"And that means that as many people as possible should know about the problem as early as possible, because any closed list (or even just anybody sending a message to me personally) just increases the risk of the thing getting lost and delayed for the wrong reasons.'"
I don't disagree with what Linus is saying, but what difference does it make if 10 people are informed rather than 10 million when it still doesn't change the fact that only a select few can change the official kernel source? People in production environments aren't going to apply a patch created by Joe in his basement, they're going to want an official kernel patch.
If the ones responsible for the affected part of the kernel are slow to handle a security issue, full disclosure IMHO is a bad thing.
One could argue that full disclosure would motivate those responsible to fix the problem faster, but this is not always the case.
If Linus is the only person that can change a specific part of the kernel, what good does notifying the world instead of just him do?
"OK, so now what's going to stop police from hiding GPS units on many cars parked on the street in high crime neighborhoods and tracking thousands of potential suspects?"
Cost. Technology is expensive. Storing data costs money. Paying staff to process said data is even more expensive. If you're going to start tracking "thousands of potential suspects" in the same neighborhood...GPS is not the way to go, cameras are.
"The scientists came up with the Deep Impact name independently of the movie studio, around the same time, neither knowing the other was choosing it, even though some members of NASA's Deep Impact team were consultants on the picture."
I'm sure you just forgot this after reading the article, but the names of the movie and project were apparently derived independently of each other--and around the same time.
It's not like 2004 rolled around and someone who saw the movie decided to call the project 'Deep Impact'
"Why was he doing this in the first place? If he had malicious intent then he deserves to go to jail but if he was just screwing around I think a small fine and some community service is in order"
Explain to me exactly how pointing such a device at an aircraft in flight is NOT malicious?
Yes, laser pointers are fun to play with. The thing is, they're only fun to play with when you get to see the results of your actions. In this case, i can't see any proof of "success" other than abrubt deviation by the aircraft--or worse.
We're not exactly talking about shining a laser into the headlights of a parked car to see the pretty red glow of the reflection.
I just don't accept that his intent was not malicious--even if he was too stupid to realize it at the time.
" They wrote the operating system. They already know about the next security flaw....they already know about the next big worm. They just won't act upon it until someone on the outside discovers it and/or exploits it. This opens the door to preemptive protection against the spyware that exploits the security flaws."
Ok...if they know about the next flaw, and the next worm...shouldn't they fix the actual problem instead of "preemptive protection against the spyware?"
If they'd just fix the problem to begin with, we wouldn't need to remove the spyware in the first place. Yes, MS seems to only patch after an exploit is in the wild so it's not possible to patch the problem before it is exploited; in which case any action taken by that time isn't preemptive at all, it's reactive.
Now that it's on slashdot, I'm sure they'll need that $30,000 for bandwidth bills:(
Just FYI, their paypal address appears to be support@lokitorrent.com. If you're going to post a story about a site taking donations to fight a lawsuit, at least include a way to donate AFTER you Slashdot their site to hell and back.
"Philips actually had a finished LCos TV set ready for production. I saw it at a compliance testing lab that they use last January. I am not sure what kept them from marketing the set but I know that the lab tech said that it had problems with its RF emissions."
It already exists. Albeit I've only seen it done with Motorola's line of modems...but it is certainly possible and has been done. The only catch is that the cloned modem can't be on the same node as the original because you'll have 2 modems with the same hardware address fighting for access...unless of course you have SNMP access to the modems and remotely shut down the original.
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"It s horrible thing to say but I was hoping AIDS could push world population down to a mangeable level."
You're right! Let's start with you.
It's always easy to make such comments until you're the one affected.
Seriously, AOL has a history of taking a good product and milking all the cash they can out of it. (Ads in AIM/ICQ anyone?) To a lesser extent winamp (Pro version)
I wouldn't be surprised if they "refresh" Netscape with a firefox engine and an Opera business model to milk some more pennies from advertising.
In the end its all business...AOL doesn't do anything without the goal of profit.
"I'm guesing that this is another case of our administration confusing "National Security" with "Politically Undesirable"."
I'm going to play devil's advocate here...if you were those prisoners would you want humiliating images of you readily available to the world? I can't imagine anyone saying "Yea, that would be great! Now the world can see what happened to me!"
I can't speak as to why Google is censoring the images, IF they really are...but I can think of several reasons to do so that have nothing to do with Big Brother conspiracies.
they need your phone number to determine if fttp is available in your area. I don't have a land line--only a cell phone... suggestions?"
Use the # of a neighbor or nearby business. There isn't going to be much of a difference if you use a number from a building across the street or nearby location unless you happen to be on the edge of some kind of service area.
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"And that means that as many people as possible should know about the problem as early as possible, because any closed list (or even just anybody sending a message to me personally) just increases the risk of the thing getting lost and delayed for the wrong reasons.'"
I don't disagree with what Linus is saying, but what difference does it make if 10 people are informed rather than 10 million when it still doesn't change the fact that only a select few can change the official kernel source? People in production environments aren't going to apply a patch created by Joe in his basement, they're going to want an official kernel patch.
If the ones responsible for the affected part of the kernel are slow to handle a security issue, full disclosure IMHO is a bad thing.
One could argue that full disclosure would motivate those responsible to fix the problem faster, but this is not always the case.
If Linus is the only person that can change a specific part of the kernel, what good does notifying the world instead of just him do?
Oil free by 2050? I guess those robots won't need fossil fuels.
"OK, so now what's going to stop police from hiding GPS units on many cars parked on the street in high crime neighborhoods and tracking thousands of potential suspects?"
Cost. Technology is expensive. Storing data costs money. Paying staff to process said data is even more expensive. If you're going to start tracking "thousands of potential suspects" in the same neighborhood...GPS is not the way to go, cameras are.
"The scientists came up with the Deep Impact name independently of the movie studio, around the same time, neither knowing the other was choosing it, even though some members of NASA's Deep Impact team were consultants on the picture."
I'm sure you just forgot this after reading the article, but the names of the movie and project were apparently derived independently of each other--and around the same time.
It's not like 2004 rolled around and someone who saw the movie decided to call the project 'Deep Impact'
Because science is not measured by how many people we send into space.
That's funny, I'm posting this from a laptop bridged to my network via a Belkin 802.11g AP and strangely my laptop hasn't melted as a result.
That's more than I can say for the 3 dead ones I can see on my shelf at the moment. (2 linksys 1 netgear)
"France is huge, what can you do? Throw 'em out of Europe? hardly!"
No need to throw them out of Europe. Just march on Paris...apparently that's been proven a feasible task.
"Why was he doing this in the first place? If he had malicious intent then he deserves to go to jail but if he was just screwing around I think a small fine and some community service is in order"
Explain to me exactly how pointing such a device at an aircraft in flight is NOT malicious?
Yes, laser pointers are fun to play with. The thing is, they're only fun to play with when you get to see the results of your actions. In this case, i can't see any proof of "success" other than abrubt deviation by the aircraft--or worse.
We're not exactly talking about shining a laser into the headlights of a parked car to see the pretty red glow of the reflection.
I just don't accept that his intent was not malicious--even if he was too stupid to realize it at the time.
" They wrote the operating system. They already know about the next security flaw....they already know about the next big worm. They just won't act upon it until someone on the outside discovers it and/or exploits it. This opens the door to preemptive protection against the spyware that exploits the security flaws."
Ok...if they know about the next flaw, and the next worm...shouldn't they fix the actual problem instead of "preemptive protection against the spyware?"
If they'd just fix the problem to begin with, we wouldn't need to remove the spyware in the first place. Yes, MS seems to only patch after an exploit is in the wild so it's not possible to patch the problem before it is exploited; in which case any action taken by that time isn't preemptive at all, it's reactive.
Now that it's on slashdot, I'm sure they'll need that $30,000 for bandwidth bills :(
Just FYI, their paypal address appears to be support@lokitorrent.com. If you're going to post a story about a site taking donations to fight a lawsuit, at least include a way to donate AFTER you Slashdot their site to hell and back.
"Philips actually had a finished LCos TV set ready for production. I saw it at a compliance testing lab that they use last January. I am not sure what kept them from marketing the set but I know that the lab tech said that it had problems with its RF emissions."
Maybe it was sending a distress signal.
It already exists. Albeit I've only seen it done with Motorola's line of modems...but it is certainly possible and has been done. The only catch is that the cloned modem can't be on the same node as the original because you'll have 2 modems with the same hardware address fighting for access...unless of course you have SNMP access to the modems and remotely shut down the original.
"It s horrible thing to say but I was hoping AIDS could push world population down to a mangeable level."
You're right! Let's start with you.
It's always easy to make such comments until you're the one affected.
It has been around longer than 5 years, and if you had ever used it you'd know it has plenty common features (virtual desktops, for one)
I *believe* e17 was a total rewrite, which is why those features are missing...simply because the rewrite hasn't been completed yet.
"How many people will just read the headline and not read the comments, and automatically think that Firefox is having widespread problems?"
I think most of the audience will wait for Netcraft to confirm it at the very least.
I'd agree with the other numerous comments above that this is NOT the Mozilla support site/forum/mailing list where this kind of thing belongs.
"Just wait until someone writes an aimbot."
:)
Next thing you know the guy will put the platform on tracks/wheels for mobility, and slap a TX-01 (*cough* TeXas *cough*) label on it
Because there's gold in them thar code...
Seriously, AOL has a history of taking a good product and milking all the cash they can out of it. (Ads in AIM/ICQ anyone?) To a lesser extent winamp (Pro version)
I wouldn't be surprised if they "refresh" Netscape with a firefox engine and an Opera business model to milk some more pennies from advertising.
In the end its all business...AOL doesn't do anything without the goal of profit.
"Let me know when they find my girlfriend's heart."
Let me know if they find a scary looking guy with a pitch-fork, red skin, and horns walking around as well...
" 2004.3 falls on April 19, 2004.
Today (November 14) is more like 2004.87."
The release schedule is based upon quarterly releases, 2004.0 being the first quarter, 2004.1 being the second, and so on...
At least, that was the original intent. I'm not sure if they hit every release within the intended quarters though.
"I'm guesing that this is another case of our administration confusing "National Security" with "Politically Undesirable"."
I'm going to play devil's advocate here...if you were those prisoners would you want humiliating images of you readily available to the world? I can't imagine anyone saying "Yea, that would be great! Now the world can see what happened to me!"
I can't speak as to why Google is censoring the images, IF they really are...but I can think of several reasons to do so that have nothing to do with Big Brother conspiracies.
"Instead, the planetlike moon appears to have a bizarre, mysteriously smooth surface"
That's no moon, it's a space station!
" Ship building will be a joke for anyone without millions of credits and or resources. The same goes for buying a ship."
That's what credit dupes are for! You didn't really think those were exploits did you?
" ok, here's a question:
they need your phone number to determine if fttp is available in your area. I don't have a land line--only a cell phone... suggestions?"
Use the # of a neighbor or nearby business. There isn't going to be much of a difference if you use a number from a building across the street or nearby location unless you happen to be on the edge of some kind of service area.
It would be cheaper, easier, and more healthy to get the driver to lose 50lbs before slimming down the car with new wiring.