Mankind's future in computing must build on immoveable foundations of theory and logic if it is to progress into a realm where machines of IQs in the millions work at our behest. Advocating some sort of ad hoc "practical" computing barbarism is very short-sighted, dangerous, and regressive.
Proton is plenty reliable, but it won't be ever man-rated because of poisonous fuel (geptyl).
I don't now what is required for 'man-rating'. The Space Shuttle is man-rated yet passengers have roulette wheel odds of dying horribly on any given flight. The Gemini Titan and Space Shuttle both carry Nitrogen Tetroxide, highly toxic and corrosive.
because otherwise they might, you know... design another one, maybe?
The Russians are reputed to be practical. It is obvious they are straining financially to build the Kliper. The idea they will develop a new clean sheet rocket design instead of adapt an existing does not make sense. It has certainly not been in the news.
2. The vehicle will be launch on top of a Russian launch vehicle.
Which vehicle? I doubt if a proton is reliable enough. Since this is larger and heavier than the Soyuz it does not seem that there is a rocket in the Russian inventory that can orbit it, much less send it to the moon.
I point out that the NYT has ridiculed New Orleans levee upgrades and pork barrel spending on their opinion pages in the past. I don't think they should opine the opposite view now that the levee gave way. Just because Fox pointed out the inconsistency does not make it any less factual. You may not like my politics. From your reply I deduce you are a leftist wimp. Effective moderation will encourage serious views from the left and right. It does not currently do that. Have a nice day comrade.
Here my post that triggered the timeout event. Admittedly, due to the political nature of the posting you could expect have of people to support is strongly and half to oppose. I actually think that dueling moderation is good for the site. It shows a high level of interest in the posting. Isn't that the point?
What a load of BS - after all these years I'm beginning to think about dumping this forum as it's getting more and more crappy.
Look at my.sig. Some cockroach, who fancies himself a site 'moderator', climbed out of his hole and shut me down for 4 weeks because he thought I got downmodded too often. My karma value, whatever the hell that is, would have you think I was in good standing. I will never metamoderate again.
I mean, he states the shuttle was "deeply flawed". What would he have built? Kept shooting Apollo capsules up forever more? Built an Apollo 2? And if the ISS isn't in a good orbit, what orbit would he prefer? And additionally, how were we supposed to know the Shuttle wasn't a solid idea, until we had actually built a few and tested them operationally?
After nearly 35 years imagine how the original Apollo design might have evolved? We might be on the 10th iteration! The ISS orbits sucks because it is highly inclined and low altitude. Highly inclined orbits are less accessable from low latitude launch sites (thanks Russia). Throw in the new lighting requirements for the Space Shuttle and you have absurdly few launch opportunities from the Cape. The low altitude of the station results in the need for frequent reboost due to atmospheric drag. It is also of marginal use in earth remote sensing because there is no global coverage.
I do agree that a shuttle-like vehicle has great R&D value. Perhaps a smaller reusable vehicle could have been built that integrated smoothly with Apollo launch capabilities.
It seems to me he's just trying to ride the wave of popular opinion that says the shuttle must go and the ISS isn't interesting.
Better that than ride the wave of mindless groupthink that left the US without a space architecture. Now that there is a negative (and richly deserved) feeding frenzy against shuttle/ISS lets make sure we kill the beast!
Apple is currently the most innovative computer company around, with an operating system that makes the current market leader look like a dinosaur. The fact that a quarter of their profit comes from a damn mp3 player is just sad.
I share the same high opinion of Apple innovation. What is sad is that you don't see iPod/ITunes as just an MP3 player but the first digital media service where a technology company/media industry/customer all win. Apple has succeeded where Sony, M$, Real, and many others have failed miserably.
your right, we should definitely be hoping for another ice age.
Most of countries who bellow loudest about global warming (Canada, Scandanavia, Germany, France) would cease to exist in the next ice age. That's reason alone to fight global warming!
It is interesting that the NYT is now dispensing advice on how to fix flood control problems in New Orleans when they have a long record of recommending against improvements. They will argue all sides of an issue if it suits their political agenda, but they have no credibility.
Let me introduce you to one of the greatest mysteries of our time: After more than 20 years of research, development and competition in the field of HCI, not one single leading operating system developing company has come up with an OS that utilizes the four corners of the screen.
This guy seems to have introduced the dubious "innovation" of corner buttons on the desktop. Seems like workspaces warmed over. Big deal. I'll imitate them on my WindowMaker desktop this afternoon. I think he misuses the term OS. He should use "desktop" instead. It is rare to see developers today pursuing the chimera of the perfect UI. This guy is an exception. Still, nothing wrong with new ideas, even if they are minimal.
Here's the thing. I am currently posting this message as I sit at my desk in this [rochester.edu] building.
Thanks for saving me from having to point out that there is nothing new, novel, or original in the proposed facility. RIT has been doing this for 2 decades.
Read this article [cnn.com] by CNN that contrasts what Bush administration officials are saying versus the realities on the ground.
You berate the original poster because he cites anonymous sources, then you cite CNN, the ultimate left wing shill. LOL! You should ask yourself why you hate your country so much as to wish for the failure of its noble mission in Iraq.
Perhaps when it is rebuilt it is done right and will be able to withstand a major hurricane as well as any other city might.
It is not clear that New Orleans will should be completely rebuilt. A majority of homes, particularly in low income areas in the east, are not insured against flooding. Where will the funding come from? The inhibitants would be a lot better off elsewhere, above sea level. New Orleans' levy system is clearly inadequate. It seems to me if it is going to be upgraded some better decisions must be made about what parts of the city should be protected. Then it should be engineered to actual protect them, not be there for looks.
Even if you don't appreciate culture and history, at least you might consider your increased gas prices. Wars have been started for these types of things:)
Locals in every corner of the country are convinced of the same thing. Fact is the French Quarter has become a cheap attraction and a charactature of itself. The St. Charles district is ok. I think Savannah or Charleston are nicer. The food is overrated. The city wallows in proverty, crime, and violence.
Eweek reports that T-Mobile is offering free Wi-Fi to areas affected by Hurricane Katrina.
Well, I can't imagine the offer is as welcome by the locals as bottled water, or a few porto-lets would be. Perhaps T-Mobile thinks websurfing will occupy the homeless who would otherwise be looting. Ofcourse they have no power or computers. What are these idiots thinking?
President Bush also cut NASA funding. They can't even get the shuttle into space without it falling to bits, despite a $1bn re-fit.
The fact that we are even debating the post shuttle/ISS space program is a credit to President Bush. The 'failure' to fix the space shuttle is illusory. The shuttle performs consistent with its design. It's just that the design can never be safer than 1 failure in 100 launches. First it was the SRB O-rings, then frayed wiring, and latest ET foam. If it keeps flying some other problem will reveal itself.
There are many things that you (the Slashdot community) really DO NOT KNOW or UNDERSTAND.
When common sense and logic fail, lawyers and judges always have elitism to fall back. Reform of US patent law is inevitable. The slashdot mob is right on on this issue.
Tests performed on monkeys that were subjected to 30-36 hours of sleep deprivation revealed an average test performance accuracy drop to 63 percent, but that performance was restored to 84 percent after administering CX717.
Mountain Dew or Amphetamines have the same effect. Does the new drug put the brain through the same 'regenerative process' as sleep, whatever that is? Can't say I am happy to hear that monkeys are being derived of sleep. Animal research like this is pretty repugnamt.
I think this is a positive development for GNU proponents. For too long users have been incorrectly refering to their GNU based systems which run the Linux kernel as 'Linux' systems. Now that people must honor the Linux trademark they will be careful to refer to the kernel by that name not the whole system. GNU based systems will be recognised as the federated systems they really are.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I guess I was fishing more for the mathematics of natural selection and specialization within biological systems. It seems to me that after over 100 years that evolutionary theory should be on more firm mathematical footing.
Some of the scientists involved are saying its more of an art instead of a science due to its 'biohacking' style of experimentation.
Much of biological science consists hacking, trial and error, dubious statistics, and manipulating life with cheap tricks and without deep understanding. I'm glad to hear scientists call as such. Given the daunting complexity of the subject matter, it is not surprising. But I wonder if there is there a deeper 'theory' of biology analogous to least action principles in physics, that could be illuminated by mathematics? Any biochemists or geneticists care to comment?
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Mankind's future in computing must build on immoveable foundations of theory and logic if it is to progress into a realm where machines of IQs in the millions work at our behest. Advocating some sort of ad hoc "practical" computing barbarism is very short-sighted, dangerous, and regressive.
Too bad there are no such foundation
Proton is plenty reliable, but it won't be ever man-rated because of poisonous fuel (geptyl).
I don't now what is required for 'man-rating'. The Space Shuttle is man-rated yet passengers have roulette wheel odds of dying horribly on any given flight. The Gemini Titan and Space Shuttle both carry Nitrogen Tetroxide, highly toxic and corrosive.
because otherwise they might, you know ... design another one, maybe?
The Russians are reputed to be practical. It is obvious they are straining financially to build the Kliper. The idea they will develop a new clean sheet rocket design instead of adapt an existing does not make sense. It has certainly not been in the news.
2. The vehicle will be launch on top of a Russian launch vehicle.
Which vehicle? I doubt if a proton is reliable enough. Since this is larger and heavier than the Soyuz it does not seem that there is a rocket in the Russian inventory that can orbit it, much less send it to the moon.
I point out that the NYT has ridiculed New Orleans levee upgrades and pork barrel spending on their opinion pages in the past. I don't think they should opine the opposite view now that the levee gave way. Just because Fox pointed out the inconsistency does not make it any less factual. You may not like my politics. From your reply I deduce you are a leftist wimp. Effective moderation will encourage serious views from the left and right. It does not currently do that. Have a nice day comrade.
Here my post that triggered the timeout event. Admittedly, due to the political nature of the posting you could expect have of people to support is strongly and half to oppose. I actually think that dueling moderation is good for the site. It shows a high level of interest in the posting. Isn't that the point?
What a load of BS - after all these years I'm beginning to think about dumping this forum as it's getting more and more crappy.
Look at my .sig. Some cockroach, who fancies himself a site 'moderator', climbed out of his hole and shut me down for 4 weeks because he thought I got downmodded too often. My karma value, whatever the hell that is, would have you think I was in good standing. I will never metamoderate again.
I mean, he states the shuttle was "deeply flawed". What would he have built? Kept shooting Apollo capsules up forever more? Built an Apollo 2? And if the ISS isn't in a good orbit, what orbit would he prefer? And additionally, how were we supposed to know the Shuttle wasn't a solid idea, until we had actually built a few and tested them operationally?
After nearly 35 years imagine how the original Apollo design might have evolved? We might be on the 10th iteration! The ISS orbits sucks because it is highly inclined and low altitude. Highly inclined orbits are less accessable from low latitude launch sites (thanks Russia). Throw in the new lighting requirements for the Space Shuttle and you have absurdly few launch opportunities from the Cape. The low altitude of the station results in the need for frequent reboost due to atmospheric drag. It is also of marginal use in earth remote sensing because there is no global coverage.
I do agree that a shuttle-like vehicle has great R&D value. Perhaps a smaller reusable vehicle could have been built that integrated smoothly with Apollo launch capabilities.
It seems to me he's just trying to ride the wave of popular opinion that says the shuttle must go and the ISS isn't interesting.
Better that than ride the wave of mindless groupthink that left the US without a space architecture. Now that there is a negative (and richly deserved) feeding frenzy against shuttle/ISS lets make sure we kill the beast!
Apple is currently the most innovative computer company around, with an operating system that makes the current market leader look like a dinosaur. The fact that a quarter of their profit comes from a damn mp3 player is just sad.
I share the same high opinion of Apple innovation. What is sad is that you don't see iPod/ITunes as just an MP3 player but the first digital media service where a technology company/media industry/customer all win. Apple has succeeded where Sony, M$, Real, and many others have failed miserably.
your right, we should definitely be hoping for another ice age.
Most of countries who bellow loudest about global warming (Canada, Scandanavia, Germany, France) would cease to exist in the next ice age. That's reason alone to fight global warming!
It is interesting that the NYT is now dispensing advice on how to fix flood control problems in New Orleans when they have a long record of recommending against improvements. They will argue all sides of an issue if it suits their political agenda, but they have no credibility.
Let me introduce you to one of the greatest mysteries of our time: After more than 20 years of research, development and competition in the field of HCI, not one single leading operating system developing company has come up with an OS that utilizes the four corners of the screen.
This guy seems to have introduced the dubious "innovation" of corner buttons on the desktop. Seems like workspaces warmed over. Big deal. I'll imitate them on my WindowMaker desktop this afternoon. I think he misuses the term OS. He should use "desktop" instead. It is rare to see developers today pursuing the chimera of the perfect UI. This guy is an exception. Still, nothing wrong with new ideas, even if they are minimal.
Here's the thing. I am currently posting this message as I sit at my desk in this [rochester.edu] building.
Thanks for saving me from having to point out that there is nothing new, novel, or original in the proposed facility. RIT has been doing this for 2 decades.
Read this article [cnn.com] by CNN that contrasts what Bush administration officials are saying versus the realities on the ground.
You berate the original poster because he cites anonymous sources, then you cite CNN, the ultimate left wing shill. LOL! You should ask yourself why you hate your country so much as to wish for the failure of its noble mission in Iraq.
WTF does this mean? I am an english speaker but not a US english speaker, is there some silly patriotic reference I should be getting here?
It means GNU/Linux systems are a union of separately developed parts. No nationalism or partisanship implied, nitwit.
Perhaps when it is rebuilt it is done right and will be able to withstand a major hurricane as well as any other city might.
It is not clear that New Orleans will should be completely rebuilt. A majority of homes, particularly in low income areas in the east, are not insured against flooding. Where will the funding come from? The inhibitants would be a lot better off elsewhere, above sea level. New Orleans' levy system is clearly inadequate. It seems to me if it is going to be upgraded some better decisions must be made about what parts of the city should be protected. Then it should be engineered to actual protect them, not be there for looks.
Even if you don't appreciate culture and history, at least you might consider your increased gas prices. Wars have been started for these types of things :)
Locals in every corner of the country are convinced of the same thing. Fact is the French Quarter has become a cheap attraction and a charactature of itself. The St. Charles district is ok. I think Savannah or Charleston are nicer. The food is overrated. The city wallows in proverty, crime, and violence.
Eweek reports that T-Mobile is offering free Wi-Fi to areas affected by Hurricane Katrina.
Well, I can't imagine the offer is as welcome by the locals as bottled water, or a few porto-lets would be. Perhaps T-Mobile thinks websurfing will occupy the homeless who would otherwise be looting. Ofcourse they have no power or computers. What are these idiots thinking?
President Bush also cut NASA funding. They can't even get the shuttle into space without it falling to bits, despite a $1bn re-fit.
The fact that we are even debating the post shuttle/ISS space program is a credit to President Bush. The 'failure' to fix the space shuttle is illusory. The shuttle performs consistent with its design. It's just that the design can never be safer than 1 failure in 100 launches. First it was the SRB O-rings, then frayed wiring, and latest ET foam. If it keeps flying some other problem will reveal itself.
There are many things that you (the Slashdot community) really DO NOT KNOW or UNDERSTAND.
When common sense and logic fail, lawyers and judges always have elitism to fall back. Reform of US patent law is inevitable. The slashdot mob is right on on this issue.
I'm sure there is a witty comment to make about the fact that the very first word in the article summary is wrong...
You're right. They should have said GNU/Linux.
It takes a lot of "balls" to try to compete with such a larger population technologically
Not really. That is why we have cluster bombs.
Tests performed on monkeys that were subjected to 30-36 hours of sleep deprivation revealed an average test performance accuracy drop to 63 percent, but that performance was restored to 84 percent after administering CX717.
Mountain Dew or Amphetamines have the same effect. Does the new drug put the brain through the same 'regenerative process' as sleep, whatever that is? Can't say I am happy to hear that monkeys are being derived of sleep. Animal research like this is pretty repugnamt.
I think this is a positive development for GNU proponents. For too long users have been incorrectly refering to their GNU based systems which run the Linux kernel as 'Linux' systems. Now that people must honor the Linux trademark they will be careful to refer to the kernel by that name not the whole system. GNU based systems will be recognised as the federated systems they really are.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I guess I was fishing more for the mathematics of natural selection and specialization within biological systems. It seems to me that after over 100 years that evolutionary theory should be on more firm mathematical footing.
Some of the scientists involved are saying its more of an art instead of a science due to its 'biohacking' style of experimentation.
Much of biological science consists hacking, trial and error, dubious statistics, and manipulating life with cheap tricks and without deep understanding. I'm glad to hear scientists call as such. Given the daunting complexity of the subject matter, it is not surprising. But I wonder if there is there a deeper 'theory' of biology analogous to least action principles in physics, that could be illuminated by mathematics? Any biochemists or geneticists care to comment?
What's stopping you from continuing to use Perl5 after Perl6 is out? Nothing...
Great solution; typical slashdot advice. I can hardly wait for Perl7, Perl8... Retard.