Either you misunderstand me, or you misunderstand the law, at least in the US.
You can certainly sell your copy, or give it away, or burn it, or worship it like a god made flesh (or plastic). What you can't do is distribute independent copies, and keep the source copy yourself.
Other countries, YMMV.
(Note, I obviously didn't cover every case, but rhetorically torturing my statements doesn't win any points. For instance, talking about making 50 copies and distributing them all, keeping nothing, doesn't sidestep US law. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.)
I've generally understood intellectual property to mean a concept, idea, or other abstract product of intelligent creativity, which is protected by law. There are several laws surrounding the expression, depending on its form and use, and they certainly cause confusion for people who deal in such products, but overall, things can be summed up in one simple rule: if you didn't make it, and no one explicitly told you that you own it, then you don't own it. Easy enough.
Arguing about the semantics of the word property is a void intellection exercise. Mental masturbation, if you will, likely pleasurable for the engagee, but totally non-productive.
I may as well go all the way.
I believe the copyright system is serving its purpose. Sure, it's ripe for abuse, and there are indeed people and organizations that abuse it, but overall it fosters a system of rewards that have made creativity blossom. Importantly, no worthwhile successor has ever been proposed.
I believe the same for the patent system, but to a lesser extent - I feel patents should be restricted to ideas that ultimately express in a physical way. Patenting a pure, abstract idea serves no one but the greedy.
Trademarks... ain't nothing wrong with them. I think they are unfairly lumped in by "intellectual property" opponents who figure additional targets will strengthen their case.
Ultimately, everything will shake out in a mutually acceptable way, because that's just how things work. You can't dictate to a free market.
It's not a matter of belief - the global economy is a closed system. It's essentially an axiom.
I'm not telling you that the money you've personally invested will come back to *you* specifically, just that the government isn't some financial blackhole where money goes to die. It all comes back out, and it all continues to get spent on other things. That's how the economy works.
I'm simply mentioning this as a fact: Microsoft Windows is, by far, the dominant desktop operating system, which means they can kill flash without doing a thing for any other platform.
All of that money cycles back through the global economy, so yes, eventually it's all returned. It may take an incredibly circuitous route, however, so there's no guarantee on time.
(This applies in the US. It may apply elsewhere. I have no idea.)
You own the copy. Sure. Do what you want with it - but don't distribute it, because that right is explicitly reserved for the copyright holder. That part of copyright law is not nebulous in any way.
Well, I am too. I base it only on your attitude, however, not on the impressive (or not, I haven't checked) length of your posting history.
So here it is: you are a cock-gaped, winking, bleeding asshole. Just because you think you know what's best for everyone else doesn't mean you stand anywhere but alone.
The whole upward sweeping curve gives the impression that it has something to do with the story above it, which of course isn't true. Not really good design from a user perspective. This is what happens when you focus on 'pretty' and forget to deal with 'works.'
Does anyone else figure those PSP commercials are Sony's way of targeting the retarded market? I've seen some terrible ads before, but these manage to make me want to not buy the product.
I'm not saying anything about the language, just the code I've seen written. It's the price of being immensely popular - you get a lot of slackers who can't code worth shit.
So basically, I agree with you, and still hold my opinion.
I worked with a guy like you. He kept reformatting everyone's code to his preference, insisting that it was somehow more correct. The only thing he succeeded in doing was fucking up the repository diffs. We fired him, obviously, but what I really wanted to do was give him a blanket party for making our job so difficult.
Would you like me to mail you a bottle of viagra and the pornographic magazine of your choice? Modern science has declared you don't have to slink limply into the good night.
You PHP trolls are so cute, with your crappy code full of security holes, barely performant under load even though you run on a blazing fast interpreter. Keep playing with your training wheels, and stay away from us big boys on our Harleys, please.
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Maybe so, but given your .sig, can we really trust your judgement regarding humor?
Sorry you caught some stupid mods. I got the joke, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Either you misunderstand me, or you misunderstand the law, at least in the US.
You can certainly sell your copy, or give it away, or burn it, or worship it like a god made flesh (or plastic). What you can't do is distribute independent copies, and keep the source copy yourself.
Other countries, YMMV.
(Note, I obviously didn't cover every case, but rhetorically torturing my statements doesn't win any points. For instance, talking about making 50 copies and distributing them all, keeping nothing, doesn't sidestep US law. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.)
I've generally understood intellectual property to mean a concept, idea, or other abstract product of intelligent creativity, which is protected by law. There are several laws surrounding the expression, depending on its form and use, and they certainly cause confusion for people who deal in such products, but overall, things can be summed up in one simple rule: if you didn't make it, and no one explicitly told you that you own it, then you don't own it. Easy enough.
Arguing about the semantics of the word property is a void intellection exercise. Mental masturbation, if you will, likely pleasurable for the engagee, but totally non-productive.
I may as well go all the way.
I believe the copyright system is serving its purpose. Sure, it's ripe for abuse, and there are indeed people and organizations that abuse it, but overall it fosters a system of rewards that have made creativity blossom. Importantly, no worthwhile successor has ever been proposed.
I believe the same for the patent system, but to a lesser extent - I feel patents should be restricted to ideas that ultimately express in a physical way. Patenting a pure, abstract idea serves no one but the greedy.
Trademarks... ain't nothing wrong with them. I think they are unfairly lumped in by "intellectual property" opponents who figure additional targets will strengthen their case.
Ultimately, everything will shake out in a mutually acceptable way, because that's just how things work. You can't dictate to a free market.
It can't make new users run in fear. That's still the domain of Unixish systems.
It's a joke. Mod down appropriately - I recommend -1, Violates Groupthink
Then they could afford to hire someone to teach them to spell!
It's not a matter of belief - the global economy is a closed system. It's essentially an axiom.
I'm not telling you that the money you've personally invested will come back to *you* specifically, just that the government isn't some financial blackhole where money goes to die. It all comes back out, and it all continues to get spent on other things. That's how the economy works.
Flamebait? Someone gets a little emotional over their OS, huh?
I'm simply mentioning this as a fact: Microsoft Windows is, by far, the dominant desktop operating system, which means they can kill flash without doing a thing for any other platform.
All of that money cycles back through the global economy, so yes, eventually it's all returned. It may take an incredibly circuitous route, however, so there's no guarantee on time.
The word 'oxymoronic' does not mean what you want it to mean.
Incidentally, intellectual property seems to capture the essence of the concept, at least to me. What is your objection?
(This applies in the US. It may apply elsewhere. I have no idea.)
You own the copy. Sure. Do what you want with it - but don't distribute it, because that right is explicitly reserved for the copyright holder. That part of copyright law is not nebulous in any way.
Does this logic allow all Republicans to pirate F9/11?
Do any of them actually want to see it?
Well, I am too. I base it only on your attitude, however, not on the impressive (or not, I haven't checked) length of your posting history.
So here it is: you are a cock-gaped, winking, bleeding asshole. Just because you think you know what's best for everyone else doesn't mean you stand anywhere but alone.
100 years ago, you didn't exist. The history of your country is meaningless.
The whole upward sweeping curve gives the impression that it has something to do with the story above it, which of course isn't true. Not really good design from a user perspective. This is what happens when you focus on 'pretty' and forget to deal with 'works.'
This slides neatly offtopic.
Does anyone else figure those PSP commercials are Sony's way of targeting the retarded market? I've seen some terrible ads before, but these manage to make me want to not buy the product.
I'd much rather watch while you strike that first match, then claim you had to burn the village in order to save it.
See? You don't have a monopoly on being uselessly pseudo-witty.
I'm not saying anything about the language, just the code I've seen written. It's the price of being immensely popular - you get a lot of slackers who can't code worth shit.
So basically, I agree with you, and still hold my opinion.
I moved the braces to be in their logical places
I worked with a guy like you. He kept reformatting everyone's code to his preference, insisting that it was somehow more correct. The only thing he succeeded in doing was fucking up the repository diffs. We fired him, obviously, but what I really wanted to do was give him a blanket party for making our job so difficult.
Would you like me to mail you a bottle of viagra and the pornographic magazine of your choice? Modern science has declared you don't have to slink limply into the good night.
It's posts like this that make me wish I were British, so I could know if saying something like "You're a nutter" would make sense.
Why did the catholic priest go to Macy's on saturday?
He heard that boy's pants were half off.
You PHP trolls are so cute, with your crappy code full of security holes, barely performant under load even though you run on a blazing fast interpreter. Keep playing with your training wheels, and stay away from us big boys on our Harleys, please.
They have benefited from the world that humanity has created for them, and then sold us back the profits of our own creation.
Yeah, that one makes a lot of sense. Whatever gets you through the night.