On March 26, 2007, Moore said that the Sci Fi Channel was not picking up Caprica as a pilot, though a movie or DVD release were still possibilities. According to Moore, the show was currently "on the back burner."
"Am I the only one who sees "Completely new TCP/IP Stack" and thinks "Massive security holes bound to be lurking just below the surface?""
You're not the only one. Particularily due to the fact that the new TCP/IP stack isn't compatible with Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI).
Meaning, if your router uses SPI, which just about every newish router on the market does, you have to disable your router's firewall, or disable SPI in the router in order to use your connection in Vista.
5 minutes? man, I would love to know what walmart you go to that has only a 5 minute wait time. If I'm *very* lucky I'll spend about 15 minutes standing in the "express" lane at walmart.
Since the Bill doesn't take the ESRB rating into consideration, *nobody* knows what game(s) will be deemed inappropriate.
What's going to end up happening, at least once, is some kid is going to shoot someone, steal a car, smoke a joint, take a drink, or shoplift. A lawyer will ask if the kid plays any video games. When he finds out that the kid bought "the Sims2" 6 months before becoming a master criminal, this law will be used to sue Wal-Mart or Gamestop, or Best Buy, etc...
Wal-Mart near my house(I live in OKC) has already removed *every* single PC game from it's shelves. They had all the console locker things opened with big emtpy carts in front of them, looking as if to empty everything into. I haven't check any others yet, but I'm sure they're following suit.
I suppose Gamestop will wait and see what happens before closing stores here, there's a ton of them in OK.
If SOE were to put a pre-CU(and pre-village) server up, players would flock to it. People would renew their accounts.
Prior to the CU, *all* the players wanted were some glaring combat bugs fixed, which was what the CU was supposed to be, not a revamp of the whole game with the introduction of levels on top of a skill-based system. Not fantasy MMO Icons or particle Spell effects everytime you puch someone. Not doctors and medics waving thier hands in the air casting heal spells.
Seriously, they open a pre-CU server and I know at least 35,000 people who would immediately re-up their accounts.
I played up until about a month after the CU. It destroyed all of my non-combat characters. And I couldn't stand the magic/fantasy based Icons we were forced to use.
Smedley is obviously delusional. Remember just before the CU? When he posted all that crap about the "vast majority" of players loving the CU, despite the enormous amount of criticism on the forums, the negative results of both the in-game and forum polls(which they reset multiple times per day), and the rejection to his speech given at the convention.
The gamestop near my house has a printout of the NY Times article and a brief explanation of what has been going on in SWG posted on the wall under the SWG display box. The manager there told me he warns customers who are buying it about what's been going on.
I've also warned friends/family who were interested in the game after seeing the new commercials. I find it hard to believe that others like me aren't doing the same.
Like someone else mentioned, I hope the game fails miserably now and has to shut down. If it doesn't, other MMOs will attempt the same tactic and destroy their games for the millions that love them.
I didn't play this game, but that doesn't sound like a bug. Certain pieces of armor have always been more valuable than others. That's life. Ever see those training films where a guy is fending off a vicious dog with only a leather glove and gauntlet? Have you ever studied, say, a Roman legionnaire's armor?
it was a bug.
a full suit of composite armor in SWG consisted of many pieces. the bug in the game was that, due to shoddy ai coding, a player only needed to wear a chestpiece and boots(for example, I don't remember the full suit pieces with this bug). Since you took a penalty for every piece or armor worn, it was impossible for many classes/races to wear a complete suit of Comp armor without expensive(and temporary) buffs. Due to the bug, anyone could wear just the 3 or 4 pieces out of a 9 piece set and gain the same protection as a full suit, without any of the penalties.
There's a *huge* difference in fending off a single dog with a leather glove Vs. battling a group of Night Sisters on Dathomir firing lasers *only* at your the left forearm comp piece while you're standing there in your underwear.
It upset the armor trade economy, it made it possible for solo Entertainer/crafter classes(those with zero combat skills) to run thru the majority of themed epic quests and Village(jedi "training") content.
that's standard ops at SOE. The weeks prior to the CU this same behavior was going on. Polls being reset, entire threads being deleted(Dev threads asking for opinions), etc. Even at the Meet/Conference when SWG's public-relations person stood up and said the majority of the players loved the upcoming changes. Most of the people in the room stared at her in disbelief and tried to ask how that was even remotely possible, but Q/A wasn't allowed.
I bailed out of the game a few weeks after the CU when it became apparent that the devs were either clueless or intentionally trying to destroy the game from within.
What's the difference here? Oh right, it's illegal for a parent to give a copy of Hustler to a 7-year-old child. It's also illegal for a store to sell it to a 7-year-old child. Unlike most states in the US where there is no law to prevent 7-year-old children from entering a store and buying a copy of GTA3 without their parent's knowledge.
I'm not sure I understand your point. Making it Illegal to sell games to kids based on existing or newly adopted ratings standards will change nothing at all. The problem has never been about stores selling games to minors. Sure, stores like WalMart, GameStop, etc. *shouldn't* sell them to kids(and most don't, at least in my experience), but it happens from time to time. The result of these kids playing these games: Nothing. There's been zero evidence to support any claims by any of those groups(or people like Jack) who like to pretend that video games are the reason for *every* crime ever committed by a child.
The REAL problem lies in asshat parents/grandparents who buy these games for their children then hear about the Hot Coffee Mod or hack to remove nudity dithering in Sims 2. They screan and yell about how children are being trained how to murder, rape and pillage(even though nobody is), demanding that the government step in and take over thier parenting responsibilities.
If it suddenly became *illegal* to sell certain games to children, absolutely nothing would change. Retarded parent would still buy the games for their kids, regardless(or due to) ever-changing ratings systems printed all over the boxes. Then they'll scream and yell some more. It will eventually get to the point where you won't be able to buy any games whatsoever due to Stores not willing to face the criminal charges brought against them when some religious nut finds out that Billy is playing with naked animal avatars in ToonTown.
This BS needs to be stopped now. There's nothing wrong with the current Rating system. Changing it will only confuse parents who don't even know how to turn on a PS2. Media outlets need to be held accountable for the lies and idiocy they report to the non-gamer masses.
So you're saying that *all* advertising for "adult" material should be outlawed in venues that children have access to?
That would mean no commercials for rated R movies/DVDs during "prime time", no pg-13 during the hours that even younger children are watching TV, especially on the weekends. Oh, and don't forget alcohol ads on before 10pm, yes, even during the sunday afternoon football games.
A quick flip thru just about any magazine in the country shows numerous movie advertisements for movies a child shouldn't see and tobacco ads. And these are magazines that any 9yo can pick up at 7-11. Not just gaming mags. And all readily available at the 'checkout counter'.
Let's not forget about the Evening news. Nobody's regulating all the sex, violence, drug use, violent sports, etc. shown to children on all the major network 2-3 times an evening. Are CNN, FOX-news and MSNBC regulated by the vchip? Better call your congressman.
Forget the fact that the Justice Department data shows that Juvenile Violent crimes are at an all time low and have been dropping steadily since the mid 90's. Some kid with emotional and mental problems stole his dad's gun and shot another kid in school someplace in middle-america. Since the news media found an X-box in his bedroom, there *MUST* be some correlation, so let's ban video games.
It would be nice to pretend that's what's going to happen, but it's not.
The board that's going to determine whether or not a game gets the "18" sticker doesn't have to use the ESRB ratings. They can be as subjective as they want and listen to third-party nonsense(Jack Thompson) and put the "18" sticker on anything. Like The Sims2. It's rated T by the ESRB. People like Jack want the "18" sticker on it.
Not only that, did you hear what some of his reasonings(Jack's) were for the game's content?
Gabe mentioned this on Penny-Arcade last night and he puts it better than I could, but Jack is trying to say that since the NFL won't allow its name to be used, it *MUST* be bad. Which we all know is a flat-out lie.
They're complaining about the fact that a board of people will determine the subjective nature of the content regardless of the ESRB rating and use their determination to decide what titles will carry California's '18' sticker.
These people will certainly not be gamers. They won't sit there and play the games all the way thru to determine the content. They'll base their decisions on FUD(Jack Thompson's insane ranting).
Movies and Music have a rating standard across the nation. What's rated R in Kansas is Rated R in California.
Under this Law, what's rated E(ToonTown) in Kansas could be rated '18' in California because Donald doesn't wear pants, or some other silly nonsense.
Realistically, what will probably happen is: What's rated E,T or M(any non-EA football game) everywhere else could be labeled as '18' in California due to the same sort of Crap that happened on CNN last night.
yes, but if you went and called and got your dog and/or niece a card, that wouldn't make it legal would it?
Dunno, would it?
I'm sure if I did so and then used the card to make purchases it would be illegal, however, we're talking about using one for supposed proof of age. No purchases are taking place.
Yeah, we should all just shut the fuck up and not try to influence each other.
That's some of the best advice anyone could tell to people who seem to think that *their* morals and beliefs should be forced on others to the point of legislation.
Sorry, but I think that in order to live in a society, people should discuss with each other various issues and try to come to a mutual understanding, even if they don't agree on all points.
Discussion about issues that effect our society is a wonderful thing. What isn't a wonderful thing is law that is passed without the input of society in an attempt by the few to control the lives of everyone. Particularily when that control is over the way a parent raises a child. What isn't wonderful are laws designed to remove freedoms from people, or to criminalize the most trivial things in the name of "morality".
If you've got an idea that you think may help society as a whole, great! Discuss it with your peers, your children, your elders, society. Don't sit on a high horse, get a handful of like-minded individuals to lobby for a law that society probably doesn't even want.
Most importantly, DON'T approach an individual, especially a parent, who's breaking no laws, and question thier actions in a manner which suggests they may be ignorant of your particular moral code. It's rude, it's uncalled for and it's none of your damn business.
No, I won't mind my own fucking business, I'm going to let you know what I think of your decisions, and I have a right to do so guaranteed by the 1st Amendment.
Yes, and of course, your 1st Amendment right is more important than the 1st Amendment right of whomever you're about to get a "STFU" from.
1. It's none of your business what he buys for his son. 2. It's not your job, nor anyone else's to declare what's "generally out of bounds for what most younger children can digest with complete comprehension". That's his job. 3. There is absolutely no direct coorelation between playing violent video games and real crime. As a matter of fact, it's been shown that over the past 20 years, violent crimes performed by minors has gone significantly down. 4. He's probably sick and tired of everyone else in the country trying to be the parent for his child, including you.
Because you can't show them your driver's license or photo ID over the internet. The only way they can even try to check for age is to see if you have a credit card (you can only get your own if you're 18 in most states).
My dog is only 6 and he gets credit card apps all the time, including the pre-approved ones you activate with a phonecall.
My niece is in 9th grade and gets apps all the time as well.
You realize not every woman is a housewife or a spinster, don't you?
Very True.
But the ones who have their husbands drive them to work, or take the bus/train to work can't be expected to lug around a 360 and a tv with them. They end up buying DSs to play Nintendogs on their rides.
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the Caprica series isn't happening...
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caprica_(TV_series)
On March 26, 2007, Moore said that the Sci Fi Channel was not picking up Caprica as a pilot, though a movie or DVD release were still possibilities. According to Moore, the show was currently "on the back burner."
"Am I the only one who sees "Completely new TCP/IP Stack" and thinks "Massive security holes bound to be lurking just below the surface?""
You're not the only one. Particularily due to the fact that the new TCP/IP stack isn't compatible with Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI).
Meaning, if your router uses SPI, which just about every newish router on the market does, you have to disable your router's firewall, or disable SPI in the router in order to use your connection in Vista.
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5 minutes? man, I would love to know what walmart you go to that has only a 5 minute wait time. If I'm *very* lucky I'll spend about 15 minutes standing in the "express" lane at walmart.
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Almost everyone I encounter in Eve(both in 0.0 and Empire space) is American.
Since the Bill doesn't take the ESRB rating into consideration, *nobody* knows what game(s) will be deemed inappropriate.
What's going to end up happening, at least once, is some kid is going to shoot someone, steal a car, smoke a joint, take a drink, or shoplift. A lawyer will ask if the kid plays any video games. When he finds out that the kid bought "the Sims2" 6 months before becoming a master criminal, this law will be used to sue Wal-Mart or Gamestop, or Best Buy, etc...
Wal-Mart near my house(I live in OKC) has already removed *every* single PC game from it's shelves. They had all the console locker things opened with big emtpy carts in front of them, looking as if to empty everything into. I haven't check any others yet, but I'm sure they're following suit.
I suppose Gamestop will wait and see what happens before closing stores here, there's a ton of them in OK.
Yeah, he also said that SWG was the #4 MMO overall behind WoW, EQ2 and EQ(in that order). Never believe anything that comes from SOE.
Same thing would happen with SWG.
If SOE were to put a pre-CU(and pre-village) server up, players would flock to it. People would renew their accounts.
Prior to the CU, *all* the players wanted were some glaring combat bugs fixed, which was what the CU was supposed to be, not a revamp of the whole game with the introduction of levels on top of a skill-based system. Not fantasy MMO Icons or particle Spell effects everytime you puch someone. Not doctors and medics waving thier hands in the air casting heal spells.
Seriously, they open a pre-CU server and I know at least 35,000 people who would immediately re-up their accounts.
I played up until about a month after the CU. It destroyed all of my non-combat characters. And I couldn't stand the magic/fantasy based Icons we were forced to use.
Smedley is obviously delusional. Remember just before the CU? When he posted all that crap about the "vast majority" of players loving the CU, despite the enormous amount of criticism on the forums, the negative results of both the in-game and forum polls(which they reset multiple times per day), and the rejection to his speech given at the convention.
The gamestop near my house has a printout of the NY Times article and a brief explanation of what has been going on in SWG posted on the wall under the SWG display box. The manager there told me he warns customers who are buying it about what's been going on.
I've also warned friends/family who were interested in the game after seeing the new commercials. I find it hard to believe that others like me aren't doing the same.
Like someone else mentioned, I hope the game fails miserably now and has to shut down. If it doesn't, other MMOs will attempt the same tactic and destroy their games for the millions that love them.
it was a bug.
a full suit of composite armor in SWG consisted of many pieces. the bug in the game was that, due to shoddy ai coding, a player only needed to wear a chestpiece and boots(for example, I don't remember the full suit pieces with this bug). Since you took a penalty for every piece or armor worn, it was impossible for many classes/races to wear a complete suit of Comp armor without expensive(and temporary) buffs. Due to the bug, anyone could wear just the 3 or 4 pieces out of a 9 piece set and gain the same protection as a full suit, without any of the penalties.
There's a *huge* difference in fending off a single dog with a leather glove Vs. battling a group of Night Sisters on Dathomir firing lasers *only* at your the left forearm comp piece while you're standing there in your underwear.
It upset the armor trade economy, it made it possible for solo Entertainer/crafter classes(those with zero combat skills) to run thru the majority of themed epic quests and Village(jedi "training") content.
It was nothing like the Roman army.
there is no unlock anymore.
you buy the game, install it, and click Jedi.
that's standard ops at SOE. The weeks prior to the CU this same behavior was going on. Polls being reset, entire threads being deleted(Dev threads asking for opinions), etc. Even at the Meet/Conference when SWG's public-relations person stood up and said the majority of the players loved the upcoming changes. Most of the people in the room stared at her in disbelief and tried to ask how that was even remotely possible, but Q/A wasn't allowed.
I bailed out of the game a few weeks after the CU when it became apparent that the devs were either clueless or intentionally trying to destroy the game from within.
The REAL problem lies in asshat parents/grandparents who buy these games for their children then hear about the Hot Coffee Mod or hack to remove nudity dithering in Sims 2. They screan and yell about how children are being trained how to murder, rape and pillage(even though nobody is), demanding that the government step in and take over thier parenting responsibilities.
If it suddenly became *illegal* to sell certain games to children, absolutely nothing would change. Retarded parent would still buy the games for their kids, regardless(or due to) ever-changing ratings systems printed all over the boxes. Then they'll scream and yell some more. It will eventually get to the point where you won't be able to buy any games whatsoever due to Stores not willing to face the criminal charges brought against them when some religious nut finds out that Billy is playing with naked animal avatars in ToonTown.
This BS needs to be stopped now. There's nothing wrong with the current Rating system. Changing it will only confuse parents who don't even know how to turn on a PS2. Media outlets need to be held accountable for the lies and idiocy they report to the non-gamer masses.
oops! replied too fast :)
I meant No, it's only illegal to smack kids in video games in CA
yes, but not in video games.
So you're saying that *all* advertising for "adult" material should be outlawed in venues that children have access to?
That would mean no commercials for rated R movies/DVDs during "prime time", no pg-13 during the hours that even younger children are watching TV, especially on the weekends. Oh, and don't forget alcohol ads on before 10pm, yes, even during the sunday afternoon football games.
A quick flip thru just about any magazine in the country shows numerous movie advertisements for movies a child shouldn't see and tobacco ads. And these are magazines that any 9yo can pick up at 7-11. Not just gaming mags. And all readily available at the 'checkout counter'.
Let's not forget about the Evening news. Nobody's regulating all the sex, violence, drug use, violent sports, etc. shown to children on all the major network 2-3 times an evening. Are CNN, FOX-news and MSNBC regulated by the vchip? Better call your congressman.
Forget the fact that the Justice Department data shows that Juvenile Violent crimes are at an all time low and have been dropping steadily since the mid 90's. Some kid with emotional and mental problems stole his dad's gun and shot another kid in school someplace in middle-america. Since the news media found an X-box in his bedroom, there *MUST* be some correlation, so let's ban video games.
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It would be nice to pretend that's what's going to happen, but it's not.
The board that's going to determine whether or not a game gets the "18" sticker doesn't have to use the ESRB ratings. They can be as subjective as they want and listen to third-party nonsense(Jack Thompson) and put the "18" sticker on anything. Like The Sims2. It's rated T by the ESRB. People like Jack want the "18" sticker on it.
Not only that, did you hear what some of his reasonings(Jack's) were for the game's content?
Gabe mentioned this on Penny-Arcade last night and he puts it better than I could, but Jack is trying to say that since the NFL won't allow its name to be used, it *MUST* be bad. Which we all know is a flat-out lie.
They're complaining about the fact that a board of people will determine the subjective nature of the content regardless of the ESRB rating and use their determination to decide what titles will carry California's '18' sticker.
These people will certainly not be gamers. They won't sit there and play the games all the way thru to determine the content. They'll base their decisions on FUD(Jack Thompson's insane ranting).
Movies and Music have a rating standard across the nation. What's rated R in Kansas is Rated R in California.
Under this Law, what's rated E(ToonTown) in Kansas could be rated '18' in California because Donald doesn't wear pants, or some other silly nonsense.
Realistically, what will probably happen is: What's rated E,T or M(any non-EA football game) everywhere else could be labeled as '18' in California due to the same sort of Crap that happened on CNN last night.
I'm sure if I did so and then used the card to make purchases it would be illegal, however, we're talking about using one for supposed proof of age. No purchases are taking place.
If you've got an idea that you think may help society as a whole, great! Discuss it with your peers, your children, your elders, society. Don't sit on a high horse, get a handful of like-minded individuals to lobby for a law that society probably doesn't even want.
Most importantly, DON'T approach an individual, especially a parent, who's breaking no laws, and question thier actions in a manner which suggests they may be ignorant of your particular moral code. It's rude, it's uncalled for and it's none of your damn business.
Yes, and of course, your 1st Amendment right is more important than the 1st Amendment right of whomever you're about to get a "STFU" from.True, but those pre-approved ones are.
As for the apps, if my dog had a SSN, I'm fairly certain I could get a card out of the 10-30 apps he receives in a month.
A minor most certainly could, especially one with an income and a bank account.
I'm agreeing with the Dad in this case.
1. It's none of your business what he buys for his son.
2. It's not your job, nor anyone else's to declare what's "generally out of bounds for what most younger children can digest with complete comprehension". That's his job.
3. There is absolutely no direct coorelation between playing violent video games and real crime. As a matter of fact, it's been shown that over the past 20 years, violent crimes performed by minors has gone significantly down.
4. He's probably sick and tired of everyone else in the country trying to be the parent for his child, including you.
My niece is in 9th grade and gets apps all the time as well.
But the ones who have their husbands drive them to work, or take the bus/train to work can't be expected to lug around a 360 and a tv with them. They end up buying DSs to play Nintendogs on their rides.