I wasn't talking about instant as in no time at all, I meant that instant being in our interpretation of how long something takes to process. The way software is written will change soon. If you look at Star Trek for example, take a couple of their scenarios, they do not write software, they get the computer to do it for them. This is essentially how interfaces and software will be engineered, these take a long time and have to be full proof. At the moment the fastest computers we have are our brains, if you construct a sentance its instant, for example, I would say, "computing power has a limit", now it takes me no time at all to "compute" to build that sentance up from the impulses in my brain. This is essentially how I see computing becoming, it will get to a point (I am not talking about AI) where it is intelligent enough to process data in the same way we do. What I am trying to say, is that computing will get to a point where it has the same computing power of our brains (In terms of raw calculation, not intellect). This in a sense with the size and capability of our brains means that make a computer perform a complex calculation becomes instant in the sense that we can understand it to be instant, and something we cannot predict is where we will be in 500 years, we are evolving (growing smarter of course) a lot faster than ever before. If you look at the stuff our parents learnt and the look at the stuff we are learning, you will see how much more we are absorbing, even though it looks like a tiny amount. I remember one episode of "Enterprise" where the dude from the future told Cpt. Archer that he learnt how to communicate to people in the past in High School. Think about it, we can only really go two ways, we will never be stuck in one place and we seem to be moving forward and you can already see the results, i.e. the merging of different cultures.
I have always though moores law to be crap, I mean its just some marketing scan to force us to upgrade slowly... With quantum computers around the corner (10 - 100 years) we should be able to reach the limit, but the point is by that time, this research might have been proven wrong... Minge for example predicts that computing something will become instant, so in other words there is a limit on computing power! But at that point we won't need to go faster as it is instant already (in our sense of time), and hopefully too by then we won't be morons anymore either...
But still Linus says so! So it must be right!!! Even if he was proved wrong, he must still be right! Like Microsoft, they always say they are right, but they are always wrong. So what you are saying is Linus is probably wrong... But that would mean he is right? My head hurts now.....
Sure, it looks like it is not worth while, but you have to consider other things. Linux may be free of copyright infringments, but what happens if another SCO comes along and starts sueing developers, claiming that they have infringed on their copyrights to bloat their stock price?? I mean what are you as a developer (with no money?) going to do? I know I can't fight a lawsuit with even a small company like the SCO Group and would have no choice but to settle, unless of course being a UK citizen entitles me to state assistance?????
I think this kind of insurance, even as small as it is, is something we as developers all need to look at.
This is very true, don't forget that building nano structures is just like a form of programming. For example if I write a program to draw a line for me, that is the same concept. It is also very similar to gene manipulation. Once we learn how to program using atoms, it will open up things such as the ability to replicate *i.e generate* a substance. where as genetic programming allows us to manipulate behaviour. To make it very simple, if I was to create a nano bot that performs a specific task, it would be like writing a program and making it use a config file. In other words move the atoms into the correct places and use gene tech/ DNA/RNA to tell it how to work. Simple in concept but difficult in reality, so the only real risk are a new generation of script kiddies pumping out viruses! (Not that they will ever be clever enough to do that!!), or the other big risk and most programmers will agree, is the equivilent to a memory leak!!!
Crivens! Aye SCOO be getting a riight kicking from the judge don't ye ken? We have the laaw on ooour side! Aye that be it, the laaw is on ooour side, now that we ken that we can have lawyers on our side!! Hehe, we be making sco cry, "waily waily waily" anytime sooon!
Running windows?? Are they bloody mad? Then again, hehehehe methinks people like china could have fun with those -> picture this: Chinese American wargames, the chinese win by supriour virus restisant software, which the US ships are full of holes!
Seriously though, when ever I use windows, I feel like I have bought a boat with millions of holes and when they send me corks to close the holes, the corks have hundreds of little holes, thus making it impossible to stop my boat from sinking!
We get taxed for everything in this place, now they want to start taxing hobbies? They are bloody riduclous, they tax cigarettes, booze, road tax, petrol tax, council tax, death tax, what is there in this country that isn't taxed?
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Thats what I am doing!
I am already ugrading, this is by far the best distro I have used :) together with debian :-D
I wasn't talking about instant as in no time at all, I meant that instant being in our interpretation of how long something takes to process. The way software is written will change soon. If you look at Star Trek for example, take a couple of their scenarios, they do not write software, they get the computer to do it for them. This is essentially how interfaces and software will be engineered, these take a long time and have to be full proof. At the moment the fastest computers we have are our brains, if you construct a sentance its instant, for example, I would say, "computing power has a limit", now it takes me no time at all to "compute" to build that sentance up from the impulses in my brain. This is essentially how I see computing becoming, it will get to a point (I am not talking about AI) where it is intelligent enough to process data in the same way we do. What I am trying to say, is that computing will get to a point where it has the same computing power of our brains (In terms of raw calculation, not intellect). This in a sense with the size and capability of our brains means that make a computer perform a complex calculation becomes instant in the sense that we can understand it to be instant, and something we cannot predict is where we will be in 500 years, we are evolving (growing smarter of course) a lot faster than ever before. If you look at the stuff our parents learnt and the look at the stuff we are learning, you will see how much more we are absorbing, even though it looks like a tiny amount. I remember one episode of "Enterprise" where the dude from the future told Cpt. Archer that he learnt how to communicate to people in the past in High School. Think about it, we can only really go two ways, we will never be stuck in one place and we seem to be moving forward and you can already see the results, i.e. the merging of different cultures.
I have always though moores law to be crap, I mean its just some marketing scan to force us to upgrade slowly... With quantum computers around the corner (10 - 100 years) we should be able to reach the limit, but the point is by that time, this research might have been proven wrong... Minge for example predicts that computing something will become instant, so in other words there is a limit on computing power! But at that point we won't need to go faster as it is instant already (in our sense of time), and hopefully too by then we won't be morons anymore either...
Mod parent up to informative!! He is telling us where to get sci-fi porn!!!
Star Trek was a decent series, but I wouldn't be shocked if there wasn't already a porn trek! ;)
With more crap shows???
But still Linus says so! So it must be right!!! Even if he was proved wrong, he must still be right! Like Microsoft, they always say they are right, but they are always wrong. So what you are saying is Linus is probably wrong... But that would mean he is right? My head hurts now.....
Sure, it looks like it is not worth while, but you have to consider other things. Linux may be free of copyright infringments, but what happens if another SCO comes along and starts sueing developers, claiming that they have infringed on their copyrights to bloat their stock price?? I mean what are you as a developer (with no money?) going to do? I know I can't fight a lawsuit with even a small company like the SCO Group and would have no choice but to settle, unless of course being a UK citizen entitles me to state assistance????? I think this kind of insurance, even as small as it is, is something we as developers all need to look at.
Errr, so when do we start using threading - ooo hey look I threaded the kernel ;)
This is very true, don't forget that building nano structures is just like a form of programming. For example if I write a program to draw a line for me, that is the same concept. It is also very similar to gene manipulation. Once we learn how to program using atoms, it will open up things such as the ability to replicate *i.e generate* a substance. where as genetic programming allows us to manipulate behaviour. To make it very simple, if I was to create a nano bot that performs a specific task, it would be like writing a program and making it use a config file. In other words move the atoms into the correct places and use gene tech/ DNA/RNA to tell it how to work. Simple in concept but difficult in reality, so the only real risk are a new generation of script kiddies pumping out viruses! (Not that they will ever be clever enough to do that!!), or the other big risk and most programmers will agree, is the equivilent to a memory leak!!!
Yeah words never cease to linspire me, I mean seriously though this is a linspiration to us all ;)
I'm running Linux on punchcards, let those dang crackers have a go at that!
How can you mod the parent to this pos insightfull? Are the current moderators perverted bastards like the rest of us... OK bad point... Mod away!
I could spare a few cpu cycles during the day while I am at work and from about 1am till I get home from the office :-D
Yeah but what if I like purple?
That most people already talked chimp? *note to self get ears checked*
Does that mean we are not going to be fat anymore because we are eating healthy apples?
tcpdump for me and a few others I wrote myself :-D
Crivens! Aye SCOO be getting a riight kicking from the judge don't ye ken? We have the laaw on ooour side! Aye that be it, the laaw is on ooour side, now that we ken that we can have lawyers on our side!! Hehe, we be making sco cry, "waily waily waily" anytime sooon!
Running windows?? Are they bloody mad? Then again, hehehehe methinks people like china could have fun with those -> picture this: Chinese American wargames, the chinese win by supriour virus restisant software, which the US ships are full of holes! Seriously though, when ever I use windows, I feel like I have bought a boat with millions of holes and when they send me corks to close the holes, the corks have hundreds of little holes, thus making it impossible to stop my boat from sinking!
We get taxed for everything in this place, now they want to start taxing hobbies? They are bloody riduclous, they tax cigarettes, booze, road tax, petrol tax, council tax, death tax, what is there in this country that isn't taxed?
Crivens! I di'nae noo wee could have lawyers on our side! Aye if this be truue the SCOO laywers will be getting a right kickin' in nae time!
ends up in hundreds of millions of little creatures letting rip!! Oh the horror!!
Carefull they might get sued for infringing Microsoft trademarks!