Do you really believe that this is the only group of people who wants edited media? I have non-religious friends who are thrilled about edited media for their kids. Sure they're lazy, but religion has nothing to do with their decision.
I hope you get more/. stories asociated with moromons, so you can post more opinions that do not relate to the topic.
If they ditched the parallel ata, they could save a ton of pins. People couldn't reuse their old drives, but using those pins for other features would be better.
I would like to see gigabit ethernet integrated onto the AMD64 cpu. That way my blades won't even need a chipset.
Medtronic makes an implantable neurostimulator that treats the symptoms of Parkinsons and Natural Tremor.
http://www.medtronic.com/activa/physician/implan ta ble.html
The unit is implanted close to the shoulder, and the leads are fed through the neck, up to the brain.
If symptoms are isolated to one side of the body, only one set of leads are required... otherwise two sets of leads are needed to treat both sides of the body.
This is the only FDA approved implantable device for brain stimulation that I know of.
You are comparing a specialized tool to a general one. I wouldn't use PHP to parse my log files and do heavy file comparisons. I believe that web professionals using Perl are a minority of the total user base.
Ruby is to Perl what AAC is to MP3. It's certainly better, but is it worth the switch? There is just so much work (documentation,libraries) already done in Perl.
I don't mind switching, but Perl has yet to let me down.
What could 160 billion over two years buy you? (a) A war in Iraq (b) Fiberoptic network to every home in the USA (c) Moon base in 3 years, manned Mars mission in 7 (d) Discount the cost of hybrid cars (air pollution) (f) b, c, d and e
I couldn't agree with you more. I design chips, and this method has proven to be very effective. In every project there are the fun parts and tasks that no one wants to do. Having people share the good parts and bad parts (and even working together to decide who does what), lends itself to fairness and job satisfaction.
It's tough to slack because your co-workers know exactly what you what you are responsible for. They also will be able to recognize a half-ass job.
You may be able to fool your boss, but co-workers with the same skill-set and on the same project won't stand for incompitence or lazyness.
Why can't other people see the value of the xp2500+ (barton)? Mine overclocks to an equivalent 3000+, with just a small voltage increase... this cpu is the deal of the century.
It's the ability to buy individual songs that adds the extra value to online music sales... if you had to buy albums in their entirety online, you would be dead-on right about going to a record store instead.
"What really matter is if my boss considers me an expert."
You hit the nail on the head. As far as compensation is concerned, I want my boss to know that I'm a miracle-worker, and my wife to realize that I'm a major stud.
One detail that they didn't mention was the integrated AGP and DDR memory controller on Efficeon. Blades don't use graphics, so I'm thinking that Efficeon was designed primarily for Japanese laptops.
Efficeon allows for a low chip count design. That could mean a smaller and more reliable laptop design.
I'm surprised that you're the only one to think that this is a significant point. Any new silicon should perform better than previous chips... which improves the price/performance ratio.
I respect the efficiency number over the aggregate Tflops number... it shows scalability.
I think that a depreciation rate on hardware could help you factor in Moore's Law (1st year = 0% depreciation, 2nd year = 30%, 3rd year =60%, 4th year = 90%, 5th year = free to who ever picks it up).
This makes sense for urban Japan. Broadband prices went through the floor recently(http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.08/ pipedream_pr.html), and now all my friends have great 24/7 broadband connections.
This should really give iTunes a run for it's money. I believe Japanese people like fully integrated solutions... and this looks like it could deliver.
I like your approach for innovating, rather than slapping parallelism together. However, I think that the multicore cpu is seen as a low risk path to higher performace in a certain tasks.
Multimedia is seen as the application that will drive mainstream consumers to spending more money for processing power. This includes games, video editing and processing... applications that could allow dual cores to run at peak efficiency when they are needed.
My computing runs simulations that depend on past data, it has to be a single threaded. I couldn't benefit from dual cores or SMP... but I think that multimedia companies will make special ports to take advantage of this (especially with the dual G5 systems).
Innovation follows profits... or perceived profits.
personally i would rather spend my 1 hour train ride with 15 gigs of music variety... but most japanese would rather read, sleep or text-message.
people don't buy mds because they're great... they buy them because they are functional, and all their music from the last 10 years is on them.
sony's digital audio sucks... their entanglement with media production (artists) has kept them using drm that is added baggage to their hardware. it's only a matter of time until sony mainstream consumers realize that their friends have more functional hardware.
normally i don't comment about mainstream consummers... it hurts my brain to try to think at their level.
I completely agree with you... AMD could have released an athlon xp with an integrated memory controller and had similar performance gains (all in 32bits).
I need > 4GB of memory, and was looking forward to these chips. I have yet to see a motherboard with more than 4 dimm slots/cpu. A 2GB dimm is twice the price of two 1GB dimms (I was pricing them at 2GB = $1200).
I'm glad that AMD and Apple are pushing the technology ahead... but I don't see it being price effective until after another year.
I use the HP48 software emulator on my pc. I don't need a portable calculator, so I leave my old hp48sx in my closet. The emulator has a gui with all of the buttons that the physical calculator has.
Just do a google search on "hp48 emulator" and you can find a download for your os. By the way, legally you need a physical calculator to use the emulator rom.
No batteries required.
This chip would be great for database searches... it has more cache than uni-processor xeons and it probably will be cheaper.
Thanks gamers!
I guess the wait for Prescott is real... seeing that Intel had this chip on tap.
I saw 3-4x performance gains on Redhat 8.0, Xeon 2.8GHz, 4GB ECC. This was VerilogXL, NCVerilog and Design Compiler.
Your FUD doesn't hold water "anonymous coward".
"Check into AMD boxes. They run EDA tools about 10% faster than equiv. Intel boxes."
I would agree with that statement if the P4 and AthlonXP were running at the same clock speed... my experience is that an XP2500+ (@1833MHz) runs equivalent to a 2.4GHz P4. This was done using verilogxl, ncverilog, fastscan and spectreSverilog.
We use P4s because of ecc-cache and ecc-chipsets. We can't afford to lose a bit here or there. Nothing against AMD, but their MPs and Opterons are just too pricey for ecc. Choosing a good motherboard and powersupply is important too.
Features sell products... standards can help with uniform driver support.
I completely agree with you about their practical benefit. This wouldn't influence me at all.
The Earth Simulator proved the power of custom vector processors (over conventional microprocessors). The design of these vector processors are not limited unless backwards compatibility is needed (I don't think that is a real requirement). This means that there are many possible architectures that could be used to implement the vector processor.
The largest problem that I have building ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuit) is proving the power/area/performance trade-offs between different architechures. It usually takes a couple of weeks to build an architecture to benchmark... it is difficult to keep a team working on target, while listing ideas for the next itteration.
No offense against Cray, but Japanese engineers are very good at the itterative design approach (I learned this while doing my MSEE in Japan). Also, I would think that the same engineers who designed the Earth Simulator 3 years ago have been busy in the mean time... learning and improving on the design of their successful processor. Cray has some product offerings, however I would think that they would be limited in their practical design knowledge due to their lack of a prototype on the scale of the Earth Simulator.
People can invest in Cray all they want.. good luck! But, even if Ford stock went through the roof, I'm still going to drive a Toyota.
I hear that Indian students get a great education in university (and that there's tough competetion to get in). Sometimes I wish that I could have gone to a better school (instead of my state school), but my company promotes based on years with the company... so it doesn't matter anyways.
I think it's only a question of time before all non-defense development moves to India... what's going to stop the trend?
I wish them the best of luck for their hard work.
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I got 38.99MB/s reading on my old dell pc (P4 1.8, 1GB ram 7200rpm HD)...
That's almost 4x of how long it would take to go over 100BT.
Dude, you're shooting from the hip... what company do you work for? (so I can stay away from it)
I'll bite your baited comment...
/. stories asociated with moromons, so you can post more opinions that do not relate to the topic.
Do you really believe that this is the only group of people who wants edited media? I have non-religious friends who are thrilled about edited media for their kids. Sure they're lazy, but religion has nothing to do with their decision.
I hope you get more
If they ditched the parallel ata, they could save a ton of pins. People couldn't reuse their old drives, but using those pins for other features would be better.
I would like to see gigabit ethernet integrated onto the AMD64 cpu. That way my blades won't even need a chipset.
I tried to get Windows Media 9 to dump the cda to a file (instead of re-ripping a physical disk)... no dice.
Someone needs to sell a cdr driver that dumps to a file... and does it faster than the default 4x (I don't want to pay roxio a dime).
Medtronic makes an implantable neurostimulator that treats the symptoms of Parkinsons and Natural Tremor.
n ta ble.html
http://www.medtronic.com/activa/physician/impla
The unit is implanted close to the shoulder, and the leads are fed through the neck, up to the brain.
If symptoms are isolated to one side of the body, only one set of leads are required... otherwise two sets of leads are needed to treat both sides of the body.
This is the only FDA approved implantable device for brain stimulation that I know of.
You are comparing a specialized tool to a general one. I wouldn't use PHP to parse my log files and do heavy file comparisons. I believe that web professionals using Perl are a minority of the total user base.
Ruby is to Perl what AAC is to MP3. It's certainly better, but is it worth the switch? There is just so much work (documentation,libraries) already done in Perl.
I don't mind switching, but Perl has yet to let me down.
What could 160 billion over two years buy you?
(a) A war in Iraq
(b) Fiberoptic network to every home in the USA
(c) Moon base in 3 years, manned Mars mission in 7
(d) Discount the cost of hybrid cars (air pollution)
(f) b, c, d and e
I couldn't agree with you more. I design chips, and this method has proven to be very effective. In every project there are the fun parts and tasks that no one wants to do. Having people share the good parts and bad parts (and even working together to decide who does what), lends itself to fairness and job satisfaction.
It's tough to slack because your co-workers know exactly what you what you are responsible for. They also will be able to recognize a half-ass job.
You may be able to fool your boss, but co-workers with the same skill-set and on the same project won't stand for incompitence or lazyness.
Why can't other people see the value of the xp2500+ (barton)? Mine overclocks to an equivalent 3000+, with just a small voltage increase... this cpu is the deal of the century.
All for $90...
It's the ability to buy individual songs that adds the extra value to online music sales... if you had to buy albums in their entirety online, you would be dead-on right about going to a record store instead.
"What really matter is if my boss considers me an expert."
You hit the nail on the head. As far as compensation is concerned, I want my boss to know that I'm a miracle-worker, and my wife to realize that I'm a major stud.
One detail that they didn't mention was the integrated AGP and DDR memory controller on Efficeon. Blades don't use graphics, so I'm thinking that Efficeon was designed primarily for Japanese laptops.
Efficeon allows for a low chip count design. That could mean a smaller and more reliable laptop design.
I'm surprised that you're the only one to think that this is a significant point. Any new silicon should perform better than previous chips... which improves the price/performance ratio.
I respect the efficiency number over the aggregate Tflops number... it shows scalability.
I think that a depreciation rate on hardware could help you factor in Moore's Law (1st year = 0% depreciation, 2nd year = 30%, 3rd year =60%, 4th year = 90%, 5th year = free to who ever picks it up).
This makes sense for urban Japan. Broadband prices went through the floor recently(http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.08/ pipedream_pr.html), and now all my friends have great 24/7 broadband connections.
This should really give iTunes a run for it's money. I believe Japanese people like fully integrated solutions... and this looks like it could deliver.
I like your approach for innovating, rather than slapping parallelism together. However, I think that the multicore cpu is seen as a low risk path to higher performace in a certain tasks.
Multimedia is seen as the application that will drive mainstream consumers to spending more money for processing power. This includes games, video editing and processing... applications that could allow dual cores to run at peak efficiency when they are needed.
My computing runs simulations that depend on past data, it has to be a single threaded. I couldn't benefit from dual cores or SMP... but I think that multimedia companies will make special ports to take advantage of this (especially with the dual G5 systems).
Innovation follows profits... or perceived profits.
personally i would rather spend my 1 hour train ride with 15 gigs of music variety... but most japanese would rather read, sleep or text-message.
people don't buy mds because they're great... they buy them because they are functional, and all their music from the last 10 years is on them.
sony's digital audio sucks... their entanglement with media production (artists) has kept them using drm that is added baggage to their hardware. it's only a matter of time until sony mainstream consumers realize that their friends have more functional hardware.
normally i don't comment about mainstream consummers... it hurts my brain to try to think at their level.
I completely agree with you... AMD could have released an athlon xp with an integrated memory controller and had similar performance gains (all in 32bits).
I need > 4GB of memory, and was looking forward to these chips. I have yet to see a motherboard with more than 4 dimm slots/cpu. A 2GB dimm is twice the price of two 1GB dimms (I was pricing them at 2GB = $1200).
I'm glad that AMD and Apple are pushing the technology ahead... but I don't see it being price effective until after another year.
I use the HP48 software emulator on my pc. I don't need a portable calculator, so I leave my old hp48sx in my closet. The emulator has a gui with all of the buttons that the physical calculator has. Just do a google search on "hp48 emulator" and you can find a download for your os. By the way, legally you need a physical calculator to use the emulator rom. No batteries required.
This chip would be great for database searches... it has more cache than uni-processor xeons and it probably will be cheaper. Thanks gamers! I guess the wait for Prescott is real... seeing that Intel had this chip on tap.
I saw 3-4x performance gains on Redhat 8.0, Xeon 2.8GHz, 4GB ECC. This was VerilogXL, NCVerilog and Design Compiler. Your FUD doesn't hold water "anonymous coward".
"Check into AMD boxes. They run EDA tools about 10% faster than equiv. Intel boxes." I would agree with that statement if the P4 and AthlonXP were running at the same clock speed... my experience is that an XP2500+ (@1833MHz) runs equivalent to a 2.4GHz P4. This was done using verilogxl, ncverilog, fastscan and spectreSverilog. We use P4s because of ecc-cache and ecc-chipsets. We can't afford to lose a bit here or there. Nothing against AMD, but their MPs and Opterons are just too pricey for ecc. Choosing a good motherboard and powersupply is important too.
Features sell products... standards can help with uniform driver support. I completely agree with you about their practical benefit. This wouldn't influence me at all.
The Earth Simulator proved the power of custom vector processors (over conventional microprocessors). The design of these vector processors are not limited unless backwards compatibility is needed (I don't think that is a real requirement). This means that there are many possible architectures that could be used to implement the vector processor. The largest problem that I have building ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuit) is proving the power/area/performance trade-offs between different architechures. It usually takes a couple of weeks to build an architecture to benchmark... it is difficult to keep a team working on target, while listing ideas for the next itteration. No offense against Cray, but Japanese engineers are very good at the itterative design approach (I learned this while doing my MSEE in Japan). Also, I would think that the same engineers who designed the Earth Simulator 3 years ago have been busy in the mean time... learning and improving on the design of their successful processor. Cray has some product offerings, however I would think that they would be limited in their practical design knowledge due to their lack of a prototype on the scale of the Earth Simulator. People can invest in Cray all they want.. good luck! But, even if Ford stock went through the roof, I'm still going to drive a Toyota.
I hear that Indian students get a great education in university (and that there's tough competetion to get in). Sometimes I wish that I could have gone to a better school (instead of my state school), but my company promotes based on years with the company... so it doesn't matter anyways. I think it's only a question of time before all non-defense development moves to India... what's going to stop the trend? I wish them the best of luck for their hard work.