Sharing keys is a violation of the EULA. Sharing keys without copying the disk is pointless. Copying the disk in and of itself is no problem, although it might be a violation of the EULA as well. Distributing a copied disk is already covered as a violation of copyright. So DRM is still useless in this scenario as it enforces nothing. The fact that all DRM'd software you'd care to download is available on pirate sites is a trumpeting testament to exactly how ineffective and useless current DRM is as long as the lock and key are both held by the user. As soon as you separate the key, which is what MS tried to do, then you have a much more secure system that becomes much more difficult to break, as your options for DRM become much more interesting.
You sure suck at arguing or you attempted to inject the most and most densely packed fallacies into a single post I've ever seen. First, you tried argumentum ad ignorantiam, by asserting DRM in its current form is not useless. Then several red herrings combined with moral high ground fallacies of "minimally invasive", respect of key, law, and people working in the industry (you could go either way with the last few). Then you load up a strawman and appeal to worse problems with regards to murder. Then incorporate some Reductio Ad Absurdum in the "lock everyone in prison" to finally some Appeal To Widespread Belief, that DRM is "educating" or "offering reminders of the rules".
I missed a few in there, and some may actually be parts of others, such as the Bad Analogy (murder again). But there's only so much time in the day. Kudos. I'm impressed.
If it isn't as easy to integrate into webmail as "clicky clicky" you can give it up chuck,nobody but NOBODY uses download mail anymore.
That's hilarious - almost NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, uses webmail that I know. They all use download clients. Why? Because they're not always online and wish to read and respond to email when it's convenient to them, not only when they're online.
Besides, webmail sucks eggs. I especially hate Gmail and GCalendar, which has fubarred the ICalendar standard so that the invites can't be reliably processed by anything other than the stupid web link provided. This is to force you to log in to Google so they can track your activity across the web. Nice of them, isn't it?
people running servers should not be the masses in general. These would be the same masses that click on the "Please enter your bank credentials in our scam site - click here" links.
I've used several different versions of various software, for communications. It's really not difficult to implement or use properly, and could probably be simplified. There are reasons for not allowing it. Enterprise servers for instance, you don't own that email, your company does, and may need access to it at any time for legal purposes, to name one reason. Chat programs, however, are inexcusable. OTR has been out for 10 years at least and is about as simple a tool to use as exists out there. With a couple of simple mods, it should be possible to automate the entire process for the masses, but no one's bothered.
Having used PGP for email long ago, it really was "clicky clicky" simple, if your system supported it. The only reason it's "hard" is because apparently those making software either don't have the expertise or have been encouraged not to.
The NSA only participates in activities governed by Congress, President and the Courts.
That only holds as long as there is effective oversight. When the head of the NSA publicly admits to lying to the overseers, you have an ungoverned agency, also known as "rogue".
DRM keys to unlock media are largely useless. They get shared or they'll require an always on internet connection to validate the instance to be useful as DRM. MS realized this, and took the next step to lock it down. Apparently, people balked in large enough numbers to change that policy. So what happens? DRM is useless again, like it always has been for this use.
I mean really, Lucas has screwed these films up so badly, he's even sullied the original 2, which were decent to great when they came out. The prequels were so awful and badly cast that no one that watched the originals cared to watch them.
That was my point - it is now out in the open that there is 0 credibility with the supposed oversight. I'm coming at this from a different viewpoint I guess, I don't see it as being "forced to face the music" so much as "look at what's behind the green curtain".
He might have been less hunted had he stuck to only revealing violations of US citizen's rights. We'll never know.
In no particular order: Documentum. Alfresco, Drupal, Joomla, PHP enterprise scale sites, CVS, MKS, TFS, SOAs designed from a "services viewpoint", any OO language code written by procedural programmers,.NET, MS SQL, etc etc etc.
Basically, it boils down to "working with badly written and/or designed software"
I use a 2560X1600 and a 1920x1200. I find myself wanting a second 2560x1600, and then I'd rotate the 1920x1200 to vertical orientation for documents. Maybe in a little bit, as prices for the 2560s will hopefully be coming down as 4K screens start rolling out.
I'm aware that there is "legal precedent" but that "precedent" can also be in violation of our Constitution. IMNSHO, it is. But even with the property precedent, that does not remove your copyright privileges, which last like 90 years after your grandkids die. And given the MPAA/RIAA precedents, apparently their downloading or accessing of your email should result in fines of 20K-150K per instance. (Hey, what's good for the goose....)
Email is considered your personal effect, therefore is covered, and not only covered by the 4th, but copyright as well. They are not allowed to copy it without your explicit consent. I'm sure we could get "creative" and cover the rest. Government keeping tabs on who you associate with - 1st amendment - right to assembly. That should cover about 90% of what they're tracking today.
Seriously. I do research with human subjects. If I don't have at least some people choose to decline participation at the point of informed consent, then I assume my consent isn't good enough - participating in any given research project is *always* not a good choice for at least one person.
Then again, you have the interesting situation that formal school-based education is not the correct solution for every single human; using google apps (or whatever cloud-based system a school is considering) is not the correct situation for every child, yet in both cases the benefits to society (shared childhood experience, guaranteed minimum education level; cheaper infrastructure) may wildly outweigh the relatively minor risks for the individuals.
You are aware of these "risks" that you so cavalierly dismiss? I'd say err on the side of safety - if you must have children access cloud services, do so under a proxied account wholly controlled by the school, and regularly switch and delete content. If a single account cannot be tied to an individual reliably, then all data will most likely be "bad". But even so - the data itself is worth something to someone, and should probably not be available to them at all. This whole thing gives me shivers of 1984, Brave New World and Gattaca.
As for paranoia - you're not paranoid if they are watching you - and apparently "they" are, all the time, everywhere you go. At least that's the assumption I'm going with until that's proven incorrect. Given the current headlines that doesn't seem unreasonable anymore. And I used to think some people were paranoid.... What a simpler time that was.
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Sharing keys is a violation of the EULA. Sharing keys without copying the disk is pointless. Copying the disk in and of itself is no problem, although it might be a violation of the EULA as well. Distributing a copied disk is already covered as a violation of copyright. So DRM is still useless in this scenario as it enforces nothing. The fact that all DRM'd software you'd care to download is available on pirate sites is a trumpeting testament to exactly how ineffective and useless current DRM is as long as the lock and key are both held by the user. As soon as you separate the key, which is what MS tried to do, then you have a much more secure system that becomes much more difficult to break, as your options for DRM become much more interesting.
You sure suck at arguing or you attempted to inject the most and most densely packed fallacies into a single post I've ever seen. First, you tried argumentum ad ignorantiam, by asserting DRM in its current form is not useless. Then several red herrings combined with moral high ground fallacies of "minimally invasive", respect of key, law, and people working in the industry (you could go either way with the last few). Then you load up a strawman and appeal to worse problems with regards to murder. Then incorporate some Reductio Ad Absurdum in the "lock everyone in prison" to finally some Appeal To Widespread Belief, that DRM is "educating" or "offering reminders of the rules".
I missed a few in there, and some may actually be parts of others, such as the Bad Analogy (murder again). But there's only so much time in the day. Kudos. I'm impressed.
If it isn't as easy to integrate into webmail as "clicky clicky" you can give it up chuck,nobody but NOBODY uses download mail anymore.
That's hilarious - almost NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, uses webmail that I know. They all use download clients. Why? Because they're not always online and wish to read and respond to email when it's convenient to them, not only when they're online.
Besides, webmail sucks eggs. I especially hate Gmail and GCalendar, which has fubarred the ICalendar standard so that the invites can't be reliably processed by anything other than the stupid web link provided. This is to force you to log in to Google so they can track your activity across the web. Nice of them, isn't it?
people running servers should not be the masses in general. These would be the same masses that click on the "Please enter your bank credentials in our scam site - click here" links.
I've used several different versions of various software, for communications. It's really not difficult to implement or use properly, and could probably be simplified. There are reasons for not allowing it. Enterprise servers for instance, you don't own that email, your company does, and may need access to it at any time for legal purposes, to name one reason. Chat programs, however, are inexcusable. OTR has been out for 10 years at least and is about as simple a tool to use as exists out there. With a couple of simple mods, it should be possible to automate the entire process for the masses, but no one's bothered.
Having used PGP for email long ago, it really was "clicky clicky" simple, if your system supported it. The only reason it's "hard" is because apparently those making software either don't have the expertise or have been encouraged not to.
Considering how many people on this site are pirates, then yes, NSA monitors Slashdot more.
Just because we know how and don't subscribe to DRM and other crap doesn't mean we're "pirates".
The NSA only participates in activities governed by Congress, President and the Courts.
That only holds as long as there is effective oversight. When the head of the NSA publicly admits to lying to the overseers, you have an ungoverned agency, also known as "rogue".
DRM keys to unlock media are largely useless. They get shared or they'll require an always on internet connection to validate the instance to be useful as DRM. MS realized this, and took the next step to lock it down. Apparently, people balked in large enough numbers to change that policy. So what happens? DRM is useless again, like it always has been for this use.
I mean really, Lucas has screwed these films up so badly, he's even sullied the original 2, which were decent to great when they came out. The prequels were so awful and badly cast that no one that watched the originals cared to watch them.
You are wrong ! A simple search shows that it was illegal until very recently.
We now hear that the french are partaking of this level of spying?
You doubted this with the French ban on encryption? Why else would it be illegal to use encrypted communications?
I have nothing to hide !
says the AC....
You'll have to change your name - Joce is not acceptable.
Note who holds the real power in Egypt - it's not the politicians.
That was my point - it is now out in the open that there is 0 credibility with the supposed oversight. I'm coming at this from a different viewpoint I guess, I don't see it as being "forced to face the music" so much as "look at what's behind the green curtain".
He might have been less hunted had he stuck to only revealing violations of US citizen's rights. We'll never know.
In no particular order: Documentum. Alfresco, Drupal, Joomla, PHP enterprise scale sites, CVS, MKS, TFS, SOAs designed from a "services viewpoint", any OO language code written by procedural programmers, .NET, MS SQL, etc etc etc.
Basically, it boils down to "working with badly written and/or designed software"
I use a 2560X1600 and a 1920x1200. I find myself wanting a second 2560x1600, and then I'd rotate the 1920x1200 to vertical orientation for documents. Maybe in a little bit, as prices for the 2560s will hopefully be coming down as 4K screens start rolling out.
The story here is that Clapper flat out lied under oath to Congress. So everything he said, ever, is no longer credible.
I'm aware that there is "legal precedent" but that "precedent" can also be in violation of our Constitution. IMNSHO, it is. But even with the property precedent, that does not remove your copyright privileges, which last like 90 years after your grandkids die. And given the MPAA/RIAA precedents, apparently their downloading or accessing of your email should result in fines of 20K-150K per instance. (Hey, what's good for the goose....)
Email is considered your personal effect, therefore is covered, and not only covered by the 4th, but copyright as well. They are not allowed to copy it without your explicit consent. I'm sure we could get "creative" and cover the rest. Government keeping tabs on who you associate with - 1st amendment - right to assembly. That should cover about 90% of what they're tracking today.
And these cards don't help change that scenario either.
Why would ANYONE want these cards - that completely contrary to all sorts of desired activities, such as paying your bills, mortgage, and saving.
Or a Faraday cage around the building - stops all those issues except for the talking.
Freedom implies no censorship.
'Why is "bringing about paranoia" a problem?'
Seriously. I do research with human subjects. If I don't have at least some people choose to decline participation at the point of informed consent, then I assume my consent isn't good enough - participating in any given research project is *always* not a good choice for at least one person.
Then again, you have the interesting situation that formal school-based education is not the correct solution for every single human; using google apps (or whatever cloud-based system a school is considering) is not the correct situation for every child, yet in both cases the benefits to society (shared childhood experience, guaranteed minimum education level; cheaper infrastructure) may wildly outweigh the relatively minor risks for the individuals.
You are aware of these "risks" that you so cavalierly dismiss? I'd say err on the side of safety - if you must have children access cloud services, do so under a proxied account wholly controlled by the school, and regularly switch and delete content. If a single account cannot be tied to an individual reliably, then all data will most likely be "bad". But even so - the data itself is worth something to someone, and should probably not be available to them at all. This whole thing gives me shivers of 1984, Brave New World and Gattaca.
As for paranoia - you're not paranoid if they are watching you - and apparently "they" are, all the time, everywhere you go. At least that's the assumption I'm going with until that's proven incorrect. Given the current headlines that doesn't seem unreasonable anymore. And I used to think some people were paranoid.... What a simpler time that was.