> > but one day it will be too far and we won't have even realised
> Then why will it have been too far?
You have to understand the conservative mindset: it will be bad because at that point in time we will not have the exact same moral reaction as we would today.
Almost any moral change is anathema to conservatives. In the USA, for example, about the only such change they have conceded is that minorities and women should have roughly equal rights to white males. Particularly ludicrous is that some are still against contraceptives....
> Well done those software patent promoting companies, this is like stamping down on pedophillia by abusing kids. Seriously, the world needs to be rid of software patents and this isn't helping!
If you are going to make a sensational comparison, at least make one that is within reason:
Imagine that the whole world is comprised by e.g. only the USA, or only the EU. Now imagine that the corporations within this world are "countries". Stocking up on software patents for defensive purposes is like stocking up on nukes. Ergo, Mutually Assured Destruction.
The main differences are that instead of victims you have settlements, and instead of nuclear scientists you have lawyers doing what lawyers do best: billing a shitload of money.
There is no reason you cannot use an ordinary Creative Commons license for software. For instance, I was just using Python-IRC
But most people prefer either the BSD or GPL for software since they are both hugely popular and compatible in one direction (BSD code can be freely re-licensed under the GPL, and intermixed with already GPLed code). Although I suppose the same might be true of BSD --> CC, there is already a HUGE amount of GPL software out there that you may as well be compatible with if at all possible.
> All DRM sucks as it tries to take away basic functions from the consumer by technichs when laws say otherwise. Its just a way to sidestep fair use law.
The DMCA already took care of sidestepping fair use. DRM is just an implementation.
See you in Canada. All the benefits of living in a modern economy a hair's breath from the world's sole superpower; none of the drawbacks of living in a third world society. You even get to speak English!
If they are still under a copyright, I don't see how Google could provide such a service. AFAIK, I am not allowed to borrow a book from a library and make a complete photocopy of it even for private use.
I will break it down for you.
United States Code, Title 17, Chapter 1, 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include-
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
As Applies to This Index
Four factors to be considered are itemized. These four do not constitute not a list of tests each of which must be passed. Instead, these (and potentially other) factors are to be considered and weighted.
1a) Purpose. The preamble lists fair use purposes. It is not a restrictive list and one can argue that 'indexing' is a fair use. Regardless, the purpose of this index is to aid scholarship which is explicitly listed as a fair use.
1b) Character. This index is of an entirely different character than the original.
1c) Commercial vs. nonprofit. This index is freely accessible.
2) Nature of work. I think we can agree that what Google is indexing is deserving of copyright protection.
3a) Amount copied. This index contains only scrambled phrases. Unscrambled, they compose the entire work, but this is no more than is necessary to achieve its fair use purpose.
3b) Substantiality of copy. None. This index does not make a substantive copy because it is unusable without the original.
4) Effect. This index does not harm the work; it aspires to promote interest in the work.
Although the original work deserves copyright protection, granting the above, it is clear that this index is a fair use. In fact, even a commercial index would be fair use.
no, karma whoring is putting up something informative or interesting to improve my karma score, making a tacky crap joke may gain a few funny mods, but it usually ends up with a net loss of karma
(due to the inevitable overrated mods).
Overrated mods do not affect karma any more than funny mods do.
The IIIs are (+) karma, and Flame/Troll/Red. are (-) karma. That is all.
> At the point where a usable system was achieved. X is nice, but not essential. A kernel, shell, binutils, editor, and compiler are.
Oh yeah? Well I can compile my Linux with ICC and use only BSD userland utilities... for example. No one is going to claim I should call such a system "Intel/BSD/Linux"
Just because GNU are the best tools doesn't entitle them to be propaganda whores.
Slashdot Mirror
> I'm surprised that neither Stargate SG-1 nor Atlantis are on the list.
> Personally, Stargate beats BSG anyday.
Please tell me that was meant to be a joke.
I enjoy the Stargates and have seen every episode ever made at least twice, but they do not come anywhere close to BSG in terms of overall quality.
> > but one day it will be too far and we won't have even realised
> Then why will it have been too far?
You have to understand the conservative mindset: it will be bad because at that point in time we will not have the exact same moral reaction as we would today.
Almost any moral change is anathema to conservatives. In the USA, for example, about the only such change they have conceded is that minorities and women should have roughly equal rights to white males. Particularly ludicrous is that some are still against contraceptives....
> Well done those software patent promoting companies, this is like stamping down on pedophillia by abusing kids. Seriously, the world needs to be rid of software patents and this isn't helping!
If you are going to make a sensational comparison, at least make one that is within reason:
Imagine that the whole world is comprised by e.g. only the USA, or only the EU. Now imagine that the corporations within this world are "countries". Stocking up on software patents for defensive purposes is like stocking up on nukes. Ergo, Mutually Assured Destruction.
The main differences are that instead of victims you have settlements, and instead of nuclear scientists you have lawyers doing what lawyers do best: billing a shitload of money.
That's not a reason if you do not need to make a distinction between source or object code.
It is true that software licenses like the BSD do mention source, but only to say that you can (pretty much) do whatever you want.
CC licenses can be considerably more restrictive than the BSD (especially ShareAlike) but not so much as the GPL.
There is no reason you cannot use an ordinary Creative Commons license for software. For instance, I was just using Python-IRC
But most people prefer either the BSD or GPL for software since they are both hugely popular and compatible in one direction (BSD code can be freely re-licensed under the GPL, and intermixed with already GPLed code). Although I suppose the same might be true of BSD --> CC, there is already a HUGE amount of GPL software out there that you may as well be compatible with if at all possible.
Try the firefox greasemonkey script that automatically links to CoralCache. And MirrorDot. And Google's cache.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/921
> OK, so that would mean when we build biological androids to perform all of these functions, you are willing to say that it's life? I think not.
I think yes.
> We are most likely over 100 years away from being able to achieve such a goal, but someday we will have to answer that very question.
Let's answer it now.
Hence why they, you know, tried to impeach him. That little thing.
> What gives you the right to forbid China from having a say in the administration of the Internet?
i n_mainland_China
The despicable way[1] they currently administer it.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_
I think he's refering to just another wiki engine.
Wiki sites are _extremely_ useful for all sorts of things far transcending OSS and Wikipedia both.
> Theft is a criminal offence and copyright violation is a civil one - HUGE difference.
Naturally, the lack of handcuffs...
See you in Canada. All the benefits of living in a modern economy a hair's breath from the world's sole superpower; none of the drawbacks of living in a third world society. You even get to speak English!
Just be sure to pack heavy, it's cold up here.
Umm... Minsc Groove mp3!
That's where you use readline's Vi or Emacs keys.
What's CTRL+Z for again?
United States Code, Title 17, Chapter 1, 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include-
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
As Applies to This Index
Four factors to be considered are itemized. These four do not constitute not a list of tests each of which must be passed. Instead, these (and potentially other) factors are to be considered and weighted.
1a) Purpose. The preamble lists fair use purposes. It is not a restrictive list and one can argue that 'indexing' is a fair use. Regardless, the purpose of this index is to aid scholarship which is explicitly listed as a fair use.
1b) Character. This index is of an entirely different character than the original.
1c) Commercial vs. nonprofit. This index is freely accessible.
2) Nature of work. I think we can agree that what Google is indexing is deserving of copyright protection.
3a) Amount copied. This index contains only scrambled phrases. Unscrambled, they compose the entire work, but this is no more than is necessary to achieve its fair use purpose.
3b) Substantiality of copy. None. This index does not make a substantive copy because it is unusable without the original.
4) Effect. This index does not harm the work; it aspires to promote interest in the work.
Although the original work deserves copyright protection, granting the above, it is clear that this index is a fair use. In fact, even a commercial index would be fair use.
The IIIs are (+) karma, and Flame/Troll/Red. are (-) karma. That is all.
For us agnostics, that should read:
;)
if [ -r ~/.DEITY ] ; then
. ~/.DEITY
fi
I have a ~/.DEITY file, but it's not readable
What about the very successful Pira^W Corporate Edition ?
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=133
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topichumor.gif
> At the point where a usable system was achieved. X is nice, but not essential. A kernel, shell, binutils, editor, and compiler are.
Oh yeah? Well I can compile my Linux with ICC and use only BSD userland utilities... for example. No one is going to claim I should call such a system "Intel/BSD/Linux"
Just because GNU are the best tools doesn't entitle them to be propaganda whores.
> Which is why he advocates for the system to be called GNU/Linux and not plainly GNU. Makes sense to me.
As others have indicated, why not call desktops GNU/Linux/BSD/X.org/KDE/WTF ? Where do you fraking draw the line?
> a lot of services are becoming a part of the Internet experience, including video, email and voice
Email is becomming part of the internet experience? Hooray! I've been wanting to try this cool new technology for a long time...
> some people consider 'EQ' (emotional intelligence)
to be a greater predictor of 'success in the real world'
And what does that say about the sad state of the 'real world' ?
I'm telling you, it's all part of the vast feminist conspiracy!