That is the sad reality of the situation, but I think it is less what they care about am more that most take a "What do I have to hide" attitude. Which is the wrong attitude. We won't see changes until TV gets taken away. Books, and internet are second to most out there.
3. Tough about the English requirement. You are in the USA, and our language is English. And in a physics class, there shouldn't be that much to look up anyways. If you must have a dictionary, you can buy really cheap paperback ones. You think I get access to a dictionary when I take a test, or any book for that matter? NO!
Last time I checked, America had no official language, not that I disagree totally with what you say.
No test should ever need a calculator if setup properly. It should only require basic math skills. If it must require knowledge of square roots and such, make a table available or make it so that the final calculations are ridiculously easy (like square root of 9). You are testing physics concepts, not math. And if you can't handle basic math and basic English, how did they ever get into college in the first place?
They do, but, I do own my car. I pay ridiculous amounts in taxes for said roads. I also pay registration as another tax. They can do to the plate what they want, but so can I as an act of Free Speech.
These things are going to consume some power... is the government going to lower taxes on fuel to compensate for the amount of fuel it takes to power these license plates?
Maybe they will be battery operated... what happens when the battery dies? I will say what others have said, if I wanted to drive around a billboard for others, I'll choose who I advertise for.
You know as well as I do, the day these are foisted on people, they will be hacked. That is more of my tax money wasted. I really think that is the crux of the issue, it is nothing more than a flagrant waste of tax money on something that is going to end up costing more in the future than it is worth.
if your front door had a lock that could be opened by anyone pushing a button clearly marked on the outside, and a robber pushed the button and came in, would you consider that a fault of the lock, the door, or the house?
Answer is none of the above, I would fault the owner:)
On topic, the script should catch these sorts of things before processing.
If they had knives and pistols, and you knew it, you acted as nothing more than an enabler, and are worse for it.
if they didnt have those, they had friends who did not hesistate to jump in afterwards.
That is the part that helps to make you more well rounded, Life is not a video game, you cannot achieve 100%. It is those knocks that strengthen us for our next fights, physically or mentally.
There is the other side of the coin, which is simply you so badly beat your "bully" that his friends don't mess with you, I've seen that happen too.
I really feel that kids should be allowed to fight, I have been saying this for years. Kids today have no place to channel aggression. Thus we get things like columbine happening. These school shootings are nothing more than pent up aggravation, and by the person(s) involved, they really don't see a way out, this is the only way they can solve the problem. Parents are partially to blame, but if these kids were allowed to ball up a fist and throw it every once in a while, they may be happier for it, even if they end up with a nose bleed, shiner, etc.
Yeah, They are driving Californians the maddest of all... We a supposed to be the crazy ones... Texas is trying to steal our thunder... or maybe they are the yang to our ying... No matter, we need to stop the BS on all sides... Oh and AYE! (you can vote California off the map as well, just give me a heads up before you do).
And you all thought it was us Californians who where the crazies... wait we still are...
TEXAS!!! STOP STEALING OUR THUNDER!!!
back on topic... a 25 cent piece of candy is providing someone 5 extra hours of work for the weeks detention, and, presumably, they get to eat the candy too.
With most white hats, this is how they make their living, cred is how they make their living, asking them not to do something for cred, is like asking you to work for free.
Not quite, but excellent point! I would be hoping for a shift in taxes after this is complete. Lower sales tax, or better get rid of it all together, and let the infra pay for the city taxes. I know that is a dream... but I can can't I?
A much better idea would be to have the city lay out it's grid (cable, internet, telephone, etc) and then lease its usage to competing companies, The infrastructure becomes an investment that the community has, and is able to profit from. All potential lessees would be charged the same amount for usage of components of the grid, thus you have the same base rate for each company, then they each have to figure in the profit margin etc... no need to explain this any further.
I realize this is a corruptible system, at the same time, it would be a self correcting system, as the community can decide which is offering the best service for the price.
There would be a large "up front" Investment here, but would pay for it self, especially when you get a large number of companies on the same grid.
I understand your Darwinian point, and there's certainly an element of truth to it. The question is, how much do you value human life? You could, for example, send all your kids off to war, and indeed you will have "survival of the fittest." But you will also lose a lot of perfectly good future husbands and office workers, not to mention a lot of senseless, random deaths.
Kids do need to learn how to stick up for themselves, but in this case you had a 15-year-old who didn't know how. That's a failure of education. Nobody took her aside to explain that there was a legitimate (i.e. non-suicidal) way out.
There is also an element of gang assault here that is criminal. And it's completely inappropriate that 17-18 year olds were involved in this kind of immaturity.
There is two things that I think people are missing here, but I think the grandparent touched on. First Age means nothing, especially when you are trying to separate by one or two years.
There is no magic that happens when one turns 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. all that happens is you age another day. We all grow and change slowly, which is in part the reason that a company may prefer to hire a 30 something for a professional position, and a 20 something for retail type position. In other words, to me, it sounds like you are saying that what everyone else did was OK! but the 17 and 18 year olds should fry. They all should be punished, I don't know about locked up for life.
I cannot speak for others, but I had a pretty good idea of what was right and wrong before I was a teenager. That doesn't mean that I always chose to follow the right path. Part of being human is learning as we go, we all make mistakes, we all do dumb things.
I am not excusing this behavior in any way, on the contrary, I really blame the parents. I cannot blame the school officials, their hands are tied, god forbid these kids have any form of an authority figure in their lives. People say detention, suspension, expulsion. These people forget what it is like to be a kid, most dislike going to school, detention was usually fun, suspension was a vacation, expulsion meant you were going to another school next week.
I must admit, I am a huge fan of letting kids duke it out. That is the natural way of settling things, I was lucky enough to grow up at a time where fighting was allowed, however, frowned upon. I am not saying with weapons, I am saying with your fists.
Missed point #2, This could have easily been another Columbine, with lots of dead students and teachers, instead of just one. I should note that I put her parents equally to blame for her suicide as the harassing kids, they should have seen the warning signs, they should have been monitoring internet usage, most of all they should have been there for her. I see the job of a parent as that of someone who is there to help you pick up the pieces after you have fallen, not to prevent the fall in the first place. If you have kids, be there for them when they fall, be there to help them pick up the pieces, and know what is going on in their life so you can be prepared for the fall you can see coming.
Yes, indeed! Let's dry out any kind of outlet for those freaks! Once they wont be able to get off from something besides the real deal, they are bound to stop and suddenly turn into normal, heterosexual human beings.
Right? Right?!
[sarcasm]
See, you just don't understand the government's logic.
Once you've eliminated any other outlet for deviant desires other than damaging and traumatizing children they'll be forced to reveal themselves through said unspeakable acts, then all authorities need to do is just look for large groups of irreparably-damaged children to flag a pedo's existence & location so they may be locked up at taxpayers' expense!
It's a perfect plan other than some collateral damage to innocent children, but then the demand for large numbers of pediatric therapists and prison workers will help keep the unemployment numbers low and the politicians' "unlike my pedo-loving opponent, I thought of the children!!!1one" factor high for the upcoming elections as well as provide a convenient excuse for raising taxes to pay for more police, prisons, and pediatric emotional-trauma treatment centers.
Win-win!
[/sarcasm]
I tagged this sarcasm, but I'm afraid that it's frighteningly-close to the truth.
Strat
It is frighteningly close, but you both are a-miss on one point. I have yet to see a study that shows which part of the "pedo process" is actually the damaging part. We can all agree that children are capable of achieving orgasm. If the acts are consensual, and neither party are doing physical damage to the other, and both parties enjoy the process. I should take this moment to state clearly, Rape is Rape, the victim is almost always left psychologically harmed. In the case of consensual sexual interludes, I postulate that victimizing one party does more damage than the act itself.
I have no first hand knowledge of this
I just cannot trust anyone who would equate a "phile" with a sexual attraction. as the definition of "phile" is a non sexual attraction, or platonic love, or the love a parent has for a child. So in technical terms of the definition, most parents are peadophiles.
I will tell you what bugs me most about the entire situation.
Sex, that thing that brought the vast majority of us into the world, is shunned. While murder and violence are "acceptable" forms of entertainment.
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How about PuTTY for ssh and FileZilla for sftp? They're both open source.
While I agree with you, and Use both those programs, as well as winscp. The problem is that windows servers do not natively support such things, so you have to install servers that are able to listen for sftp connections, or ssh connections, in most cases one has to pay for these services on a windows server. IIRC Filezilla has a ftp server, I just don't know how what protocols it supports.
That is the point... and one of the things that really bothers me about windows as a whole. You have to pay for the software, then you have to pay to secure it, then have to pay to re-secure it, then the next version comes out, and it is lather, rinse, repeat.
Considering that windows will not natively run ssh, sftp, scp, etc... That leaves millions of site owners with no way to upload content. Unless they want to run cygwin, or pay for programs, and this is all assuming that they are connecting to a *nix server from a windows machine... what do you do on a windows server? IIS? even Apache on a windows server, as far as I know windows servers still tout telnet, ftp, and rtp as the methods of remotely manipulating files. So as it comes down... I still have to blame windows... for once I would like to be able to blame something other than windows, or some Microsoft product... but it seems that I always have to come to the same conclusion.
Please note that the last IIS server or windows server I worked with was a SB2k3 server about 4 years ago, so something may have changed.
I couldn't agree more with this statement.
With the dwindling funds that space programs are receiving these days, it is a wonder that we can even send probes into space any more.
Hello.... Government....
Don't you have more important things to be thinking about than `internet poker`?
Like an economy on the rocks?
or maybe nearly 10% of the folks in this nation who have no source of income?
Honestly, I'll never understand who goes through our governments minds... they do nothing but waste time, thus waste money... and people wonder why this nation is on the verge of collapse...
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Is there such thing as an -honest- conservative?
How about an -honest- democrat?
Hell, is anyone -honest- now days?
That is the sad reality of the situation, but I think it is less what they care about am more that most take a "What do I have to hide" attitude. Which is the wrong attitude. We won't see changes until TV gets taken away. Books, and internet are second to most out there.
3. Tough about the English requirement. You are in the USA, and our language is English. And in a physics class, there shouldn't be that much to look up anyways. If you must have a dictionary, you can buy really cheap paperback ones. You think I get access to a dictionary when I take a test, or any book for that matter? NO!
Last time I checked, America had no official language, not that I disagree totally with what you say.
No test should ever need a calculator if setup properly. It should only require basic math skills. If it must require knowledge of square roots and such, make a table available or make it so that the final calculations are ridiculously easy (like square root of 9). You are testing physics concepts, not math. And if you can't handle basic math and basic English, how did they ever get into college in the first place?
This isn't a horrible idea
will you be robbing peter to do so?
They do, but, I do own my car. I pay ridiculous amounts in taxes for said roads. I also pay registration as another tax. They can do to the plate what they want, but so can I as an act of Free Speech.
These things are going to consume some power... is the government going to lower taxes on fuel to compensate for the amount of fuel it takes to power these license plates?
Maybe they will be battery operated... what happens when the battery dies? I will say what others have said, if I wanted to drive around a billboard for others, I'll choose who I advertise for.
You know as well as I do, the day these are foisted on people, they will be hacked. That is more of my tax money wasted. I really think that is the crux of the issue, it is nothing more than a flagrant waste of tax money on something that is going to end up costing more in the future than it is worth.
if your front door had a lock that could be opened by anyone pushing a button clearly marked on the outside, and a robber pushed the button and came in, would you consider that a fault of the lock, the door, or the house?
Answer is none of the above, I would fault the owner :)
On topic, the script should catch these sorts of things before processing.
in my highschool, bullies had knives or pistols.
If they had knives and pistols, and you knew it, you acted as nothing more than an enabler, and are worse for it.
if they didnt have those, they had friends who did not hesistate to jump in afterwards.
That is the part that helps to make you more well rounded, Life is not a video game, you cannot achieve 100%. It is those knocks that strengthen us for our next fights, physically or mentally.
There is the other side of the coin, which is simply you so badly beat your "bully" that his friends don't mess with you, I've seen that happen too.
I really feel that kids should be allowed to fight, I have been saying this for years. Kids today have no place to channel aggression. Thus we get things like columbine happening. These school shootings are nothing more than pent up aggravation, and by the person(s) involved, they really don't see a way out, this is the only way they can solve the problem. Parents are partially to blame, but if these kids were allowed to ball up a fist and throw it every once in a while, they may be happier for it, even if they end up with a nose bleed, shiner, etc.
Yeah,
They are driving Californians the maddest of all...
We a supposed to be the crazy ones...
Texas is trying to steal our thunder...
or maybe they are the yang to our ying...
No matter, we need to stop the BS on all sides... Oh and AYE! (you can vote California off the map as well, just give me a heads up before you do).
And you all thought it was us Californians who where the crazies... wait we still are...
TEXAS!!! STOP STEALING OUR THUNDER!!!
back on topic... a 25 cent piece of candy is providing someone 5 extra hours of work for the weeks detention, and, presumably, they get to eat the candy too.
are we that freakin dense?
obviously not...
Well, I think it is high time we re-usher in the times of "Are you sure you want to do that?"
With most white hats, this is how they make their living, cred is how they make their living, asking them not to do something for cred, is like asking you to work for free.
Not quite, but excellent point! I would be hoping for a shift in taxes after this is complete. Lower sales tax, or better get rid of it all together, and let the infra pay for the city taxes. I know that is a dream... but I can can't I?
A much better idea would be to have the city lay out it's grid (cable, internet, telephone, etc) and then lease its usage to competing companies, The infrastructure becomes an investment that the community has, and is able to profit from. All potential lessees would be charged the same amount for usage of components of the grid, thus you have the same base rate for each company, then they each have to figure in the profit margin etc... no need to explain this any further.
I realize this is a corruptible system, at the same time, it would be a self correcting system, as the community can decide which is offering the best service for the price.
There would be a large "up front" Investment here, but would pay for it self, especially when you get a large number of companies on the same grid.
I understand your Darwinian point, and there's certainly an element of truth to it. The question is, how much do you value human life? You could, for example, send all your kids off to war, and indeed you will have "survival of the fittest." But you will also lose a lot of perfectly good future husbands and office workers, not to mention a lot of senseless, random deaths.
Kids do need to learn how to stick up for themselves, but in this case you had a 15-year-old who didn't know how. That's a failure of education. Nobody took her aside to explain that there was a legitimate (i.e. non-suicidal) way out.
There is also an element of gang assault here that is criminal. And it's completely inappropriate that 17-18 year olds were involved in this kind of immaturity.
There is two things that I think people are missing here, but I think the grandparent touched on. First Age means nothing, especially when you are trying to separate by one or two years.
There is no magic that happens when one turns 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. all that happens is you age another day. We all grow and change slowly, which is in part the reason that a company may prefer to hire a 30 something for a professional position, and a 20 something for retail type position. In other words, to me, it sounds like you are saying that what everyone else did was OK! but the 17 and 18 year olds should fry. They all should be punished, I don't know about locked up for life.
I cannot speak for others, but I had a pretty good idea of what was right and wrong before I was a teenager. That doesn't mean that I always chose to follow the right path. Part of being human is learning as we go, we all make mistakes, we all do dumb things.
I am not excusing this behavior in any way, on the contrary, I really blame the parents. I cannot blame the school officials, their hands are tied, god forbid these kids have any form of an authority figure in their lives. People say detention, suspension, expulsion. These people forget what it is like to be a kid, most dislike going to school, detention was usually fun, suspension was a vacation, expulsion meant you were going to another school next week.
I must admit, I am a huge fan of letting kids duke it out. That is the natural way of settling things, I was lucky enough to grow up at a time where fighting was allowed, however, frowned upon. I am not saying with weapons, I am saying with your fists.
Missed point #2, This could have easily been another Columbine, with lots of dead students and teachers, instead of just one. I should note that I put her parents equally to blame for her suicide as the harassing kids, they should have seen the warning signs, they should have been monitoring internet usage, most of all they should have been there for her. I see the job of a parent as that of someone who is there to help you pick up the pieces after you have fallen, not to prevent the fall in the first place. If you have kids, be there for them when they fall, be there to help them pick up the pieces, and know what is going on in their life so you can be prepared for the fall you can see coming.
This just proves it! Apple steals everything from microsoft!
Yes, indeed! Let's dry out any kind of outlet for those freaks! Once they wont be able to get off from something besides the real deal, they are bound to stop and suddenly turn into normal, heterosexual human beings.
Right? Right?!
[sarcasm] See, you just don't understand the government's logic.
Once you've eliminated any other outlet for deviant desires other than damaging and traumatizing children they'll be forced to reveal themselves through said unspeakable acts, then all authorities need to do is just look for large groups of irreparably-damaged children to flag a pedo's existence & location so they may be locked up at taxpayers' expense!
It's a perfect plan other than some collateral damage to innocent children, but then the demand for large numbers of pediatric therapists and prison workers will help keep the unemployment numbers low and the politicians' "unlike my pedo-loving opponent, I thought of the children!!!1one" factor high for the upcoming elections as well as provide a convenient excuse for raising taxes to pay for more police, prisons, and pediatric emotional-trauma treatment centers.
Win-win! [/sarcasm]
I tagged this sarcasm, but I'm afraid that it's frighteningly-close to the truth.
Strat
It is frighteningly close, but you both are a-miss on one point. I have yet to see a study that shows which part of the "pedo process" is actually the damaging part. We can all agree that children are capable of achieving orgasm. If the acts are consensual, and neither party are doing physical damage to the other, and both parties enjoy the process. I should take this moment to state clearly, Rape is Rape, the victim is almost always left psychologically harmed. In the case of consensual sexual interludes, I postulate that victimizing one party does more damage than the act itself.
I have no first hand knowledge of this
I just cannot trust anyone who would equate a "phile" with a sexual attraction. as the definition of "phile" is a non sexual attraction, or platonic love, or the love a parent has for a child. So in technical terms of the definition, most parents are peadophiles.
I will tell you what bugs me most about the entire situation.
Sex, that thing that brought the vast majority of us into the world, is shunned. While murder and violence are "acceptable" forms of entertainment.
Someone with mod point please mod parent up!
This is funny as hell!
You know, I fully agree with this.
If you were to ask me I would say that they were not a steward to their patent, and do not deserve to hold it, or profit from it.
There is a legal term for this... Oh yes, negligence.
I knew it would happen some day, I just thought it would be Al Gore who sued the internet, because he invented it...
http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/FileZilla_FTP_Server Clearly states that it does not support SFTP.
How about PuTTY for ssh and FileZilla for sftp? They're both open source.
While I agree with you, and Use both those programs, as well as winscp. The problem is that windows servers do not natively support such things, so you have to install servers that are able to listen for sftp connections, or ssh connections, in most cases one has to pay for these services on a windows server. IIRC Filezilla has a ftp server, I just don't know how what protocols it supports.
That is the point... and one of the things that really bothers me about windows as a whole. You have to pay for the software, then you have to pay to secure it, then have to pay to re-secure it, then the next version comes out, and it is lather, rinse, repeat.
That is the real question.
Considering that windows will not natively run ssh, sftp, scp, etc... That leaves millions of site owners with no way to upload content. Unless they want to run cygwin, or pay for programs, and this is all assuming that they are connecting to a *nix server from a windows machine... what do you do on a windows server? IIS? even Apache on a windows server, as far as I know windows servers still tout telnet, ftp, and rtp as the methods of remotely manipulating files. So as it comes down... I still have to blame windows... for once I would like to be able to blame something other than windows, or some Microsoft product... but it seems that I always have to come to the same conclusion.
Please note that the last IIS server or windows server I worked with was a SB2k3 server about 4 years ago, so something may have changed.
I couldn't agree more with this statement.
With the dwindling funds that space programs are receiving these days, it is a wonder that we can even send probes into space any more.
Hello.... Government....
Don't you have more important things to be thinking about than `internet poker`?
Like an economy on the rocks?
or maybe nearly 10% of the folks in this nation who have no source of income?
Honestly, I'll never understand who goes through our governments minds... they do nothing but waste time, thus waste money... and people wonder why this nation is on the verge of collapse...
or Warcrack if you will...
I love it.. I still play roughly 30~60 hours a week