I've never hard of any of these people, which was probably what you were expecting. I went to all of the web sites you provided but could find no clips for download except for Not Breathing, see below.
OK, so how do you feel about Laurie Anderson, who plays hand-made experimental violins and Pauline Oliveros, who plays Accordian, but not in such a way that you can tell it is an accordian?
Playing old instruments in new ways is what keeps music alive and thriving.
but usually more complicated than "a bunch of wav files you strung together in Acid" (Although that makes me wonder if you've listened to Not Breathing.)
I listened to a little bit of it, but it sounded pretty much like your typical samples over percussion loop techno. I don't know how you can even bear to mention that kind of crap in the same sentence as classical, which is the absolute hardest genre to execute due to the fine degree of dynamic and tempo control and sensitivity that every single musician on stage has to have. Techno, or even popular music can't even begin to compare.
And for clarification, part of what I meant about the limitations of octive based music was looking at stuff like eastern music.
New and interesting scales are always fun to listen to. Try listening to something in the Locrian mode, it'll weird you out without even resorting to random noises.
Interesting note of the day, it's not always an even twelve tone scale. The half step is not the smallest unit of pitch. Microtonal music can go down to quarter steps, but it requires incredible skill to be able to manipulate pitches in ranges that small. There's also temperments of tuning, where each note in the scale is sharped or flatted slightly from its even temperment (straight logarithmic scale of frequencies) pitch to lend a certain flavor to songs played in certain keys. It's how everything used to be tuned.
It ain't a troll just 'cause it's true. There are way too many techno fans with mod points out today. Music always has and always *should* be created by humans using analog instruments.
At least MTV and classical have notes. Holy shit, this stuff offends me. I haven't been studying music theory and applying myself at a *real* instrument, only to have some hack with a circuit board call a bunch of farting noises "music"!
There is only so much you can do when restricting yourself to octive based music
Wrong. Let's say you play eighth notes at 120bpm for three minutes. Even if you restrict yourself to the 7 tones in a particular key instead of a full twelve tone octave, that's 1.3 x 10^325 possible songs.
Okay, so most music has a bit of repetition in it, so let's say the verse lasts 30 seconds out of that song. You still have 1.5 x 10^54 possible verses. And I'm not even taking chords into account.
Only non-musicians think that there's no new music to be made, because non-musicians simply don't realize the potential that exists in every single musical instrument. Of course, the other reason could be because pop musicians aren't even trying anymore. Fact is, there is plenty of original music being made, you just have to look for it. Go down to a big-name music bar on a Friday night instead of browsing slashdot. (Yeah, yeah, I know. But I've got a gig tomorrow.)
On a side note, I am so sick and fucking tired of electronic "music." I don't know about you, but I want my music to be played by a fucking MUSICIAN, wielding an instrument like an extension of his body and putting all the feel and soul into it that ONLY a human can. THAT is music, not a bunch of wav files you strung together in Acid and called a song. Some guy sitting at a keyboard is not a musician, okay?
Let me know when you find electronic music that can make you cry or fall in love or get that amazing "that rocked so much" feeling when you hear a great performace. It's the human element that truly makes music what it is.
When you lose a floppy, you're out $1. When you lose a USB drive you're out $50. As long as you don't lose them, however, USB drives are far superior to floppies, that's why I believe they're the floppy of the future.
I'm gonna get myself one someday when I have money - Poor college student.
I googled for it and it turns out it was from the intro to Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," though Pratchett may have used it also, considering the great amount of writing he does about turtles. =D
The story was that a scientist (accounts vary on his exact identity) had just finished up a speech on orbital mechanics, how the planets move and everything, and he was approached by a very old lady who denounced his entire speech as rubbish, claiming the Earth was flat and resting on the back of a giant tortoise.
"Well, what is the tortoise standing on?" Inquired the scientist, obviously amused.
"You're very clever, young man, very clever, but it's tortoises all the way down!"
Where can I get Science of Discworld? I've read practically the entire series except just a couple that I just can't find in any brick-and-mortar bookstores.
One of my friends was one of the other two people who owned a 3DO. I was too young at the time to really comprehend anything, though. We mostly did the one-on-one skirmishes (forget what they're called. =P)
Now we just need to find the last person who owned a 3DO and see if they had the game too. =D
I'm pretty sure this was in the Anarchist's cookbook. I'd bet that the phone equipment can deal with it, otherwise we'd probably hear more about people doing this sort of thing. Unless nobody is actually stupid enough to try it (thank god).
It's a bit more interesting than most public access, but dear god, I've seen public access with much better production standards. The Mitnick segment, which takes up most of the entire episode, is poorly lit and shot on a single handheld camera. Go out to your local public access facility, you can get yourself a three camera shoot with portable lighting and tripods, which are a MUST if you're shooting an interview. I loved the bit where they said "pay attention, this is tricky to get back together," then played it all in fast forward.
No, protection of existence is the third law and obeying orders is the second. Asimov suggests, however, that that is a gross simplification of what is really going on inside the positronic brain, and that the laws are actually potentials acting against each other. The Third Law potential can be strengthened and the Second weakened to keep people from ordering robots to disassemble themselves and whatnot. The owner of the robot giving an order forcefully would set up a higher potential than some random kid giving one casually. There is one story where someone on Mercury sends out a robot to collect a resource, but does not give the order forcefully, and the resource is in a dangerous area, so the third and second laws duke it out and drive the robot temporarily insane. They end up solving it by putting a human in a dangerous spot to get the robot to react under the first law.
So in short, a human CAN order a robot to its doom, but only if the robot decides that what the human is ordering him to do is worth giving up its existence.
Oh, puh-lease. Cars are machines that were built by people in the first place. Their exact workings are well-known. People are infinitely more complicated machines than anything that humans have ever built. We know only the barest facts about how it works and how things go wrong, or even *what* can go wrong. Why do you think it takes so much more education to fix people than cars?
Your argument will be valid when I see your car posting to slashdot without human help.
it's a tad upsetting to think someone else might single-handedly "claim" the entirity of that pretty disc in the sky.
Someone already has.
There is an international agreement that nobody can own the moon or any other celestial body, but this guy claims there is a loophole that allows individuals to claim celestial property, so he up and claimed most of the solar system and started selling it an acre at a time. I'd love to see how he manages to enforce it when people actually land on the moon and start setting up operations, however.
"You can't do that there, I own that!"
"Oh yeah? Well, you're down there. We're up here. Try and stop us."
And the fact that it had a single-player experience. Honestly, releasing multiplayer-only games just seems like an excuse. "Oh, we didn't want to do any work, so we're just going to let everyone engage in mindless frag-fests."
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I've never hard of any of these people, which was probably what you were expecting. I went to all of the web sites you provided but could find no clips for download except for Not Breathing, see below.
OK, so how do you feel about Laurie Anderson, who plays hand-made experimental violins and Pauline Oliveros, who plays Accordian, but not in such a way that you can tell it is an accordian?
Playing old instruments in new ways is what keeps music alive and thriving.
but usually more complicated than "a bunch of wav files you strung together in Acid" (Although that makes me wonder if you've listened to Not Breathing.)
I listened to a little bit of it, but it sounded pretty much like your typical samples over percussion loop techno. I don't know how you can even bear to mention that kind of crap in the same sentence as classical, which is the absolute hardest genre to execute due to the fine degree of dynamic and tempo control and sensitivity that every single musician on stage has to have. Techno, or even popular music can't even begin to compare.
And for clarification, part of what I meant about the limitations of octive based music was looking at stuff like eastern music.
New and interesting scales are always fun to listen to. Try listening to something in the Locrian mode, it'll weird you out without even resorting to random noises.
Interesting note of the day, it's not always an even twelve tone scale. The half step is not the smallest unit of pitch. Microtonal music can go down to quarter steps, but it requires incredible skill to be able to manipulate pitches in ranges that small. There's also temperments of tuning, where each note in the scale is sharped or flatted slightly from its even temperment (straight logarithmic scale of frequencies) pitch to lend a certain flavor to songs played in certain keys. It's how everything used to be tuned.
Haha, I love it, nice. If you weren't an AC you'd be on my friends list.
Yeah, way to use your "overrated" rating to avoid metamoderation.
It ain't a troll just 'cause it's true. There are way too many techno fans with mod points out today. Music always has and always *should* be created by humans using analog instruments.
At least MTV and classical have notes. Holy shit, this stuff offends me. I haven't been studying music theory and applying myself at a *real* instrument, only to have some hack with a circuit board call a bunch of farting noises "music"!
There is only so much you can do when restricting yourself to octive based music
Wrong. Let's say you play eighth notes at 120bpm for three minutes. Even if you restrict yourself to the 7 tones in a particular key instead of a full twelve tone octave, that's 1.3 x 10^325 possible songs.
Okay, so most music has a bit of repetition in it, so let's say the verse lasts 30 seconds out of that song. You still have 1.5 x 10^54 possible verses. And I'm not even taking chords into account.
Only non-musicians think that there's no new music to be made, because non-musicians simply don't realize the potential that exists in every single musical instrument. Of course, the other reason could be because pop musicians aren't even trying anymore. Fact is, there is plenty of original music being made, you just have to look for it. Go down to a big-name music bar on a Friday night instead of browsing slashdot. (Yeah, yeah, I know. But I've got a gig tomorrow.)
On a side note, I am so sick and fucking tired of electronic "music." I don't know about you, but I want my music to be played by a fucking MUSICIAN, wielding an instrument like an extension of his body and putting all the feel and soul into it that ONLY a human can. THAT is music, not a bunch of wav files you strung together in Acid and called a song. Some guy sitting at a keyboard is not a musician, okay?
Let me know when you find electronic music that can make you cry or fall in love or get that amazing "that rocked so much" feeling when you hear a great performace. It's the human element that truly makes music what it is.
I've been torturing electronics for years, and have some personal instruments that make sounds no commercial synthesizer could ever do.
Probably because nobody in their right mind would actually want their synthesizer to make those kinds of godawful noises.
except perhaps joining the mile-high club in one :-)
Okay, I'll bite... how do you get enough room?! And who's flying the plane?! Hope you have a good autopilot.
Note that I said they are the floppy of the *future.* If you're dealing with hardware from the past, floppies still apply.
When you lose a floppy, you're out $1. When you lose a USB drive you're out $50. As long as you don't lose them, however, USB drives are far superior to floppies, that's why I believe they're the floppy of the future.
I'm gonna get myself one someday when I have money - Poor college student.
I think USB keydrives are the floppy of the future, though admittedly they are really expensive.
From a rough translation at The Fish, combined with what you said, I'd say it means "Or you can marry a Canadian if you don't mind snow."
I googled for it and it turns out it was from the intro to Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," though Pratchett may have used it also, considering the great amount of writing he does about turtles. =D
The story was that a scientist (accounts vary on his exact identity) had just finished up a speech on orbital mechanics, how the planets move and everything, and he was approached by a very old lady who denounced his entire speech as rubbish, claiming the Earth was flat and resting on the back of a giant tortoise.
"Well, what is the tortoise standing on?" Inquired the scientist, obviously amused.
"You're very clever, young man, very clever, but it's tortoises all the way down!"
Where can I get Science of Discworld? I've read practically the entire series except just a couple that I just can't find in any brick-and-mortar bookstores.
I remember reading that in a book somwhere, but don't remember what it was called... Any help?
Maybe the UQM guys should start working on that. =D
One of my friends was one of the other two people who owned a 3DO. I was too young at the time to really comprehend anything, though. We mostly did the one-on-one skirmishes (forget what they're called. =P)
Now we just need to find the last person who owned a 3DO and see if they had the game too. =D
I'm pretty sure this was in the Anarchist's cookbook. I'd bet that the phone equipment can deal with it, otherwise we'd probably hear more about people doing this sort of thing. Unless nobody is actually stupid enough to try it (thank god).
311 as in... The pop/funk band? And you called it informative? {sigh} Do some research people!
It's a bit more interesting than most public access, but dear god, I've seen public access with much better production standards. The Mitnick segment, which takes up most of the entire episode, is poorly lit and shot on a single handheld camera. Go out to your local public access facility, you can get yourself a three camera shoot with portable lighting and tripods, which are a MUST if you're shooting an interview. I loved the bit where they said "pay attention, this is tricky to get back together," then played it all in fast forward.
You see a robot tackling a human in the trailer. That certainly counts as breaking the first law.
No, protection of existence is the third law and obeying orders is the second. Asimov suggests, however, that that is a gross simplification of what is really going on inside the positronic brain, and that the laws are actually potentials acting against each other. The Third Law potential can be strengthened and the Second weakened to keep people from ordering robots to disassemble themselves and whatnot. The owner of the robot giving an order forcefully would set up a higher potential than some random kid giving one casually. There is one story where someone on Mercury sends out a robot to collect a resource, but does not give the order forcefully, and the resource is in a dangerous area, so the third and second laws duke it out and drive the robot temporarily insane. They end up solving it by putting a human in a dangerous spot to get the robot to react under the first law.
So in short, a human CAN order a robot to its doom, but only if the robot decides that what the human is ordering him to do is worth giving up its existence.
this is a good opportunity to pinpoint all those Internet Exploder users within the slashdot community and excommunicate them once and for all.
...or all of the Mozilla users who didn't bother to read the article. (Guilty)
Oh, puh-lease. Cars are machines that were built by people in the first place. Their exact workings are well-known. People are infinitely more complicated machines than anything that humans have ever built. We know only the barest facts about how it works and how things go wrong, or even *what* can go wrong. Why do you think it takes so much more education to fix people than cars?
Your argument will be valid when I see your car posting to slashdot without human help.
it's a tad upsetting to think someone else might single-handedly "claim" the entirity of that pretty disc in the sky.
Someone already has. There is an international agreement that nobody can own the moon or any other celestial body, but this guy claims there is a loophole that allows individuals to claim celestial property, so he up and claimed most of the solar system and started selling it an acre at a time. I'd love to see how he manages to enforce it when people actually land on the moon and start setting up operations, however.
"You can't do that there, I own that!"
"Oh yeah? Well, you're down there. We're up here. Try and stop us."
And the fact that it had a single-player experience. Honestly, releasing multiplayer-only games just seems like an excuse. "Oh, we didn't want to do any work, so we're just going to let everyone engage in mindless frag-fests."