"Bottom Line:
Overall, I've found OpenOffice to be a fine MS Office replacement for my needs."
Wow! I'm sold!
He also says how he's mostly stayed away from the Excel and Powerpoint replacements because of their unreliability when working with other OOo and MS files.
Then he apologizes for OOo's lack of a grammar engine by saying it helps him learn the English language. I think a grammar engine might help with that too.
OOo hardly kicks MS Office around the block in this review. I doubt MS Office will even feel the kicking. A light tapping perhaps.
Not to mention, No Entourage clone. Which if you're a Mac user is a big deal.
lack of features, poor workability with other apps. when are people going to stop apoligizing for OSS's shortcomings?
how is the software ever going to get better if people use it and tout it even when it is substandard?
i realize i said he wasn't going to be fired right after i said he was.
he was suspended for knocking up a secretary and then stalking her while he was suspended. after breaking into the place drunk to steal money out of the tampon machine in the womens rest room, THEN he was fired.
i suspect that they were growing suspicious of his book cooking too.
i left when i realized that upper mgmt was not interested in hearing my opinion of the person they had specially selected for the job. the person they liked and were buddies with. they don't want to hear anything that reflects badly on them
if he hadn't been such a nightmare otherwise, he'd still be there. and i would probably have been shoved into a room with him and an HR person to "work out our differences".
get out while you can. in the exit interview, diplomatically explain your frustration with your managers lack of knowledge. don't vent. best you can do for whomever comes after you.
i know what it's like to work for an idiot. i worked for the manager of a high tech pre-press and print shop who was an Office Mgr right before he took this job.
F'd it up horribly and ended up being fire for that and behavioral problems unrelated to his job skills.
i quit when i realized the mgmt wasn't going to fire him, and it wasn't going to get any better.
point is, you don't tell upper mgmt they made a horrible mistake. they don't want to hear that from you, the worker. and the mgr himself will definitely not be responsive to your insight.
i don't believe the ridiculous assertion that "if i knew what you know, what do i need you for" crap i've heard some mgrs say. you need me to actually do it j*ck*ss, and you need these others to do the other things that need done around here. you going to do it all?
on the other hand, it's kind of arrogant to think that everyone around you is not worthy of their jobs if they don't know as much as you though. i see a lot of that in IT.
my advice, if you think that upper mgmt will be unreceptive to your opinions, start looking around for something else. don't try to mold the workplace to your vision, find someone who is already following it.
....has a great "Clean up Word HTML" filter. Use that, then use the "Clean up HTML"filter in the same menu specifying that it also take out font and span tags.
then go through a search and replace the few that are left. works great.
no one wants to tell individuals what to do with their lives on a daily or any other basis, pinhead.
ah, the republican penchant for twisting the words of liberals.
what i was obviously talking about was having the wisdom and foresite to realize that we need to take care of our environment seeing how it's what sustains all life on earth. not as important as building a new widget plant i know, but we like it.
i was also talking about relying on other energy sources besides fossil fuels. you know if we turn to other energy sources, it will create jobs, unless you think the energy will just magically appear in our homes. someone still has to do the work.
if the conservatives can't pull their heads out of their jesus-loving asses long enough to help us make this happen, we'll do it without them. other than that, i could not care less about running your life, and neither could anyone else.
apple is stylish because typically artists want them and make decisions not on specifications and performance to cost ratios alone but if it looks pretty in their "space".
they went out of business because of low sales due to being priced very close to Mac prices. no it was not performance, but it looked really cool
sounds like you are the one who buys computers for how they look in your office, dork.
no need to trash Apple because they managed to make a computer that looks good AND does the job better. you're just mad because your clone company couldn't make it work.
awwwwww
absolutely. i better throw away this computer because i cold use to it to file share, to type the words of a copywritten novel.
better get rid of my pens because i might use them to write something copywrighted on a piece of paper and distribute it.
i must claw out my eyes so i don't see anything i shouldn't, my ears so i don't hear it. i guess VCRs are illegal too. as well as DVD and CD burners, floppy drives, ZIPs, and anythign else that could be used in the copying of pirated software.
we also need to make sure that the news doesn't give away any trade secrets while reporting on the illegal activities of corporations, so all news broadcasts must be run by corporate america before airing.
everyone watch out for that slippery slope just ahead.
edicts about land use? you mean having enough common sense to conserve our resources? if idiots like you had enough sense to use land wisely, there would be no need for regulations dictating conservation of our resources.
america is a society that is filled with people not smart enough to prevent their own self-imposed destruction. so those of us enlightened enough to realize what needs to be done are trying to make others see the wisdom of "conservative" use of our natural resources.
try thinking of someone else for a change dumbass.
anyone who doesn't agree with the right wing-nuts is either a socialist or a communist. anyone who suggests we might want to stop companies from polluting the water and air is a control freak out to stomp on your freedoms.
got news for you. you don't have the right to pollute our environment just because you own the land you're dumping on. those activities affect others, and when what your doing affects others, they get a say.
well, the last election was the last time for a while that the conservative idiots will run this nation. all the christian right that can vote, did. they got a questionable 1% lead. a lot of the right are starting to turn though in the face of such overwhelming incompetence by this administration, and te left will be out in force again and with greater numbers next time.
we will relegate you back to the fringes of society where extremist fascists like you belong.
again, the reason Apple uses the PPC architecture is because it's superior.
the only reason they keep it running on Intel, is in case IBM decides to get out of the chip business and Apple doesn't want to get into the chip business.
it's a fallback plan. why would they go to an inferior platfrom if they had a choice?
no, wrong. if Apple had been the big cheese, and they were when the Mac first came out, they would have licensed their OS.
which they had a chance to do but didn't. so that opportunity passed. now if they did that, it would just canabalize their own market share. which it did when they did the clone thing.
would have worked back when the mac first came out, but not after windows had already dominated the market leaving others to fight over scraps. so why would Apple give clone makers and Be the chance to take their scraps?
but if MS had never come along, Apple would have licensed MacOS to other vendors rather than try to sell every PC everyone needed. but they lost that chance, and now the opportunity before them is a different one.
change what people think of a computer company and the products it sells. done.
innovate your way past the big boys and their stale rehashing of the same old products, and make them follow you again. done.
target the large untapped home market. done.
To do: out sell all others in that space. working on it.
that mentality is the only thing that has saved Apple.
if they license the OS, it will be sold to every numbnuts with 300.00 eMachines. sales of Apple hardware will plummet, and they will become another software vendor trying to sell a PC OS to Windows users.
they would then be eaten alive by MS. why would they want to be another homogeneous PC serving company and get lost in the din and confusion of a saturated market? yeah, that's a great plan, buddy.
Apple is selling a total solution, not one piece of a haphazard piecemeal solution to a problem (user needs) that no one vendor really seems to understand completely. Apple does understand, and they've put it together in a way that works.
that is what they're selling. the minute they dilute that brand by becoming one more face in the crowd. that is when they will die. the clone fiasco taught us that without doubt.
this is just left over angst from back when Windows was v1.0b and Apple could have licensed the OS. with an open market, and hungry vendors, it would have taken off and we'd all be using OSX today. Jobs also had the chance, when Windows was at 2.0 (and still sucked), to license NeXTSTEP to IBM and it would have had the same effect.
i agree. they should have done that. they didn't. live with it. and stop telling everyone that Apple should do the very thing that would sink them forever just because you want a sub-300.00 Mac.
i have news for you. you already have one. it's called a Windows PC.
3) Sex laws served two purposes. They held the family units together and guaranteed growth of the nation (more offspring than parents) as well as preserving the purity of the group. This may not make sense biologically but it avoided the cultural confusion which we Americans are so fond of.
heil Hitler. admiring your enemy, mein heir? i've never seen rampant nazism and right wing christian racsim mixed so well with warped family values. i can just see you chanting 4 more years! 4 more years! last election day.
4) The entirety of the code gave the Hebrews a sense of "something different" from their neighbors, as it continues to for those who follow it. Hence serving to unify the people and enhance a sense of nation, which is why they are just about the only cultural group of that period to have survived to the modern day.
you mean like middle eastern, indian, african(including egyptian), and the myriad of other cultures that are still around?
cultures are supposed to meld. they serve their purpose and then they are absorbed by either more dominant ones or just fade away or change with times. it's called cultural evolution. uh oh, i metioned evolution. now i've done it.
There is only one reason H1-B Visas should be denied. The state of our economy.
It is easy to feel compassion for immigrants trying to make it in the world, given that our country was started by immigrants, but we must also protect the economy that supports us all.
If we are employing outside IT workers, while US IT workers are unemployed, then we have made an error in the way we are handling immigration. Immigration should be balanced with the concerns of full US citizen employment.
Remember what happened when Europeans came over and started consuming the resources of the indiginous population unregulated and unrestrained. those people are now living in reservations with their very existance regulated by the foreign insurgent government.
It's not that I think Indian programmers, and other immigrants, are out to take over our country. The point I make with that statement is that unregulated immigration can be devastating to the current population and resources of an established nation.
We need checks and balances to protect what we intend to share with new arrivals and established citizens, to make sure it is there to partake of in the first place.
The Native American's ancestors came here from other places too, when the continents were closer together and there were land bridges they could cross. The argument that we should not balance the use of our resources because we are all decended from immigrants doesn't really make much sense when you think about things like that.
The only people who can really say there ancestors were born where they live, are Africans, who live where human life began. An established nation must balance the use of it's resources to make sure it will always have something to offer, to immigrants as well as it's own citizenry.
if by that you mean more drivers that don't work, or a choice of which items don't have drivers at all, then yes, there is more choice.
Linux is a great OS for some things, but in no way does it offer all of the hardware support and software choices of an established OS like OSX, or even Winblows.
Linux advocates point to half supported, barely working, rip-offs of office programs, and poorly written emulation, as proof that it is just as versatile.
Linux is great at serving, and for rendering 3D. there are things that Linux is great for, but it has a long way to go before it can replace OSX or Windows, or be as versatile as a server, design, programming, office, home pc, educational machine, as OSX can.
i don't think apple can do no wrong. i, and many other mac users have found ways around Apple's DRM for quite a while now. since it first started actually.
we may like iTunes, but that doesn't mean we accept Apple's DRM without fighting. my cdr is unsupported by iTunes, and yet i burn my music store downlods all the time.
mac users are fans of a superior platform, not zealots blinded by loyalty to a company. you'll never find anyone harder on Apple, or harder to please, than Mac users.
we use the best because we know the difference. and Apple works hard to make sure we get it.if they don't hit the mark, we let them know. either by word of mouth, or by circumventing the things they do that we don't like.
....being owned by a larger company where the OS is a means to an end.
look to the Novell/SUSE/Ximian deal for a glimpse of the future of Linux in the business world.
i don't think a company selling a free OS can make a profit. i think that all the current Linux distros that are looking to serve the enterprise market will eventually be consumed by it and spit back out as products of those companies running on other products of those companies.
there will still be free distros, the off the wall projects not concerned with enterprise sales, or the projects that offshoot from enterprise projects in an effort from those enterprise vendors to support the OSS community, like Fedora.
OSS programmers will continue to support the community that produces the OS that keeps them employed as Linux admins and developers, and some will work for the Novells and IBMs and contribute that way. i just don't think there will be stand alone distros that are operating to make a profit going ahead.
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...but in very creative ways
Wow! I'm sold!
He also says how he's mostly stayed away from the Excel and Powerpoint replacements because of their unreliability when working with other OOo and MS files.
Then he apologizes for OOo's lack of a grammar engine by saying it helps him learn the English language. I think a grammar engine might help with that too.
OOo hardly kicks MS Office around the block in this review. I doubt MS Office will even feel the kicking. A light tapping perhaps.
Not to mention, No Entourage clone. Which if you're a Mac user is a big deal.
lack of features, poor workability with other apps. when are people going to stop apoligizing for OSS's shortcomings?
how is the software ever going to get better if people use it and tout it even when it is substandard?
he was suspended for knocking up a secretary and then stalking her while he was suspended. after breaking into the place drunk to steal money out of the tampon machine in the womens rest room, THEN he was fired.
i suspect that they were growing suspicious of his book cooking too.
i left when i realized that upper mgmt was not interested in hearing my opinion of the person they had specially selected for the job. the person they liked and were buddies with. they don't want to hear anything that reflects badly on them
if he hadn't been such a nightmare otherwise, he'd still be there. and i would probably have been shoved into a room with him and an HR person to "work out our differences".
get out while you can. in the exit interview, diplomatically explain your frustration with your managers lack of knowledge. don't vent. best you can do for whomever comes after you.
F'd it up horribly and ended up being fire for that and behavioral problems unrelated to his job skills.
i quit when i realized the mgmt wasn't going to fire him, and it wasn't going to get any better.
point is, you don't tell upper mgmt they made a horrible mistake. they don't want to hear that from you, the worker. and the mgr himself will definitely not be responsive to your insight.
i don't believe the ridiculous assertion that "if i knew what you know, what do i need you for" crap i've heard some mgrs say. you need me to actually do it j*ck*ss, and you need these others to do the other things that need done around here. you going to do it all?
on the other hand, it's kind of arrogant to think that everyone around you is not worthy of their jobs if they don't know as much as you though. i see a lot of that in IT.
my advice, if you think that upper mgmt will be unreceptive to your opinions, start looking around for something else. don't try to mold the workplace to your vision, find someone who is already following it.
go west young man! or somewhere else......
sure you can. why on earth not? br> all you have to do is make it obsolete.
"There's only one computer worth wetting yourself for."
Or "Would you be willing to beat someone for a used Thinkpad? We didn't think so."
....has a great "Clean up Word HTML" filter. Use that, then use the "Clean up HTML"filter in the same menu specifying that it also take out font and span tags.
then go through a search and replace the few that are left. works great.
or copy plain text and reformat.
....release OS/2 or sell customers IBM Linux solution? what to do, what to do....
DUH!
so Kai Staats felt up Bill Gates?
no one wants to tell individuals what to do with their lives on a daily or any other basis, pinhead.
ah, the republican penchant for twisting the words of liberals.
what i was obviously talking about was having the wisdom and foresite to realize that we need to take care of our environment seeing how it's what sustains all life on earth. not as important as building a new widget plant i know, but we like it.
i was also talking about relying on other energy sources besides fossil fuels. you know if we turn to other energy sources, it will create jobs, unless you think the energy will just magically appear in our homes. someone still has to do the work.
if the conservatives can't pull their heads out of their jesus-loving asses long enough to help us make this happen, we'll do it without them. other than that, i could not care less about running your life, and neither could anyone else.
apple is stylish because typically artists want them and make decisions not on specifications and performance to cost ratios alone but if it looks pretty in their "space".
they went out of business because of low sales due to being priced very close to Mac prices. no it was not performance, but it looked really cool sounds like you are the one who buys computers for how they look in your office, dork.
no need to trash Apple because they managed to make a computer that looks good AND does the job better. you're just mad because your clone company couldn't make it work.
awwwwww
absolutely. i better throw away this computer because i cold use to it to file share, to type the words of a copywritten novel.
better get rid of my pens because i might use them to write something copywrighted on a piece of paper and distribute it.
i must claw out my eyes so i don't see anything i shouldn't, my ears so i don't hear it. i guess VCRs are illegal too. as well as DVD and CD burners, floppy drives, ZIPs, and anythign else that could be used in the copying of pirated software.
we also need to make sure that the news doesn't give away any trade secrets while reporting on the illegal activities of corporations, so all news broadcasts must be run by corporate america before airing.
everyone watch out for that slippery slope just ahead.
edicts about land use? you mean having enough common sense to conserve our resources? if idiots like you had enough sense to use land wisely, there would be no need for regulations dictating conservation of our resources.
america is a society that is filled with people not smart enough to prevent their own self-imposed destruction. so those of us enlightened enough to realize what needs to be done are trying to make others see the wisdom of "conservative" use of our natural resources.
try thinking of someone else for a change dumbass.
anyone who doesn't agree with the right wing-nuts is either a socialist or a communist. anyone who suggests we might want to stop companies from polluting the water and air is a control freak out to stomp on your freedoms.
got news for you. you don't have the right to pollute our environment just because you own the land you're dumping on. those activities affect others, and when what your doing affects others, they get a say.
well, the last election was the last time for a while that the conservative idiots will run this nation. all the christian right that can vote, did. they got a questionable 1% lead. a lot of the right are starting to turn though in the face of such overwhelming incompetence by this administration, and te left will be out in force again and with greater numbers next time.
we will relegate you back to the fringes of society where extremist fascists like you belong.
....run Quake on it?
again, the reason Apple uses the PPC architecture is because it's superior.
the only reason they keep it running on Intel, is in case IBM decides to get out of the chip business and Apple doesn't want to get into the chip business.
it's a fallback plan. why would they go to an inferior platfrom if they had a choice?
no need for a UPS
which they had a chance to do but didn't. so that opportunity passed. now if they did that, it would just canabalize their own market share. which it did when they did the clone thing.
would have worked back when the mac first came out, but not after windows had already dominated the market leaving others to fight over scraps. so why would Apple give clone makers and Be the chance to take their scraps?
but if MS had never come along, Apple would have licensed MacOS to other vendors rather than try to sell every PC everyone needed. but they lost that chance, and now the opportunity before them is a different one.
change what people think of a computer company and the products it sells. done.
innovate your way past the big boys and their stale rehashing of the same old products, and make them follow you again. done.
target the large untapped home market. done.
To do: out sell all others in that space. working on it.
that mentality is the only thing that has saved Apple.
if they license the OS, it will be sold to every numbnuts with 300.00 eMachines. sales of Apple hardware will plummet, and they will become another software vendor trying to sell a PC OS to Windows users.
they would then be eaten alive by MS. why would they want to be another homogeneous PC serving company and get lost in the din and confusion of a saturated market? yeah, that's a great plan, buddy.
Apple is selling a total solution, not one piece of a haphazard piecemeal solution to a problem (user needs) that no one vendor really seems to understand completely. Apple does understand, and they've put it together in a way that works.
that is what they're selling. the minute they dilute that brand by becoming one more face in the crowd. that is when they will die. the clone fiasco taught us that without doubt.
this is just left over angst from back when Windows was v1.0b and Apple could have licensed the OS. with an open market, and hungry vendors, it would have taken off and we'd all be using OSX today. Jobs also had the chance, when Windows was at 2.0 (and still sucked), to license NeXTSTEP to IBM and it would have had the same effect.
i agree. they should have done that. they didn't. live with it. and stop telling everyone that Apple should do the very thing that would sink them forever just because you want a sub-300.00 Mac.
i have news for you. you already have one. it's called a Windows PC.
3) Sex laws served two purposes. They held the family units together and guaranteed growth of the nation (more offspring than parents) as well as preserving the purity of the group. This may not make sense biologically but it avoided the cultural confusion which we Americans are so fond of.
heil Hitler. admiring your enemy, mein heir? i've never seen rampant nazism and right wing christian racsim mixed so well with warped family values. i can just see you chanting 4 more years! 4 more years! last election day.
4) The entirety of the code gave the Hebrews a sense of "something different" from their neighbors, as it continues to for those who follow it. Hence serving to unify the people and enhance a sense of nation, which is why they are just about the only cultural group of that period to have survived to the modern day.
you mean like middle eastern, indian, african(including egyptian), and the myriad of other cultures that are still around?
cultures are supposed to meld. they serve their purpose and then they are absorbed by either more dominant ones or just fade away or change with times. it's called cultural evolution. uh oh, i metioned evolution. now i've done it.
There is only one reason H1-B Visas should be denied. The state of our economy.
It is easy to feel compassion for immigrants trying to make it in the world, given that our country was started by immigrants, but we must also protect the economy that supports us all.
If we are employing outside IT workers, while US IT workers are unemployed, then we have made an error in the way we are handling immigration. Immigration should be balanced with the concerns of full US citizen employment.
Remember what happened when Europeans came over and started consuming the resources of the indiginous population unregulated and unrestrained. those people are now living in reservations with their very existance regulated by the foreign insurgent government.
It's not that I think Indian programmers, and other immigrants, are out to take over our country. The point I make with that statement is that unregulated immigration can be devastating to the current population and resources of an established nation.
We need checks and balances to protect what we intend to share with new arrivals and established citizens, to make sure it is there to partake of in the first place.
The Native American's ancestors came here from other places too, when the continents were closer together and there were land bridges they could cross. The argument that we should not balance the use of our resources because we are all decended from immigrants doesn't really make much sense when you think about things like that.
The only people who can really say there ancestors were born where they live, are Africans, who live where human life began. An established nation must balance the use of it's resources to make sure it will always have something to offer, to immigrants as well as it's own citizenry.
...now they're sending my job into space
Let 'em know....
Linux offers more choices that OSX?
if by that you mean more drivers that don't work, or a choice of which items don't have drivers at all, then yes, there is more choice.
Linux is a great OS for some things, but in no way does it offer all of the hardware support and software choices of an established OS like OSX, or even Winblows.
Linux advocates point to half supported, barely working, rip-offs of office programs, and poorly written emulation, as proof that it is just as versatile.
Linux is great at serving, and for rendering 3D. there are things that Linux is great for, but it has a long way to go before it can replace OSX or Windows, or be as versatile as a server, design, programming, office, home pc, educational machine, as OSX can.
i wish that wasn't true, but it is.
i don't think apple can do no wrong. i, and many other mac users have found ways around Apple's DRM for quite a while now. since it first started actually. we may like iTunes, but that doesn't mean we accept Apple's DRM without fighting. my cdr is unsupported by iTunes, and yet i burn my music store downlods all the time. mac users are fans of a superior platform, not zealots blinded by loyalty to a company. you'll never find anyone harder on Apple, or harder to please, than Mac users. we use the best because we know the difference. and Apple works hard to make sure we get it.if they don't hit the mark, we let them know. either by word of mouth, or by circumventing the things they do that we don't like.
look to the Novell/SUSE/Ximian deal for a glimpse of the future of Linux in the business world.
i don't think a company selling a free OS can make a profit. i think that all the current Linux distros that are looking to serve the enterprise market will eventually be consumed by it and spit back out as products of those companies running on other products of those companies.
there will still be free distros, the off the wall projects not concerned with enterprise sales, or the projects that offshoot from enterprise projects in an effort from those enterprise vendors to support the OSS community, like Fedora.
OSS programmers will continue to support the community that produces the OS that keeps them employed as Linux admins and developers, and some will work for the Novells and IBMs and contribute that way. i just don't think there will be stand alone distros that are operating to make a profit going ahead.