Does anyone know if this will affect Veritas's earlier commitment to use apt-get as the basis of their new enterprise Linux package/resource management system? Imagine the convenience of being able to roll out new desktop systems with a single 'apt-get install desktop' command? apt-get rocks!
Maybe RMS had more than a little to do with this decision due to his close ties with MIT, but recent postings on the Debian developer's list would make it seem that this great project for sharing music is being implemented using Debian servers and Debian technology.
The way the music sharing network will in fact be implemented is via a type of distributed apt-get network. When a user logs on, they automatically download a customised apt.sources file. The software then uses this apt.sources file to get the locations of other clients containing, in turn, further apt.sources files. Very quickly, this cascade of apt.sources requests means that you can locate pretty much any file you want. The client software then issues an apt-get call behind the scenes to start the music download. Brilliant!
It gets better. Just say your favorite artist releases a new album. Downloading the new album is a simple matter of issuing an apt-get update command, and your old songs will be upgraded to the new songs.
This is a victory for the hard working Debian developers and the students and staff of MIT. apt-get rock on dude!
Phear not my fellow debian devotees! Debian Troll will shortly be releasing a fresh steaming tarball of a carefully coded native OSX apt-get complete with point and click, themeable aqua/brushed metal interface!! Imagine all the p0w3r of debian package management encased in lickable quartz-rendered McWidgets!!! Nearly makes me want to go out and pay twice as much for half the perfomance just to get my debian-loving fingertips on one of teh tasteful powahb00ks!!!
If only the web was as filled with truth and integrity as apt-get, the world's favorite package management tool. The Debian project leaders should be placed in charge of the Internet.
If you had bought a Lindows system, why would you wanna buy XP. You've obviously made a choice not to buy windows.
Especially now that win-apt-get is freely available. If you can't run Debian on these machines, why would you want to run any other Linux? For the package management? No! Debian GNU/Windows XP is here!
This is very interesting, and reinforces the recent trend of video games being turned into films (such as Resident Evil and Final Fantasy). While film studios are not afraid to venture into the realm of video games for new material (as evidenced by the deal with the creator of The Sims), has anyone stopped to think that a really great movie could be spun off from a Linux distribution?
In my breaks from creating Debian GNU/Windows XP (a complete port of the Debian system, using Windows XP as a kernel in the same way that Debian GNU/Hurd operates), I've been working on a screenplay for an exciting new hybrid of the Debian GNU/Linux operating system, and Samuel Beckett's classic play, Waiting for Godot. My screenplay is entitled 'Waiting for Stable', and follows the path of two main characters, Bruce and Richard as they patiently await the arrival of their new Debian stable CD-ROM from Cheapbytes.
The screenplay encompasses approximately 4 years, during which time Bruce and Richard contemplate the meaning of what it is to be human, the nature of the mind, the failures of today's capitalist society, why Bruce can't hold down a job, and why Richard smells so fucking much.
While an engaging plot, strong characters and a sharp, sassy dialog (Bruce: "Which '486 is yours?" RMS: "It's the one that says 'Smelly Motherfucker' on it") are all essential elements of a good film, special effects also go a long way to winning over an audience. 'Waiting for Stable' will also include fully digitally rendered sequences of apt-get dist upgrade performing Bruce's and RMS's installation, and a 3D view of the subsequent dmesg and kernel error log as various 'modprobe failed' messages scroll past as RMS and Bruce try to get their new USB mouse, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro recognised by the aging Stable kernel.
I am a really big Star Wars fan...I can't get enough information about the behind-the-scenes goings on, so this story about the webcam is fantastic!! However, I am an Debian GNU/Linux user, and some people on #debian were telling me that web cams are not supported yet. Is this true? Can I view the Star Wars web cam page even though I am using Debian? Does this have anything to do with apt-get? Apt-get is really neat.
A small number of Debian-hating (probably frustrated RedHat users!!!) have branded my previous post as 'Offtopic' and 'Troll'. It is as crystal clear to me as the 'dpkg' syntax that the posting was not offtopic, as the original article is about making security announcements.
In addition, it cannot be considered a troll, as the Debian Security Alerts really do provide a fantastic resource for the Debian system administrator striving to keep his (or her) enterprise server abreast of GNU/Linux holes and exploits. The following alerts are from the Debian website, and show how quickly the DSAs are produced in response to problems.
Debian Security Alerts for May 2003:
[27 May 2003] DSA-307 gps - multiple
[19 May 2003] DSA-306 ircii-pana - buffer overflows, integer overflow
[15 May 2003] DSA-305 sendmail - insecure temporary files
[15 May 2003] DSA-304 lv - privilege escalation
[15 May 2003] DSA-303 mysql - privilege escalation
[07 May 2003] DSA-302 fuzz - privilege escalation
[07 May 2003] DSA-301 libgtop - buffer overflow
[06 May 2003] DSA-300 balsa - buffer overflow
[06 May 2003] DSA-299 leksbot - improper setuid-root execution
[02 May 2003] DSA-298 epic4 - buffer overflows
As you can see, the DSA team does a GNU/great job of keeping the Debian community informed of security problems. Imagine the significant insight the DSA team could offer the government and the people of California into methods for making sure security breaches and problems were announced in a timely fashion!!
Debian-hating moderators...I beg you to reconsider...please do not allow your zealot-like dedication to a Linux distribution obscure a suggestion which deep within you, you know to be worthy!
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For future reference, messages from someone named "Debian Troll" probably aren't asking intelligent questions about Debian.:)
Does anyone here have any experience install Debian GNU/Linux on one of these 'Tablet PCs'? Are features like the stylus and touch-sensitive screen supported? What about the power management features? Will apt-get be supported?
I suggest that the Debian Security Advisory (DSA) service be used as a distribution system for these government notifications of security breaches. After all, there are several Debian GNU/Linux security breaches and holes discovered every week, and under even this intense pressure, the Debian DSA team does a wonderful job of reporting them in a professional, timely manner.
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Fellow Debian Users,
Has anyone tried to install this new version of Ximian on their Debian systems? Does it integrate well with the distro? Should I use Ximian instead of apt-get?
Now that the Indian government has put forward a very public commitment to Open Source technologies, I feel it is safe to make an announcement of my own. Bruce Perens was fired from HP as a Debian evangelist because the entire HP Debian team had been outsourced to an IT firm in New Delhi. Astute subscribers to the Debian mailing lists will have noticed a gradual increase in the number of.deb packages now being maintained by 'IT sweatshop' laborers in India. Debian, for all intents and purposes, is now out of the hands of the Americans and the Europeans, and is now where so many IT projects are destined for, on the Indian subcontinent.
What? It's open source and runs on Linux! It's not possible for it to have bugs!
And Debian to boot! Surely an apt-get update should make the bugs go away. Or at least stable, meaning that we have to wait another 4 years before a new version gets released.
If it runs under Linux, then you can get it to run under Debian using binary hardware emulation and an ordinary hex-editor.
Oh, OK. The reason I was asking is that I've been told many times by the friendly folk on #debian that it isn't actually Linux, it's GNU/Linux. I wasn't sure if they were the same thing.
Also, from the sample questions from the Dutch version of it, many of the questions seems to yield to a brute-force computational approach.
Yep, this is a pretty obvious way to approach it. Indeed, a team from the Information Technology and Systems faculty at the Delft Technical University in Holland have published a report on how they did exactly that.
My Dutch isn't all that great (I spent 12 months as a postdoctoral researcher in their operating systems software distribution group working on a Beowulf-aware version of apt-get, but most of the staff spoke perfect English), but it looks like they deployed a 256-node cluster running a highly tweaked version of Debian GNU/Hurd, and were able to solve the problem in 14 days, 4 hours and 17 minutes of computation time.
While I'm sure that's not impressive for the folks at Google, what with their massive GNU/Linux clusters for web searching and keeping their apt.sources files up to date, it does go to show how even a smallish CS faculty can crack these tough sorts of problems using the power of clustering, Debian, and apt-get.
I've just gotten off the phone with Bruce Perens, talking about that very topic! At the moment, both Bruce and I are too busy to devote much time to our Debian-focused e-newsletter, Elitist Open Source Zealot Virgin. As you may be aware, I am totally consumed with my current Windows port of apt-get, and Bruce has a full time job just keeping the hobos and crack junkies out of his cardboard box underneath the 23rd Street rail bridge.
* a left hand
* a right hand
* and a lack of knowledge
Strangely, these qualities are exactly those required for the infamous 'fists of fury' masturbation technique, and to be a raving Debian zealot. I should know!!! apt-get apt-get hooray!
It gets annoying after a while, but it is 'cute' enough to impress my girlfriend. And that matters as much as keeping my RedHat system up2date. LOL
If you were using Debian and its fantastic apt-get package management system, you wouldn't need to worry about that (using up2date or having a girlfriend).
apt-get zealotry makes life simple in more ways than one!
Hi Fellow Debian Users,
As a special 'thank you' to all the tireless community volunteers and developers who make Debian such a great Linux distribution, I would like to announce that I have made Winamp available as a Debian package. It is available for download from the Debian web site.
Please note however that this is in fact a Windows Win32 binary and you will not be able to install it on either Debian (because it's Linux) or Windows (because it doesn't support apt-get....yet).
Those following my progress closely will know that win-apt-get is not far from completion! Soon we shall all be able to enjoy the rich, unadulterated MP3 sounds of Winamp, the security and configurability of Windows, and the superior package management of apt-get. It's a great day to be a Debian user.
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Does anyone know if this will affect Veritas's earlier commitment to use apt-get as the basis of their new enterprise Linux package/resource management system? Imagine the convenience of being able to roll out new desktop systems with a single 'apt-get install desktop' command? apt-get rocks!
The way the music sharing network will in fact be implemented is via a type of distributed apt-get network. When a user logs on, they automatically download a customised apt.sources file. The software then uses this apt.sources file to get the locations of other clients containing, in turn, further apt.sources files. Very quickly, this cascade of apt.sources requests means that you can locate pretty much any file you want. The client software then issues an apt-get call behind the scenes to start the music download. Brilliant! It gets better. Just say your favorite artist releases a new album. Downloading the new album is a simple matter of issuing an apt-get update command, and your old songs will be upgraded to the new songs. This is a victory for the hard working Debian developers and the students and staff of MIT. apt-get rock on dude!
i have tried looking, but i can't seem to find any debian packages for this. can anyone give me some pointers?
Phear not my fellow debian devotees! Debian Troll will shortly be releasing a fresh steaming tarball of a carefully coded native OSX apt-get complete with point and click, themeable aqua/brushed metal interface!! Imagine all the p0w3r of debian package management encased in lickable quartz-rendered McWidgets!!! Nearly makes me want to go out and pay twice as much for half the perfomance just to get my debian-loving fingertips on one of teh tasteful powahb00ks!!!
Thank you.
Thankyou.
can anyone tell me if this will be a version for debian?
Especially now that win-apt-get is freely available. If you can't run Debian on these machines, why would you want to run any other Linux? For the package management? No! Debian GNU/Windows XP is here!
In my breaks from creating Debian GNU/Windows XP (a complete port of the Debian system, using Windows XP as a kernel in the same way that Debian GNU/Hurd operates), I've been working on a screenplay for an exciting new hybrid of the Debian GNU/Linux operating system, and Samuel Beckett's classic play, Waiting for Godot. My screenplay is entitled 'Waiting for Stable', and follows the path of two main characters, Bruce and Richard as they patiently await the arrival of their new Debian stable CD-ROM from Cheapbytes.
The screenplay encompasses approximately 4 years, during which time Bruce and Richard contemplate the meaning of what it is to be human, the nature of the mind, the failures of today's capitalist society, why Bruce can't hold down a job, and why Richard smells so fucking much.
While an engaging plot, strong characters and a sharp, sassy dialog (Bruce: "Which '486 is yours?" RMS: "It's the one that says 'Smelly Motherfucker' on it") are all essential elements of a good film, special effects also go a long way to winning over an audience. 'Waiting for Stable' will also include fully digitally rendered sequences of apt-get dist upgrade performing Bruce's and RMS's installation, and a 3D view of the subsequent dmesg and kernel error log as various 'modprobe failed' messages scroll past as RMS and Bruce try to get their new USB mouse, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro recognised by the aging Stable kernel.
I am a really big Star Wars fan...I can't get enough information about the behind-the-scenes goings on, so this story about the webcam is fantastic!! However, I am an Debian GNU/Linux user, and some people on #debian were telling me that web cams are not supported yet. Is this true? Can I view the Star Wars web cam page even though I am using Debian? Does this have anything to do with apt-get? Apt-get is really neat.
A small number of Debian-hating (probably frustrated RedHat users!!!) have branded my previous post as 'Offtopic' and 'Troll'. It is as crystal clear to me as the 'dpkg' syntax that the posting was not offtopic, as the original article is about making security announcements.
In addition, it cannot be considered a troll, as the Debian Security Alerts really do provide a fantastic resource for the Debian system administrator striving to keep his (or her) enterprise server abreast of GNU/Linux holes and exploits. The following alerts are from the Debian website, and show how quickly the DSAs are produced in response to problems.
Debian Security Alerts for May 2003:
[27 May 2003] DSA-307 gps - multiple
[19 May 2003] DSA-306 ircii-pana - buffer overflows, integer overflow
[15 May 2003] DSA-305 sendmail - insecure temporary files
[15 May 2003] DSA-304 lv - privilege escalation
[15 May 2003] DSA-303 mysql - privilege escalation
[07 May 2003] DSA-302 fuzz - privilege escalation
[07 May 2003] DSA-301 libgtop - buffer overflow
[06 May 2003] DSA-300 balsa - buffer overflow
[06 May 2003] DSA-299 leksbot - improper setuid-root execution
[02 May 2003] DSA-298 epic4 - buffer overflows
As you can see, the DSA team does a GNU/great job of keeping the Debian community informed of security problems. Imagine the significant insight the DSA team could offer the government and the people of California into methods for making sure security breaches and problems were announced in a timely fashion!!
Debian-hating moderators...I beg you to reconsider...please do not allow your zealot-like dedication to a Linux distribution obscure a suggestion which deep within you, you know to be worthy!
Shhhhh! You'll blow my GNU/cover!!!
Does anyone here have any experience install Debian GNU/Linux on one of these 'Tablet PCs'? Are features like the stylus and touch-sensitive screen supported? What about the power management features? Will apt-get be supported?
I suggest that the Debian Security Advisory (DSA) service be used as a distribution system for these government notifications of security breaches. After all, there are several Debian GNU/Linux security breaches and holes discovered every week, and under even this intense pressure, the Debian DSA team does a wonderful job of reporting them in a professional, timely manner.
Has anyone tried to install this new version of Ximian on their Debian systems? Does it integrate well with the distro? Should I use Ximian instead of apt-get?
Jodie, unfortunately, was all too aware of the Debian release cycle.
Please adjust your apt.sources files accordingly.
And Debian to boot! Surely an apt-get update should make the bugs go away. Or at least stable, meaning that we have to wait another 4 years before a new version gets released.
Oh, OK. The reason I was asking is that I've been told many times by the friendly folk on #debian that it isn't actually Linux, it's GNU/Linux. I wasn't sure if they were the same thing.
Does anyone know if there is a Debian package available of this game?
Yep, this is a pretty obvious way to approach it. Indeed, a team from the Information Technology and Systems faculty at the Delft Technical University in Holland have published a report on how they did exactly that.
My Dutch isn't all that great (I spent 12 months as a postdoctoral researcher in their operating systems software distribution group working on a Beowulf-aware version of apt-get, but most of the staff spoke perfect English), but it looks like they deployed a 256-node cluster running a highly tweaked version of Debian GNU/Hurd, and were able to solve the problem in 14 days, 4 hours and 17 minutes of computation time.
While I'm sure that's not impressive for the folks at Google, what with their massive GNU/Linux clusters for web searching and keeping their apt.sources files up to date, it does go to show how even a smallish CS faculty can crack these tough sorts of problems using the power of clustering, Debian, and apt-get.
I've just gotten off the phone with Bruce Perens, talking about that very topic! At the moment, both Bruce and I are too busy to devote much time to our Debian-focused e-newsletter, Elitist Open Source Zealot Virgin. As you may be aware, I am totally consumed with my current Windows port of apt-get, and Bruce has a full time job just keeping the hobos and crack junkies out of his cardboard box underneath the 23rd Street rail bridge.
Sincerely,
Debian Troll.
A cliche regarding:
* a left hand
* a right hand
* and a lack of knowledge
Strangely, these qualities are exactly those required for the infamous 'fists of fury' masturbation technique, and to be a raving Debian zealot. I should know!!! apt-get apt-get hooray!
If you were using Debian and its fantastic apt-get package management system, you wouldn't need to worry about that (using up2date or having a girlfriend).
apt-get zealotry makes life simple in more ways than one!
Please note however that this is in fact a Windows Win32 binary and you will not be able to install it on either Debian (because it's Linux) or Windows (because it doesn't support apt-get....yet).
Those following my progress closely will know that win-apt-get is not far from completion! Soon we shall all be able to enjoy the rich, unadulterated MP3 sounds of Winamp, the security and configurability of Windows, and the superior package management of apt-get. It's a great day to be a Debian user.
well, i particularly enjoyed Inside Richard Stallman. it's amazing seeing where this inspirational guy get's all his ideas.