I agree. And as I posted in another thread, I would actually read the comments if there were moderation so I could browser at +4. But even then, if morons are moderating, does it matter?
I don't mean to start a flame war, but honestly... TSS is a great spot to find articles related to J2EE, but I don't hang out there much simply because they do not have moderation, karma bonuses, etc. I would post and read comments a lot more if there were those features. Until then,/. is my home.
Why hasn't MS forked linux, mozilla, etc, etc, etc? Perhaps they don't fork existing GPL'd products because then the world can easily see their evil tactics. Perhaps there is little motivation for MS to fork GPL'd projects. Would MS really have enough motivation to fork OS Java? {strapping on flame retardant suit suit} If they did fork OS Java, maybe they would actually make some worthwhile improvements. You just never know. But just as ESR pointed out, Sun can't have ubiquity and control. So it seems Sun is opting for control. I guess we will have to wait until Sun files for bankruptcy and IBM buys Java and open sources it.:)
Both open source and closed source can happily live in a capitalistic society. However I do think that closed source and closed standards lead to a monopolistic capitalism, while open source and open standards lead to a free market capitalism. I personally would rather have the free market capitalism, but I don't think we can force a free market to be free, it must free itself. In technology this is what seems to be happening. I hope it continues.
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Or apparently did try but knew enough to go to a kde mirror manually download the files and put them in my/usr/portage/distfiles dir.
Have fun waiting for the gentoo mirrors to update.
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KDE 3.2.0 Released
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Please mod the parent down. The poster doesn't know what they are talking about. See the other reply to the parent's parent on how to unmask the kde-3.2 ebuilds.
proving yet again that the day of the machines has not yet arrived
If this proves anything it is that machines are "smarter" than most of the people on earth. That is if you define smart as Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.
Saying that "Mormons are in control of Novell, Canopy, etc. because the companies are in Utah and have Mormon employees, board members, etc." is like saying that the "German government is in charge of United Linux because many of the SUSE employees are Germans."
No, sorry your references are messed up. Here I'll show you why with a little program:
- org.class snippet -
public String toString() {
return people + " are in control of " + name + " because many of the " + name + " employees are " + people + " and live in " + location + ".";
}
- output -
Mormons are in control of Novell because many of the Novell employees are Mormons and live in Utah.
Germans are in control of SuSE because many of the SuSE employees are Germans and live in Germany.
See the problem with your statement is:
"Germans" != "German Goverment"
"Mormons" == "Mormons"
And there is no looking back. The pay sucks, but the freedom is priceless (atleast until all my credit cards are max'd out). I wouldn't go back if my life depended on it.
Whatever Sun's fate, Mr Schwartz is probably right that the software industry will not be taken over by free programs, as some geeks would like. The main attraction of open source, as he says, is the fact that it is "great for innovation", not its questionable claim to be free.
Does the author of this article actually understand anything about software or economics? It seems to me that any consumer in the world should want "free programs" as opposed to those you have to pay for. Even if we assumed that all that silly FUD about Linux having a higher TCO than Windows or Solaris, were true; wouldn't consumers still desire that Linux (and the rest of open soruce) progresses to a point of of lower TCO? And shouldn't that be a lot more viable for open source than a software product which locks you into a big company that just wants more of your money, not less? Anyways, open source is winning and will win more because it can innovate faster and for less. It is not just "great for innovation", it costs less, and costs (TCO) keep going down.
My nerdy social life was formed in the womb of Trade Wars back in the bbs days. We would meet every Saturday morning at Ogre's Cave and discuss strategy, hints, and tips. I have yet to find a nerdy community like I had then. There was really something special about it. At times, I find myself desiring that community and that game again... Trade Wars, BBSing, 2400 baud modems. Ok, I'll say it, "Those were the good old days."
Until I can talk to it from any device on my wireless network, it is no Dream Machine. If it had 802.11b support and an NFS server, then I might label it the Dream Machine. Until then... I'll build my own.
Everyone is missing the point here... Let's assume that Micro$oft could actually create a search engine 70% as good as Google. Then they bundle it into their OS and IE. Then market the crap out of it. Do you really think that the normal Windows user will continue to use Google? This is the whole problem with those bastards controlling the desktop OS which 90% of the world uses. They really can do this kind of stuff and get away with it. Remember Netscape, WordPerfect, etc. Be afraid. Be very afraid. And since I am in a good mood I will give a few suggestions for helping to change this situation: 1) Write a windows worm / virus 2) Contribute to the linux kernel, kde, gnome, etc. 3) Teach your friends and family how to actually use Linux.
Does this mean that Debian will switch to the 2.2 kernel within the next 3 years?
Of-course I am just kidding... But on a serious note, give Gentoo a try. They get the new kernels into portage before the post is made on Fresh^H^H^H^H^HSlashdot.
Great work librsvg team!!! I look forward to the day when there is no more Flash because SVG is so well supported. SVG: XML based, open standard, w3c backed, blah, blah. I love it! SVG is the ISH!
People have been doing this with topo maps for years. And they use recycled milk cartons for the plastic. So it is better for the environment than paper maps. Not much new here.
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I agree. And as I posted in another thread, I would actually read the comments if there were moderation so I could browser at +4. But even then, if morons are moderating, does it matter?
I don't mean to start a flame war, but honestly... TSS is a great spot to find articles related to J2EE, but I don't hang out there much simply because they do not have moderation, karma bonuses, etc. I would post and read comments a lot more if there were those features. Until then, /. is my home.
Not to mention I have yet to see microsoft come out with anything that is elegant and easy to use.
I would agree with this except for their mice. Micro$oft mice are the only MS product I use.
You all may laugh, but I seriously want this thing There is nothing like a Tornado table.
Why hasn't MS forked linux, mozilla, etc, etc, etc? Perhaps they don't fork existing GPL'd products because then the world can easily see their evil tactics. Perhaps there is little motivation for MS to fork GPL'd projects. Would MS really have enough motivation to fork OS Java? {strapping on flame retardant suit suit} If they did fork OS Java, maybe they would actually make some worthwhile improvements. You just never know. But just as ESR pointed out, Sun can't have ubiquity and control. So it seems Sun is opting for control. I guess we will have to wait until Sun files for bankruptcy and IBM buys Java and open sources it. :)
Both open source and closed source can happily live in a capitalistic society. However I do think that closed source and closed standards lead to a monopolistic capitalism, while open source and open standards lead to a free market capitalism. I personally would rather have the free market capitalism, but I don't think we can force a free market to be free, it must free itself. In technology this is what seems to be happening. I hope it continues.
Still waiting for those gentoo mirrors?
...done! / ;-) ;-) pcre-4.4.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) arts-1.2.0.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) kdelibs-3.2.0.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) kdebase-3.2.0.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) gpgme-0.3.14.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) cryptplug-0.3.15.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) libmal-0.31.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) kdenetwork-3.2.0.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) kdepim-3.2.0.tar.bz2 / ;-) ;-) mpg123-pre0.59s.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) libfame-0.9.0.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) flac-1.1.0.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) xine-lib-1-rc3a.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) libmusicbrainz-2.0.2.tar.gz / ;-) ;-) taglib-0.96.tar.gz / ;-) ;-)
I'm not....
$ sudo emerge -f kde
Calculating dependencies
>>> emerge (1 of 27) dev-libs/libpcre-4.4 to
>>> Previously fetched file: pcre-4.4.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (2 of 27) kde-base/arts-1.2.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: arts-1.2.0.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (3 of 27) kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: kdelibs-3.2.0.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (4 of 27) kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: kdebase-3.2.0.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (5 of 27) app-crypt/gpgme-0.3.14 to
>>> Previously fetched file: gpgme-0.3.14.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (6 of 27) app-crypt/cryptplug-0.3.15 to
>>> Previously fetched file: cryptplug-0.3.15.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (7 of 27) dev-libs/libmal-0.31 to
>>> Previously fetched file: libmal-0.31.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (8 of 27) kde-base/kdenetwork-3.2.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: kdenetwork-3.2.0.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (9 of 27) kde-base/kdepim-3.2.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: kdepim-3.2.0.tar.bz2 MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (10 of 27) media-sound/mpg123-0.59s-r1 to
>>> Previously fetched file: mpg123-pre0.59s.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (11 of 27) media-libs/libfame-0.9.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: libfame-0.9.0.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (12 of 27) media-libs/flac-1.1.0 to
>>> Previously fetched file: flac-1.1.0.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (13 of 27) media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc3-r1 to
>>> Previously fetched file: xine-lib-1-rc3a.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (14 of 27) media-libs/musicbrainz-2.0.2 to
>>> Previously fetched file: libmusicbrainz-2.0.2.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (15 of 27) media-libs/taglib-1.0_beta2 to
>>> Previously fetched file: taglib-0.96.tar.gz MD5
>>> md5 src_uri
>>> emerge (16 of 27) media-video/xanim-2.80.1-r4 to
>>> Previously fetched file: xanim2801.tar.gz MD5
>>> Previously fetched file: xa1.0_cyuv_linuxELFg21.o.gz MD5
>>> Previously fetched file: xa2.1_iv32_linuxELFg21.o.gz MD5
Or apparently did try but knew enough to go to a kde mirror manually download the files and put them in my /usr/portage/distfiles dir.
Have fun waiting for the gentoo mirrors to update.
Please mod the parent down. The poster doesn't know what they are talking about. See the other reply to the parent's parent on how to unmask the kde-3.2 ebuilds.
These packages are actually masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask
= kde-base/kdeaccessibility-3.2.0i n-3.2.0a rtwork-3.2.0a se/kdeedu-3.2.0a se/kdegraphics-3.2.0e -base/kdetoys-3.2.0d e-base/kdemultimedia-3.2.00 . 2.00
<snip>
# new kde versions mask - will clean up shortly
# these will all be removed very soon (02-02-04)
=kde-base/kde-3.2.0
=kde-base/kde-i18n-3.2.0
=kde-base/kdeadm
=kde-base/kdeaddons-3.2.0
=kde-base/kde
=kde-base/kdebindings-3.2.0
=kde-b
=kde-base/kdegames-3.2.0
=kde-b
=kde-base/kdesdk-3.2.0
=kd
=kde-base/kdeutils-3.2.0
=k
=kde-base/kdepim-3.2.
=kde-base/kdenetwork-3.2.0
=kde-base/kdelibs-3
=kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0
=kde-base/arts-1.2.
</snip>
Just comment out those lines and you should be able to emerge kde-3.2.0
proving yet again that the day of the machines has not yet arrived
If this proves anything it is that machines are "smarter" than most of the people on earth. That is if you define smart as Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.
What if terrorists compromise your computer and use it to plot the next big attack that kills thousands of people?
The All Assembly Web Server! Good luck!
Saying that "Mormons are in control of Novell, Canopy, etc. because the companies are in Utah and have Mormon employees, board members, etc." is like saying that the "German government is in charge of United Linux because many of the SUSE employees are Germans."
No, sorry your references are messed up. Here I'll show you why with a little program:
- org.class snippet -
public String toString() {
return people + " are in control of " + name + " because many of the " + name + " employees are " + people + " and live in " + location + ".";
}
- showOrg.class snippet -
org1.name = "Novell";
org1.location = "Utah";
org1.people = "Mormons";
org2.name = "SuSE";
org2.location = "Germany";
org2.people = "Germans";
System.out.println(org1);
System.out.println(org2);
- output -
Mormons are in control of Novell because many of the Novell employees are Mormons and live in Utah.
Germans are in control of SuSE because many of the SuSE employees are Germans and live in Germany.
See the problem with your statement is:
"Germans" != "German Goverment"
"Mormons" == "Mormons"
And there is no looking back. The pay sucks, but the freedom is priceless (atleast until all my credit cards are max'd out). I wouldn't go back if my life depended on it.
Whatever Sun's fate, Mr Schwartz is probably right that the software industry will not be taken over by free programs, as some geeks would like. The main attraction of open source, as he says, is the fact that it is "great for innovation", not its questionable claim to be free.
Does the author of this article actually understand anything about software or economics? It seems to me that any consumer in the world should want "free programs" as opposed to those you have to pay for. Even if we assumed that all that silly FUD about Linux having a higher TCO than Windows or Solaris, were true; wouldn't consumers still desire that Linux (and the rest of open soruce) progresses to a point of of lower TCO? And shouldn't that be a lot more viable for open source than a software product which locks you into a big company that just wants more of your money, not less? Anyways, open source is winning and will win more because it can innovate faster and for less. It is not just "great for innovation", it costs less, and costs (TCO) keep going down.
My nerdy social life was formed in the womb of Trade Wars back in the bbs days. We would meet every Saturday morning at Ogre's Cave and discuss strategy, hints, and tips. I have yet to find a nerdy community like I had then. There was really something special about it. At times, I find myself desiring that community and that game again... Trade Wars, BBSing, 2400 baud modems. Ok, I'll say it, "Those were the good old days."
I am still getting 1.1MB/sec!!! Now that's a fat pipe!
Until I can talk to it from any device on my wireless network, it is no Dream Machine. If it had 802.11b support and an NFS server, then I might label it the Dream Machine. Until then... I'll build my own.
Everyone is missing the point here... Let's assume that Micro$oft could actually create a search engine 70% as good as Google. Then they bundle it into their OS and IE. Then market the crap out of it. Do you really think that the normal Windows user will continue to use Google? This is the whole problem with those bastards controlling the desktop OS which 90% of the world uses. They really can do this kind of stuff and get away with it. Remember Netscape, WordPerfect, etc. Be afraid. Be very afraid. And since I am in a good mood I will give a few suggestions for helping to change this situation:
1) Write a windows worm / virus
2) Contribute to the linux kernel, kde, gnome, etc.
3) Teach your friends and family how to actually use Linux.
Does this mean that Debian will switch to the 2.2 kernel within the next 3 years?
Of-course I am just kidding... But on a serious note, give Gentoo a try. They get the new kernels into portage before the post is made on Fresh^H^H^H^H^HSlashdot.
CU Boulder also did this: 3 billionths of a degree above absolute zero Sounds like fun.
Great work librsvg team!!! I look forward to the day when there is no more Flash because SVG is so well supported. SVG: XML based, open standard, w3c backed, blah, blah. I love it! SVG is the ISH!
My #2 favorite interview question is: "Who is/was the Future Crew?"
My #1 (unrelated) is: "Did you take things apart a a kid?"
I didn't get real into the Demo scene, but the Future Crew put out such amazing stuff.
People have been doing this with topo maps for years. And they use recycled milk cartons for the plastic. So it is better for the environment than paper maps. Not much new here.