professional email to Nvidia informing them of the troubles you are having with your hardware you've paid for.
"Patents" be damned, there's no excuse for not giving just the docs for basic access to the hardware so the kernel people can write their own open driver and have issues like this not exist.
WalMart doesn't have low-low prices everyday because they like you. They've got these prices because they can pressure businesses into cutting their prices so low they barely make anything.
It's not like they're "undercutting" little mah-and-pah shops. This is computer hardware. If your making hardware, you have a sizable amount of cash.
And usually many underpaid workers in a country with lax labor laws. But shhh, remember, we're indignant that those people using others for cheap labor are having their profits undercut. Not that the exploitation is going further.
That said, this will possibly make hardware more expensive in the long-run, as manufacturers going out of business will push up production costs, and so on and so on. You can only undercut a market when the market still exists.
They don't need a CD, they already have Fink for bringing open-source and Free software into their systems.
http://fink.sourceforge.net/
Plus there are a handful of CDs full of open and/or Free software for OS X out there, many based upon the work of the Fink people(person?). Last I heard of one was when someone was distributing the GIMP port they made and calling it their own work, but I can only imagine there are even more out there now.
Say, for example, this.
It's far easier to use the programs alongside a already-installed system then to have to reboot each time you wish to switch between the two.
Plus, in all honesty, Windows needs more exposure to Free software. GNU/Linux will not be around forever and it's better to show that the idea of Free software itself is the good thing, not just one operating system.
While what you say is true, it brings up the question of why you can't use it on Windows
Because they didn't want to support it for Windows?
I mean, it's like buying oil from a GM tune-up shop for a BMW. If it's the same weight, sure, it'll probably work, but why should GM have to try and help you fix it if it doesn't?
Of course, they later made iPods for Windows, and I've yet to hear of those having problems.
The GPL means you CAN get the sources from somewhere. Not that they're handed to you at every available point. They could require you to send in a fee for copying and give you the source and still be A-OK with the GPL.
So no, this was not a GPL violation.
This isn't about a media player persay.
It's about a media player which also encodes your audio in a format that only it can reasonably read which is controlled by the authors of the OS which is a illegal monopoly. Not a monopoly, a illegal monopoly.
If XMMS made everyone encode their audio in XMMS Media Audio or something else, which required a closed codec to play and had restrictions that could force the user to only use XMMS, AND XMMS was the only media player shipped with the only GNU/Linux distro, then I believe you would see the same gripes.
But it's pointless to argue on XMMS vs WMP, as this is dealing with streaming audio and video. A more apt comparison would have been "what if MPlayer was..", and even then you would have XINE and the lack over ownership of MPlayer by the distro (and various legal qualms world wide) to compete with.
DRM isn't a law. It's a feature of software and some hardware.
If you dislike it, ditch the OSes trying to impliment it.
I don't know about you, but I'd be happy to see DRM and WMA become hated among non-technical users. It would be great to see the user community truly revolt against closed technology for the same reason us open source geeks do.
I don't know about you, but I'm against it because it keeps me from copying my own CDs onto my own computer for my own amusement alone, not because it keeps you from illegally distributing them.
Fixing some of the above issues requires alterations to the kernel itself.
*smacks your hands* bad end user. End users don't compile a kernel. They get it with a whole ton of modules from the distro maker, who includes the modules for all that hardware with the kernel image. And some stupid little daemon that runs at boot to check for any hardware changes.
Bad user. No cookie.
Other than that, the hot-pluging of devices is the only thing that has not already been taken care of in most distros.
Linus, in his autobiography, said it best about being the kernel czar. He'd include multiple ways of doing things, and would let the best live by going with what most people needed or used. He'd never play ruler over what stayed, he just let the use of the code keep it alive or let it fail.
We don't need to stardardize everything. FreeDesktop is moving towards the "standards" we'll need as is. Everything else will be sorted out not by standards boards, but just by people using or not using the software availed them.
Bullshit.
The Mandrake Sims game only worked on Mandrake, and what's more, only works with THAT version of Mandrake and WineX.
If that's a "linux" version of the Sims, well...
you mean like this?
Yes, it makes far more sense to have the graphics system act as the server for audio as well, instead of another server. I mean, it's not like there are any networking audio servers out there.
Last I checked:
;)
A) It was cross-platform. IE not a Linux project. It's not even a UNIX-like project.
B) It's from Sun. They're used to people calling their UIs fuckups.
Public domain does not imply use, it refers to ownership.
If a thing is public domain, it is in the ownership of the public commons, or without any owner in effect. Because of that, anyone can use it. The GPL retains ownership for the author/authors, but allows anyone to use it.
Or, to put it another way, as long as there is a Disney, no GPL code will ever fall out of copyright protection.
Considering the normal voter turn-out each year, it appears the majority of people agree with you.
So it's true. They are making a linux-based Barbie laptop.
Well, at least they're keeping their licenses in order.
A) If the GPL was nullo et voido, the code would then be untouchable. IE even more lawsuits against SCO could be filed thank to the dread law copyright. But that's pointless because:
B) You seem to be under the false assumtion there will be a SCO left after this case to sue.
I believe you will find that Samba, along with every other open source program, is the IP of SCO, as the Linux kernel contains SCO code. To deny them this would be unconstitutional...
... *tosses out page from legal pad* OK, then how's about this, two licenses walk into a bar, an-
What? You don't believe that?
I know this has little to do with the discussion, but I was under the belief that instead of showing a BSoD, the default behaviour in XP is now to just reboot the machine. Haven't used the OS at all, so I've no idea if it's true, so this is just heresay, but hey.
*tosses two cents*
Maybe he means Costco.
100$ rebate on RedHat for Enterprise? Don't miiiiiind if I do.
Starving artist with a few grand to burn? Why not buy a tablet.
Actually, fine computer art would seem to be a boon industry for this, if the prices were resonable. Unfortunately, you could got a wacom with a in-tablet display for about half the price of a tablet PC, so even that's not really a good use for them...
Oh well, they'll have to go on clearence sometime.
The question is
Why the hell can't Debian do this?
It can. It's just in testing. It's call "Knoppix." Used it to install a Debian desktop before I moved to Arch-Linux. Most people I've heard from who've tried it like it. Give it a shot why don'tcha now?