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Deep Impact Blasts Off For Comet Tempel 1

Wynken de Word writes "NASA's Deep Impact, a copper-fortified, comet-busting spacecraft, was launched Wednesday afternoon. 'NASA had a single second - at precisely eight seconds past 1:47 p.m. - to send Deep Impact on a 431-million-kilometre, six-month voyage to Comet Tempel 1.' The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside. Also see the Deep Impact site."

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  1. Do You Suppose... by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Do you suppose there may be people on earth who might be angred by a blasphemous attack on a heavenly chariot?

    "cor! they put a ding in our chariot! call AAA!"

    I sure hope they did a better job of packing this one.

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    1. Re:Do You Suppose... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you suppose there may be people on earth who might be angred by a blasphemous attack on a heavenly chariot?

      No, because they're all dead.

    2. Re:Do You Suppose... by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      No, because they're all dead.

      Ah, but we scarcely knew the existed at all, before they spectacularly killed themselves.

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    3. Re:Do You Suppose... by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Read the last story on Deep Impact, it may be in the science section only. There most certainly were a couple of badly informed peeps whining about us possibly destroying a unique member of our solar system :)

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    4. Re:Do You Suppose... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      I went to your link and started reading a bit. I never knew any specifics about their beliefs except the part about how there was a UFO behind Hale-Bopp. The site was talking about how "Do" came to earth 2000 years ago with his female companion "Ti," whom he called "heavenly father." I couldn't help but think of the nerds from Dude, Where's my Car (long live Zoltran!). It's like they took a bunch of elements of Christianity and added their own weird twist on it, then threw in a few sci-fi-ish names. I could imagine them running around the bubble-wrap suits when they all went out to have turkey pot pie (rumored) the night before their big suicide party.

  2. Damn by TheKidWho · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where is Bruce Willis when you need him.

    1. Re:Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who knows. With the way his career has started to go, he might star in a movie version of this experiment, opposite Savanah Samson. (Yes, I'd watch it.)

    2. Re:Damn by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...Hopefully filming a decent movie! ;)

    3. Re:Damn by colonslashslash · · Score: 0, Troll
      ..Hopefully filming a decent movie! ;)

      Haha, yeah right! If only my mod points hadn't just expired, you'd get +1 fucking hilarious. ;)

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    4. Re:Damn by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Hey, Twelve Monkeys wasn't so bad...

    5. Re:Damn by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Bruce Willis is included in the mission.

      He is being sent compressed on the mini data CD.

      Look here

      I'm torn however, whilst this does mean we will survive, does it mean that the MPAA will sue Nasa for unlicensed copyright infringement?

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    6. Re:Damn by sconeu · · Score: 1

      He was funny in his Oceans Twelve cameo.

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    7. Re:Damn by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      In therapy trying to understand that the Space Shuttle does not in actual fact handle like a crossbreed between the Millenium Falcon and a New Mini (damn are those things sweet handlers)

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  3. I betcha by froggero1 · · Score: 1

    The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside i bet it's rock inside... just a guess :)

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    1. Re:I betcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That or nougat and caramel.

    2. Re:I betcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Um, no. Comets are ice (in theory).

    3. Re:I betcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center... ah, nevermind

    4. Re: I betcha by wasted · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know if they will find rock or not. I looked inside of my can of Comet(TM) and all that is inside is some greenish white cleanser.

    5. Re:I betcha by froggero1 · · Score: 1
      wow, that i didn't know...

      thanks for the info, probably one of the few times i actually learnt something from a slashdot post!

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    6. Re:I betcha by Datamonstar · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is another slightly smaller comet inside...

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    7. Re:I betcha by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Maybe, a better bet would be ice. And then what types of rock, what metals if any? It is believed that comets are made of some of the oldest stuff in the solar system.

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    8. Re:I betcha by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      My god, it's full of stars!

      Oh no wait, it's just a rock.. You were right.

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    9. Re:I betcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You absolute idiot.

  4. How do instruments survive the crash?? by teaDrunk · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Wouldn't the impact destroy all instruments? or after making a dent, will they plan to send another carft to look at it :-)

    1. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by grub · · Score: 5, Informative


      That's all mentioned in the article, which I'm sure you read but forgot. A TV sized unit will seperate a day earlier and go smack into the "big rock". The other craft will monitor from a safe distance.

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    2. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by Metzli · · Score: 1

      It's similar to the idea behind Cassini and Huygens. The main craft "drops off" an impactor and records the results, then sends them back to Earth.

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    3. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by teaDrunk · · Score: 1

      true, I only speed read it. But I assumed mothership monitors for some info sent out by the impacter.

    4. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by aducore · · Score: 1

      The probe is going to separate. The part that impacts will be taking pictures (and sending them back) up to the moment of impact. The other part will observe from a safe distance.

    5. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 1

      I believe the mothership will be taking measurements of whatever is expelled... but I didn't RTFA so I don't really know.

    6. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by teeks99 · · Score: 1

      The probe that is going to hit the surface will take readings (pictures) until a moment before impact, and send them (very quickly) to the mothership. A moment later the "impactor" will be vaporized and leave a big hole.

      The mothership (as well as telescopes on and around earth) will be watching to see the hole and the stuff that gets shot out from the impact.

    7. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by ehiris · · Score: 1

      msnbc.com has a video clip explaining all that using computer animation.

    8. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      TV sized? I heard it was Washing Machine sized, anyway, how big a TV?

    9. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by grub · · Score: 1


      Err.... a washing machine sized television? :) I just used the "size" given in the article.

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    10. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

      How can you call Huygens an "impactor"? It's a piggybacked probe, not an impactor. In fact, they're hoping that it will still be transmitting even after it lands (it has a small surface science package), although it'll be hitting at a pretty high speed for that, so who knows.

      I know this must make me a real geek, but I've been really excited lately... just think - in 1 day 10 hours, we'll have our first probe ever on Titan, one of the most interesting bodies in the solar system, and one that keeps stubbornly frustrating scientists ;) They'll probably start getting raw images up in 2 to 2 1/2 days... ah, what a nice Friday that will be ;)

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    11. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by uncoveror · · Score: 1

      The observation probe may only be taking pictures of a UFO blowing up the impact probe, just before it is blasted to space dust just like CONTOUR.

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    12. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by Metzli · · Score: 1

      It was poor phrasing. I wasn't trying to state that Huygens is an "impactor," more that the similar utilization of a "mothership" and "probe" will be used.

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    13. Re:How do instruments survive the crash?? by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      Have you seen the size of some of these rear projection sets? They make a washing machine look puny. Maybe NASA was thinking of a big honking WEGA.

  5. Yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wont the inhabitants of this comet regard this as an act of war?

    1. Re:Yes but... by darth_linux · · Score: 1

      haven't we joked about us earthlings being a set of tasty treats for our alien overlords?

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    2. Re:Yes but... by adeydas · · Score: 1

      Actually Bush believes Laden might be hiding there...

  6. editorializing by phriedom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Do comets and our own planet have something in common? This clever mission could answer the question once and for all. "

    Very rarely is anything complex answered once and for all.

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    1. Re:editorializing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do comets and our own planet have something in common?

      Yes, they are both made out of atoms. Next question?

    2. Re:editorializing by zonker · · Score: 0

      *BOOOM* oops, there goes the neighborhood...

    3. Re:editorializing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do comets and our own planet have something in common?

      We are so careful about not contaminating the moon or mars, but give no thought to protecting the fragile environment of this pristine celestial object.

    4. Re:editorializing by shrikel · · Score: 1
      In this case, it may well be.

      For example, if Deep Impact actually collides (including any measurable gravity-only interactions) with the comet, then we'll know that the comet and our planet have something in common - they're material objects. Therefore, this experiment CAN answer something once and for all.

      On the other hand, if there is no collision, and the spacecraft passes right through the comet ghost-like, then we'll know that the comet has less in common with Earth than we might otherwise expect.

      As for complexity, any metaphysics philosopher or string theorist (is there a difference? [ducks]) could tell you that the nature of matter (or this new strange substance, in case there's no collision) is anything but simple.

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    5. Re:editorializing by TexVex · · Score: 1
      As for complexity, any metaphysics philosopher or string theorist (is there a difference? [ducks]) could tell you that the nature of matter (or this new strange substance, in case there's no collision) is anything but simple.
      No joke. I just read yesterday where the old laster-through-the-double-slit experiment was done using cold rubidium atoms instead of photons. They produced the expected interference pattern, showing that wave-particle duality applies to matter in the form of atoms.

      The strange (as in weird quantum physics strange) part is, when weak radio waves are used to detect which slit each atom goes through, the interference pattern disappears. Theoretically, the radio waves would have such a negligible impact on the paths of the atoms that the "which-way" measurement can be performed without disrupting the atoms' trajectory to a significant degree. That should have eliminated a great deal of uncertainty generated by the measurement, allowing the interference pattern to form while gaining more knowledge about the paths of the individual particles.

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  7. 1:47:08.574 p.m? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not metric time!

  8. Intentional? by StevenHenderson · · Score: 5, Funny
    For the first time, NASA is setting off on a collision course with a comet

    Good to see that for once a crash-course is intentional for NASA. Mayhap they have found their niche... :)

    1. Re:Intentional? by Metzli · · Score: 1

      Assuming all of their calculations were done using the same units of measurement.....

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    2. Re:Intentional? by over_exposed · · Score: 1

      Nah... they'll miss :-)
      *ducks*

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    3. Re:Intentional? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      actually knowing NASA's luck, it will probably float gently down to the surface and make a perfect soft landing.

    4. Re:Intentional? by shrikel · · Score: 1

      Though strictly speaking, any interaction between two massive bodies (even if only a gravitational interaction) can be described as a collision.

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  9. More information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I was recently reading a book which talked about the possibility of projects such as this. It is well worth a read if you can get your hands on it.

    Also, the article says how a lot of the simulation was done on Open Source software, namely this. Give it a download.

  10. I was just thinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside.

    Is that what has happened to the goatse-guy?

    1. Re:I was just thinking... by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1

      Oh man, why did you have to bring up that memory? I ask because my coffee is coming with it. *Urp*

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  11. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They will find cheese !

  12. Where has originalty gone? by Teknikill · · Score: 1

    Someone at NASA is a fan of Paramonunt's 'Deep Impact' (1998)

    1. Re:Where has originalty gone? by Halthar · · Score: 1

      Actually, if the article I read was correct, they decided on the name around the same time the movie was either in production, or moving towards production. It mentioned that some of the people on the project also consulted for the movie, but it's possible that they did actually take the name for this project before the movie.

    2. Re:Where has originalty gone? by nuclear305 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm sure you just forgot this after reading the article, but the names of the movie and project were apparently derived independently of each other--and around the same time.

      It's not like 2004 rolled around and someone who saw the movie decided to call the project 'Deep Impact'

    3. Re:Where has originalty gone? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Rewind to Jan 2nd, and search. (You can pick up a few +5 posts for reuse while you're there.)

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    4. Re:Where has originalty gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, given the choice between a name based on a crappy thriller like "Deep Impact" and a name based on a porn movie (think "Deep Penetration"), I can't say I'm surprised with their choice.

    5. Re:Where has originalty gone? by TLLOTS · · Score: 1

      ...and here I was thinking those nerds at NASA just watched a lot of porn.

  13. As always ..... by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

    As always there are updates at spaceflightnow.com. It appears the spacecraft has safed itself as of a few minutes ago....not good.

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    1. Re:As always ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What in the world does "safed itself" mean?

    2. Re:As always ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it probably saw its future and decided today is not a good day to crash.

    3. Re:As always ..... by Halthar · · Score: 5, Funny

      It means the rocket blue screened and rebooted inself into safe mode. Unfortunately as a result of this it's only going to send back images at 640x480.

    4. Re:As always ..... by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's OK now, according to NASA, it deployed it's solar panels and oriented itself like it was supposed to.

      They're saying it was most likely a non-critical glitch with a temperature sensor that kicked in the failsafe.

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    5. Re:As always ..... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Temperature sensor eh? I think the probe is getting cold feet. "You want me to what?!"

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  14. future news by Norgus · · Score: 5, Funny
    "nasa accidentally redirects comet, now headed for earth"

    Doh!

    1. Re:future news by teaDrunk · · Score: 1

      and after the impact, scientists are still unable to make sense of what goes on there.

    2. Re:future news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Hence the name, "Deep Impact".

    3. Re:future news by snake_dad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know you are kidding, but on the off chance that anyone actually believes that: the impact is a bit like trowing a pingpong ball in front of a speeding truck. There is simply not enough kinetic energy to significantly alter the orbit of the comet, definately not enough to put it in an Earth intercepting orbit.

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    4. Re:future news by felis_panthera · · Score: 1

      what if "what's preserved inside" is some sort of giant mutant space lizard

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    5. Re:future news by Rei · · Score: 1

      I think your sig says it all.

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    6. Re:future news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am i the only one who sees a tremendous possibility of dissaster? imagine someone from the al-kaida (or how ever osamas buddies spell it) was to hack into the communications system and find a way to reprogram the satellite to send the "probe" to punch a whole say into new york city? i would be a little comfortable knowing this isnt just a remote possibility but something impossible.

    7. Re:future news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be more likely for it to crash into Mars. The comets' path currently intersects it's orbit, but is just going the wrong speed.

  15. Perhaps the most interesting quote of the article by heyitsme · · Score: 4, Funny

    The impactor will disintegrate instantly when it hits, as will its small payload, a compact disc containing more than 500,000 names of people who wanted to vicariously tag along.

    Man, I want to be on that CD!

  16. If missed.... by fred911 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "NASA had a single second - at precisely eight seconds past 1:47 p.m. - to send Deep Impact on a 431-million-kilometre, six-month voyage to Comet Tempel 1" Missing this window of oportunity will prevent the residents of ISS their yearly alotment of ice, a necessary precursor for snowcones.

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    1. Re:If missed.... by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Just curious, are you on drugs? If so, which?

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  17. What a terrible idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, it's all fun and games until you knock it off course and it crashes into some guy's house in China.

  18. umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does anyone else find it disturbing that NASA named a mission aimed to penetrate a comet after a [bad] movie about a comet penetrating the Earth?

    I guess it's better than Armageddon - they probably couldn't get funding for that one.

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    1. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by daquake · · Score: 1

      They actually came up with theis mission at the same time the movie was being filmed. The name has nothing to do with the film, contrary to everyone's speculation. :)

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    2. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      The names are unrelated. This project was in development and was dubbed Deep Impact long before the movie started filming.

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    3. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by MortgageMan · · Score: 0

      >Armageddon - they probably couldn't get funding >for that one.
      >

      Actually I think the Bush administration would be MORE THAN WILLING to fund any project named Armageddon...

    4. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by nuclear305 · · Score: 1

      "The scientists came up with the Deep Impact name independently of the movie studio, around the same time, neither knowing the other was choosing it, even though some members of NASA's Deep Impact team were consultants on the picture."

    5. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by nizo · · Score: 1

      What better name for a mission to test the technology they will use to deflect a real comet that unbeknownst to us will strike earth in a few years?

    6. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by bcattwoo · · Score: 1
      Does anyone else find it disturbing that NASA named a mission aimed to penetrate a comet after a [bad] movie about a comet penetrating the Earth?

      Supposedly this mission and the movie were conceived of around the same time and the names were just coincidentally the same. Supposedly.

    7. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone else find it disturbing that NASA named a mission aimed to penetrate a comet after a [bad] movie about a comet penetrating the Earth?

      Well why not? You wanted to know the real reason the comet comes hurtling toward Earth in the first place, didn't you? Consider this experiment a sort of "prequel" to the movie.

    8. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      You know how it is these days -- branding is everything!

    9. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I read in the Boston Globe that this project had begun and been given a name before the movie actually came out.

    10. Re:umm..Deep Impact like the movie?? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      no of course not, they would never be so crass. in other news NASA anounce thier newly planed mars lander, 'Lord of the Rings'

  19. What's inside? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Rock.
    M$'s sense of morality.
    Linux community's sense of Joe6Pack Useability(tm)
    A chewy creamy center

    1. Re:What's inside? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the powerbook G5

    2. Re:What's inside? by robogymnast · · Score: 1

      Step 2?

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    3. Re:What's inside? by felis_panthera · · Score: 1

      they're definately going to find CowboyNeal's secret hideout in that comet... and he's gonna be pissed...

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  20. Collision Insurance by MortgageMan · · Score: 0

    unfortunately for NASA they didn't check with their local Insurance mafia and so they're rates are going to SKYROCKET!!!!

  21. Re:Wonderful by nuclear305 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because science is not measured by how many people we send into space.

  22. Hmmph! by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Do comets and our own planet have something in common? This clever mission could answer the question once and for all. "

    Very rarely is anything complex answered once and for all.

    Obviously you don't read the Weekly World News.

    BTW, chief NASA engineer Bat Boy assures me that everything is going as planned.

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  23. I predict this will miss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to be negative, but I predict a miss.

  24. Ingredients by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    i bet it's rock inside... just a guess :)

    Rock, ice, a funny little guy with a trojan helmet (squashed by the probe), a dog with a trojan helmet, a gumball machine full of instant martians and MSG.

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  25. Paybacks a bitch... by SwedeGeek · · Score: 1
    Hopefully the comet doesn't pissed at us and "drop" by for a visit.

    My bunker is ready. Is yours???

  26. you CAN be on that cd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i assume that they didn't write those names with a sharpie, but rather with a text file and cd burner software. its just arbitrary encoding to me, the way i would read that disc is that it contains MY name and noone else's :P

    1. Re:you CAN be on that cd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you says works with sharpies too. You can write down your name and I'll read it as "fucking moron".

  27. Possible implications by davidmcn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We, as a race, don't know all that much really about "whats out there." But we are still able to figure out where a comet is going to be an how to impact it. But did we stop to think about the possible implications this mission could have on the universe? They were talking on the news about how it will probably make a crater the size of a football field. We already know that that is a huge amount of force.

    Think about it like this, you have an 800 pound mass (the 1st rocket, destined for impact) traveling at 37000 kph. Effectively creating the force of 4 and a half tons of TNT going off. If this explosion happened at the surface it would probably make no difference whatsoever, but its not. Will this impact alter the trajectory of the comet? It might only slightly shift it, but for a planet far far away, that slight shift might be enough to cause a ELE on the planet that the comet might now ultamitely hit.

    I realize its a longshot scenario, and I'm sure taken into account at some point. But was it taken seriously enough?

    Anyway, just my little, "are we considering everything" thoughts....

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    1. Re:Possible implications by bcattwoo · · Score: 1
      It might only slightly shift it, but for a planet far far away, that slight shift might be enough to cause a ELE on the planet that the comet might now ultamitely hit.

    2. Re:Possible implications by bcattwoo · · Score: 1
      Whoops! A little quick with the enter button on my first try.

      It might only slightly shift it, but for a planet far far away, that slight shift might be enough to cause a ELE on the planet that the comet might now ultamitely hit.

      Or we may alter the trajectory such that it now avoids a collision. The spared aliens, appreciating our act of mercy, will decide to not invade our planet and steal out precious bodily fluids.

    3. Re:Possible implications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been thinking the same thing. Various news reports have quoted NASA officials as saying they didn't have any idea what would happen on impact due to not having any idea what the comet was made of. What if its fragile, has stress cracks, and simply breaks up with the pieces spinning off into random orbits. "Oops".

    4. Re:Possible implications by another_henry · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      You're a fucking idiot. Learn some orbital mechanics.

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    5. Re:Possible implications by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's possible to predict the solar system very far into the future with very high accuracy, since it's an almost perfect Newtonian system- it's in a vacuum, so there's no friction, and the masses and volumes involved are very large, so there are no tiny, chaotic behaviors to worry about. About the only thing that could make for a large inaccuracy in the prediction is a massive body NASA hasn't detected yet, but AFAIK the last time that happened was the discovery of Pluto in 1930. NASA knows exactly what this impact will do to the comet's path.

    6. Re:Possible implications by Severious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Any species advanced enough to figure out that we were responsibe for deflecting a rock and to travel light years seeking retribution for our misdeeds is advanced enough to deal with said space rock before it does any harm.

      Not to mention that rock is in orbit around the Sun so it is much more likly it will hit us than anyone else.

      I think you are vastly overestimating our ability to have any effect the rest of the galaxy let alone our own solar system.

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    7. Re:Possible implications by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Read another_henry's post. It applies to you too.

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    8. Re:Possible implications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aspirate my soiled whitie tighties, butt pirate.

    9. Re:Possible implications by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      Impossible. The comet is gravitationally bound by the Sun; to escape the solar system would require the addition of far more energy than this probe will deliver.

      Whether the comet will shift onto a course that will impact the Earth a billion years from now, when it otherwise would have missed... well, to be honest, who cares? On that timescale, this comet is as likely as any other given comet to hit us - and additionally, just as likely to hit us if we give it a random nudge as if we don't...

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    10. Re:Possible implications by another_henry · · Score: 1

      Flamebait? Parent was flamebait. Mine was a flame.

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  28. Launch Window by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just to clarify, Deep Impact didn't have a launch window of only 1:47:08 PM EST, it also could have launched at 1:08:20 PM EST for 12 January 2004. It actually had until 28 January to launch.

  29. Re:Wonderful by peter303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By how many we get back alive?

  30. Re:Wonderful by dustinbarbour · · Score: 1

    'Cause the Shuttle is old. It's only good for LEO and, to be quite honest, LEO is boring. We need better spacecraft to take us any further than our front porch. So I say let the Shuttle go the way of the dodo bird. Perhaps keep one or two around for emergency work, but certainly don't go upgrading the thing. Start afresh!

  31. If it misses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    could the copper impactor hit the earth some time of the future?

    1. Re:If it misses... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      And what would be wrong with that?

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    2. Re:If it misses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll get a 370 kg penny crashing into your house...

    3. Re:If it misses... by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      What's that work out to in Euros?

  32. Who wouldn't? by Racter · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the ultimate disc of greatest hits.

    1. Re:Who wouldn't? by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1

      Come on people, this deserves more then a mere +1 funny ;)

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  33. The question is by Kipsaysso · · Score: 1

    Will this save us if there is a comet on a collision course?

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  34. Childish, I know . . . by Raccroc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Deep Impact - $330 millon dollars and it looks like a vibrator...Where the fuck are the jokes?

  35. Inside by af_robot · · Score: 1

    The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside

    *** MUST RESIST GOATSE JOKES ***

  36. wack Saturn moon tommorrow! by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On a related topic, Huygens impacts Saturn 36 hours from the time of this posting. This is the most distant physical impact ever (since Galileo sailed into Jupiter's clouds). Will we find rock, ice, or a hydrocarbon ocean?

    1. Re:wack Saturn moon tommorrow! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I'll be happy with ANYTHING discovered
      apart from a monolith.

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    2. Re:wack Saturn moon tommorrow! by peter303 · · Score: 1

      The monolith was on Iapetus. That moon appeared to have such a strong albedo contrast across different hemispheres in pre-19698 telescopes that it seemed unnatural.

    3. Re:wack Saturn moon tommorrow! by Jenty · · Score: 0

      and here i thought it'll descent into Titan, Saturn's biggest moon..

    4. Re:wack Saturn moon tommorrow! by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      That moon appeared to have such a strong albedo contrast across different hemispheres in pre-19698 telescopes that it seemed unnatural.

      19698 and you *still* haven't gone there yourself??? Have the Republicans been in charge all this time?

      Max

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  37. Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by Rob+Carr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First, NASA is fixing the shuttle as much as it can be fixed. We really need a better launch system for humans and probably a separate heavy launch system. Shuttle reliability and cost/kg in orbit have some integral problems.

    Second, there's a heck of a lot we need to know about space. For example, the comet will tell us what the early solar system was made of. This is useful in that it tells us about the remnants of supernovas that produce most of the elements we're made of (except for hydrogen). The data will help us fine-tune our understanding of how our solar system was created - are Earth-like planets rare or common?

    Lastly, taking a longer view, this is a preparatory mission for man's emergence from the cradle Earth. We'll know what comets are made of, how they're put together (rubble or solid) and what we'll need to know to move them. Why move a comet? Two reasons - one, if one's aimed at Earth, it would be a useful skill. Two, if you want to provide a cheap source of water, comets might be a good source, either placed into orbit, or deposited on Mars for use by colonies later.

    Karma Killer:

    1. Smack comet into Mars
    2. 2. Colonize
    3. 3. Profit!

    I for one welcome our comet-moving overlords - as long as it's we ourselves.

    In Russia, the probe hits the comet!

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    1. Re:Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by Ibanez · · Score: 1

      Wow. Covering all possible clichés in one post. I don't know what to say.

      Oh, you FORGOT COWBOYNEAL!

      It was a worthy effort though, and you shall be commen...remembered.

    2. Re:Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by Rob+Carr · · Score: 1

      They really should take away my computer when I pull an all-nighter vacuuming water out of my basement.

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    3. Re:Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by kamileon · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't happen to be Rob Carr formerly of Private Idaho, would you? (Totally offtopic question, I realize, but if so, you were indirectly a formative influence on my career as a geek.)

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    4. Re:Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      Not even just that, but comets could make an excellent fuel source depending on their composition. A facility could be dropped onto a comet, use material mined from the comet to steer it into a more suitable orbit, and then continue to mine fuel for other craft passing through to pick up.

      I can even imagine a long-accelleration system for interstellar travel which would basically involve building a habitation facility around a comet, and using the comet for propulsion (for example, by planting a nuclear reactor on its surface to selectively melt parts of it). It may not be feasible, but it's a pretty cool idea.

    5. Re:Smacking Comets vs. Fixing Shuttle by Rob+Carr · · Score: 1

      Nope. Not me.

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  38. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by strelitsa · · Score: 1
    Man, I want to be on that CD!

    Don't worry, 17 "Mike Hunt"s are already listed on the CD. Its nice to see that we're sending our sense of humor along with our hardware.

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  39. Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Tea Leoni by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was anyone else cheering for the big wave at the end of that movie?

  40. Re:Wonderful by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1
    How about fixing the freaking the shuttle, instead of playing match box cars with a rock?

    Yeah, then we could resume vital activities like looking after zero-G ant farms.

  41. In that case, should have called it TESB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Empire Strikes Back

  42. Strange by KinkifyTheNation · · Score: 1

    Odd that they didn't mention anything about the CD they sent up with it.

    1. Re:Strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did mention the CD with the names on it.

  43. the NASA presskit is funny by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    on one hand, it states "[the impactor]is designed to obliterate itself, as it excavates a crater possibly large enough to swallow the Roman Coliseum", but also "In the world of science, this is the astronomical equivalent of a 767 airliner running into a mosquito."

    I'm not an aerospace engineer, but is it possible for a mosquito to make a crater on the surface of a 767 airliner?

    1. Re:the NASA presskit is funny by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      If the mosquito were made out of copper, and there were a 37000mph speed differential, I would say that the 767's skin would take a nice dent.

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    2. Re:the NASA presskit is funny by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      If the mosquito was made of solid copper, it'd put a ding in it.

      If the 767 was made of ice, it'd be an even bigger ding.

      Now if we were the size of a bacteria, the ding would look like a good sized crater to us.

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    3. Re:the NASA presskit is funny by M1FCJ · · Score: 1

      Is it an african mosquito or european one?

    4. Re:the NASA presskit is funny by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      I think you're asking the wrong question. The way I read that sentence, the 767 is the subject and the mosquito is the object. I'm wondering how big of a crater the 767 will punch in the surface of the mosquito.

    5. Re:the NASA presskit is funny by esanbock · · Score: 1

      It's not about the material it's about the mass and velocity. Getting hit by a 1 lb weight made out of wood hurts just as much as a 1lb weight made out of lead. Maybe NASA doesn't know the difference between english and metric, but they undertand basic physics.

  44. Is it just me or... by NickABusey · · Score: 1
    Is it just me, or does a project by NASA called Deep Impact with the intent of blowing up a meteor sound a little suspicious?

    Ohhh Suuureee, they just want to "see what's inside" and not "divert a catastrophic E.L.E.".

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  45. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 1

    Sweet.. i wasnt sure if i signed up to be on that cd.. but i did... along with my brothers name, my moms name, my dads name, my 2 dead dogs names and my 1 living dogs name 7 family members are going to crash into that comet, yay!

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  46. Deep Impact Blasts Off For Comet Tempel 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, that's deep.

  47. Silly scientists... by gearmonger · · Score: 1

    ...everybody knows that comets have chewy caramel centers.

  48. I'm on board by digitalgimpus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    well, in name only.

    They had a website where you can submit your name to be burnt onto a Gold CD, which was attached to the impactor.

    I figured it was my only way of saying I was in space.

    And the only way to say that I pulled a Bruce Willis (armageddon).

  49. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    Theres a few good ones.

    All
    the lonely children of the universe!

    Billy (greedy, theres lots)

    Unsurprising really, but I wonder if it was one the editors

    and one more (omg @ this)
    Brucey!

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  50. Re:Wonderful by lucat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fact that you do not understand something doesn't mean that you can say that it is useless or unworthy. Bye, Luca

  51. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    I'm there. (Unless there's a bill from the Comet Aliens. [Or worse like in David Brin's story in the Jan/Feb Analog.] Then it was someone else.)

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  52. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by strelitsa · · Score: 1

    My personal favorite (obviously a Pump Up The Volume fan)

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  53. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by stratjakt · · Score: 1

    There are plenty of Ben Dovers too.

    And a few Ben Dover AnTakeIt's, some Seymour Buttz'. Amanda Hugandkiss is there. It's nice to see that Phil McCracken and Hugh Jass are invloved. What of Jenny Talia?

    Are NASA this stupid or what? I'd be pissed if I was one of the guys who signed up thinking my name was going to be part of a serious scientific venture.

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  54. OMFG NO NO NO! What if it... by greymond · · Score: 1

    What if it misses and DESTROYS THE MOON!!!

    Then we'll have gone to far and the world will end in chaos, with man living as animals and psychic mutnnnts ruling the world. :D

  55. Decent movie might be Die Hard 4 by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 0, Troll

    Check it out. With some luck, this could be a movie that might give us faith again into those action movies where everything is all over the place.

  56. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by RealAlaskan · · Score: 2, Funny
    I was wondering if anyone else had read that story in Analog. My co workers put my name on that CD, and then that story came out, and I wondered if they'd really done me a favor.

    If the aliens from the comet come and start killing the folks named on that CD, I'll just have to hope that my cow orkers mispelled my name, as usual.

  57. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by X0563511 · · Score: 0

    Wait a minute, won't that affect the measurements?

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  58. Prono? by Tangwei · · Score: 0

    Am I the only pervert who is getting to many pr0n refrences out of this? Deep Impact, Deep Impact Blasts, probe...

  59. Oh noes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't NASA know! Tempel is made of people!

  60. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    I was disappointed that I'm number 470957, but maybe that's not such a bad thing if they go in numerical order. ("No, in your face # 470956!")

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  61. Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside.

    Ahh, it's nice to see NASA adopting the same respect for the environment that got mankind where it is today.

    "Whatcha think's in that comet?"
    "Could be ice, could be life... I dunno. Let's blow it up and see!"

    I mean, OK, it's unlikely that life could be living on the comet, but isn't there a less destructive way to learn about it before opting for the fireworks?

  62. Yes, they have something in common... by johannesg · · Score: 0, Troll

    Earth and that comet are both places where humanity is invading, waging war, and making a total nuisance of itself...

    1. Re:Yes, they have something in common... by Phragmen-Lindelof · · Score: 1

      Earth and that comet are both places where humanity is invading, waging war, and making a total nuisance of itself...
      That's right; go team go. :-)

    2. Re:Yes, they have something in common... by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      Earth and that comet are both places where humanity is invading, waging war, and making a total nuisance of itself

      Oh please. Don't act like one of those morons who thinks we should 'preserve' the 'environment' of the solar system, and never, ever change anything, for any reason. That sort of mindset is just plain pathetic.

      Max

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    3. Re:Yes, they have something in common... by johannesg · · Score: 1
      Beautiful. Second time in two weeks I'm modded "troll" for making a joke.

      Tell you what: next time I'll try to be funny I'll include plenty of guidelines for sarcasm-impaired moderators...

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  63. Bad wording or bad idea? by mswope · · Score: 2, Interesting

    'The goal is to blast a big hole in the comet and check out what's preserved inside.'

    Won't the impact change the makeup/properties of what *was* preserved inside? If nothing else, it's going to have a higher than normal copper content (and some bits of plastic from that CD).

    On the other hand, it does sound like fun. I *love* blowing stuff up!!!

    1. Re:Bad wording or bad idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      matter cannot be created nor destroyed

  64. A few thoughts about comets... by rubberbando · · Score: 1

    Has anyone ever wondered if comets are possibly ancient spaceships or satelites that may or may not be working anymore and have accumulated a bunch of space crud?

    I mean, say a ship had taken some damage in space and its air and water leaked out, wouldn't it just freeze around the ship?

    Then you add any dust particles that it encounters sticking to it so that over thousands of years, it just ends up looking like the dirty ice balls we all see through our telescopes.

    I know it sounds all sci-fi and stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if we find some ancient fossilized life on that thing (simple or complex).

    Just a thought... :-)

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  65. Soundproofing comets by soundproofing.noise · · Score: 1

    i thought i got first post but then realised this was -1 S.P.A.M. (Sound Proof Advertising Marketing)

  66. I wonder by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1

    If the person that discovered this comet is pissed that NASA is going to blast a big hole in it. Or pleased that it's going to be used in such a big experiment.
    /shrug
    Just thinking out loud

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    1. Re:I wonder by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      You mean discovered this century?

  67. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1

    If only our telescopes were that good.
    Scientist:Odd we seem to be detecting a bit of plastic, so that's what the universe is made out of!

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  68. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1) It's a little late for that now

    2) It will be far too late for these 500,000 people to realize their mistake when the inhabitants of the comet decide to hunt down and kill the 500,000 people who signed their name to this missle designed to attack their home...

  69. Mod Up by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 1

    Funniest thing I've read in a while.

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  70. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by caino59 · · Score: 1

    and one more (omg @ this)
    Brucey!

    wasnt he there already?

  71. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by robogymnast · · Score: 1

    No you don't - The spammer who collected all 500,000 names is strapped in right next to it ;)

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  72. Re:Perhaps the most interesting quote of the artic by felis_panthera · · Score: 1

    Are NASA this stupid or what? I'd be pissed if I was one of the guys who signed up thinking my name was going to be part of a serious scientific venture.

    why?? how does someone elses sense of humour at all detract from the value of your contribution?? If they wanted to spend the money on making sure Hugh Jass was represented, it's no skin off of you, my or anyone elses ass...

    ye gods.. just because you're a crufty stick in the mud doesn't mean EVERYONE else is...

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  73. why hello there, did you know I drive a tractor by j.a.mcguire · · Score: 0

    when I was a child I thought that comets were giant flares sent by aliens which light up when they're near a star (a source of life!) and if you traced back their trajectory, you'd find the origin of the people that sent them. Now I know better though: they're WMD!

  74. I suspected that a new Harry Potter book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would require some celestial intervention.

  75. originality by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

    couldnt they have made up a better name? come on... its depressing

  76. Better headline by Teahouse · · Score: 1

    Earth declares war on another celestial body, invasion fleet launches to intercept!

    It's ALL about the marketing.

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  77. July 4 will be busy in Hawaii this year. by Shag · · Score: 1
    I've heard that Karen Meech, who's one of the investigators on the Deep Impact science team, will be coordinating observations from a bunch of the Mauna Kea Observatories using different instruments, different wavelengths, et cetera.

    (Yes, I will be asking if I can be "on shift" that night... and if I don't get lucky, I'll probably go partway up the mountain for some stargazing and perhaps a look at a comet.)

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  78. Once again... by Keslyle · · Score: 1

    Once again I have to wonder if NASA is really necessary anymore. I realize that there's a whole lot of people that wouldn't really have a field anymore if it was shut down, but seriously. If they've got nothing better to do than to launce a jeep-sized camera so we can make a dent in a comet and take pictures of it, they need to find something better to do, or someone else's money to do it with. Aside from the notion itself being a ridiculous waste of money, let's just look at the details shall we? Or should I say the lack there of? They don't know what it looks like, they don't know what it is, they think the core is oblong shaped. Great, let's toss a grenade at it and see what happens. What a great, brilliant, and might I add extremely well thought out proposal. I'll be right with you, I just need to go get a bag of rocks to throw at people so I can see what they're like with dents in them.

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  79. The comet will be gone before decent pics can be by dolphin558 · · Score: 1

    taken methinks. Even at roughly 300 miles the comet is still moving very fast relative to the mothership who will be snapping away. I am afraid of just getting blurred images sent back or worse no good close-ups at all since the comet could be out of view by the time the camera starts snapping. We're talking 23,000 mph!!

  80. Finally revealed ... by quarkscat · · Score: 1

    That comets are really extra-terrestrial
    spacecraft flying in "stealth" mode.
    And they are really going to be pissed
    about NASA's deliberate collision. NASA
    can expect an envoy from the intergalactic
    transportation safety board (ITSB), demanding
    just compensation for damage to the space
    craft, as well as delaying/impeding/traumatizing
    the intergalactic travelers.

  81. Mosquito makes a dent, assuming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    > is it possible for a mosquito to make a crater on the surface of a 767 airliner

    I am Anonymous Coward, but still I think a mosquito flying into a cruising 767 at 45,000 feet at 600 MPH would create a 13x4 cm diameter conical impact crater (calculations done on old newspaper) - of course assuming that the mosquito is made of copper and the aircraft is made of icy methane...

    Anyone who has read Gulliver's Travels know that things don't scale up or down very well.
  82. US will shoot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at anything. Another proof

  83. A miss by fourlugas · · Score: 1

    I keep coming back and reading the comments on this one. Some are kind of interesting. Every time I read something on it, I can't help but have the desire for a huge build up with an agonizing roar of "AAAWWWW!!!!" as it misses the rock by a 100 meters or so. Not that I want to see the mission fail, but I rarely complain when things like this do. It's just kind of funny.