Time and again the doomsday scenario always comes up. Time and again people tend to work things out. These Knee-jerk reactions are what cause more problems then there should be with putting fear into people that don't understand technology. Maybe we should put more into education instead...
Where others see fear, others see opportunity, the future is not bleak and I can see sooooo many ways that AI's will useful, (I build AI's, not in the Data mining kind, but in really building hard AI thinking machine kind.) AI's are a good thing and a natural progression to the human endeavor, in fact most people in the future will have AI implants in them just like they have phones today.
People should be more worried about Genetic engineering then AI.
Wow this is great!
now I can have multi-Layered displays. Like virtual desktops, but layered on top of each other.
One could have a game running, another videos, another some desktops. I frequently have more than one computer on at the same time and it's a pain to keep switching between them.
Can't wait for those Dell multi-layered displays.
Doom was so popular that there were several ports made of it. The shareware version, you had to buy the game to get the maps to play though. One was for Silicon Graphics SGI machines, these were small desktop versions we had at the Artificial Intelligence University Lab. Well we had Doom on them:) We had 5 of them networked together in a small glassed in room next to the robotics lab and we would play Deathmatch everynight, night after night (like from 9PM to 3AM) for about a year, then people finally started to get stuff done and graduate:)
This was in the good old days where it was keyboard/only vs keyboard/mouse. Yes you learn great moves like how to strafe and your fire and how BSP trees were set up on the levels so you can take advantage of that to shoot in 2D and get someone above or below you in 3D, and how to do rocket jumps, I never got a hang of that would always blow myself up. And where the BFG was at:)
We had an un-official leaderboard and you could tell who was better then others at it.
Wow yes, good times, everyone there went on to do great stuff, and is still doing great stuff. Good Times captured in a fleeting moment of computer and game history when everything was new and still developing.
But unless they can make money or find a way to support them selves then no one is going to care. Are you going to pay your your downloaded great -great-grandmother to exist in the Immortality Net?
This is a very common occurrence where you do some set of actions repeatably and then your brain builds what is called a chunk that is one action of all those actions, then your brain does that chunk of action after that and you don't really think about it. It's like driving a car and then after going thru a light, thinking, did I just go thru a red or green light. It was more than likely green and your mind recognized it as such, but you don't really recall the details much later as your mind does not think it's important anymore. So if this guy has frequently been putting it into that mode and got used to it, then mostly likely, as oppose to what the OP says, that he DID put it into that mode, but forgot. Humans are quite failable and don't remember details about stuff, and the longer the time passes between when the action occurred, your mind will forget it. Your mind is capable of keeping 7+/- 1 things in short term memory, so this guy going to talk about other stuff, crossing the road, look at traffic or people, figuring out where the place is, trying to recognize the person, remember if he locked the car, or has what ever he was bringing to the place, and if it was most likely more than 5 mins, then the initial putting it into that mode and getting out of the car was forgotten by then. So he may not be lying per se, just not remembering it correctly.
The problem with people making these kinds of statements is that they have no idea what it means to actually code up a project. The creativity can only go so far, you need someone to implement it. Game, SFX, AI, all of that and more require lots of code and there will always be new things to do, change, implement. Its like saying back in the 80's well we've done it all, now the computers can take over. Only to see everything change when mobile devices came about and everything else since then.
Unless you actually have done it, you don't know what your talking about.
The people that can afford it take Uber not the bus. People what to get from Point A to Point B in the shortest fastest and most comfortable way. Once the Uber cars become autonomous then it's like your own personal bus and almost the same cost. Here in LA the buses are fast and used alot and they have speed lines, But the people that ride the buses are not complaining they are not fast enough or want them to be more dangerous. Trying to change an outdated system to get people that would not ride them anyways. Revolutionize and democratize, not incrementalize.
Yes this is a big thing. But it is only showing that computer programs are better at pattern recognition and searching then humans in a constrained environment. Go is more complicated than chess, but the computer in both cases is playing the best optimized move that it can and it can definitely search much deeper in the game tree than a human can and in a faster way. The program has no intuition because it is only simulating a certain part of the reasoning process that we use. Humans have the ability to bring in much more external experience and apply it to the problem. Even a 2 year old child could play GO to some level.
He can always try a different tactic that the program has not be trained on, think outside the box.
Demis Hassabis is a smart guy so I'm sure there will be more to come from this GO program.
I was there for the talk, he showed a demo of the game. It really was amazing. It's the first universe simulator that I have ever seen.
All procedurally generated, I am sure there are some limitations to it.
He will be showing it at E3, so execpt a xmas release.
This is a game unlike any others, if you like sandbox games.
You can also view this as a high risk investment, over the term of the lottery investment your gains may be close to zero, but once and ahwile they might pay off. But you should also diversify in 401K's and whatnot.
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Time and again the doomsday scenario always comes up. Time and again people tend to work things out. These Knee-jerk reactions are what cause more problems then there should be with putting fear into people that don't understand technology. Maybe we should put more into education instead... Where others see fear, others see opportunity, the future is not bleak and I can see sooooo many ways that AI's will useful, (I build AI's, not in the Data mining kind, but in really building hard AI thinking machine kind.) AI's are a good thing and a natural progression to the human endeavor, in fact most people in the future will have AI implants in them just like they have phones today. People should be more worried about Genetic engineering then AI.
Wow this is great! now I can have multi-Layered displays. Like virtual desktops, but layered on top of each other. One could have a game running, another videos, another some desktops. I frequently have more than one computer on at the same time and it's a pain to keep switching between them. Can't wait for those Dell multi-layered displays.
Doom was so popular that there were several ports made of it. The shareware version, you had to buy the game to get the maps to play though. One was for Silicon Graphics SGI machines, these were small desktop versions we had at the Artificial Intelligence University Lab. Well we had Doom on them :) We had 5 of them networked together in a small glassed in room next to the robotics lab and we would play Deathmatch everynight, night after night (like from 9PM to 3AM) for about a year, then people finally started to get stuff done and graduate :)
This was in the good old days where it was keyboard/only vs keyboard/mouse. Yes you learn great moves like how to strafe and your fire and how BSP trees were set up on the levels so you can take advantage of that to shoot in 2D and get someone above or below you in 3D, and how to do rocket jumps, I never got a hang of that would always blow myself up. And where the BFG was at :)
We had an un-official leaderboard and you could tell who was better then others at it.
Wow yes, good times, everyone there went on to do great stuff, and is still doing great stuff. Good Times captured in a fleeting moment of computer and game history when everything was new and still developing.
But unless they can make money or find a way to support them selves then no one is going to care. Are you going to pay your your downloaded great -great-grandmother to exist in the Immortality Net?
This is a very common occurrence where you do some set of actions repeatably and then your brain builds what is called a chunk that is one action of all those actions, then your brain does that chunk of action after that and you don't really think about it. It's like driving a car and then after going thru a light, thinking, did I just go thru a red or green light. It was more than likely green and your mind recognized it as such, but you don't really recall the details much later as your mind does not think it's important anymore. So if this guy has frequently been putting it into that mode and got used to it, then mostly likely, as oppose to what the OP says, that he DID put it into that mode, but forgot. Humans are quite failable and don't remember details about stuff, and the longer the time passes between when the action occurred, your mind will forget it. Your mind is capable of keeping 7+/- 1 things in short term memory, so this guy going to talk about other stuff, crossing the road, look at traffic or people, figuring out where the place is, trying to recognize the person, remember if he locked the car, or has what ever he was bringing to the place, and if it was most likely more than 5 mins, then the initial putting it into that mode and getting out of the car was forgotten by then. So he may not be lying per se, just not remembering it correctly.
There are only 5, the O is in a quantum state...
It's finally happened the Scientology spacecraft has come to take them all away..
In that case..I am as much a politician as Palin is...
Actually there is already a prototype. https://www.pinterest.com/lear...
I think the title was Slashdot Banned on Aprils Fools Day in China.
The problem with people making these kinds of statements is that they have no idea what it means to actually code up a project. The creativity can only go so far, you need someone to implement it. Game, SFX, AI, all of that and more require lots of code and there will always be new things to do, change, implement. Its like saying back in the 80's well we've done it all, now the computers can take over. Only to see everything change when mobile devices came about and everything else since then. Unless you actually have done it, you don't know what your talking about.
The people that can afford it take Uber not the bus. People what to get from Point A to Point B in the shortest fastest and most comfortable way. Once the Uber cars become autonomous then it's like your own personal bus and almost the same cost. Here in LA the buses are fast and used alot and they have speed lines, But the people that ride the buses are not complaining they are not fast enough or want them to be more dangerous. Trying to change an outdated system to get people that would not ride them anyways. Revolutionize and democratize, not incrementalize.
Don't worry too much about it, the Autonomous Robots will soon come to take all those jobs.
Just come on down to Sunny LA, there are plenty of open Beaches here!
Yes this is a big thing. But it is only showing that computer programs are better at pattern recognition and searching then humans in a constrained environment. Go is more complicated than chess, but the computer in both cases is playing the best optimized move that it can and it can definitely search much deeper in the game tree than a human can and in a faster way. The program has no intuition because it is only simulating a certain part of the reasoning process that we use. Humans have the ability to bring in much more external experience and apply it to the problem. Even a 2 year old child could play GO to some level. He can always try a different tactic that the program has not be trained on, think outside the box. Demis Hassabis is a smart guy so I'm sure there will be more to come from this GO program.
If you want to see and hear some real ture dat rap, this is where I go :)
http://www.epicrapbattlesofhis...
Yeah, right. only auditory and visual cues...
Well I posted this 'Yea right' comment, but My AI beat me too it and posted it as an anonymous coward.
So are they faster than light?
Oh, I thought the car became self aware and the on-board AI decided that it needed to past the test to stay alive! :)
And this means I can't get Modded Funny for no reason also.
I'm glad you mentioned Empire. This was the basis that all RTS games were built on, and it still has more depth then all of them.
Also don't forget Hack and all it's variants. This is what Diablo and all hack and slash games were based on.
And Crossfire - Multi user dungeon crawl.
Nettrek - enough said.
abbermud or any variant.
And X-Pilot.
And there were tons of games in the original unix disto that were the basis for all today. Including maze.
And, this is the best part, they were all OpenSource and anyone could change them.
I was there for the talk, he showed a demo of the game. It really was amazing. It's the first universe simulator that I have ever seen. All procedurally generated, I am sure there are some limitations to it. He will be showing it at E3, so execpt a xmas release. This is a game unlike any others, if you like sandbox games.
If you outlaw P2P then only outlaws will use P2P. Or so the saying goes, I guess that is how they think they can stop this.
You can also view this as a high risk investment, over the term of the lottery investment your gains may be close to zero, but once and ahwile they might pay off. But you should also diversify in 401K's and whatnot.
You don't need a prototype anymore, just a concept of its implementation. This was told to be by a patent attorney.