Your forgetting basic computer logic. That is, garbage in = garbage out. When a robot fails in space, it's ultimately due to human error that programmed the robot in the first place. So when such errors do occur that could damn a mission, it's always resourcefull to have a human at the helm to aid in the computers corrections that may be needed.
Points well taken. But, with a pilot onboard, there is an option for realtime correction. With a probe, by the time you realized it was off course, it's too late.
As for getting to Mars. I don't see why you couldn't have a mini-greenhouse of plants and vegetables all around you. Though such a craft would be huge. I don't see why it can't be done. It would be like a mini-biosphere in space. All you really need is fuel, and sunlight. The rest is recycled.
Yes...I would. Why don't you ask that very question to those that risked their life to climb Mt Everest? You would get the same answer. To embark on such a mission is life altering. In fact, I would go so far as to say spiritual. Logically of course, it would be suicide by any other name. But hey, life is short in the grand scheme of things. So even if you die trying, you still got to venture out to one of the many places no one dares to go. And it's that point, you can call yourself Human...as it's our nature to explore.
But they did have to worry about food, weather...and praying to God their sea charts where on target. Sounds like a big of a risk to me. Oh ya, lets not foret illness to.
The trip to Mars is childs play compared to the longest Human durration on Mir. Valeriy Polyakov spent 483 days in that tin can between January 1994 and March 1995. And your going to tell me it can't be done!!!
And don't give me that Emotional stability crap. I've heard of submariners spend more time underwater. And they mind you, are doing just fine.
Everytime I look at those new images, I can't help but just think how simple it would be to just send a craft over there and do a maned mission.
Surly it would be a lot easer then for sailers to sail around the world in the 1500s in comparison today. I think the technology is there, all we need is some human drive with those willing to risk their own life. Of course, the US...which based all of our major achivements is based on risk. But now days, the mere thought of death will totally can a project.
Personally, I would love to take a trip to mars. To hell with the "risks". To me, it would be worth it!!
Just because you might drive a 57 Chevy does NOT mean Chevrolet should still provide new parts for that car. If you really want to keep that car, then your only choice is to go with aftermarket parts (Linux as an OS for the PC) and/or parts from a junk yard or bought directly from someone else (EBay and computer swap meets)
Of course, it would just be more cost effective to buy a new car that comes backed by a warrenty. A shiny new PC with XP in this case from Dell.
Seriously, why should MS be forced to support there older software for as long as they do. I would say they are being more then fair about it with ample warning ahead of time. I doubt you can say the same thing for Apple. They are notorious for leaving their users high and dry when it comes to support after a few years of Mac ownership.
The population is dropping. It used to be that hundreds of years ago, large families were needed to help out on the farm and other duties. Now fast forward today. With the increase in education and ability to be more self sufficent, people in 1st world countries are having less and less children. America, Japan, and Europe are prime examples. If this trend continues, India, China, and the rest of the Middle East should follow suite in the next 100 years from now.
Though you are correct about the absorbent amount of resources consumed by each individual more then ever (in all history of mankind), the Human drive to find a solution will always prevail. So far, I don't have any evidence to suggest otherwise. Either it being a forced lifestyle change for everyone, or the mining of astriods in the future....I have every bit of reason at being optimistic about the Human race. Of course, time will tell...
Sounds like gaming over the net in Australia can rape you wallet in a hurry. Must suck to be a gamer down under. But, at least WiFi is an option right? Maybe once Aussies start going wireless, then a true public network can be formed by interconnecting all of the WiFi nodes in a P2P fashion.
40% of the wealth and counting down. You are forgetting that when you consume goods made in another country, you are also investing in that country as well. Eventually, America wont be anymore wealty then the rest of the world. Yet irronically, the world as a whole will have a much better standard of living...including the US. Funny how ecconimics plays par for the course, eh?
And that my friend is what I like to call GEE (Global Ecconmic Equilibrium). It a simple concept really. Because we live in a global ecconomy, the standard of living in rich countries such as US and rest of Europe will stagnate or drop while poor coutries will gain wealth. Eventually, the world will all meet up to a central point of a basic standard of living (assuming politics arn't in the way...which they're always are). Once GEE is reached, the entire world will enjoy an exponential growth in the standard of living. Imagine you or your children living the highlife of Bill Gates 50 years from now.
Seriously. At the rate technology is changing, we will need personal replicators at home just to build our own devices. Imagine just buying a products blueprint online, then sending it to your replicator to build what ever X-device you bought.
You can't get anymore throw-away then that.
Let's just hope you don't have to replace the replicators just as often too...YIKES
Though this is slashdot (thus who gives a damn), in principle it's not professional to talk badly about a past company you've worked for. The same goes for a company talking trash about an ex-employee (which is illigal in the US.)
Remember, the door swings both ways. So never talk smack about your last job in an interview. Because if you do, they may be fearfull that you might talk smack about them too.
1964 U.S. launches Mariner 3, which fails after liftoff.
1964 U.S. launches Mariner 4. First successful Mars fly-by in July 1965. The craft returns the first pictures of the Martian surface.
1964 Soviets launch Zond 2. Mars fly-by. Contact lost in May 1965.
1969 U.S. launches Mariner 6 and 7. The two spacecraft fly by Mars in July and August 1969 and send back images and data.
1971 Soviets launch Mars 2. Orbiter and lander reach Mars in November 1971. Lander crashes but orbiter sends back images and data.
1971 U.S. launches Mariner 8, which fails during liftoff.
1971 U.S. launches Mariner 9. Orbiter reaches Mars in November 1971, provides global mapping of Martian surface and studies atmosphere.
1973 Soviets launch Mars 5. Orbiter reaches Mars in February 1974 and collects data.
1975 U.S. launches Viking 1 and Viking 2. The two orbiter/lander sets reach Mars in 1976. Orbiters image Martian surface. Landers send back images and take surface samples.
1992 U.S. launches Mars Observer. Contact lost with orbiter in August 1993, three days before scheduled insertion into Martian orbit.
1996 U.S. launches Mars Global Surveyor. Orbiter reaches Mars in September 1997 and maps the planet. Still in operation.
1996 Soviets launch Mars 96, which fails after launch and falls back into Earth's atmosphere.
1996 U.S. launches Mars Pathfinder. Lander and rover arrive on Mars in July 1997, in the most-watched space event ever. Lander sends back thousands of images, and Sojourner rover roams the surface, sending back 550 images.
1998 Japan launches Nozomi. Orbiter suffers glitch in December 1998, forcing circuitous course correction. Mission fails in 2003.
1998 U.S. launches Mars Climate Orbiter. Spacecraft destroyed while entering Martian orbit in September 1999.
1999 U.S. launches Mars Polar Lander. Contact lost with lander during descent in December 1999. Two microprobes "hitchhiking" on lander also fail.
2001 U.S. launches Mars Odyssey. Orbiter reaches Mars in October 2001 to detect water and shallow buried ice and study the environment. It can also act as a communications relay for future Mars landers.
2003 European Space Agency launches Mars Express. Orbiter and lander to arrive at Mars in December 2003.
2003 U.S. launches Mars Expedition Rovers. Spirit and Opportunity rovers due to land on Mars in January 2004.
As an American, I can tell you that the US is far from perfect. Then again, the same is true for any other. The problem takes root at the Human eliment. Address the issues there, and everything else should fall into place. Be it social, political, or physical.
Forget it. Programming is like doing mathmatics. Soon, everyone that can understand it, will use programming like an everyday tool for their own daily activities. In fact, I'm sure that schools around the world will have programming added in as a basic staple of education.
May I remind the rest of you coders out their to find another line or work. Stop bitching about it and face reality.
Hell, just as having experience using the computer was a job requirement for most white-collar positions in the 90s...so will programming in the future.
Those of you who are reading this post already see me as being cynical. But here is a reality check. We live in a fast paced world. Either adapt or die out from the work force!
Just keep one thing into perspective. DRM protects music from YOU. The music industry doesn't want to risk their property to be ummm...say.....shared!
If you ask me, I would rather pay a flat monthly fee and get unlimited MP3 downloads. That would keep me from having to leach off of P2P networks where the source and quality of the files are dubious at best.
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I soo WISH we had public executions in the US. Maybe then the youth would grow up realising that it doesn't pay to take someone elses life.
The problem with America is that it has become way to liberal if you ask me.
"No, we produce more of it through science - twit."
*Sigh* Where do I even begin.... Through science we have the ability to create products such as cars, planes, trains....etc. BUT, those objects are still made out of the mass that was once inside the Earth. So, the total mass of the earth (that includes us and our creations) is still the bloody same. The only execption to that rule is when we launch objects into space such as probes and satellites.
Really, it's basic science. It's reather pathetic that I'm even taking the time to explain this on SLASHDOT of all places!!! *sigh*
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You you want cutting edge technology, you pay a cutting edge price. All that R&D has to be payed off somehow.
As soon as they can find a new machine that will accept the new 20 dollar bill. Because, that's how much it will cost you per credit.
Your forgetting basic computer logic. That is, garbage in = garbage out. When a robot fails in space, it's ultimately due to human error that programmed the robot in the first place. So when such errors do occur that could damn a mission, it's always resourcefull to have a human at the helm to aid in the computers corrections that may be needed.
Points well taken. But, with a pilot onboard, there is an option for realtime correction. With a probe, by the time you realized it was off course, it's too late.
As for getting to Mars. I don't see why you couldn't have a mini-greenhouse of plants and vegetables all around you. Though such a craft would be huge. I don't see why it can't be done. It would be like a mini-biosphere in space. All you really need is fuel, and sunlight. The rest is recycled.
Yes...I would. Why don't you ask that very question to those that risked their life to climb Mt Everest? You would get the same answer. To embark on such a mission is life altering. In fact, I would go so far as to say spiritual. Logically of course, it would be suicide by any other name. But hey, life is short in the grand scheme of things. So even if you die trying, you still got to venture out to one of the many places no one dares to go. And it's that point, you can call yourself Human...as it's our nature to explore.
But they did have to worry about food, weather...and praying to God their sea charts where on target. Sounds like a big of a risk to me. Oh ya, lets not foret illness to.
The trip to Mars is childs play compared to the longest Human durration on Mir. Valeriy Polyakov spent 483 days in that tin can between January 1994 and March 1995. And your going to tell me it can't be done!!!
And don't give me that Emotional stability crap. I've heard of submariners spend more time underwater. And they mind you, are doing just fine.
Everytime I look at those new images, I can't help but just think how simple it would be to just send a craft over there and do a maned mission.
Surly it would be a lot easer then for sailers to sail around the world in the 1500s in comparison today. I think the technology is there, all we need is some human drive with those willing to risk their own life. Of course, the US...which based all of our major achivements is based on risk. But now days, the mere thought of death will totally can a project.
Personally, I would love to take a trip to mars. To hell with the "risks". To me, it would be worth it!!
Just because you might drive a 57 Chevy does NOT mean Chevrolet should still provide new parts for that car. If you really want to keep that car, then your only choice is to go with aftermarket parts (Linux as an OS for the PC) and/or parts from a junk yard or bought directly from someone else (EBay and computer swap meets)
Of course, it would just be more cost effective to buy a new car that comes backed by a warrenty. A shiny new PC with XP in this case from Dell.
Seriously, why should MS be forced to support there older software for as long as they do. I would say they are being more then fair about it with ample warning ahead of time. I doubt you can say the same thing for Apple. They are notorious for leaving their users high and dry when it comes to support after a few years of Mac ownership.
The population is dropping. It used to be that hundreds of years ago, large families were needed to help out on the farm and other duties. Now fast forward today. With the increase in education and ability to be more self sufficent, people in 1st world countries are having less and less children. America, Japan, and Europe are prime examples. If this trend continues, India, China, and the rest of the Middle East should follow suite in the next 100 years from now.
Though you are correct about the absorbent amount of resources consumed by each individual more then ever (in all history of mankind), the Human drive to find a solution will always prevail. So far, I don't have any evidence to suggest otherwise. Either it being a forced lifestyle change for everyone, or the mining of astriods in the future....I have every bit of reason at being optimistic about the Human race. Of course, time will tell...
Sounds like gaming over the net in Australia can rape you wallet in a hurry. Must suck to be a gamer down under. But, at least WiFi is an option right? Maybe once Aussies start going wireless, then a true public network can be formed by interconnecting all of the WiFi nodes in a P2P fashion.
Could it work? Any thoughts on this.
40% of the wealth and counting down. You are forgetting that when you consume goods made in another country, you are also investing in that country as well. Eventually, America wont be anymore wealty then the rest of the world. Yet irronically, the world as a whole will have a much better standard of living...including the US. Funny how ecconimics plays par for the course, eh?
And that my friend is what I like to call GEE (Global Ecconmic Equilibrium). It a simple concept really. Because we live in a global ecconomy, the standard of living in rich countries such as US and rest of Europe will stagnate or drop while poor coutries will gain wealth. Eventually, the world will all meet up to a central point of a basic standard of living (assuming politics arn't in the way...which they're always are). Once GEE is reached, the entire world will enjoy an exponential growth in the standard of living. Imagine you or your children living the highlife of Bill Gates 50 years from now.
Seriously. At the rate technology is changing, we will need personal replicators at home just to build our own devices. Imagine just buying a products blueprint online, then sending it to your replicator to build what ever X-device you bought.
You can't get anymore throw-away then that.
Let's just hope you don't have to replace the replicators just as often too...YIKES
Though this is slashdot (thus who gives a damn), in principle it's not professional to talk badly about a past company you've worked for. The same goes for a company talking trash about an ex-employee (which is illigal in the US.)
Remember, the door swings both ways. So never talk smack about your last job in an interview. Because if you do, they may be fearfull that you might talk smack about them too.
Here is the breakdown of failures and sucesses.
1964 U.S. launches Mariner 3, which fails after liftoff.
1964 U.S. launches Mariner 4. First successful Mars fly-by in July 1965. The craft returns the first pictures of the Martian surface.
1964 Soviets launch Zond 2. Mars fly-by. Contact lost in May 1965.
1969 U.S. launches Mariner 6 and 7. The two spacecraft fly by Mars in July and August 1969 and send back images and data.
1971 Soviets launch Mars 2. Orbiter and lander reach Mars in November 1971. Lander crashes but orbiter sends back images and data.
1971 U.S. launches Mariner 8, which fails during liftoff.
1971 U.S. launches Mariner 9. Orbiter reaches Mars in November 1971, provides global mapping of Martian surface and studies atmosphere.
1973 Soviets launch Mars 5. Orbiter reaches Mars in February 1974 and collects data.
1975 U.S. launches Viking 1 and Viking 2. The two orbiter/lander sets reach Mars in 1976. Orbiters image Martian surface. Landers send back images and take surface samples.
1992 U.S. launches Mars Observer. Contact lost with orbiter in August 1993, three days before scheduled insertion into Martian orbit.
1996 U.S. launches Mars Global Surveyor. Orbiter reaches Mars in September 1997 and maps the planet. Still in operation.
1996 Soviets launch Mars 96, which fails after launch and falls back into Earth's atmosphere.
1996 U.S. launches Mars Pathfinder. Lander and rover arrive on Mars in July 1997, in the most-watched space event ever. Lander sends back thousands of images, and Sojourner rover roams the surface, sending back 550 images.
1998 Japan launches Nozomi. Orbiter suffers glitch in December 1998, forcing circuitous course correction. Mission fails in 2003.
1998 U.S. launches Mars Climate Orbiter. Spacecraft destroyed while entering Martian orbit in September 1999.
1999 U.S. launches Mars Polar Lander. Contact lost with lander during descent in December 1999. Two microprobes "hitchhiking" on lander also fail.
2001 U.S. launches Mars Odyssey. Orbiter reaches Mars in October 2001 to detect water and shallow buried ice and study the environment. It can also act as a communications relay for future Mars landers.
2003 European Space Agency launches Mars Express. Orbiter and lander to arrive at Mars in December 2003.
2003 U.S. launches Mars Expedition Rovers. Spirit and Opportunity rovers due to land on Mars in January 2004.
Note: I ripped this info from MSNBC.
As an American, I can tell you that the US is far from perfect. Then again, the same is true for any other. The problem takes root at the Human eliment. Address the issues there, and everything else should fall into place. Be it social, political, or physical.
Smoke it up dude...
Hey scooby!! Pass the dooby!
Forget it. Programming is like doing mathmatics. Soon, everyone that can understand it, will use programming like an everyday tool for their own daily activities. In fact, I'm sure that schools around the world will have programming added in as a basic staple of education.
May I remind the rest of you coders out their to find another line or work. Stop bitching about it and face reality.
Hell, just as having experience using the computer was a job requirement for most white-collar positions in the 90s...so will programming in the future.
Those of you who are reading this post already see me as being cynical. But here is a reality check. We live in a fast paced world. Either adapt or die out from the work force!
Just keep one thing into perspective. DRM protects music from YOU. The music industry doesn't want to risk their property to be ummm...say.....shared!
If you ask me, I would rather pay a flat monthly fee and get unlimited MP3 downloads. That would keep me from having to leach off of P2P networks where the source and quality of the files are dubious at best.
I soo WISH we had public executions in the US. Maybe then the youth would grow up realising that it doesn't pay to take someone elses life.
The problem with America is that it has become way to liberal if you ask me.
nuff said.
The new iMac should be called the iLamp.
Ewwww... I don't think I want to see what a 100 year old Apple looks like.
"No, we produce more of it through science - twit."
*Sigh* Where do I even begin.... Through science we have the ability to create products such as cars, planes, trains....etc. BUT, those objects are still made out of the mass that was once inside the Earth. So, the total mass of the earth (that includes us and our creations) is still the bloody same. The only execption to that rule is when we launch objects into space such as probes and satellites.
Really, it's basic science. It's reather pathetic that I'm even taking the time to explain this on SLASHDOT of all places!!! *sigh*