The very first time I used linux was in the @Home days. Inside the box with the cable modem was a turbolinux install cd, it was the very first I had heard of linux. Tried installing it, but the installer locked up. There was some incompatibility with my motherboard.
A couple years later I was completely bored with windows, having to reinstall it every couple weeks(this was win98). Every few weeks the driver for my ide controller would fail leaving me cdromless. On top of that, I was trying to rip all my cds to my hard drive. I had three cdroms and was determined to have all of them going at the same time. I could never get all three to work for longer than ten minutes at a time. Between that, and massive gnutella downloads going at the same time my hard drive would become so horribly fragmented that I couldn't even view the contents of a directory.
In absolute boredom as I had no use for my computer running windows, I downloaded Mandrake(the first choice at linux.com). It installed in 10 minutes and detected all my hardware perfectly. Contrasting with windows, everytime I reinstalled I had to spend hours loading up drivers.
I was able to rip all my music in three days. After this was completed without incident I stared at my computer for about 4 weeks trying to figure out what to do. I had spent so many years just fixing Windows that I had no idea what to do with a computer that actually just worked.
I've never looked back, or missed any of the software that only runs on windows. Whenever friends and family ask me for advice, I just tell them I don't use windows anymore and don't know.
He's probably right. A dvd player is only as good as the cheap ass chips made somewhere in china...those merchants of outstanding quality they are. I remember watching the news one night, and they were showing some footage that was recorderd on standard digital cameras cause they couldn't get their own people there fast enough(they actually said this). I was blown away by the quality.
Gas engines are most fuel efficient for the amount of power put out at peak torque. Pushrod engines are generally tuned for low end torque since they are not as economical to run at high rpms. The lower peak torque allows them to be more fuel efficient for the amount of power they put out in normal driving, since normal accelleration is along the torque curve. Japanese OHC engines tend to have peak torque at higher RPMS, resulting in lower fuel economy for the amount of power generated in normal driving.
You can see this easly by comparing 2nd generation escorts(91-96) with a 1.9l OHC 4cyl vs the competion. The escort weighed more, had more torque(but at much lower rpms) but got better or equivelent MPG as the Japanese competition.
Pushrod engines tend to be easier to lubricate and allow for smaller size engine per the displacement(the reason for their introduction). OHC engines are cheaper for single cam engines and much cheaper for multicam engines. They also have cool sounding acronyms to give identity starved teenage ricers something to feel good about.
You obviously don't use elevators very much since they screw up all the time. And not only have I seen traffic lights go green in both directions several times, but here in Northern Virginia they are having a huge problems getting their new computer controlled traffic lights to work properly.
Medical equipment has a much longer development cycle and the same product can be sold for years without much changes after development....not to mention the much higher profit margins......
Not to mention the simplicity of comparing a traffic light or elevator to a car.
ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS.ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS.
CARS ARE MUCH MORE COMPLICATED and NEED TO BE REDESIGNED EVERY THREE YEARS.
Yes, I know I'm an rude asshole, you don't need to tell me so.
Does using proper english in "conversations" on the internet make you feel sophisticated? Do you not get the opportunity to make feel smart comments in real life?
Your entire post pretty much explains in great detail my point, it's impossible to know the effects of the past 50+ years are going to have. So could we just please play it on the safe side when we have the oppourtunity??? We were talking about switching to known safer fire retartants from fire retartands that have been shown to potentially cause problems.
It sounds like your making a lot of money off of something that is probably proven to harm the environment, I hope that makes you feel good and smart. We need all the stupid smiling faces in this country you can get.
Waters been around since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure it's safe now in normal quantities. The past 100 years has led to the development of millions of chemicals that are combining in ways science has no means to study, producing exponential numbers of new chemicals. You think this is safe?? I wonder, do we spend more resources developing new chemicals or more studying the effects? I'm not even gonna bother to look it up, the answer is magnitudes more resources toward developing new chemicals. It's easy to say chemicals doing possibly all kinds of other neat stuff with their friends in our bodies when no ones studying the fact. Even easier when all this is happening in just a few decades, it's impossible to tell what the effects of chemicals introduced in the 70's will have on those who grew up with them their whole life.
Yet you want to argue that it's safe to ingest and let chemicals run rampant creating god only knows what kinds hazards on the basis that only god knows whats going to become of this? Is it too much to ask to play it on the safe side? It's not just your backyard your fucking up. Whats your address? I want to dump my old coolant in your front yard, it should be alright since small amounts of antifreeze are perfectly fine for even small children to injest.
Just because a company is ready to patent something doesn't mean they're ready to produce something right away. Reducing the amount of time a patent is good for reduces the value so companies won't bother with R&D nearly as much. Patents need to be given out on a stricter basis.
I've never had to recompile the kernel, although I have plenty of times for performance reasons. I can reinstall my entire os and every app I use in less than a 30 minutes, without losing ANY of my settings just as easily as doing a fresh install. I can even have it update the os to a new version in the background while using my system as normal, either downloading automatically from the internet or doing it off of a dvd/cd, network share, iso image, whatever! All i have to do then is reboot when I see fit to take advantage of the new kernel.
Good point about software, it's next to impossible to write commercial linux software. Not to mention they need to be recompiled every year otherwise they won't run on a new distro.
I hope your not serious about applying for a job at a grocery store in a suit. Dress as close as you would be dressing for work there, maybe a little bit nicer but not much. Or really with your attitude you should be looking for an internship at an office somewhere. Why screw around with a grocery store? They're used to dealing with people that apply for the job in sweat pants and count money like it's a skill.
I love how you can tilt windows and make everything unreadable! And a timer, that's what I always wanted to do with my computer! Parental controls to keep my children away from solitare!
There is a driver available for linux that'll let you write to NTFS. I can't remember who makes it but it's not free and different from the read only one usually included in your post. I do agree with everything else you said, NTFS is crap.
They don't have too. For civil suits, the plaintiff needs some kind of proof to show the court that they served you papers. The easiest way to do that is to pay the sheriff to do it for you. For criminal cases all they have to do is issue a warrant and arrest you for it sometime.
Jesus christ, printing in Gnome is absolutely horrible.
You know what, I happen to have better things to do than sit there with a bunch of open printing dialogs plugging printers in and unplugging them. For christ fucking sake that has to be the most retarded priority on the planet. Me, like most other users, leave their FUCKING PRINTERS PLUGGED IN!
Now, on the other hand, how about a useful featuer? For example, having an option other than printing a document now or next week??? I don't know, sometimes I'd like to set the margins myself. Or use something other than a predetermined paper size like an envolope. You know useful features. I can't possible think of the avg. user needing to print something out a week for now.
Now if KDE is wasn't so ugly, or I used a desktop enviorment for something other than launching programs and displaying the time, I sure as hell wouldn't be using Gnome.
I was thinking of grade schools, I just got out of high school a few years ago and all my teachers used the ohp for most everything. Universities have a lot more money for that kind of stuff, and a lot more varied materials . A high school can't afford 5000 for a laptop, projector, installation for each classroom. Not to mention the extra work load on support staff. I did take a couple classes at a community college here, and most of the classrooms have projectors. The only teachers that really used them though were the computer teachers so we could see their screen.
I've didn't know that had that kind of projector, that makes a lot of sense. I wasn't really arguing with you, for all I knew you could have been sarcastic:). Japan has had few computer companies but I don't think any of them were really all that successfull outside of nec. Europe had plenty for a while, and they still have a few big ones but I can't tell you about the who's who in that market either. I seriously doubt dell, hp and others design much of anything(if anything) as far as basic desktops. I'm under the impression that most laptops are completely designed by other companies too like acer. If anyone's driving general purpose computing it's the japanese and europeans. DVD players, lcd's, plasmas, etc are all mostly being developed by European and Japanese companies. Dell and HP are content to simply slap their brand names on this stuff as soon as these companies will let them.
But I don't even really consider that driving the tech industry, these are really mild improvements in the big scheme of things. New monitors, bigger capacity drives are not really new innovations. We need new input devices and ways to connect computers to other things like tvs, and applications freely available to do all kinds of cool things. I want caller id displayed on my tv when someone calls. I want to be able to use the built in microphone and speakers on my laptop as a phone without having to think about it. Instead they make media centers, as if a desktop could really be the centerpiece of a living room right next to the tv. And who on earth other than a geek is gonna sit there and copy all their music and dvds to a computer? I'm sure there is a market for your calculator, it's just that HP doesn't want to be bothered with things that are low volume. With todays tech they could design one basi PCB and just change the buttons around for all the different types. But that requires capable management. These companies have no clue what they're doing, all they can sell is the absolute cheapest stuff they make. Why? Because no one has cared about computers for a long time, they just buy a new one when their old one "breaks".
I've bought several IBM and Compaq scsi's off of ebay, and never had any problems running them on my COTS system with an Adapte 2940UW controller. Most of them are the 1.5" variety too. Have I just not run into the oddball ones, or is it only a problem with putting standard scsi's into these systems? I know that the mounting brackets for the hotswap stuff is all proprietary and way overpriced.
[Rant] Now this is a flawed argument but I'm sure it's exactly how the idiots running these computer companies think. A SVGA projector can never replace an overhead projector in education because it they're much more difficult to use for teaching compared to just writing directly on an overhead projector. Now I'm sure that they are the defacto standard for businesses and their pretty power points, but it'll be a long time before even half the classrooms in the country have one. While some schools in more affluent areas are putting them in every classroom, I'll bet most of them are just expensive toys that sit idle while the teachers continue on they way the have prior.
On the otherhand, a laptop like one of those previously mention could garner a lot more sales because of ease of use and all the other things it could do. The teacher can bring the laptop around to students desks to help them a little bit when they need it, for example. The school dosen't have to waste all the money hooking up the projectors that'll sit idle 90% of the time to the teachers desk(which is money the computer companies will never see).
Thinking like this is why Dell, HP, Gateway, etc can only possibly sell computers by making them as cheap as humanly possible. They have absolutely no clue how to make people want to spend more money other than by Microsoft making their software ridiculously inefficient. Well that and old computers filling up with spyware. And the idiots at Best Buy lying to customers. All very sound business models indeed. I really miss the days when going into a computer store meant seeing a computer doing something they couldn't do a couple years ago. Now all I see is that they're finally comming up with cases that aren't completely butt ugly.
Zenith sortof had a laptop like that, long long ago so that you could use it to display on an overhead projector. I really wish they would make laptops with removeable screens like that again, it'd be so cool.
Yeah, kind of like how all the big networks showing video clips of rockets going off in Afghanistan, 2 hours after the WTC was hit! And people seem to think this war wasn't rigged. While CNN and MSNBC were showing those clips, the BBC was explaining that they were not live feeds and that they weren't even depicting the right time of day. They were also reading press releases from the Pentagon saying that they had not taken any actions whatsoever.
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i like this idea. i'm sick of all these stupid traffic laws
The very first time I used linux was in the @Home days. Inside the box with the cable modem was a turbolinux install cd, it was the very first I had heard of linux. Tried installing it, but the installer locked up. There was some incompatibility with my motherboard.
A couple years later I was completely bored with windows, having to reinstall it every couple weeks(this was win98). Every few weeks the driver for my ide controller would fail leaving me cdromless. On top of that, I was trying to rip all my cds to my hard drive. I had three cdroms and was determined to have all of them going at the same time. I could never get all three to work for longer than ten minutes at a time. Between that, and massive gnutella downloads going at the same time my hard drive would become so horribly fragmented that I couldn't even view the contents of a directory.
In absolute boredom as I had no use for my computer running windows, I downloaded Mandrake(the first choice at linux.com). It installed in 10 minutes and detected all my hardware perfectly. Contrasting with windows, everytime I reinstalled I had to spend hours loading up drivers.
I was able to rip all my music in three days. After this was completed without incident I stared at my computer for about 4 weeks trying to figure out what to do. I had spent so many years just fixing Windows that I had no idea what to do with a computer that actually just worked.
I've never looked back, or missed any of the software that only runs on windows. Whenever friends and family ask me for advice, I just tell them I don't use windows anymore and don't know.
He's probably right. A dvd player is only as good as the cheap ass chips made somewhere in china...those merchants of outstanding quality they are. I remember watching the news one night, and they were showing some footage that was recorderd on standard digital cameras cause they couldn't get their own people there fast enough(they actually said this). I was blown away by the quality.
Gas engines are most fuel efficient for the amount of power put out at peak torque. Pushrod engines are generally tuned for low end torque since they are not as economical to run at high rpms. The lower peak torque allows them to be more fuel efficient for the amount of power they put out in normal driving, since normal accelleration is along the torque curve. Japanese OHC engines tend to have peak torque at higher RPMS, resulting in lower fuel economy for the amount of power generated in normal driving.
You can see this easly by comparing 2nd generation escorts(91-96) with a 1.9l OHC 4cyl vs the competion. The escort weighed more, had more torque(but at much lower rpms) but got better or equivelent MPG as the Japanese competition.
Pushrod engines tend to be easier to lubricate and allow for smaller size engine per the displacement(the reason for their introduction). OHC engines are cheaper for single cam engines and much cheaper for multicam engines. They also have cool sounding acronyms to give identity starved teenage ricers something to feel good about.
You obviously don't use elevators very much since they screw up all the time. And not only have I seen traffic lights go green in both directions several times, but here in Northern Virginia they are having a huge problems getting their new computer controlled traffic lights to work properly.
Medical equipment has a much longer development cycle and the same product can be sold for years without much changes after development....not to mention the much higher profit margins......
Not to mention the simplicity of comparing a traffic light or elevator to a car.
ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS.ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS. ELEVATORS GO UP AND DOWN DUMBASS.
CARS ARE MUCH MORE COMPLICATED and NEED TO BE REDESIGNED EVERY THREE YEARS.
Yes, I know I'm an rude asshole, you don't need to tell me so.
Does using proper english in "conversations" on the internet make you feel sophisticated? Do you not get the opportunity to make feel smart comments in real life?
Your entire post pretty much explains in great detail my point, it's impossible to know the effects of the past 50+ years are going to have. So could we just please play it on the safe side when we have the oppourtunity??? We were talking about switching to known safer fire retartants from fire retartands that have been shown to potentially cause problems.
It sounds like your making a lot of money off of something that is probably proven to harm the environment, I hope that makes you feel good and smart. We need all the stupid smiling faces in this country you can get.
Waters been around since the beginning of time, I'm pretty sure it's safe now in normal quantities. The past 100 years has led to the development of millions of chemicals that are combining in ways science has no means to study, producing exponential numbers of new chemicals. You think this is safe?? I wonder, do we spend more resources developing new chemicals or more studying the effects? I'm not even gonna bother to look it up, the answer is magnitudes more resources toward developing new chemicals. It's easy to say chemicals doing possibly all kinds of other neat stuff with their friends in our bodies when no ones studying the fact. Even easier when all this is happening in just a few decades, it's impossible to tell what the effects of chemicals introduced in the 70's will have on those who grew up with them their whole life.
Yet you want to argue that it's safe to ingest and let chemicals run rampant creating god only knows what kinds hazards on the basis that only god knows whats going to become of this? Is it too much to ask to play it on the safe side? It's not just your backyard your fucking up. Whats your address? I want to dump my old coolant in your front yard, it should be alright since small amounts of antifreeze are perfectly fine for even small children to injest.
Just because a company is ready to patent something doesn't mean they're ready to produce something right away. Reducing the amount of time a patent is good for reduces the value so companies won't bother with R&D nearly as much. Patents need to be given out on a stricter basis.
I'm sure it was paid back with a highly absurd interest rate from all the sales and income tax on wireless equipment.
I've never had to recompile the kernel, although I have plenty of times for performance reasons. I can reinstall my entire os and every app I use in less than a 30 minutes, without losing ANY of my settings just as easily as doing a fresh install. I can even have it update the os to a new version in the background while using my system as normal, either downloading automatically from the internet or doing it off of a dvd/cd, network share, iso image, whatever! All i have to do then is reboot when I see fit to take advantage of the new kernel.
Good point about software, it's next to impossible to write commercial linux software. Not to mention they need to be recompiled every year otherwise they won't run on a new distro.
I hope your not serious about applying for a job at a grocery store in a suit. Dress as close as you would be dressing for work there, maybe a little bit nicer but not much. Or really with your attitude you should be looking for an internship at an office somewhere. Why screw around with a grocery store? They're used to dealing with people that apply for the job in sweat pants and count money like it's a skill.
I love how you can tilt windows and make everything unreadable! And a timer, that's what I always wanted to do with my computer! Parental controls to keep my children away from solitare!
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I hope to god your kidding.
There is a driver available for linux that'll let you write to NTFS. I can't remember who makes it but it's not free and different from the read only one usually included in your post. I do agree with everything else you said, NTFS is crap.
Of course they don't wanna pay you overtime. the sooner the computers come back on the sooner they have to go back to work.
It's only free until the end of this year, then it'll be $49.
They don't have too. For civil suits, the plaintiff needs some kind of proof to show the court that they served you papers. The easiest way to do that is to pay the sheriff to do it for you. For criminal cases all they have to do is issue a warrant and arrest you for it sometime.
Marijuana related means revolving around the drug trade shit head.
Marijuana on it's own has been proven to make people less prone to violence.
But just keep believing everything people tell you, that's what intelligent people do.
Jesus christ, printing in Gnome is absolutely horrible.
You know what, I happen to have better things to do than sit there with a bunch of open printing dialogs plugging printers in and unplugging them. For christ fucking sake that has to be the most retarded priority on the planet. Me, like most other users, leave their FUCKING PRINTERS PLUGGED IN!
Now, on the other hand, how about a useful featuer? For example, having an option other than printing a document now or next week??? I don't know, sometimes I'd like to set the margins myself. Or use something other than a predetermined paper size like an envolope. You know useful features. I can't possible think of the avg. user needing to print something out a week for now.
Now if KDE is wasn't so ugly, or I used a desktop enviorment for something other than launching programs and displaying the time, I sure as hell wouldn't be using Gnome.
I was thinking of grade schools, I just got out of high school a few years ago and all my teachers used the ohp for most everything. Universities have a lot more money for that kind of stuff, and a lot more varied materials . A high school can't afford 5000 for a laptop, projector, installation for each classroom. Not to mention the extra work load on support staff. I did take a couple classes at a community college here, and most of the classrooms have projectors. The only teachers that really used them though were the computer teachers so we could see their screen.
I've didn't know that had that kind of projector, that makes a lot of sense. I wasn't really arguing with you, for all I knew you could have been sarcastic :). Japan has had few computer companies but I don't think any of them were really all that successfull outside of nec. Europe had plenty for a while, and they still have a few big ones but I can't tell you about the who's who in that market either. I seriously doubt dell, hp and others design much of anything(if anything) as far as basic desktops. I'm under the impression that most laptops are completely designed by other companies too like acer. If anyone's driving general purpose computing it's the japanese and europeans. DVD players, lcd's, plasmas, etc are all mostly being developed by European and Japanese companies. Dell and HP are content to simply slap their brand names on this stuff as soon as these companies will let them.
But I don't even really consider that driving the tech industry, these are really mild improvements in the big scheme of things. New monitors, bigger capacity drives are not really new innovations. We need new input devices and ways to connect computers to other things like tvs, and applications freely available to do all kinds of cool things. I want caller id displayed on my tv when someone calls. I want to be able to use the built in microphone and speakers on my laptop as a phone without having to think about it. Instead they make media centers, as if a desktop could really be the centerpiece of a living room right next to the tv. And who on earth other than a geek is gonna sit there and copy all their music and dvds to a computer? I'm sure there is a market for your calculator, it's just that HP doesn't want to be bothered with things that are low volume. With todays tech they could design one basi PCB and just change the buttons around for all the different types. But that requires capable management. These companies have no clue what they're doing, all they can sell is the absolute cheapest stuff they make. Why? Because no one has cared about computers for a long time, they just buy a new one when their old one "breaks".
I've bought several IBM and Compaq scsi's off of ebay, and never had any problems running them on my COTS system with an Adapte 2940UW controller. Most of them are the 1.5" variety too. Have I just not run into the oddball ones, or is it only a problem with putting standard scsi's into these systems? I know that the mounting brackets for the hotswap stuff is all proprietary and way overpriced.
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Now this is a flawed argument but I'm sure it's exactly how the idiots running these computer companies think. A SVGA projector can never replace an overhead projector in education because it they're much more difficult to use for teaching compared to just writing directly on an overhead projector. Now I'm sure that they are the defacto standard for businesses and their pretty power points, but it'll be a long time before even half the classrooms in the country have one. While some schools in more affluent areas are putting them in every classroom, I'll bet most of them are just expensive toys that sit idle while the teachers continue on they way the have prior.
On the otherhand, a laptop like one of those previously mention could garner a lot more sales because of ease of use and all the other things it could do. The teacher can bring the laptop around to students desks to help them a little bit when they need it, for example. The school dosen't have to waste all the money hooking up the projectors that'll sit idle 90% of the time to the teachers desk(which is money the computer companies will never see).
Thinking like this is why Dell, HP, Gateway, etc can only possibly sell computers by making them as cheap as humanly possible. They have absolutely no clue how to make people want to spend more money other than by Microsoft making their software ridiculously inefficient. Well that and old computers filling up with spyware. And the idiots at Best Buy lying to customers. All very sound business models indeed. I really miss the days when going into a computer store meant seeing a computer doing something they couldn't do a couple years ago. Now all I see is that they're finally comming up with cases that aren't completely butt ugly.
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Zenith sortof had a laptop like that, long long ago so that you could use it to display on an overhead projector. I really wish they would make laptops with removeable screens like that again, it'd be so cool.
Yeah, kind of like how all the big networks showing video clips of rockets going off in Afghanistan, 2 hours after the WTC was hit! And people seem to think this war wasn't rigged. While CNN and MSNBC were showing those clips, the BBC was explaining that they were not live feeds and that they weren't even depicting the right time of day. They were also reading press releases from the Pentagon saying that they had not taken any actions whatsoever.