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Kanye West Is Reportedly Considering Legal Action Against the Pirate Bay

An anonymous reader writes: Kanye West apparently has a new mission: to sue The Pirate Bay. Last weekend, West announced that his new album, The Life of Pablo, would be sold exclusively as a download from his website and the artist-driven streaming music service Tidal. The news sent Tidal to No. 1 on the U.S. Apple App Store, so West pulled the album from his site and announced it wouldn't be released on other streaming services. The Internet responded by pirating his album in droves.

311 comments

  1. God this guy in an idiot by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And his music is terrible.

    1. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well show him you don't care by torrenting it then!

    2. Re:God this guy in an idiot by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      This is going to be a hilarious shitshow of comments from people who rule at loving the blues.

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    3. Re:God this guy in an idiot by old+and+new+again · · Score: 2

      music?

    4. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thanks Kanye, I needed a laugh!

    5. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I pirated this twice, just so I could delete it twice. Screw you Kanye West. You suck, and everyone knows it.

    6. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He meant "music".

      Not to mention that Kanye West is an insecure cock-sucking sack of shit.

    7. Re:God this guy in an idiot by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

      And his music is terrible.

      Yep, TBP should sue Kanye for slander/deformation on behalf of their users for insinuating that they listen to his crap (like all rap, I cant call it music).

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    8. Re:God this guy in an idiot by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Sadly, if you want a horrible album by an egotistic weirdo, Good Times is easier to listen to, so long as you skip the tracks where Kim Dotcom is actually singing.

    9. Re:God this guy in an idiot by mattventura · · Score: 1

      When I saw the "entertainment" tag on the story, I thought it referred to how entertaining it is to watch people try to take action against TPB.

    10. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you think any rap is thought provoking, then your experiences with music are extremely limited or you're an idiot.

    11. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, man, are you a mind reader? "IDIOT" was the first word that came to my mind while reading the post.

    12. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What? I thought a kanye was a kind of salad popular in Africa!

    13. Re:God this guy in an idiot by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not all bad. A good part of what Macklemore writes is in deliberate rejection of the 'gangsta' culture that is usually associated with rap music. While most rappers brag about their wealth, his rise to fame was a song mocking them for wasting their money on status symbols and bling.

    14. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should listen to Deepak Chopra; you'll like his meaningful sounding empty words.

    15. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's basically the reason. If it was for the music, it would be filed under "your rights online" like any torture story.

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    16. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Funny

      Flash that buttery gold, jittery zeitgeist
      Wither by the watering hole, water patrol
      What are we, a heart huckabee, art fuckery suddenly?
      Not enough young in his lung for the water wings?
      Colorfully vulgar poacher at a mulch like
      'I'ma pull the pulse out a soldier and bolt.' (Fine)
      Sign of the time we elapsed
      When a primate climb up the spine and attach
      Eye for an eye, by the bog's life swamps and vines
      They get a rise out of frogs and flies
      So when a dog fights hog-tied prize sorta costs a life
      The mouths water on a fork and knife
      And the allure isn't right
      It's gore on a war-torn beach
      Where the cash cows actually beef
      Blood turns wine when I leak for police
      Like 'That's not a riot, it's a feast, let's eat.'


      I looked up some of Aesop Rock's lyrics because I was hoping you're right. This isn't quite word salad, but it's close.

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    17. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he has an excellent plan. Sue the service that the non-buyers value more than his music and that would surely drive them to buy his crap. Profit, no?

    18. Re:God this guy in an idiot by mjwx · · Score: 1, Troll

      As someone who can not only play music, but write it. This is dead wrong. Rap, much the same as electronic has a broken tempo, there is no flow, timing is all over the place. Add to this the grating tones they use and none of it is harmonious or melodic (I.E the notes dont naturally flow into each other, it's like playing an A minor, D major and then and F5 in the same bar, they just dont work together because their radically different chord families). At best rap can be compared to poetry (which is why you concentrated on lyrics, not musical composition) and even then, it's pretty bad poetry.

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    19. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You subjective view about music is entirely irrelevant.
      "Hey, x can't be y because I define y however I please and then slander y for not being x"

      Objective view of music being:
      Music
      First line: "Music is an art form and cultural activity whose medium is sound and silence"

      Now, for rap to NOT be music it has to:
      1) Not use sound and silence as a medium. (Protip: They do)
      2) Not have their own culture around it. (Protip: They do)

      Hence, objectively speaking, rap is indeed music.

      You could just as easily say that a stone isn't a stone because YOU define a stone as being soft. You are not entitled to define music. Feels a little bit like delusions of grandeur, assuming you can define something like this as you please.

      Couldn't you just say you don't typically enjoy this genre of music. That would've been enough information for the matter at hand and you would've showed a little less of the "my-tiny-mind-is-the-one-and-only-tiny-mind" mentality.

      tl;dr
      Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact that rap is indeed music.

      PS: Rap is typically crap, some exceptions have arisen. Kanye West is a moron who actually (like, really) seems to have aforementioned delusions of grandeur, assuming he can actually do something against TBP.

    20. Re:God this guy in an idiot by jcr · · Score: 0, Troll

      Music? When did he start doing music? I though he was a rapper.

      -jcr

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    21. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jurassic 5 exists though you fucking ass clown

    22. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnnnnnnny... you should make the same comment 2 more times

    23. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Megol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now this is the stupidest comment I've read in a long time. No, electronic music or rap isn't "broken" - it may not fit your prejudiced idea of flow and tonal composition but that doesn't make it bad or wrong.

    24. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Megol · · Score: 1

      How about you don't copy and paste your crap?

    25. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now this is the stupidest comment I've read in a long time. No, electronic music or rap isn't "broken" - it may not fit your prejudiced idea of flow and tonal composition but that doesn't make it bad or wrong.

      Modern Art

    26. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      This is what most people think of as "freestyle,"

      Well, if you asked about freestyle, without specifying freestyle rap, I'd think of freestyle music, aka Latin freestyle.

    27. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already? They've just released the 4th movie!

    28. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You lumping techno and house in there as not musical destroys your argument. It's usually very standard beats (4/4) with intuitively understandable (usually catchy) melodies combined with arpeggios/patterns created by every (digital) instrument you can think of...aka music.

    29. Re: God this guy in an idiot by xaxa · · Score: 0

      Tough, rap is music. This is the same as people arguing over what is art.

      "Electronic" is a type of instrument, not a type of music.

      Here's a song from my favourite band: https://youtu.be/YwlsziopzmQ

      Ok, bands.

      https://youtu.be/0j9pt7egWJM

      https://youtu.be/N6GnolqLgkk

      https://youtu.be/4EChJG4YzEE (catchy band name, right?)

      https://youtu.be/IrW-hC_3xSE

      I accept half of this is dance music, but only if death metal counts as rock.

    30. Re:God this guy in an idiot by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      But does he like fish sticks?

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    31. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd call that word puke.

    32. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > (if there has ever been lyrical writing on this level, I would like to know about it regardless of genre)

      Check out Cradle of Filth and (particularly) early Theatre of Tragedy. I guess it's to some degree a matter of opinion regarding what makes lyrical writing "high level", but in my view lyrics written in the style of 18th century poetry is much "higher level" than what I found when I searced for "Aesop Rock lyrics".

    33. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And his music is terrible.

      And he named his daughter "North".

      Yes.

      Yes he did.

      Alicia Keys said that's like her naming her kid "Car".

    34. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've just started to get into listening to rap while weightlifting--I mostly listen to indie rock, and The National just doesn't get me pumped for a heavy set of squats. Thanks for this list. I've been struggling to fill out my playlists, and this should help.

    35. Re:God this guy in an idiot by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong. I told the same thing to one of my college English professors about some of poets we were studying. I think I'm still right. Communication should be simple and straightforward. Making it meaningful and beautiful at the same time is called talent.

      The type of writing you've just explained can best be called cryptic. "Deep" doesn't mean "hard to figure out".

    36. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      Your post got modded "Informative," so it must be information. Thank you for that.
      Is that all that there is to know about this Kanye West person? I'm not kidding. That name sounds very familiar, but I don't know who such a person is or why he or she is relevant.

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    37. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He looks and sounds just like a monkey, only with a dumber expression on his face. Also, he has no musical education, he can't compose and he can't play any instruments.

    38. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Looked it up and it appears to be club/rave-style breakbeats?

      Hmm... not quite, I think. It's closer to 80s pop. Check out: Information Society, Stevie B, Shannon, Lil Suzy, and Noel.

    39. Re:God this guy in an idiot by NormalVisual · · Score: 2

      but rap and electronic (techno, house and all of that crap) I cant consider music because there's nothing musical about it.

      As someone that has played and written music for the past 35 years and has actually been paid for both composing and performing, has a solid understanding of theory, and rarely comes across anything I can't sight-read, I suggest you may want to broaden your horizons. I accept and respect that you have your own opinions, but appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

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    40. Re:God this guy in an idiot by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      have you used http://songmeanings.com/ yet? Try it! #AD

    41. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So it's platitude salad.

      Seriously, go read a book and expand your knowledge, son. Oh and you might want to tell your clearly uneducated "boyee" that he's pronouncing the name Aesop wrong.

    42. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That might be because rap isn't music, it's just talking.

      Oh and as for electronic, go listen to some Infected Mushroom or BT. Those guys are more talented than most musicians, including the classical greats.

    43. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like your mom's bedroom performance.

    44. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Try flexing your brain on bands that understand what the fibonacci sequence is and compose to it's constraints.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    45. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      She is the feminine products spokesperson for Summer's Eve women's hygiene who tries to sing on the side.

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    46. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I told the same thing to one of my college English professors"

      How's your literary criticism career working out for you? It certainly was benevolent of you to offer your criticism on a widely aclaimed artist entirely for free.

    47. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope. Decoding it makes it even weaker. It's not very good. Just regurgitating popular memes, slang and so on. Rap version of buzzword bingo.

    48. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you should know, right?

    49. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Britz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This totally depends. Just because you can't understand all parts of the linux kernel source code, it isn't crap code per se.

      Yes, there is beauty in simplicity, but there can also be beauty in complex things. Complex poems with double and triple meaning that might not be obvious at first glance. Or things that you can't understand with background knowledge, simply because you don't share the same background as the author. What if someone writes a beautiful poem about solving a complex programming issue and the joy in that. Can everyone understand that? Is it wrong, because not everyone gets that?

      Though lots of people feel like you feel. That is why almost every pop song is about love. Because that is something almost everyone, or at least everyone who buys music, can relate to. Simple and easy to understand is popular. Because it is accessible. Complex and complicated things are not popular. Thus pop songs sell better than operas. Which often is complex music that needs explaining.

      Many of the "higher" arts or "fine" arts need some education or can be better enjoyed once you acquire a little background. Or to put it different: An episode of Family Guy is better enjoyed, once you get all the pop culture references. Since they use pop culture, many people get the references and thus Family Guy itself is popular.

    50. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong.

      He was only explaining it to someone who lacked either the insight, the brainpower, or the imagination to understand it himself. "If I don't get your art, then you suck" really isn't the way to go through life.

      Fortunately, we don't measure literature by the ability of the least of us to understand it. If we did, James Joyce, William Burroughs, Jorge Luis Borges, Robert Coover, Baudelaire, Thomas Pynchon and many others would be unknown.

      Explaining literature was my profession for 25 years. You explain it until the light goes on. Sometimes it never goes on, you know? For people like that, they make reality TV.

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    51. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      it's like playing an A minor, D major and then and F5 in the same bar

      Someone who's never heard of tritone substitutions.

      Add to this the grating tones they use and none of it is harmonious or melodic

      Schoenberg, Webern, Penderecki and Verese just called to say that you're a knucklehead. They were partying over at John Coltrane's house.

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    52. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1
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    53. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But still smart enough not to marry a hobbit even though Kim K lives in a smial.

    54. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong. I told the same thing to one of my college English professors about some of poets we were studying. I think I'm still right.

      You're not.

      If you're in your early 20s having a "revelation" about how the people who have spent their lives studying a thing just don't understand it at all but your tremendous experience and insight has given you the real answers, spoiler alert: you're kind of a conceited asshole, and in five or ten years you're going to be embarrassed that you ever thought that.

    55. Re:God this guy in an idiot by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm too afraid that I might get a copy that has a virus that would force my computer to put his music on endless loop.

      That and I have more important things to do with that space on my drives... like keep the free space at a high percentage.

    56. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      also since when does that matter. I dont give a fuck how good lyrics are if it sounds like fucking shite, or some fucking gobshite shouting some shit over the top of some fucking horrendous noise bullshit. So fuck rap.it DOES all suck. Its a fucking abomination to the ears, reading Shakespeare out to a rap music background still sounds like fucking shit rap. I'd rather listen to someone read their shopping list in tune to some good music than read "good lyrics" with a fucking insult to my ears musical accompaniment, thanks.

    57. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only is his "music" terrible, he is a terrible person. He is a Racist and Bigot filled with hate. He is the black Donald Trump. Sue happy just the same.

    58. Re:God this guy in an idiot by gtall · · Score: 1

      He's married to one of the Kardashian's butts.

    59. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir Skitzzzoooooooooo

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjRO3P9SG5M

    60. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is good rap. Rap that is so good that it makes the lyrics of every other genre look like the poems you wrote to your high-school infatuation.

      tick... tock... tick... tock...

      Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah... (gasping for breath) Bwhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa... ha.

    61. Re:God this guy in an idiot by stealth_finger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even with your, translation or interpretation or whatever of the lines it still doesn't make much sense. It's just a bunch of clever or witty sounding lines with barely any connection strung together. I get there's a kind of overall theme but is it actually trying to say anything more?

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    62. Re: God this guy in an idiot by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      But do gay fish lives matter?

    63. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong. I told the same thing to one of my college English professors about some of poets we were studying. I think I'm still right. Communication should be simple and straightforward. Making it meaningful and beautiful at the same time is called talent.

      The type of writing you've just explained can best be called cryptic. "Deep" doesn't mean "hard to figure out".

      Tell that to T.S. Eliot. Or Shakespeare, Dante, etc.

      As an engineer I always wished "English class" was more about grammar and sentence structure instead of all this "deeper mean" stuff.

    64. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In communication you'd be right, but art is not always straightforward. I'm sure your English professors loved having you. You can think you're right all you want, but the fact remains that there are revered poets the world over that are not easy to understand and still worth the effort to decipher.

    65. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree, and I don't understand why people feel called to defend that word salad, when there are plenty pop songs that could (in my opinion) be put up there with Shakespeare. (Take for example Simon & Garfunkel, Don McLean, Reinhard Mey, Fun, REM, ...)

    66. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rap isn't a form of music, it's a lyrical style. You're probably thinking of hip hop.

      And if you think "electronic" is limited to EDM and hip hop then you really just need to shut up and educate yourself.

    67. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You confirmed it. It is word salad.

    68. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am astounded your got modded troll. You are playing to the wrong crowd, mostly, I guess.

      I suggest you persevere and say what kind of music *you* like, and why. Even if you have to post AC. I'd be genuinely curious.

      FWIW, I like Will Smith's "Freak This" and "Wild Wild West" but not for their musical qualities, for sure.

    69. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he knows how to work autotune. That's talent right? I have no idea how this talentless uneducated illiterate dumbfuck got to were he is. There are 1000s of middle school and high school bands that have more talent, produce actual music and are better educated than this tiny little twat of a twit. Being $53 million in debt and asking someone for a hand out just goes to show he hasn't gotten very far from his roots of an uneducated person from a poor neighborhood.

    70. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Beyond+Opinion · · Score: 1

      Whoah, glitch in the Matrix! Have you posted this comment before on a similar topic? I just had a serious case of deja vu.

    71. Re:God this guy in an idiot by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      When artists use imagery it's to invoke an emotional response and the images have to be something common that anyone can understand. In the case of those poets you may not have understood it because those kind of images can be cultural or change over time.

      This almost sounds like he may be trying to draw from multiple cultural themes not all of which I am familiar.

    72. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, if it's not written for a heptatonic scale with 4/4 timing, it's not music? Northern Europe, Africa, and the Far East would like to have a word with you.

      I don't think I've seen someone so close minded with regards to music in my entire life. I came close with a friend who believed melody was an absolute requirement for music due to an old, outdated, cold definition of music that would have rejected rock 'n roll. I noted he enjoyed items from the RnB genre; I pointed out the discordance in his theory vs his practice he changed his mind.

      But let's focus on your bad definition. Explain to me how you reject the The Rite of Spring. Because you do (but wait, you don't?). The timing is all over the place, after all. And how you reject Death Metal as music. Because you do (but wait, you don't?). It typically lacks much in the way of melody. I suppose you, as a general rule, reject as music anything from the Drum Corps, after all, no melody? And, of course, classical music from India is rejected by you as a rule.

      That's an awful lot of exceptions we're up to. Let's see, things that aren't music to you: Classical. Rock. RnB. Classical Far East. Electronic.

      So, for your limited definition, the only item I can see as "music" is Jazz, but I think that's due to my limited experience with the genre. Perhaps someone else can show some popular Jazz that also lacks one of: Consistent timing, melody, or harmony.

    73. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This totally depends. Just because you can't understand all parts of the linux kernel source code, it isn't crap code per se.

      Code isn't human communication. It's machine instruction.

      Simple code is easier to maintain and should contain comments that do consist of effective human communication. And those comments are needed because code is not for human consumption.

      You make the point that complex communication is "beautiful". The point that the GP made is that overcomplicated speech isn't communication. Communication is supposed to be efficient. Art isn't necessarily efficient. It's also not communication. It's expression, but not communication.

      And that's where the breakdown lies. You're arguing that this expression of art is communication, and the GP is (correctly) pointing out that it isn't. It's still expression, and maybe it induces a feeling in some observers. It's still not effective communication. Effective communication is understood by all who speak the same language. The example is plainly written in English, which is a language I speak and generally understand. But that expression is not communication because I (and others) do not find it understandable despite the fact that we can read (or hear) the words.

      tl;dr: It's expression, but it's not communication. And comparing its cryptic nature to computer code is way off base.

    74. Re:God this guy in an idiot by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      Errr...no thanks. I appreciate the recommendations and all, but I prefer music to rap and hip hop.

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    75. Re:God this guy in an idiot by deadboy2000 · · Score: 2

      I didn't get it until I got to the end, "Blood turns to wine when I leak for police", then I went back and saw that it seems to all be about the recent police violence scandals and "Black Lives Matter" . . .

      "buttery gold, jittery zeitgeist . . . Eye for an eye" = the police's badges, as symbols of righteous authority and protection, seem to melt away quickly these days. Instead, we seem to see panicky, primitive, reactions to an over-generalized perception of threat from the community.

      "The mouths water . . . Blood turns to wine . . . that's not a riot, it's a feast . . ." = Like bloodthirsty savages, they seem to seek out and relish any opportunity to justify violence

      my $.02

    76. Re:God this guy in an idiot by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      It's not music.

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    77. Re:God this guy in an idiot by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Kanye West is $53M in debt.

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    78. Re:God this guy in an idiot by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      You couldn't pay me to listen to a Kanye West song...

    79. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why you are—let me guess—an engineer? Not an artist. A poem or a song lyric is not a technical manual. Ease of interpretation isn't the key and may not even be desirable, depending upon the artist's intentions. There is so much out there you're missing I wouldn't even know where to begin, but I feel sorry for you.

    80. Re:God this guy in an idiot by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong. I told the same thing to one of my college English professors about some of poets we were studying.

      It's called symbolism. You see in avant garde fine arts, you see it in folk art around the world, you see it in ancient poems and religious texts (think the Book of Revelations,) you see it in colorful patois and word plays. You see it mythology, you see it in Australian dream time lore.

      Welcome to the richness of human thought.

      I think I'm still right.

      You are also free to think the world is flat and Elvis is alive.

      Communication should be simple and straightforward.

      Depending on the goal of communications and the artist's desire for expression. If we were to use your criteria for measuring, Edgar Allan Poe's "The Raven" or Marquez "100 Years of Solitude" or the works of Dali and Picasso would be marked as failures.

      Making it meaningful and beautiful at the same time is called talent.

      Meaningful with respect to what? Beautiful as measured by whom? Subjective tags these are. Meaning is ascribed by the author and the audience. And beauty is a function of culture.

      You talk about these as if they were measures of the physical world (they aren't.) To me, this is not an argument of logic, but a talking point that you are fabricating to keep the argument going. The type of writing you've just explained can best be called cryptic. "Deep" doesn't mean "hard to figure out".

    81. Re:God this guy in an idiot by neoRUR · · Score: 1

      If you want to see and hear some real ture dat rap, this is where I go :) http://www.epicrapbattlesofhis...

    82. Re:God this guy in an idiot by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Yup my thinking exactly.

      Are there actually THAT many people willing to listen to his..*ahem* "music"...much less pay for it?

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    83. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has some sort of strange grip on millenials though. Go to Reddit and you'll get massively downvoted for saying anything critical of him. I think it's because he's a rapper but not the gangsta rap variety, so the young kids find him to be rebellious but still accessible. He's like a Justin Beiber for the white twenty-something hipster crowd.

    84. Re: God this guy in an idiot by dothasmurfysmurf · · Score: 1

      I doubt he really knows how to work autotune, that's what his audio engineers do. His 'talent' mainly seems to be a willingness to perform childish antics in the public spotlight, marrying another non-talented woman who's famous for being famous, and manufactured controversy (could be argued this falls under childish antics). I'm with the other posters in that I feel like downloading the album as many times as I can simply to delete it. There's a song on the album called "I Love Kanye"... Get over yourself, fool!

    85. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      music?

      As soon as he makes some, I'll see about giving it a listen.

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    86. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still not particularly "genius" level writing. The gist of the song is "don't conform, and also, fuck the man." It's the same general criticism that's been leveled against society and government for centuries - just dressed up with a thesaurus and a loop machine.

      Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad song. But genius? Not really.

    87. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (if there has ever been lyrical writing on this level, I would like to know about it regardless of genre)

      Try some of Dessa's music, for well-written, and *coherent* lyricism.

      https://youtu.be/RpNUxrYhsf0
      https://youtu.be/vv1DT94it8I

      Bonus points: she can actually sing pretty well, too.

    88. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is many things but insecure is not one of them.

    89. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And honestly all he's going to do here is transfer more of his money to a bunch of lawyers, with little hope of any recovery. So good luck there.

    90. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

      tritone substitutions ... Schoenberg, Webern, Penderecki and Verese just called to say that you're a knucklehead. They were partying over at John Coltrane's house

      Sipping cocktails with Berg, Stravinsky, Messiaen and hell, even Chopin and Tchaikovsky.

      Damn, sounds like one hell of a party.

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    91. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's garbage. Sadistic crap legitimized by florid prose.

    92. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he is. Narcissistic behavior is a coping mechanism for deeper insecurity.

    93. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He made dat bitch famous... but Ray J made dat butt famous!

    94. Re:God this guy in an idiot by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      Interesting transcription, thanks!

    95. Re:God this guy in an idiot by skoony · · Score: 0

      Aesop Rock? Do you mean phrasing much like them imitating their five year old siblings but,using a dictionary?

    96. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you have listed more white guys?

      Listen to Liquid Swords by the GZA. /thread

    97. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is, the lyric have no first/second meaning, only the hidden "deep" meaning. You wanna do this multi-layered thing right? Then do what Shakespeare did and have a no-effort accessible layer, a pondering man's layer, and a hidden, deeper layer that rewards those who are clever enough to suss it out. Not a bunch of word salad bullshit that, if you squint, makes a minimum of sense.

    98. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More as compared to what?

      "Squeeze my lemon til the juice runs down my leg"?
      "Going to the country; gonna eat me lots of peaches"?
      "La vendetta! O, la vendetta! E un piacer serbato ai saggi, Obbliar l’onte gl’oltraggi."?

    99. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you having trouble spelling "nigger"?

    100. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, there are a lot of people, who aren't prepared to pay to listen to his music.

    101. Re:God this guy in an idiot by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would use other examples. Considering Shakespeare or Dante to be the equivalent to T.S. Eliot is anachronistic.

      Shakespeare in particular wrote for the "groundlings". The only reason we find his plays to be something that requires literary analysis is that our modern society does not even speak English in the same manner as a common man at the turn of the 17th Century in England did. His plays were not only completely comprehensible to commoners, they contained many jokes considered quite vulgar at the time. The problem is that we associate Shakespeare with intellectuals because common English of the time has been forgotten by everyone but experts, and so we assume that he was word salad or full of hidden meanings to the people he was playing to. It wasn't.

      There may have been some witty double meanings, but his plays were not inaccessible to the crowds. He'd have died a pauper if they had been because he made his money on performing plays for as many people as he could pack into the Globe.

      Dante was one of the first users of the Italian language for poetry. His goals were somewhat more intellectual, because his audience was different, but he was still a lot more comprehensible to the people of his time than many people give him credit for being today. Instead of Latin, he was using the vulgar tongue, and like Shakespeare, he was speaking to people in their everyday language and talking about people who were well known to the common people at the time. He probably was no more inaccessible than well-written satire is today.

    102. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is highly insecure. Why do you think he's always trying to hijack the limelight from others?

    103. Re:God this guy in an idiot by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I tend to have the same impression that you do. I don't feel this artist speaks to a broad audience. In fact, I have heard Aesop Rock before, and I like the sound, but I haven't the foggiest idea what the fuck is being said.

      However, there are people out there who are either smarter than I, or have a shared context, or who are simply enamored with finding meanings in dense text who probably love this artist for the lyrics.

      In that sense, they're not wrong, but it can be argued that such an artist is not speaking to the common experience of a widespread population... and he doesn't have to.

      There's no less value in speaking to a niche group than there is to speaking to a larger audience.

    104. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      ... like via any objective measure the answer is probably, moreso than whoever you listen to.

      More confirmed sales than springsteen. there are't that many artists bigger than kanye.
      unless you're listening to ms swift, rihana or mariah, contemporary-wise they're not bigger than kanye.

      surprisingly he beats out gaga.

    105. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rap isn't music.

    106. Re:God this guy in an idiot by vux984 · · Score: 1

      There is good rap. Rap that is so good that it makes the lyrics of every other genre look like the poems you wrote to your high-school infatuation

      I don't disagree there is really good rap. But I don't agree that every other genre is weak by comparison. There are are truly amazing lyrics in most genres... Leonard Cohen, Pink Floyd, Skinny Puppy, Ladytron, New Order, Faith No More... all have songs that I'd consider poetic excellence.

      This guy creates new rhymes that he has never said before almost every time he opens his mouth. If you think of yourself as quick-witted, just try and do this

      There is an 'art' to playing with pronunciation and cadence that some rappers have that allow them a lot more rhyming flexibility than I'll ever have. I'm not sure I'd categorize it as quick-wit, its merely a particular aptitude plus practiced skill. Myka9 im not familiar with, but as a pretty familiar example, Eminem is very good at it.

      I'm more impressed by metaphor, meanings, and symbols than raw speed or rhyming ability, but I don't mean to suggest that there isn't a certain impressiveness to skilled freestyle rapping.

    107. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I looked up some of Aesop Rock's lyrics because I was hoping you're right. This isn't quite word salad, but it's close.

      It's shit like all rap.

    108. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rap is shit, not music.

      fixed.

    109. Re:God this guy in an idiot by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      *defamation

      Unless you mean Kanye beat up somebody involved.

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    110. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he's an attention bitch; I doubt his "art" torrents have many peers

    111. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another publicity stunt. No one cares please disappear from my news Kanye West, I don't care for your marketing campaigns or strategy.

    112. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Focusing on lyricism in music is like focusing on the color of the plate your food is served on. Real musicians don't need words, and the instrumentals in most mainstream hip hop are inherently boring because it's looped or programmed or sampled without all the nuance that live performance can have (barring the real producer-wunderkinds like Aphex Twin). I'm a gigging jazz musician with a couple decades of experience under my belt, and while I love the classics like Tribe/Wu-Tang/Eric-B/Dre for their ear-worminess, none of it is objectively interesting music if you compare it to musical virtuosity. The Roots are all great musicians, especially their guitarist, but none of them hold a candle to any great jazz&classically-trained musician.

      It's also worth noting that without exception, every great musician I've played with always ignores the lyrics and evaluates music based on, ya know, the MUSIC.

      Hip hop is art and can be catchy musically, but the fact that the whole genre is birthed from and focuses on the lyrics makes the genre inherently self-limiting music-wise. (And yes I know the mainstream radio-hits are always simplistic by design, I'm not even paying attention to that garbage. But even "underground" stuff has been tainted by exposure to all the electro-shit that mainstream hip hop has co-opted -- artfully chosen soul/funk samples have all but been replaced by the kind of basic-ass str8-outta-DAW-defaults crap that I was experimenting with years ago in FruityLoops. It's a shame, who the fuck can listen to shit like The Weeknd or Future or Chance and consider that Good Music? It's boring elevator-music with a few dial-up tones thrown in.)

    113. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Flash that buttery gold, jittery zeitgeist
      Wither by the watering hole, water patrol
      What are we, a heart huckabee, art fuckery suddenly? ...

      Ah, now I see the relevance to Slashdot. This is output from a Markov chain phrase generator, yes?

      I notice that both this transcription and the response that 'corrected' it from an official source still didn't get the third to last sentence right.

      Where the cash cows actually beef

      should be

      Where the cash cow's actually beef

      It's a contraction of "cow is".

    114. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously how young do you have to be to say that
      "Electronic" is a type of instrument, not a type of music."
      How hard is it to Google young man ?
      Have a seat with West, you deserve it.

    115. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's wildly insecure, and if you're not also insecure, it can be quite entertaining to behold. It helps to appreciate the music though.

    116. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      You're welcome. I can only assume it was the insightful reading of his character.

      As for is that all there is to know? Pretty much. He's a media attention whore who thinks he is gods gift to the world.

    117. Re:God this guy in an idiot by jcr · · Score: 1

      What are you trying to prove with a pair of links to shit?

      -jcr

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    118. Re:God this guy in an idiot by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      More confirmed sales than springsteen. there are't that many artists bigger than kanye. unless you're listening to ms swift, rihana or mariah, contemporary-wise they're not bigger than kanye.

      Ugh...most of that list of 'artists' you put down, isn't much better than kanye....

      I'd say Swift, and Gaga are up there with talent....Mariah's voice is gone, not what she had in her youth...riahana? Ugh....

      I guess music has had a dearth of true musicians and musicianship for so long...people will pay money for *anything*. I guess that's why music of today is disposible.

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    119. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if the compiler doesn't understand parts of the Linux source code, they're crap. Isn't that a better analogy? Lines of poetry are meant to communicate with the reader...sure, you can write for a reader who has basic cultural literacy, or some higher degree of familiarity with the concepts you employ...Linux source code in general is not meant to communicate to the end user, but rather the compiler....

    120. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12 years ago is when he first played with audio editing on a computer? Really every one who has ever touched that stuff has sped up vocals etc. I did that shut in the 90s. He innovated nothing. He is a complete talentless hack who got lucky and I would actually be happy if he crashes so hard he's standing at a freeway off ramp someday. He is a total lunatic

    121. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is good rap. Rap that is so good that it makes the lyrics of every other genre look like the poems you wrote to your high-school infatuation. I listen to most genres of music, but I only really flex my brain rhyming or listening to good hip-hop. The problem is that mainstream rap just turns people off the whole category, and I could see why.
      If you want to see some of the most amazing writing being done to music today, check out:
      Aesop Rock (if there has ever been lyrical writing on this level, I would like to know about it regardless of genre)
      Myka9 (can improvise lyrics on the spot. This is what most people think of as "freestyle," 99.9% of which is actually memorized beforehand. This guy creates new rhymes that he has never said before almost every time he opens his mouth. If you think of yourself as quick-witted, just try and do this and you will realize how slow and bland your own brain is. Not you personally, but hypothetically...)
      El-P
      Sole
      Sage Francis
      Atmosphere (slug is the lyricist)

      rap is not even music all they do is say the something over and over again hell some rap song dont even make words they just spew sounds. rapers have become lazy and untalented

    122. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 2

      If you still disagree, I would be interested to hear your opinion.

      Are you a teenager? You sound like a teenager.
      Anyone that tries to convince others how good their choice of music is, by actually explaining how deep the lyrics really are, is usually a teenager.
      It's good that you've found an artist that resonates with your beliefs, but comparing you new found passion for a particular artist to Shakespeare is little comical.

    123. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Explaining literature was my profession for 25 years. You explain it until the light goes on. Sometimes it never goes on, you know? For people like that, they make reality TV.

      Oh I see what you did there. You're right and everyone else is a moron. Art should be a personal taste, the last thing it needs is people telling others what they should like.

    124. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I.E the notes dont naturally flow into each other, it's like playing an A minor, D major and then and F5 in the same bar, they just dont work together because their radically different chord families

      Yet hip hop music does work, because lots of people listen to it and like it. Or do you seriously believe everyone else should all like whatever it is you like?

    125. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      As someone who can not only play music, but write it. This is dead wrong.

      Well you win then, because you're the only person who can both play and write music...

      I can appreciate a wide variety of music from classical, to jazz, to Latin jazz to rock and death metal, I even went to see Gilbert and Sullivan last year (and was at least 20 years younger than everyone else) but rap and electronic (techno, house and all of that crap) I cant consider music because there's nothing musical about it.

      Well then no-one else should like then either, because you can both play and write music, your opinion is the only one that counts.

    126. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      . Art should be a personal taste, the last thing it needs is people telling others what they should like.

      I don't care if anyone likes or dislikes certain literature or art. I only care that they have sufficient understanding to decide for themselves.

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    127. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure your MLP soundtrack album is way better.

    128. Re: God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I downloaded it. Re-uploaded it, and got commisions based on all downloads from my link. Thanks Kanye

    129. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And his music is terrible.

      Faulty premise. Rap is not music.

    130. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      How about appreciation for lyrics that actually require interpretation? Well go find someone who shares your interest and discuss with them. You replied to someone has already said they don't share your tastes, and you're trying to convince them they are wrong.

      You sound like a shallow, bland shit that would be incapable of having an originally artistic opinion on anything...

      Yeah, yeah whatever... and I suck too right? Man I miss high school....

    131. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is true facts!!! well said

    132. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      disposable* :) kanye has more sales than gaga.

      that's what you get for trying to talk about the intrinsic value of a highly subjective medium. can you dance to american pie? does it matter if you can't? is complexity the key? then nothing really holds a candle to classical music.

      the problem with being elitist in that fashion is that there's always going to be a litmus test you yourself fail.

      fuck swift and gaga, gimme some good old tatum any day :).

      but not really. too complex for my ear.

    133. Re:God this guy in an idiot by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Myka9 (can improvise lyrics on the spot. This is what most people think of as "freestyle," 99.9% of which is actually memorized beforehand. This guy creates new rhymes that he has never said before almost every time he opens his mouth. If you think of yourself as quick-witted, just try and do this and you will realize how slow and bland your own brain is. Not you personally, but hypothetically...)

      This used to be a game called The Dozens (google it) and I played it quite well as a child of 10 or 11 (don't quite recall). The only difference being that it was not merely rhyming but insulting as well. What I find weird is that so few people have heard of this game. I guess being white trash has some advantages... meh

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    134. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rap and hip-hop completely ruined MTV. Along with reality TV shows and game shows.

      By 1988 it was completely unwatchable unless you were a 14-year-old suburban gangsta wannabe.

  2. Children behave by BitZtream · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we please stop giving the retarded toddler throwing temper tantrums attention?

    He'll keep this shit up until it stops, so fuck stop talking about this ignorant no talent asshat and move along. Treat him like the child he is?

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    1. Re:Children behave by scrib · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's what they say when we share torrents
      And you should have paid
      They don't understand
      And so we download just as much as we can
      Getting songs sung by our favorite band
      Trying to not to pay for copyrights
      And then you type into the search box and we look for the new sounds
      And then you say "I think I'm a pirate, here's a tune that was released early today."
      "I think I'm a pirate, I hope I don't get caught by the RIAA."

      With apologies to Tommy James and The Shondells, Tiffany, Girls Aloud, and all of you...

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    2. Re:Children behave by sconeu · · Score: 1

      And... "The Internet responded by pirating his album in droves."

      My only question is, "Why would ANYONE want his album?"

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    3. Re:Children behave by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      And... "The Internet responded by pirating his album in droves."

      My only question is, "Why would ANYONE want his album?"

      Because these days "The Internet" seems to mean the small subset of idiots who follow the Kim and Kanye roadshow.
      I believe it's most likely due to the fact that the media don't understand what "The Internet" is, and so only go by what they read on Twitter (also populated by idiots).

  3. Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    A) Kanye sucks and good luck to his BS. Piratebay won't give a crap what his loopy ass has to say.

    B) Fuck you Slahdot. How many ads do you have to cram in your mobile site. Totally ridiculous.

    1. Re:Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      B) Idiot! Firefox + uBlock.
      And duck, here comes the APK guy!

    2. Re: Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is on mobile, did you miss that one little buddy? Derp

    3. Re: Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mobile Firefox supports desktop add-ons.

    4. Re: Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UC Browser, Tor Browser, Firefox and Chrome plugins. News for nerds, indeed.

    5. Re: Off topic rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mobile user here. Firefox + ublock works great.

  4. What's his beef with Apple? by SeaFox · · Score: 3

    ...West announced that his new album, The Life of Pablo, would be sold exclusively as a download from his website and the artist-driven streaming music service Tidal. The news sent Tidal to No. 1 on the U.S. Apple App Store, so West pulled the album from his site...

    Is something worded incorrectly here? This is written like he pulled his album because Tidal was suddenly really popular on the Apple App Store. But then it says he pulled his album from his site. Wouldn't that only leave it available on Tidal?

    1. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by old+and+new+again · · Score: 1

      he owns it

    2. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      he owns it

      That makes even less sense. He's an owner in Tidal so his response to a sudden interest in his service (most likely people wanting to get his album) is to pull the album from the site? Now who's the cause of "loss of income"?

      I would wonder if he is just dead-set on people buying physical copies -- except the summary implies it's not available that way.

    3. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      He was selling it on his personal website, and on tidal. He has not removed it from from tidal.

    4. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      No he kept it on Tidal and removed it from his personal website.

    5. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay, I see.
      So he created a situation where one cannot own the album outright -- only stream it. Forcing the consumer into paying in perpetuity for a service he is part owner in.

    6. Re: What's his beef with Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now your getting it :)

  5. Who would represent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... a gay fish

  6. By 50 Percent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " By 50 Percent, Stanley Kubrick, Apostle Paulâ¦Picasso⦠fucking Picasso and Escobar. By 50 percent more influential than any other human being."

    What a tard, get off the pipe Kanye and quite trying to nig money for all your failures.

  7. Oh yeah? I'm considering suing him by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    For inflicting not just his terrible "music" on us, but giving the media a reason to keep the Kardashians in the spotlight!

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  8. Yawn. by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tell us if he actually does sue. Otherwise, do we really care what he is considering? He might be considering a run for President, He might be considering competing in NASCAR, he might be considering any number of things, but until he actually does one of them, it's even more uninteresting.

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    1. Re:Yawn. by slashping · · Score: 4, Funny

      Speak for yourself. I would like to know when he's considering to make music.

    2. Re:Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for yourself. I would like to know when he's considering to make more noise.

      Ftfy

    3. Re:Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good job not getting the joke at all and trying to "fix" it with a completely non-functional dim wit.

    4. Re:Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I can put my earplugs in...

    5. Re:Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kanye doesn't make music, he inflicts "music" upon his enemies.

      And don't think this is going to devolve into the "rap isn't music" trope that took up 2/3rds of this thread already. No, this is a "Kanye sucks" post, through-and-through.

      I was going to mostly ignore Kanye's new lame-ass release. He's an attention whore, an egomaniac, and an all-around terrible person. He makes incoherent and annoying "music" that defies conventions at the expense of any semblance of good taste. And he's bad at managing money, as evidenced by the fact that he's in terrible debt, despite making metric shit-tons of money in the past. So now, it is my unfortunate duty to download his music from TPB just to fuck him over. ...Nah... I can't do it. I don't want that stupid thing soiling my hard drive.

  9. The Internet responded by pirating his album by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    [Citation Needed]

    1. Re:The Internet responded by pirating his album by drkamil · · Score: 1
  10. I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does he like fish sticks?

  11. And you're surprised? by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

    Gosh, I know what I'll do.. I'll make my crap available only through one service so it's obnoxiously inaccessible. Not that I've even heard of this guy before, but how is anyone this fricking stupid? What did you expect to happen? Celebration? People have been complaining about content accessibility issues for years and you propagate the problem?

    But just as TFA says, Good Luck With That!

    1. Re:And you're surprised? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      How have you never heard of this guy? I could never pick one of his songs out of a medley but this guy is such an attention whore train wreck that even I, stuck in my basement, have heard of him. This was the guy who rushed on stage at an awards ceremony (VMA) to abuse the judges for picking Taylor Swift over Beyonce when he has absolutely nothing to do with Beyonce. And he married that Kardashian woman.

      I'm kinda proud of you that you don't know who he is. Proud and really really jealous.

    2. Re:And you're surprised? by Xest · · Score: 1

      Consider that basically all those things are American. If you're not American where your media is infatuated with this Kardashian crap whatever the flying fuck a Kardashian actually is or where your awards ceremonies are meaningless because we have our own artists and our own awards ceremonies then you've really no idea to know much about this guy. Consider that those of us outside the US really don't give an utter toss about what award has been handed to some artist that we've never heard of or who they've married.

      I've heard of him from seeing his name on a few news articles but I couldn't tell you why he's famous, why he's apparently the centre of attention in the US or why anyone should care. I suspect outside of America it's pretty trivial to have not heard of this guy - again, it's only because I almost religiously read every news headline on a daily basis ever that I have heard of him even. I've no idea what songs he's done or anything else he's ever done or anything like that.

    3. Re:And you're surprised? by tsotha · · Score: 1

      If you're not American where your media is infatuated with this Kardashian crap whatever the flying fuck a Kardashian actually is...

      Clearly you know who the Kardashians are.

    4. Re:And you're surprised? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "And he married that Kardashian woman."

      That alone tells us tons about this moron. We install Kardashian blockers on all our devices and this idiot marries one.

    5. Re:And you're surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a misspelling of typical startrek villains?

    6. Re:And you're surprised? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      Put it on the Internet, then took it down. They pirated my album... SO I PULL OUT MY GUN!

    7. Re:And you're surprised? by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      "And he married that Kardashian woman."

      You misspelled "Cheap-Trashy-whore-ian"

    8. Re:And you're surprised? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I don't listen to, buy, and wouldn't take the time to pirate his music I only hear about him when he is making a fool of himself and it hits the news. Which makes me think he must be trying to increase visibility since I also heard about him in the news yesterday for ranting backstage at SNL about how he is more influential and Taylor Swift is fake. He must be releasing an album or something soon?

    9. Re:And you're surprised? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Even more sad then.... I don't live in America :(

    10. Re:And you're surprised? by hawk · · Score: 1

      I believe that the preferred spelling is "Kardashabimbo" . . .

      hawk

  12. Wait wait by kuzb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yo Kanye, I’m really happy for you, Imma let you finish but TPB has one of the best torrent sites of all time!

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    1. Re:Wait wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OF ALL TIME!

    2. Re:Wait wait by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there... and it was excellent.

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    3. Re:Wait wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, buddy you win the Internet for today!

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  14. great! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i don't care for mr west. however, it's laughable to see a grown man act like this. he begs a billionaire for money because he's in a mountain of debt and instead of maximizing amount of money he could make, he instead chooses to restrict the release of his music to an obscure platform. the fans that are unhappy with these restrictions might have been willing to buy his music but now he's blown that chance and he's going after a website administrator who he blames for the choices of his fans which was an indirect result of his own choice to restrict the release. he brought these troubles upon himself and i have no sympathy for this emotionally stunted man-child who is about the waste the money he has made going after money he can no longer make.

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    1. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down. His debt is managed, and his net worth is over 50X his claimed debt. Mr. Kardashian is extremely wealthy.

      By limited his album to his own platform, he's hoping to gain subscribers and get lots and lots of coverage for the service no one is interested in. It's an elementary business move by someone that believes they can leverage market share from their own portfolio. Are you really that gullible to not see this?

    2. Re:great! by twokay · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure he is worth "over 50x his claimed debt" in the same way Twitter is "worth" 17 billion but operating at a loss. His worth is dependent on him being the centre of attention.

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    3. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an elementary business move by someone that believes they can leverage market share from their own portfolio. Are you really that gullible to not see this?

      His supply curve is infinite and he only basically has to cover cost. He thought the demand curve looked one way. When it looks another way. He did not consider people will work around him. He assumed everyone plays fair.

      Mr. Kardashians taste is a very particular taste to his fans. Instead of making sure his product is offered by as many retail outfits as possible he constricted supply foolishly thinking he can raise the price. He has a monopoly on Kanye West music. However the demand curve is still sloped as he is working with a fairly fungible medium. Meaning I could pick a different bit of music an still be satisfied. That means the supply curve for music for me is sloped not vertical (which is the mistake he is making). The value of music is not much in the sea of millions of other songs. He placed the value of his song too high and people just did what they normally do. Copied it instead. Also the supply curve in this instance will *only* be vertical for people must have his music. For everyone else it is very sloped as we can substitute something else and get just as much utility out of it.

      He also did not take into consideration his competition. That competition includes his own music offered for free. Using a very niche product to try to leverage more people into a locked in platform. When they already have at least 5 other locked in platforms to chose from. He likes to think he is Apple or Disney but he more like one product in a Kraft portfolio. He does not realize that. It is like trying to use gala apples to corner the market in supermarkets.

      Everyone can see what he is doing. We are not gullible. We just thought it was a risky business move that will not gain much other than derision.

      I am thinking more along the lines of this http://e.lvme.me/fzrtozl.jpg

      And to cut to the chase. He will do 'ok' with it. But not the 'pay off the 53 million' OK with it.

      Elementary business move indeed!

    4. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >he instead chooses to restrict the release of his music to an obscure platform.

      I'd assume his own service gives him a bit better profits than apple or google. And he probably expected people to flock to his platform because of his album.

    5. Re:great! by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      How much you're "worth" is dependent on someone actually being willing and able to pay you that amount.

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  15. A fix.. by fred911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    141A86FD1105A0951EB12A322C088883B5761475

    Now, in case The Pirate Bay cowers (doubtful), there's the file hash for the swarm. So if TPB is culpable for providing file hash data , who else is? /. Me?

    Guess when you're 56 million in the trick bag, publish a shitty no talent album, where the only business that makes money for you is dependant upon people paying $200 for tennis shoes, you point fingers on anyone you can.

      My guess... filing for protection or rehab.

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    1. Re:A fix.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't really a fix.
      You're all still completely ass up to any order of any judge, including your silly 'no logs' vpn's, they'll cave in a heartbeat.

      You need to be using I2P, Tor, Phantom as your secure anonymous bittorrenting overlay network.
      I'm downloading and sharing a FULL RAW LOSSLESS VOB DVD-9 RIP and a few LOSSLESS FLAC's RIPS a day, no problems.
      That's more than enough for any weekly watching / listening and sharing habit.

      And NO judge or MAFIAA anywhere can do anything about it.
      Gotta love me some secure anonymous bittorrenting overlay network ;-)

    2. Re:A fix.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're culpable for uploading (torrenting) unencrypted non-anonymous copyrighted data over the MOTHERFUCKING *CLEARNET*.... YOU IDIOT.
      If you'd just use a nice anonymous network where all your traffic is contained ENTIRELY within its secure layer, you wouldn't have anything to worry about whatsoever and can share 24x7x365 with complete impunity and FUCK ALL the copyright cartel like I do.
      (Well, you would have to worry about how much disk and bandwidth you want to buy, because being anon and untouchable tends to use it up fast ;-)

    3. Re:A fix.. by mrvan · · Score: 1

      Or you just live in a civilized country with good laws but bad English grammar teaching, and you can "FUCK ALL the copyright cartel" as much as you like!

    4. Re:A fix.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just use eMule

    5. Re: A fix.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US, the copyright lawsuits are greatly diminished. Downloaders are in less legal jeopardy, but with the trade-off of receiving the "internet death penalty" from their ISPs.

    6. Re: A fix.. by cunina · · Score: 1

      In the US, the copyright lawsuits are greatly diminished. Downloaders are in less legal jeopardy, but with the trade-off of receiving the "internet death penalty" from their ISPs.

  16. Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let's clarify what happened. Kanye made his album available on his website and Tidal (where he is a part owner). Tidal has no free ad-supported plans. It's expensive compared to other services. When Tidal surged in popularity on Apple's app store, Kanye pulled his album from his own website. Now it's only available from Tidal.

    I'm tired of some albums only being available through different services. Instead of subscribing to one service or buying from one store (like iTunes), this pushes consumers to subscribe to multiple services. It's a pain in the ass. And it's because of greed.

    According to Billboard Magazine, some users who purchased the album on Kanye's site were charged multiple times while others never received a copy of the album. Now Kanye says it won't be for sale again, only available for streaming. That means instead of buying a copy of an album and being able to listen to it whenever I want without paying again, Kanye wants people to pay each month for the ability to listen to his album. It's fucking greedy.

    Because Kanye is a part owner of Tidal, he has two revenue sources. One is royalties from his album being streamed. The other is profits from the service because he has equity in Tidal. That means he collects royalties from his own work but collects profits from subscriptions to listen both to Kanye's music but that of other artists as well. If you're wealthy and powerful enough to be a part owner of Tidal, you get to profit from your own work plus that of other artists. That's as opposed to artists who aren't as wealthy and powerful, who will get paid at a lower rate because they only get royalties.

    I always thought Taylor Swift came across as a bit whiny about Spotify. But at least she said she wanted higher royalties for everyone and expressed concern about artists who weren't wealthy like her. Kanye isn't concerned about other artists. Kanye is concerned about Kanye. He's greedy as hell.

    I listen to a lot of new and indie artists who put their videos on YouTube. If I like their music, I'll happy buy it on iTunes. I understand that labels and the RIAA help to finance new artists so I'm not really opposed to them getting a cut. I'd certainly be willing to donate to support new artists if their music is good. But I hate the idea that, if I'm subscribing to a service to listen to some artists, that I have to give greedy bastards like Kanye a cut.

    It's time for the market to say "fuck you" to Kanye and "fuck you" to Tidal. Don't subscribe. Support artists who aren't greedy bastards. Support artists who make far better music than Kanye. If people were smart, they would not subscribe to Tidal, stop listening to Kanye, and support artists who aren't greedy. The market could put Tidal out of business, but people are too fucking stupid.

    Fuck Kanye. Fuck Tidal. Fuck their greed. That's all.

    1. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      He claims to be over $50m in the red, not sure if that include's his wife's income from porn*. In any case, he doesn't seem to have much financial acumen, so it's no wonder he has no clue how to sell his work.

      Tidal is a ridiculous rip-off. The UK version even more so, being 30% more expensive than the US. More over, there will only ever be room for two or three streaming services in the market, because most people will only ever subscribe to one and it better have everything they want. Not even offering a version for sale, and then charging 2x as much as a physical copy for a month's access to a FLAC stream is beyond dumb, it's actually insulting. Rent seeking at its worst.

      * She is a porn actress, right? I mean, mostly soft porn, but that's what she's famous for as far as I can tell. Or does she have some other talent I'm not aware of? Genuine question, I don't keep up with celebrity news.

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    2. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 2

      I listen to a lot of new and indie artists who put their videos on YouTube. If I like their music, I'll happy buy it on iTunes.

      So if I don't have an iThing, how do I buy their music? iTunes is not available for Linux or Android. Only choice it seems is to rip the YouTube stream and listen to that.

    3. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Spudboy2003 · · Score: 1

      " If people were smart," Yeah like that is going to happen.

    4. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      iTunes and Amazon are PITA to use here on Brasil (I think it's true too in most of the non-US/EU world...)

    5. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      She is a porn actress, right? I mean, mostly soft porn, but that's what she's famous for as far as I can tell. Or does she have some other talent I'm not aware of? Genuine question, I don't keep up with celebrity news.

      I think it is because she is a master of tautology.

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    6. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google has a music store, part of Google Play, that will at least work with Android.

      Amazon sells a lot of mp3s as well.

      While some may well be iTunes only most should be available on multiple services.

    7. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the porn actress wife... who is he married to? I suppose I could just google it. Whatever...

      AFAIK Tidal is the only streaming service offering lossless quality streaming. For that I know a lot of audiophile types prefer Tidal over any other streaming service. I didn't know about the Kayne connection but otherwise have considered it. But then my taste is a little more obscure and I don't care about mainstream music libraries for the most part. Other services like Pandora would constantly push me towards more mainstream offerings instead of what I actually wanted to hear. In the end I prefer to get lossless and maintain my own library because nobody else seems to do it right IMO.

      In the end it might be a deal for me versus what I spend buying music to only spend $20/month or whatever, but I'm always nervous that some company or rights owner changes their minds or a contract expires and suddenly my access is revoked. If I own it and have a copy in hand I'm golden unless something takes out my online collection and backups in one fell swoop and then I'm probably worried about bigger things than my music collection or dead at that point...

    8. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      I can't stop listening to Kanye!

      Because I never started listening in the first place.

      That guy sucks.

    9. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      It's time for the market to say "fuck you" to Kanye and "fuck you" to Tidal. Don't subscribe.

      It's unlikely that anyone on Slashdot is a Tidal subscriber, so this message might be preaching to the converted.

    10. Re:Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Because most people will only ever subscribe to one and it better have everything they want.

      When I signed up for Spotify, they didn't have a few artist I liked, but my love for convenience beats my love of them, so I found other artists to listen to.
      Hopefully this will be the beginning of a death spiral for Kanye.

  17. Not gonna diss his music by camg188 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I don't like Mr. West's attitude and I couldn't name one of his songs but I not going to comment on how good or bad his music is. That's a matter of taste. It makes as much sense as ranting about different flavors of ice cream.
    Guess what? Different people like different kinds of music and may be different from what you like. Get over it.

    1. Re:Not gonna diss his music by slashping · · Score: 1

      I couldn't name one of his songs

      They are pretty much all called "Kanye is the best", and variations thereof.

    2. Re:Not gonna diss his music by aXis100 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but I think we can all agree that "Gold Dusted Dog Turd" is universally a bad flavor of ice cream.

    3. Re:Not gonna diss his music by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      I noticed one of his new songs on this album is named "I love Kanye" (I'm not making that up).

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    4. Re:Not gonna diss his music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You insensitive clod...

    5. Re:Not gonna diss his music by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      I noticed that also, I was looking at the album's article on Wikipedia and looking at all of the names in the track list for the writers and producers of each track. Some tracks have 15 writers or 9 producers (that has to make royalties fun to sort out), but there was only a single track on the album with 1 writer and 1 producer: "I Love Kanye", written by Kanye West and produced by Kanye West. Sure, it's only 44 seconds long, but there's another track called "Siiiiiiiiilver Surffffeeeeer Intermission" which is 56 seconds and that one has 2 writers, neither of which are West.

      Kanye is definitely his biggest fan.

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    6. Re:Not gonna diss his music by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I don't like Mr. West's attitude and I couldn't name one of his songs but I not going to comment on how good or bad his music is.

      I'm not a fan, but Gold Digger was pretty popular. It got regular rotation in all the strips clubs for quite a while :)

    7. Re:Not gonna diss his music by sr180 · · Score: 1

      The musical parts of that song were courtesy of Jamie Foxx and Ray Charles.

      Ironically, referring back to the lyrics, she is now messing with a broke ....

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    8. Re:Not gonna diss his music by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      The musical parts of that song were courtesy of Jamie Foxx and Ray Charles.

      Ok I'm going to argue this, just because I hear it so many times and it's wrong.
      A sample might contribute to the song, but there is still many other original elements still there that qualify as "musical parts". A beat is music, timing is music, arrangement is music, production is music, and even if you don't like it, rapping is still music too.
      You know there was a time not long along when some people tried to claim that The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath etc weren't music either (my old music teacher being one of them).
      Don't be that guy...

  18. He should be suing for $53 million by justcauseisjustthat · · Score: 1

    If he won , he could stop begging. Mind you, I wouldn't turn down $53 million. Is that begging :-)

    1. Re:He should be suing for $53 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how much would go to the lawyers

  19. Kanye suing The Pirate Bay? by heretic108 · · Score: 1

    Ok - let me know how he gets on with that.

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  20. That's why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    >The Internet responded by pirating his album in droves.

    Do you want the Trans-Pacific Partnership? Because that's how you get the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    1. Re:That's why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shirley you mean Trans-Pacific Pirateship, we're not all from US, you know.

    2. Re:That's why. by Holi · · Score: 1

      We are going to get the TPP, but not until after the election. If you think Kanye's album is going to effect it one way or another you're quite naive.

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    3. Re:That's why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * affect

    4. Re:That's why. by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      I need TPP

      for my bunghole

    5. Re:That's why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually in this case the argument was that it was effecting it.

  21. I will download his album now ! by randalware · · Score: 2

    and immediately delete it !

    Metalica & Kanye West both deserve this treatment !

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    1. Re:I will download his album now ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... so you'll download something, risking potential life crippling lawsuits and potentially giving them another screaming point about piracy rather than simply ignoring the fuck out ofthem, which prevents you potential legal headaches, gives them no provable harm to bitch about, and most importantly still gives them absolutely no revenue.

      To each their own I guess. I'm just going to continue to ignore this ass clown and do something else with my time.

    2. Re:I will download his album now ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. The best thing to do, is when someone says "Kanye West" is to simply say "Who?"
      I'm proud to say I've never listened to a thing he did, and have no interest or intent in listening to his work.
      He's just not worth my bandwidth. They'd literally have to pay me to download his crap (and the listening fee I would impose would make him go broke very quickly).

      If you download it, you might be tempted to listen to it, he might sue you, and he gets free hits & publicity that translate to more money for him. Don't give him the pleasure.

    3. Re:I will download his album now ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is an artist in Poland, who claimed that every album download is his loss.
      Bit later, someone created site that claims it automatically creates copies of his album and deletes them, counting singer's virtual loss.
      Counter at http://stratakazika.pl/ shows some 609M PLN (~$155M) in "stolen" this "criminal activity".

  22. Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by Sir+Holo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mr. West is being the proverbial "Troll Charging for a Bridge-crossing."

    The result is predictable. Macroeconomic forces are what they are. People will build another bridge, or simply find a way around the troll.

    All those pirates pirating sheet music for the 2nd oboe part of W. A. Mozart's Op. 233 are doing so because the author has been dead forever. But somehow, some music publisher has tied it up in Copyright, and refuses to print more copies. What else is a person to do?

    1. Re:Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Informative

      The copyright is not on the music but on a lot of the notational annotations that go along with it. Those are the creation of the publisher and so still under copyright. What would be legal is to transcribe everythig excluding the publisher's work to a fresh file, then that can be distributed freely. I'm no musician, but I've heard that good annotations are very useful and hard to create, so it appears there is some legitimate value in them.

      So, there you go. That's what you can do legally.

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    2. Re:Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by mrvan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

      That said, there would be value in a additional legislation to force copyright holders to "use it or lose it". If copyright is used to deliberately keep something from publication (e.g. Mein Kampf in Germany) or if a publisher owns the copyright, but doesn't see the business case in using it, I think that the law should either

      (1) revert the work to public domain after some time, and/or
      (2) allow for making copies as "fair use", or
      (3) apply some sort of RAND licensing on the work, so anyone can decide to publish (derivatives of) the work if they pay a reasonable fee, probably some percentage of last known retail value.

      (this should only apply to works that have been made public before, e.g. acquirable by the general public. As an author you should still have the right to keep something private)

      There is an analogy in the Dutch housing market history: until recently it was quasi-legal to squat a house if it had been empty for 1 year. So, a house owner has the exclusive right to use his or her house (by living in it or renting it out to whom s/he pleases), but if s/he just lets the building stand empty, the public used to gain a general right to take occupancy. The owner would then have to go to court and show that there are immediate plans to re-use the building, on which the court could decide to evict the squatters. As noted in the wiki:"Dutch squatting has its origins in the 1960s when the Netherlands was suffering a housing shortage while many properties stood empty" - empty houses were mainly bought for speculation, and rent was not considered enough to cover cost of maintenance and operation (a market failure). In a sense, although the house was private property, the total residential space in the city was seen as a public good. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting#Netherlands and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... )

    3. Re:Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "W. A. Mozart's Op. 233 "doesn't have a second oboe part... but it's an interesting composition nonetheless! Highly suitable for this subject, but possibly
      NSFW (KV 233)

      P.S. Stickers for detail will point out that "KV" is not "Op." but that has to give way to the opportunity for some proper classical-era smut!

  23. "Piracy is almost always a service problem" by jthill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gee, so the heavy pirating didn't start until he started smearing shit on the deal, hmmm, hmm hmm hmmmm.

    Seems people's sense of fairness doesn't always match the laws, and if CEOs and copyright self-entitlers can get away with it, maybe there's a bit too much glass around for anybody to start complaining. There's nothing in that aphorism about who built the house.

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    1. Re:"Piracy is almost always a service problem" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Poor guy, with an estimated net worth of $145 million. And he wants us to believe he is in debt.

  24. In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other words:

    "I refuse to take your money"

    "Now I'm going to sue you for all the money I lost"

  25. The invisible hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... so West pulled the album ...

    So Mr West didn't want to sell his album (licenses) and thousands of people didn't want to buy: Capitalism and the invisible hand works. What; you mean he wanted to bully thousands of people and get their money? Mr West is just doing to artists what the production/distribution companies like Sony do. But Mr West is doing it to his own kind.

  26. If it were not for his regular antics... by sciengin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If it were not for his regular antics I doubt me or many others would know who Kayne "The Dunning Kruger Effect that walks" West is.

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  29. Suing your customers, the best business model. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all.

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  31. quit calling it an "album" .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you're not going to sell a fucking LP.. or a compact disc format, at the very least... online-only "albums" are just a collection of shit tracks not worth the time and expense of actually manufacturing a product people would buy in a store.

  32. I remember when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember when back in the day a black dude wanted attention he would just turn white and invite little kids to his house, now they get beligerant and sue those technology people, you know, the people with the glasses and stuff

    its like he likes fishsticks or something

  33. Please stop by Monoman · · Score: 2

    Please stop giving this guy an audience. The media should stalk covering him and the world will probably be a better place for it. I'm not sure which is worse, his performance on stage or off.

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    1. Re:Please stop by Monoman · · Score: 1

      s/stalk/stop ... doh!

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  34. News for Nerds by malditaenvidia · · Score: 1

    Just slap "the pirate bay" or "internet of things" at the end of your average TMZ article.

  35. This guy is a moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and he think he's the center of the universe.

  36. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by jafiwam · · Score: 1

    And his music is terrible.

    First Post Nails It

    Close it down. Let's go to breakfast. Denny's anybody?

  37. 53 million dollars by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    I may be poor, but at least I have more money than Kanye West.

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  38. TPB x KAT by fbobraga · · Score: 1

    up to now, I've thinked [sic] TPB is a unusable service... there's some place to get DRM-free MP3 over this two sites? * I've used to buy music on 7digital.co.uk, but now it restricts the sales by country, which is a big problem for buyers here on Brasil (there's their's "Brazilian local site", but it has almost no stuff I've used to buy... Amazon does the same thing...)

  39. Kanye should stop masturbating to the mirror by koan · · Score: 1

    What a hapless turd, never seen anyone make it so far then trash it so well.

    The clocks ticking till the divorce "yeezus"

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  40. And where does he intend to sue P.B.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In USA, where P. B. does NOT reside? Or in Sweden, where he will receive long blonde middle finger? Who wants too much, gets noting...!

  41. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Denny's anybody?

    I could do with a grand slam breakfast.

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  42. Walls and Bridges by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Kanye is just pissed that he wasn't the one to come up with the idea to start a Twitter beef with Pope Francis.

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  43. Meh by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hate it, but he's stretching the language and speaking to his audience... who are insiders who understand the references.

    Much of what we talk about casually is full of references. Given we're in tech, our references are pretty obscure too. We're all asked "why can't you just explain it to me?"

    These are just a different kind of obscure.

    The way I understood the lyrics was a bit more cynical:

    "Sipping a chardonnay with my compatriots, when an officer visits us and questions us for being so unfashionable. We express some concern over such criticism, but the young officer takes this the wrong way and we're challenged to a duel. Some of my friends, though gentlemen, really do enjoy the sport of dueling. The officer however, was not practicing good etiquette, and surprised upon his would-be challenger a grievous injury. It will never be clear to me how officers can be so immune from the rules of civilized culture. After that, we had unfortunately lost our composure and things became most unsporting."

    1. Re:Meh by suutar · · Score: 1

      ... in the voice of Patrick Stewart.

    2. Re:Meh by WallyL · · Score: 1

      You guys remind me of How White People See Rap Battles LMAO.

  44. Most of this is the usual stuff by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    ...but honestly, the only thing that really has me interested in this story is: who the fuck is actually getting their music from Tidal?

    (Personally, I suspect it's a vanishingly tiny group of colossally stupid people PLUS a larger group of shills paid by the artists to 'fluff' the Tidal activity numbers.)

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  45. Show of hands, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many here really give two happy fucks about Kanye West?

  46. HMmm by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    I agree. If I saw any of Kanye West's music on Pirate Bay, I'd sue them for wasting everyone's time with that garbage...

  47. The pathetic Mr. Kim Kardashian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This semi-literate clownish guy is not even good for that any more. His so-called music is a piece of crap, and now he's proving that, besides, he's a complete moron. Well, he had proven that plenty of times before - nothing new here.

  48. I should sue the pirate bay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should sue the pirate bay for making this idiot's noise more prevalent in society.

  49. Kayne West asks Zuckerberg for $1 billion by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    This guy is hilarious.

    It Looks Like Mark Zuckerberg Has Finally Responded To Kanye West's Request For Money
    https://www.yahoo.com/music/looks-mark-zuckerberg-finally-responded-212500115.html

  50. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, your post is full of (c)rap. There's a huge amount of terrible and average music that absolutely no one cares about and won't listen to it. If the music is downloaded heavily, it's usually good. So all you haters are lying ... through your teeth.

  51. I don't think Kanye "considers" anything... by cmeans · · Score: 1

    He just fires from the lip.

  52. Birth control by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    This all could've been prevented if his mom carried condoms.

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  53. So, guys with jackhammers would be music also by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    So, guys with jackhammers would be music also -- it has plenty of sound, merciful silence, and office working women as fans.

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    1. Re:So, guys with jackhammers would be music also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's deliberately composed, then absolutely yes. You are way to blinded by adherence to the past.

    2. Re:So, guys with jackhammers would be music also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the jackhammering was done as an "art form and cultural activity", then yes, it is music. Have you heard of Stomp? I don't know that they ever used jackhammers, but banging on trashcans and stomping on the ground seems an apt comparison.

  54. Don't worry he's getting free money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some idiot fans are crowd funding free money for him. His fans are just as irresponsible as he is.

  55. Why is this on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tons of other idiots have done that.

  56. This is exactly what a gay fish would do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rap genius

  57. Listened? by divali · · Score: 0

    Has anyone here listened to his new album?

  58. I think Kanye needs to be referred... by Maritz · · Score: 1

    "We refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram."

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  59. In other news, a talentless idiot acts like one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Black culture has many things of genuine value to offer,
    such as the work of Miles Davis or too many blues musicians
    to name here.

    The crap that West produces has no cultural value, unless you want to fill up
    a landfill and call that "culture".

  60. Taylor Swift says by dothasmurfysmurf · · Score: 1

    Yo, Kanye, I'm happy for Tidal and Imma let you finish, but The Pirate Bay is the best music distribution system of all time! Kanye figure out why this guy is still famous? I sure as hell Kan't!

  61. Promoting Piracy by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

    What do Mr. West, Coldplay and Adele all have in common? Their greed driving people back to piracy. Just when you thought that they finally began to understand what their fans = customers want... but they cannot see for the big dollar signs in their eyes obscuring their vision.

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  62. 53 million reasons why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's in debt $53 million and wants more money to spend on his lavish lifestyle.

  63. Its own punishment by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

    The people who have pirated this album have probably listened to it. So quit persecuting them, they've suffered enough.

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  64. I'm a gonna stop you there by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    We all know GitHub makes Pirate Bay look like a loser.

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  65. Give the guy a break by Pop69 · · Score: 1

    Being married to a fat arsed porn star must be tough for him

  66. Not you too, Slashdot by wwalker · · Score: 1

    Can I please know less about this... hrm... best artist of all time? News for nerds, my ass. What's next, Kardashian section on Slashdot?

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  69. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moons Over My Hammy is where it's at.

  70. No GNAA post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At first I wonder why after all this time, we have an article where the GNAA could post on-topic, or as close as they could ever get to on-topic.
    Where are they?
    OTOH, I'm kinda glad they're not.

  71. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Close it down. Let's go to breakfast. Denny's anybody?

    how about Waffle House instead?

  72. They're word games by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    It's like playing a Lucusarts game before computers existed. The fun was figuring out all the references, in jokes and double entrandes . The trouble is that crap isn't for everyone and most colleges make you spend a few years doing it...

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  73. Not Music, not Piracy, not international topic. by Jicehix · · Score: 1

    Strictly U.S. shit going on here.

    I'd really like to know how many non-U.S. residents here on Slashdot actually even heard about the new Kanye West album, and actually considered listening to it. And the proportion of those who actually considered buying it. And then the proportion of those who DID.

    Should shrink the numbers down to *very few*.

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  74. He'd have to pay me to listen to his new album. by freedom_surfer · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't waste the time or bandwidth on his new album without just compensation.

  75. Regarding Salads of Words... by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    I am he as you are he as you are me
    And we are all together
    See how they run like pigs from a gun
    See how they fly
    I'm crying

    Sitting on a cornflake
    Waiting for the van to come
    Corporation T-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday
    Man you've been a naughty boy
    You let your face grow long
    I am the eggman
    They are the eggmen
    I am the walrus!
    Goo goo g' joob

    Mr. City policeman sitting
    Pretty little policemen in a row
    See how they fly like Lucy in the sky
    See how they run
    I'm crying
    I'm crying, I'm crying, I'm crying

    Yellow matter custard
    Dripping from a dead dog's eye
    Crabalocker fishwife
    Pornographic priestess
    Boy, you've been a naughty girl
    You let your knickers down
    I am the eggman
    They are the eggmen
    I am the walrus!
    Goo goo g' joob ...

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  76. I'm so disappointed.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm really bummed. I was hoping after Kanye released "The Life of Pablo" he'd finally reveal what "TLOP" means.

  77. Re:God this guy in an idiot FPNI by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

    Bahahahaha. And MC Hammer pants really really really look good. That's why people wore them, not because they were having 5 minutes of fame. Nope definitely because they looked good.

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  82. Gasping for air in a financial sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's never cared before, at least I haven't heard anything. What a coincidence that he's 53 million in debt--and announces it out of nowhere--and now he wants to sue TPB.

    Roughly around the same time he wants Zuckerberg to just give him $1B as if it were a small favor.

    What kind of financial trouble is this guy in? Taxes? Overspending on lavish shopping trips, cars and whatever else, and the credit cards came due? Gang extortion?

    I mean, I don't agree with piracy, but he could have sued a long time ago. The courts will probably see this as a get-rich-quick scheme to alleviate his debt.

    It's one thing to sue and recover damages when you're done wrong. It's another to sue and recover damages when you've never really cared before, but suddenly need or want money and decide to cash in on deeds done wrong to you.

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  84. Doesn't change what I think of him by Gallomimia · · Score: 1

    At all.

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  85. Kanye West is an ... by gordguide · · Score: 1

    I am working on an app that will insure my golden years will be awash in dollars.

    It will simply banish any news item, any television story, any music performance live or recorded, and any an all reference however transmitted, to Mr West from annoying the buyer. At 99c a pop, I expect to surpass Bill and Melinda's bank account within weeks after release.

    My only regret is it's not ready this very second.

    Aw, what the Hell. The Linux version will be free. You guys deserve it.

  86. If he needs to make money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah maybe he can get back the $53 he lost. Why doesn't he try appearing on his wife's family reality show or maybe they are afraid his vast audience will spoil the show. LOL

  87. The Pirate Bay Responds to Kanye West by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of this should be read in context with Kanye's mulit-day, totally moronic Tweet storm, which includes him crying that he's $53 million in debit and how expensive it was to take care of his family while living his high fashion life style. Finally exhorting and begging for Zuckerberg and other billionaires to help him out, so he can realize his artistic goals Worth reading for hoot.

    But the best laugh came from the TPB's response to the news that Kanye West's threatens to sue them:

    "“Kanye West is a blithering twat who has an incredible sense of self-importance. Even diehard fans are saying his new album sucks balls, but as for Mr. West suing TPB, good luck Kanye! Our legal department will be waiting."

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  89. DOCO x Richie NUZZ by RapShoutout · · Score: 1

    Richie Nuzz - Live It Up REMIX https://www.youtube.com/watch?...