Considering there are about 380 XBOX games and 89 sports games have been published for the system, its safe to say that quite a bit less than 99% of the system's games involve guns.
This is less a comment on the original post and more about whoever modded it insightful instead of funny. This proves that hate and ignorance are alive and kicking on slashdot and that the games section has left too much power in the hands in the fanboy fringe. I say kill the games section or remove the moderation. The games news pieces become Nintendo cheering sections with police with names like Nintendoctor around to ensure only things that show Nintendo in a positive light and XBOX in a negative light get modded up. Its counter to what moderation is all about and a slap in the face to open-minded, progressive readers of this website.
Gamespot just reported that an irate roommate just shot an XBOX. It ceased to function, however the case was not penetrated. Some parts could surely be salvaged AND anyone wearing under their shirt would be saved.
Just because you don't know the games that Pikmin draws from, doesn't mean they aren't out there. I don't have the time or the will to educate you on every game that has ever been released.
ET and MP, that's right, throw them out. NOT developed by Nintendo, but that was going to be MY next point. Thanks for rushing ahead.
Thanks for your opinion. All that I got out of it is that you like SSX so you are about the lowest common denominator games. And thats cool, just MHO. I mean, some people are drawn to racing and flashing lights and calling it snowboarding, and some people have taste so its all good.
Why do I care who is making those plushes? Nintendo licensed it. They made a(nother) game just to sell plushes and/or trading cards. And you are crazy or ignorant or both if you think Lucas doesn't PERSONALLY approve every Hasbro action figure, video games, plush toy, pog, commerative plate, etc that is licensed by Lucasarts. Your point is not just moot, but wrong.
Now as I was saying, the creator of Metroid, Game Boy and the D-pad is dead. The creator of mario and zelda is 50, yet is such an ego maniac he won't go away and just stays involved enough to prevent them from doing anything new. Nothing new comes out of the Nintendo studio that doesn't involve a plush doll or trading card. C'mon, find an example.
Since you can't prove that wasn't you, AND you felt the need to respond, it does appear you were caught red handed. If you wanted to have an AC flamewar, I'm in, I just had to do as the locals do.
As a matter of fact I do have a Gamecube, and Pikmin. As I have stated before I work in a capacity that I get all new consoles, and most games, for free. If Pikmin is what passes for innovative on the Gamecube, and you are right it is, thank you for proving my point. Making presumptions about people just makes you look like a jackass.
As a matter of fact the game I am playing now in console land is Amped 2 for XBOX, the only snowboarding simulation out there. Mostly I have been playing Diablo II, so that is literally what I will be returning too.
Hey attack me if you want, but unless you can refute any of my points (you didnt), you should try opening your mind and closing the argumentum ad hominem.
You all have it wrong. Nintendo is in the business of selling cards and plush toys. Here they are positioned ok, so long as pokemon remains popular. Nintendo will never, ever, innovate in video games again. Period. Any talent they had in the 80's is now old and senile, and the designers that have replaced them have done nothing but copy the predecessors.
Wait, they did invent the e-reader! They found a way to both sell cards and make you pay for either: software you paid for long ago or the chance to use all the features of the software you just bought. At least one person over there is still clever; too bad he is in the card/plush division and not in video games.
If you sell me a copy of your book for $0 and I turn around and sell it for $20, your bad.
If you sell me 1000 copies of your book for $0 and I turn around and sell them for $20 each, your bad.
If you sell me 1,000,000 copies of your OS for $0 and I turn around and sell them for $100 each, your bad.
If you sell me (x number) copies of your (y content) at (z price) and I turn around them and sell them for (z*n price) each, your bad; well, assuming n >= 1.
Isn't this the same group that was pushing the first sale doctrine on Apple a few weeks ago? Not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot. The only one here that must follow the rules is Sigma, everyone else is just a reseller selling the product.
I'm going to assume that since you have yielded to the playground tactic of name-calling you realize you have a weak arguement at best.
So, we have established that the "government" can secure its networks and pre-determine who has access to it. It can also be shown that the "government" can cut-off access to that network, for example if a student is expelled or a federal employee fired.
Now you assert some bizarre FUD-wreaking freedom of speech arguement. To move into this arena you first have to prove that monitoring their own network's traffic is inhibiting some student's freedom of speech. How would that be exactly? Oh thats right, its not. Copyright infringement is against the law no matter where in the US you hang your hat. On campus or off. One could set up a website blasting a professor, a dean, the local represtative, or the president of the united states, all without triggering the system. Remarkable freedom of speech indeed! Of course, if I was having a phone call with my buddy about the state of affairs in Iraq, then called Ashcroft to add him in on three-way, I would fully expect him to write down what I said. So lets see, filesharing across a network, then bringing in the government on three-way by running it through them...ouch, not too smart.
I commend your use of the vague "filters" in the library example. When adults dicuss things we talk about specifics and use clear terms to show that our argument is not based on fallacies of ambiguity. In the case you mention, the "filters" do not monitor bandwidth, but content. Clearly, content is speech, resource management is not. In the future you will want to make sure you are comparing apples to apples to ensure you don't make yourself look foolish.
What was your point again? I bet you'll find you didn't have one. Unless you count argumentum ad hominem as a point. Turns out I'm pretty good at that too!
MS releases product with known life of 18 months and doesn't tell anyone = teh flames.
Apples does it = teh apologists.
This is a fatal design flaw. The battery should be as easy to replace as any walkman. Press and slide -> remove old battery -> insert new battery -> replace cover. Anything else is Apple farking the consumer.
But hey, you guys bought the hype. Apple wins. One more reason why I don't buy products from a company that hire Jeff Goldblum as a spokesman. That guy just stinks of poser intellectual.
Get over your japanese fanboy elitism and try KotoR. If there were any random battles they weren't random in the sense that JRPGs are, but in the good sense as random number of enemies rather than random encounters.
Just because some developer did it once, doesn't mean it has to be that way forever.
To the japanese, try some new things. Let the player have choices in how the game turns out. Get rid of random battles, let me see the enemies coming and decide how I want to deal with it. How can I roleplay a non-violent character if I am always getting in fights?
But whats the point if we aren't watching the people? Couldn't they just as soon then have 10 xearo bots go against 10 anarki bots in Q3? Isn't it about the people? Real sports have real people behind them, and this is what is interesting and why battlebot type shows will always be the realm of the niche. People WANT to see people. Unfortunately, I don't think professional gamers are interesting. To watch, or as people.
As for the metric-f*ckton comment, 96k people are playing CS worldwide(by far the largest played fps) as I type this. Compare to such questionable sports enterprises such WWE Raw (this appears on Spike TV, a US cable channel) at 2900k. To crack network "sports" in the US, WWE Smackdown (UPN) will take 5810k. And then of course, real sports go way up from there such as Monday Night Football at 16640k. Maybe a metric-f*ckton loses something in the conversion to standard, but the audience is not really that big today.
If I have done business with you in the past, and you reported that the business was satisfactory, and I have a new good or service to offer, why is it unreasonable to expect you might like to know about it? No, this is clearly both morally and legally acceptable.
It covers the RIAA and MPAA no more or less than it covers works released under the GPL. Why do you choose to spin it one way?
Thats a tough one. Generally its not considered unsolicited advertising if you have prior business with the entity. See the Do-Not-Call list. If I have a credit card with a bank, and the banks calls me out of the blue to try to sell me anti-fraud protection, that is legal, and should be. If one is using the material of the copyright, patent, publicity, or trademark rights holder, you have prior business with the entity (business that was initiated by the end user, specifically). Therefore, like Do-Not-Call, that entity is allowed to contact you to offer such wonderful opportunities as settling out of court to avoid a massive infringement lawsuit.
I fail to see the problem, or even while this special exemption was necessary. Also note this would protect rights holders whose works are published under the GPL as well as the **AA.
Good try, but the question was "citizens". That would be US citizens. Since the people you mentioned were not US citizens, our Constitution does not provide them any rights. Care to try again?
And remember, the question was Ashcroft. Begin your list here:
I don't have time to respond to your personal opinions on the facts I presented, but I will debunk PlanteGamecube's hardware numbers. This is going to hurt, so don't read on if you can't take a hit.
In October, the first full month after the price drop, according to that website, the Gamecube only outsold the XBOX by 80,000 units. I will work on the assumption that they will beat XBOX by the same amount in November and December as well to err in Nintendo's favor here. (This is not likely to be the case since a large push is expected immediately after a price drop, with the effects of the drop falling greatly after the initial couple of weeks, but I'll go with it.) By the end of the holiday season, Nintendo could potentially erase 240,000 of the 1.3 million console lead XBOX has in the US right now. Thats it. And sales of both will slow again after the holidays. Just for fun, if they could maintain that pace it would still take almost a year and a half for the Gamecube to pass the XBOX in installed consoles. Did you say the next one is coming out in 2004 or 2005? Doesn't seem like there is time left in that case...
That is viewing everything in a light most favorable to Nintendo. In reality, XBOX sales are also on the uptick, as stated previously it remains to be seen if the price drop only created a spike in sales that cannot be maintained, and with the release of MK:DD Nintendo has now released ALL of its killer apps for this generation. Thats it, they are all out there. The XBOX can still do a price drop, can still outspend Gamecube in marketing, and can pretty much drive the stake all the way in whenever MS feels like it.
Don't discount the significance of a Japanese game company posting a loss. Its not like pets.com or something over here, that is a huge deal.
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Considering there are about 380 XBOX games and 89 sports games have been published for the system, its safe to say that quite a bit less than 99% of the system's games involve guns.
This is less a comment on the original post and more about whoever modded it insightful instead of funny. This proves that hate and ignorance are alive and kicking on slashdot and that the games section has left too much power in the hands in the fanboy fringe. I say kill the games section or remove the moderation. The games news pieces become Nintendo cheering sections with police with names like Nintendoctor around to ensure only things that show Nintendo in a positive light and XBOX in a negative light get modded up. Its counter to what moderation is all about and a slap in the face to open-minded, progressive readers of this website.
But would you trust your Gamecube as body armor?
Gamespot just reported that an irate roommate just shot an XBOX. It ceased to function, however the case was not penetrated. Some parts could surely be salvaged AND anyone wearing under their shirt would be saved.
Just because you don't know the games that Pikmin draws from, doesn't mean they aren't out there. I don't have the time or the will to educate you on every game that has ever been released.
ET and MP, that's right, throw them out. NOT developed by Nintendo, but that was going to be MY next point. Thanks for rushing ahead.
Thanks for your opinion. All that I got out of it is that you like SSX so you are about the lowest common denominator games. And thats cool, just MHO. I mean, some people are drawn to racing and flashing lights and calling it snowboarding, and some people have taste so its all good.
Why do I care who is making those plushes? Nintendo licensed it. They made a(nother) game just to sell plushes and/or trading cards. And you are crazy or ignorant or both if you think Lucas doesn't PERSONALLY approve every Hasbro action figure, video games, plush toy, pog, commerative plate, etc that is licensed by Lucasarts. Your point is not just moot, but wrong.
Now as I was saying, the creator of Metroid, Game Boy and the D-pad is dead. The creator of mario and zelda is 50, yet is such an ego maniac he won't go away and just stays involved enough to prevent them from doing anything new. Nothing new comes out of the Nintendo studio that doesn't involve a plush doll or trading card. C'mon, find an example.
Since you can't prove that wasn't you, AND you felt the need to respond, it does appear you were caught red handed. If you wanted to have an AC flamewar, I'm in, I just had to do as the locals do.
GG
This is ground control. Come in twitter. Earth calling. Come in twitter. Are you reading us here in reality? Please copy twitter. Whats your 20?
As a matter of fact I do have a Gamecube, and Pikmin. As I have stated before I work in a capacity that I get all new consoles, and most games, for free. If Pikmin is what passes for innovative on the Gamecube, and you are right it is, thank you for proving my point. Making presumptions about people just makes you look like a jackass.
As a matter of fact the game I am playing now in console land is Amped 2 for XBOX, the only snowboarding simulation out there. Mostly I have been playing Diablo II, so that is literally what I will be returning too.
Hey attack me if you want, but unless you can refute any of my points (you didnt), you should try opening your mind and closing the argumentum ad hominem.
And allow me to point out the Pikmin plushes if I may...
Mod me down if you must, but read and my post and you might learn something. Still looks like its all about the plushes to me.
You all have it wrong. Nintendo is in the business of selling cards and plush toys. Here they are positioned ok, so long as pokemon remains popular. Nintendo will never, ever, innovate in video games again. Period. Any talent they had in the 80's is now old and senile, and the designers that have replaced them have done nothing but copy the predecessors.
Wait, they did invent the e-reader! They found a way to both sell cards and make you pay for either: software you paid for long ago or the chance to use all the features of the software you just bought. At least one person over there is still clever; too bad he is in the card/plush division and not in video games.
Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey, First Sale.
If you sell me a copy of your book for $0 and I turn around and sell it for $20, your bad.
If you sell me 1000 copies of your book for $0 and I turn around and sell them for $20 each, your bad.
If you sell me 1,000,000 copies of your OS for $0 and I turn around and sell them for $100 each, your bad.
If you sell me (x number) copies of your (y content) at (z price) and I turn around them and sell them for (z*n price) each, your bad; well, assuming n >= 1.
Isn't this the same group that was pushing the first sale doctrine on Apple a few weeks ago? Not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot. The only one here that must follow the rules is Sigma, everyone else is just a reseller selling the product.
I'm going to assume that since you have yielded to the playground tactic of name-calling you realize you have a weak arguement at best.
So, we have established that the "government" can secure its networks and pre-determine who has access to it. It can also be shown that the "government" can cut-off access to that network, for example if a student is expelled or a federal employee fired.
Now you assert some bizarre FUD-wreaking freedom of speech arguement. To move into this arena you first have to prove that monitoring their own network's traffic is inhibiting some student's freedom of speech. How would that be exactly? Oh thats right, its not. Copyright infringement is against the law no matter where in the US you hang your hat. On campus or off. One could set up a website blasting a professor, a dean, the local represtative, or the president of the united states, all without triggering the system. Remarkable freedom of speech indeed! Of course, if I was having a phone call with my buddy about the state of affairs in Iraq, then called Ashcroft to add him in on three-way, I would fully expect him to write down what I said. So lets see, filesharing across a network, then bringing in the government on three-way by running it through them...ouch, not too smart.
I commend your use of the vague "filters" in the library example. When adults dicuss things we talk about specifics and use clear terms to show that our argument is not based on fallacies of ambiguity. In the case you mention, the "filters" do not monitor bandwidth, but content. Clearly, content is speech, resource management is not. In the future you will want to make sure you are comparing apples to apples to ensure you don't make yourself look foolish.
What was your point again? I bet you'll find you didn't have one. Unless you count argumentum ad hominem as a point. Turns out I'm pretty good at that too!
Now, what was your point again?
teh FUD = teh win!!!11
Its not happening now, but it might someday and you should all be afraid!!!111
Right analog stick could block on any system's controller.
Kthnx bye gg
So, recapping for the 5th time, as you admit, just because it is government property, doesn't mean its free use for everyone.
What was your point again?
MS releases product with known life of 18 months and doesn't tell anyone = teh flames.
Apples does it = teh apologists.
This is a fatal design flaw. The battery should be as easy to replace as any walkman. Press and slide -> remove old battery -> insert new battery -> replace cover. Anything else is Apple farking the consumer.
But hey, you guys bought the hype. Apple wins. One more reason why I don't buy products from a company that hire Jeff Goldblum as a spokesman. That guy just stinks of poser intellectual.
Not all RPGs are JRPGs.
Get over your japanese fanboy elitism and try KotoR. If there were any random battles they weren't random in the sense that JRPGs are, but in the good sense as random number of enemies rather than random encounters.
Just because some developer did it once, doesn't mean it has to be that way forever.
To the japanese, try some new things. Let the player have choices in how the game turns out. Get rid of random battles, let me see the enemies coming and decide how I want to deal with it. How can I roleplay a non-violent character if I am always getting in fights?
So what was your point again?
No reason for the ESA to have an angle there, is there?
How would you feel about an MS report suggestion Windows is the best operating system because they asked some random people off the street?
They may be able to prove it another way, but this kind of poll is taken just to spin.
Ironic, considering that taking steroids, which is shown to make one more violent, also makes one sterile.
But whats the point if we aren't watching the people? Couldn't they just as soon then have 10 xearo bots go against 10 anarki bots in Q3? Isn't it about the people? Real sports have real people behind them, and this is what is interesting and why battlebot type shows will always be the realm of the niche. People WANT to see people. Unfortunately, I don't think professional gamers are interesting. To watch, or as people.
As for the metric-f*ckton comment, 96k people are playing CS worldwide(by far the largest played fps) as I type this. Compare to such questionable sports enterprises such WWE Raw (this appears on Spike TV, a US cable channel) at 2900k. To crack network "sports" in the US, WWE Smackdown (UPN) will take 5810k. And then of course, real sports go way up from there such as Monday Night Football at 16640k. Maybe a metric-f*ckton loses something in the conversion to standard, but the audience is not really that big today.
Why is that too far?
If I have done business with you in the past, and you reported that the business was satisfactory, and I have a new good or service to offer, why is it unreasonable to expect you might like to know about it? No, this is clearly both morally and legally acceptable.
It covers the RIAA and MPAA no more or less than it covers works released under the GPL. Why do you choose to spin it one way?
Oh, right, that part about hate on haters.
So hate on haters.
Way to live to the stereotype!
This is irrelevent since the provision is not necessary. Remember this protects the little guy as much as the big.
How is this corruption if it protects works published under the GPL exactly as much as it protects Microsoft?
Choking our freedom? Are you a spammer or something? What freedom of yours is choked by this bill?
Thats a tough one. Generally its not considered unsolicited advertising if you have prior business with the entity. See the Do-Not-Call list. If I have a credit card with a bank, and the banks calls me out of the blue to try to sell me anti-fraud protection, that is legal, and should be. If one is using the material of the copyright, patent, publicity, or trademark rights holder, you have prior business with the entity (business that was initiated by the end user, specifically). Therefore, like Do-Not-Call, that entity is allowed to contact you to offer such wonderful opportunities as settling out of court to avoid a massive infringement lawsuit.
I fail to see the problem, or even while this special exemption was necessary. Also note this would protect rights holders whose works are published under the GPL as well as the **AA.
So hate on haters.
And DDT was an invention once too. That change went well.
Good try, but the question was "citizens". That would be US citizens. Since the people you mentioned were not US citizens, our Constitution does not provide them any rights. Care to try again?
And remember, the question was Ashcroft. Begin your list here:
I don't have time to respond to your personal opinions on the facts I presented, but I will debunk PlanteGamecube's hardware numbers. This is going to hurt, so don't read on if you can't take a hit.
In October, the first full month after the price drop, according to that website, the Gamecube only outsold the XBOX by 80,000 units. I will work on the assumption that they will beat XBOX by the same amount in November and December as well to err in Nintendo's favor here. (This is not likely to be the case since a large push is expected immediately after a price drop, with the effects of the drop falling greatly after the initial couple of weeks, but I'll go with it.) By the end of the holiday season, Nintendo could potentially erase 240,000 of the 1.3 million console lead XBOX has in the US right now. Thats it. And sales of both will slow again after the holidays. Just for fun, if they could maintain that pace it would still take almost a year and a half for the Gamecube to pass the XBOX in installed consoles. Did you say the next one is coming out in 2004 or 2005? Doesn't seem like there is time left in that case...
That is viewing everything in a light most favorable to Nintendo. In reality, XBOX sales are also on the uptick, as stated previously it remains to be seen if the price drop only created a spike in sales that cannot be maintained, and with the release of MK:DD Nintendo has now released ALL of its killer apps for this generation. Thats it, they are all out there. The XBOX can still do a price drop, can still outspend Gamecube in marketing, and can pretty much drive the stake all the way in whenever MS feels like it.
Don't discount the significance of a Japanese game company posting a loss. Its not like pets.com or something over here, that is a huge deal.
Again, all facts. Flame on again I guess.
Where did I critique the image? You did, not I.
As for your second point, no they didn't. If they did, you would not know of the names Retro Studios or Silicon Knights.
you're on crack.
Again, attacking the individual. The classic resort of someone who has no evidence to refute a point.