IIRC, XP worked like this as well. Has anybody actually tried to install with the XP CD in the CD drive? Don't most machines have two opty drives anyway?
Easy is not an absolute word, it can only be used in a relative sense.
It's easy for me to build a computer. It is NOT easy for my father to build one.
I fully expect to get modded into oblivian for this, however;
There are many arguements below that make the case that you have the RIGHT to buy music without restriction and that the music companies MUST sell it that way. My questions is, why? They own the rights to the product, they have the right to dictate how they want to sell it. The only real right you have is to NOT buy it.
If you want the laws changed to that you have the explicit RIGHT to platform shift, get the law changed. Like it or not, according to the DCMA, there are cases where you don't have that right.
If you want music that is unencumbered by DRM, buy it from somewhere that sells it that way. Buy CDs that don't have copy protection, if you stumble on one that does, return it as defective.
Fortunately, if you use a credit card for the purchase, you're good to go. "What's that Mr. Sithlord, that DVD doesn't seem to function properly and (insert big-box retailer here) won't issue a refund for the 24.99 plus tax? No problem at all Mr. Sithlord, you should see that credit appear online within a day or two. Thank you for calling (V, MC, AX, DS, DC) have a great day".
This is what I'm betting Apple is seeing.
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Envision this if you will:
Mac dealers (not apple store, but indies) will soon start offering Dual boot systems for sale, I'll bet. This is great you say, windows users can now get the elegance of Mac hardware. Billy G is probably saying that very thing right now. He's probably thinking that this situation opens up a whole new install base, just as Bill H states below. So a Mac user goes into an indie dealer and says," You mean that I can buy this Mac Mini with Windows for only $599.99? (that's $499.99 for the Mini and $99.00 for the XP home OEM)? I'll take it." Great, there's another Windows bootable sold.
However, look at it from Jobs' view. Sure, I'll bet lots of Windows users will start using Mac systems. Problem is, they're going to see that tiger icon EVERYTIME THEY BOOT THE SYSTEM. Sooner or later, they'll get curious.
They're going to click on it.
Some will use it.
Some won't look back.
Let's say that the user above was a Windows user that just wanted the sexy SFF box. They try using Tiger and decide that they like it better. The next Mac Mini they buy will only cost them $499.99 ($499.99 for the mini and $0.00 for the Windows XP they decided they didn't need.) Uh-oh, there's a lost bootable sale. Uh-oh, there's lots of lost bootable sales since the useful life of any computer is only a few years.
We all know that for whatever reason, current Mac users are fanatics. We also know that every single current Mac user has a job, or a friend or a family member with a Windows PC. They've seen Windows. They won't be the ones switching over. I haven't seen Tiger yet. I expect that neither have people like my dad and most of my co-workers. I've heard that Tiger is easier to use. What happens when people that previously had no choice, suddenly do?
IIRC, new OSes often have a huge impact on new PC sales. With the cost of new PCs constantly dropping, they are pretty much in hte realm of a gift now.
I agree. I would love a library that has floor to ceiling bookshelves and very minimal furniture. I'm thinking two big leather chairs with a light in between them. Nice big oriental rug on the floor. Shelves lined with books and the cool little things you pick up while traveling. No computers. No radios. I real, honest-to-god library like you see in some of the historical homes in old cities.
That statement would imply that they once had an 80% market share in Japan. It seems that the article is suggesting that the market share in increasing.
No, I would not. How many thousands of Americans have already died so that we HAVE these right to begin with? Are you suggesting the 500 are more important than those thousands?
This may get modded offtopic, but here goes anyway...
I actually don't find gift cards to be all that impersonal. If you know what your friends/family are into a gift card can be very personal. For example, my sister's boyfriend is into motorcycles. I know nothing about bikes or what he might need for his bike. Also, a bike is very personal, so those hot pink suede saddle bags that I like just might not work for him. So a gift cert to a Harley dealer is ideal. I also just had a birthday. One of my coworkers gave me a steel bookmark with a gift cert to a bookstore. I thought that was very thoughtful, she know I like to read but not what I have and don't.
I have been considering getting a Nano because of all the articles I see about beaing the sh*t out of them. I've also read the reviews in which people complain about the scratchability of the Nano. Don't care. If I really can toss it in my pocket with my keys and change or in the center console of my car, that's what I want. If it falls out and still works, that's what I want.
My Creative Zen has some scratches and dings on it and they don't concern me in the least. What does concern me, is the fact that it survived getting the scratches and dings and still works flawlessly.
I want to get a small in size and (relatively) big (in capacity) MP3 player that I can use only for Audible.com audio books. I want to have a seperate player for these because it's kinda funny to listen to one that has both music and speech on random. The first couple times it happens. Then it sucks. Imagine driving along rocking out with the Doors and then getting chapter 7 of the DaVinci Code.
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It could have been, if the RIAA lawyers had said "OK here's you check." But they instead they said "Nope, that's too much."
IIRC, XP worked like this as well. Has anybody actually tried to install with the XP CD in the CD drive? Don't most machines have two opty drives anyway?
Easy is not an absolute word, it can only be used in a relative sense. It's easy for me to build a computer. It is NOT easy for my father to build one.
If you are building your own PC from a pile of parts, you would purchase the OEM product.
I would try it.
I fully expect to get modded into oblivian for this, however;
There are many arguements below that make the case that you have the RIGHT to buy music without restriction and that the music companies MUST sell it that way. My questions is, why? They own the rights to the product, they have the right to dictate how they want to sell it. The only real right you have is to NOT buy it.
If you want the laws changed to that you have the explicit RIGHT to platform shift, get the law changed. Like it or not, according to the DCMA, there are cases where you don't have that right.
If you want music that is unencumbered by DRM, buy it from somewhere that sells it that way. Buy CDs that don't have copy protection, if you stumble on one that does, return it as defective.
Fortunately, if you use a credit card for the purchase, you're good to go. "What's that Mr. Sithlord, that DVD doesn't seem to function properly and (insert big-box retailer here) won't issue a refund for the 24.99 plus tax? No problem at all Mr. Sithlord, you should see that credit appear online within a day or two. Thank you for calling (V, MC, AX, DS, DC) have a great day".
Not a chance. I'd expect that if RC2 has this, it's already broken. The gold code will be cracked within a day or two.
... that one of the guys quoted says he installed it on a Mac with Bootcamp. Running a beta OS with a beta boot manager?
With the bat...
Just off the top of my head...
Banks, many Utility companies, schools / universities,
anyone you want to get a loan from
Gurk.
"Apology Accepted."
Volume licences for Windows are upgrades only. There is no volume licenses for the full versions.
It won't be naked. It will have OSX on it.
Envision this if you will:
Mac dealers (not apple store, but indies) will soon start offering Dual boot systems for sale, I'll bet. This is great you say, windows users can now get the elegance of Mac hardware. Billy G is probably saying that very thing right now. He's probably thinking that this situation opens up a whole new install base, just as Bill H states below. So a Mac user goes into an indie dealer and says," You mean that I can buy this Mac Mini with Windows for only $599.99? (that's $499.99 for the Mini and $99.00 for the XP home OEM)? I'll take it." Great, there's another Windows bootable sold.
However, look at it from Jobs' view. Sure, I'll bet lots of Windows users will start using Mac systems. Problem is, they're going to see that tiger icon EVERYTIME THEY BOOT THE SYSTEM. Sooner or later, they'll get curious.
They're going to click on it.
Some will use it.
Some won't look back.
Let's say that the user above was a Windows user that just wanted the sexy SFF box. They try using Tiger and decide that they like it better. The next Mac Mini they buy will only cost them $499.99 ($499.99 for the mini and $0.00 for the Windows XP they decided they didn't need.) Uh-oh, there's a lost bootable sale. Uh-oh, there's lots of lost bootable sales since the useful life of any computer is only a few years.
We all know that for whatever reason, current Mac users are fanatics. We also know that every single current Mac user has a job, or a friend or a family member with a Windows PC. They've seen Windows. They won't be the ones switching over. I haven't seen Tiger yet. I expect that neither have people like my dad and most of my co-workers. I've heard that Tiger is easier to use. What happens when people that previously had no choice, suddenly do?
I think Apple is betting that this happens.
Someone jumped that bike off a high drop in the T2 scene. That stunt was performed by a trained professional on a real bike.
IIRC, new OSes often have a huge impact on new PC sales. With the cost of new PCs constantly dropping, they are pretty much in hte realm of a gift now.
I agree. I would love a library that has floor to ceiling bookshelves and very minimal furniture. I'm thinking two big leather chairs with a light in between them. Nice big oriental rug on the floor. Shelves lined with books and the cool little things you pick up while traveling. No computers. No radios. I real, honest-to-god library like you see in some of the historical homes in old cities.
"I will not eat things for money."
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That statement would imply that they once had an 80% market share in Japan. It seems that the article is suggesting that the market share in increasing.
Modded funny, probably true though.
No, I would not. How many thousands of Americans have already died so that we HAVE these right to begin with? Are you suggesting the 500 are more important than those thousands?
This may get modded offtopic, but here goes anyway...
I actually don't find gift cards to be all that impersonal. If you know what your friends/family are into a gift card can be very personal. For example, my sister's boyfriend is into motorcycles. I know nothing about bikes or what he might need for his bike. Also, a bike is very personal, so those hot pink suede saddle bags that I like just might not work for him. So a gift cert to a Harley dealer is ideal. I also just had a birthday. One of my coworkers gave me a steel bookmark with a gift cert to a bookstore. I thought that was very thoughtful, she know I like to read but not what I have and don't.
I have been considering getting a Nano because of all the articles I see about beaing the sh*t out of them. I've also read the reviews in which people complain about the scratchability of the Nano. Don't care. If I really can toss it in my pocket with my keys and change or in the center console of my car, that's what I want. If it falls out and still works, that's what I want.
My Creative Zen has some scratches and dings on it and they don't concern me in the least. What does concern me, is the fact that it survived getting the scratches and dings and still works flawlessly.
I want to get a small in size and (relatively) big (in capacity) MP3 player that I can use only for Audible.com audio books. I want to have a seperate player for these because it's kinda funny to listen to one that has both music and speech on random. The first couple times it happens. Then it sucks. Imagine driving along rocking out with the Doors and then getting chapter 7 of the DaVinci Code.