It's really fun to watch MSFT get their butt handed to them. Big fine, court appeal DENIED, now STFU!
No sympathy for them at all. They deserve that and more. Weird such a big company with so many people who absolutely hate and despise them. You don't find that many people hating GE.
At least this way a consumer could go home and read the license off the URL before opening the package.
It would almost be better to have people bringing the unopened software back saying something about reading the terms online and not agreeing to all that. When EULA's start translating into lost business they will change.
Big software buyers are also starting to demand changes in the licensing agreements. When confronted with a "if you don't like it get out" from a big buyer companies will roll over. You don't hear about it as much but it's happening more and more. Not as much with MSFT, but if was a deal breaker I'd bet money they'd roll. If anyone else has pushed them on that I'd love to hear about it.
But it is depressing that not much of this money goes back to the community.
What about something like the model CrossOver uses? Let the community bid or pledge for specific changes or upgrades.
I remember talking to a customer in Florida a while ago wondering when MySQL would support stored procedures. They said, "We'd pay them to work on that." Made me wonder why that model couldn't be used on a wider basis in OSS development.
It preserves your freedom while encouraging development on the most widely desired features.
stly everything runs behind a Freesco firewall on a retired PII box. Then Norton looks after the viruses and updates regularly. SpyBot and AdAware run as cronjobs twice a week. The excellent Supertrick XG - http://www.filesharingplace.com/supertrickxg/main. htm - puts in a big Hosts Deny file and a few other dodges. Firefox browser and Mailwasher + Thunderbird for email. No problems - ever!
I count eight different software products you have to use to keep Windows relatively uninfected. I'm glad you're knowledgable enough to do that at home, but the average user can barely find the power switch.
The only safe copy of Windows is the copy not connected to the internet.
Why aren't IBM notebooks some of the first dual boot machines on the market? You can't convince me that with IBM's resources they can't produce a neat little laptop. Buy Xandros and tweak that if they had to.
Hello, McFly! Anybody awake in Atlanta? All aboard the clue train, leaving on track 9.
Shut down the GPS system in response to a terrorist attack? Like the terrorists are using GPS to escape. Or maybe they've managed to build some sophisticated cruise missile that relies on US GPS to navigate? Nah. Bogus.
There's something really not right about this, it sounds more like a cover story. Not saying there's anything more to it than what's in the article, but it feels suspicious. I could think of more good reasons to disable the cell phone system than GPS.
To the Windows spyware law. Good luck getting that installed on any of my home machines. It would take them a long time to hack their way in from the outside. Executing a sneak-and-peek would require getting past the dogs...I would pay money to watch that.
They can sniff my packets because that's all they're going to get.
My apologies to Xandros-running uber geeks everywhere! lol.
You're right on about the time savings. Printers, scanners, share drives with the token Windows box...it's a breeze.
Just ordered the boxed edition of 3.0. Can't wait. Wish I could find a customer for their desktop management server. Be fun to play around with that.
I bet you could substitute Xandros on business desktops and most users would hardly notice the difference. Except that wasn't crashing from a virus every other day.
The only real advantage MSFT has on OSS is their marketing department. Of course they're going to try and buy their way in through the back door if they can't get in the front door.
As annoying as it is it's kind of a back-handed compliment to OSS. MSFT has to bribe people to use their software. HAHAHAHA! Loooossssseeerrrrsssss.
Xandros is the only OS this box has seen. Some minor problems here and there but overall it's the least frustrating transition distro I've tried.
It's not free but comes bundled with CrossOver, which is not a free app. And it works. It's amazing to run IE and Photoshop on this box.
If you're an uber geek Xandros isn't for you. I use it because it's easy and when I get home from the MSFT environment at work I don't want to fight with technology. I just want something that works without being a security freak show and that's Xandros.
You'd be wrong making that assumption. I'm as conservative as they come and have the family credentials to prove it.
The modern right wing in the US are not conservatives, they're neocons. A blend of religion, big business and big government. True conservatives find them in many ways offensive.
You're assuming anyone disagreeing with you is a liberal. I imagine that reduces politics to a mental level you can tolerate.
The truth is a commodity in pretty short supply these days in any arena. Corporate America lies to us, government lies to us, the military. And we just take it. It's so common it's considered routine. We know they're lying to us and as long as it supports a narrow political agenda, then it's fine.
That would seem a little like retaliation, but what's the down side? Let's anyone thinking about suing MSFT for a patent violation know that they better have their software licenses up to date. And their respective legal firms.
It's easier to get products to market in Japan without being regulated to death? And here in the litigation-happy USA we'll sue any of you almond-eyed little weasels trying to import anything that isn't completely, 100% idiot proof. Because here we have no responsibility for our personal choices. If we decide to use one of your electronic gizmos as a tub toy and that electrically powered instrument isn't clearly marked DO NOT USE AS A TUB TOY, we're going to sue your ass.
Because this is the country where we have to put stickers on pop machines that say if you pull this pop machine over on yourself you might die, where we have to print DO NOT DRIVE WITH SUN SHIELD IN PLACE on the back of cardboard sun screens and PULL TAB TO OPEN because sure as you're born there will be some idiot trying to cut the top of the can off with his pocket knife and he'll slip and cut himself.
Yes, we've really become that stupid. Just look at who we elected president any time you're tempted to doubt it.
Consolidating all this information off shore facilities is going to be a real boon to the Chinese and Indian governments. All that juicy data on those fat and stupid Americans. And it won't cost them a penny. They'll simply help themselves to copies. No one in the companies would dare complain or refuse.
This guy is doing it here, but as the off shore trend increases the information is going to become more available to potentially hostile foreign governments.
Manage it now or pay the price later. We're already paying the price with companies like this one cropping up. This is nothing less than domestic spying.
Unlikely to appeal to the brick box with a tar paper roof mentality, but I've run these designs past a lot of people and most like them. We're building one with an off-grid power system. Should be done by this time next year.
Guess we'll find out the hard way about resale value when it comes time to move. We'll see if people scoff at the idea of living in a radar dome.
At somepoint, the networks need to realize that WE WANT OUR PROGRAMMING OUR WAY.
And why would the networks give a crap about what any of us want? A company paying thousands for an ad slot wants to hear about the little gimmicks the network plays with programming to make sure their ad gets eyeballs, throws off Tivo's ability to skip commercials, whatever. It's not so important that it really works as the network being able to convince the ad buyer that it works.
I got fed up with premium channels airing the same crap movies over and over so I cancelled all of them and got a Netflix subscription. Much nicer and saved us a bunch of money. Since most good TV series eventually come out on DVD, then all we have to do is wait a bit for them to make it Netflix and we watch them commercial free on our schedule.
The only way you really get programming your way is to produce it.
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No sympathy for them at all. They deserve that and more. Weird such a big company with so many people who absolutely hate and despise them. You don't find that many people hating GE.
Yet.
It would almost be better to have people bringing the unopened software back saying something about reading the terms online and not agreeing to all that. When EULA's start translating into lost business they will change.
Big software buyers are also starting to demand changes in the licensing agreements. When confronted with a "if you don't like it get out" from a big buyer companies will roll over. You don't hear about it as much but it's happening more and more. Not as much with MSFT, but if was a deal breaker I'd bet money they'd roll. If anyone else has pushed them on that I'd love to hear about it.
What about something like the model CrossOver uses? Let the community bid or pledge for specific changes or upgrades.
I remember talking to a customer in Florida a while ago wondering when MySQL would support stored procedures. They said, "We'd pay them to work on that." Made me wonder why that model couldn't be used on a wider basis in OSS development.
It preserves your freedom while encouraging development on the most widely desired features.
Donno, just thinking out loud.
And the other 20% are unplugged.
I count eight different software products you have to use to keep Windows relatively uninfected. I'm glad you're knowledgable enough to do that at home, but the average user can barely find the power switch.
The only safe copy of Windows is the copy not connected to the internet.
Makes you wonder how long the MSFT sheepies are going to keep taking it up the pooper?
Why aren't IBM notebooks some of the first dual boot machines on the market? You can't convince me that with IBM's resources they can't produce a neat little laptop. Buy Xandros and tweak that if they had to.
Hello, McFly! Anybody awake in Atlanta? All aboard the clue train, leaving on track 9.
This gets mod'ed as insightful? Since when is it paranoid or left wing not to want to be photographed for every freaking little thing?
I and a lot of other people will stop reading it.
Gosh, what a shame that would be. Apparently only Fox News is the only fair and balanced news source in your book.
There's something really not right about this, it sounds more like a cover story. Not saying there's anything more to it than what's in the article, but it feels suspicious. I could think of more good reasons to disable the cell phone system than GPS.
The whole class could've passed just spending 15 minutes looking at IE.
What a great combination: Brains and beauty. Intelligent women are very sexy. When they're good looking, that's a bonus.
Finally! A study to document the entirely obvious.
They can sniff my packets because that's all they're going to get.
My apologies to Xandros-running uber geeks everywhere! lol.
You're right on about the time savings. Printers, scanners, share drives with the token Windows box...it's a breeze.
Just ordered the boxed edition of 3.0. Can't wait. Wish I could find a customer for their desktop management server. Be fun to play around with that.
I bet you could substitute Xandros on business desktops and most users would hardly notice the difference. Except that wasn't crashing from a virus every other day.
As annoying as it is it's kind of a back-handed compliment to OSS. MSFT has to bribe people to use their software. HAHAHAHA! Loooossssseeerrrrsssss.
Certification? We don't need no stinking certification!
It's not free but comes bundled with CrossOver, which is not a free app. And it works. It's amazing to run IE and Photoshop on this box.
If you're an uber geek Xandros isn't for you. I use it because it's easy and when I get home from the MSFT environment at work I don't want to fight with technology. I just want something that works without being a security freak show and that's Xandros.
The modern right wing in the US are not conservatives, they're neocons. A blend of religion, big business and big government. True conservatives find them in many ways offensive.
You're assuming anyone disagreeing with you is a liberal. I imagine that reduces politics to a mental level you can tolerate.
The truth is a commodity in pretty short supply these days in any arena. Corporate America lies to us, government lies to us, the military. And we just take it. It's so common it's considered routine. We know they're lying to us and as long as it supports a narrow political agenda, then it's fine.
That would seem a little like retaliation, but what's the down side? Let's anyone thinking about suing MSFT for a patent violation know that they better have their software licenses up to date. And their respective legal firms.
Because this is the country where we have to put stickers on pop machines that say if you pull this pop machine over on yourself you might die, where we have to print DO NOT DRIVE WITH SUN SHIELD IN PLACE on the back of cardboard sun screens and PULL TAB TO OPEN because sure as you're born there will be some idiot trying to cut the top of the can off with his pocket knife and he'll slip and cut himself.
Yes, we've really become that stupid. Just look at who we elected president any time you're tempted to doubt it.
This guy is doing it here, but as the off shore trend increases the information is going to become more available to potentially hostile foreign governments.
Manage it now or pay the price later. We're already paying the price with companies like this one cropping up. This is nothing less than domestic spying.
I think these represent a reasonable compromise.
Unlikely to appeal to the brick box with a tar paper roof mentality, but I've run these designs past a lot of people and most like them. We're building one with an off-grid power system. Should be done by this time next year.
Guess we'll find out the hard way about resale value when it comes time to move. We'll see if people scoff at the idea of living in a radar dome.
And why would the networks give a crap about what any of us want? A company paying thousands for an ad slot wants to hear about the little gimmicks the network plays with programming to make sure their ad gets eyeballs, throws off Tivo's ability to skip commercials, whatever. It's not so important that it really works as the network being able to convince the ad buyer that it works.
I got fed up with premium channels airing the same crap movies over and over so I cancelled all of them and got a Netflix subscription. Much nicer and saved us a bunch of money. Since most good TV series eventually come out on DVD, then all we have to do is wait a bit for them to make it Netflix and we watch them commercial free on our schedule.
The only way you really get programming your way is to produce it.