Illustrator has supported SVG for years. Adobe was one of the main companies behind SVGs creation. They completely dropped it when they bought Macromedia.
SVG was infact, Adobe's plan to compete with Macromedia until they purchased them.
Since then, Adobe has made it VERY clear they have no intention of supporting web standards, everything they do for the web is a proprietary version of an open standard. I don't think adobe did any of it first, unless you include postscript and pdf.
They do care what you prefer, because if you don't prefer their proprietary environments you won't have to have their tools, someone else's tools can be made to work as well if not better.
Finally, SVG support in browsers sucks complete ass. No browser renders anything more than the most basic SVGs properly. Add animation or interactivity too it and you are in for a freaking world of pain. The only real way to use SVGs in a browser is to use something like Apache Batik as a java applet to embed the SVG, otherwise you're not going to do much more than draw some lines and colored shapes, maybe embed an existing bitmap image.
He might have a point if Valve really had a monopoly. If they because the only way to do digital distribution, ok maybe a problem. However, that's not the case. My personal favourite for digital games is Stardock's Impulse (impulsedriven.com). Same idea basic as Steam. What I like about it is it is better on DRM. They don't apply their own DRM to all games, so some have none at all. Others use Impulse GOO, which is kinda like Steamworks but you don't have to be logged in or run the client, others use 3rd party DRM like on Steam.
I agree, Steam isn't a monopoly, and there are are better (in my opinion) alternatives that have some of the exact same games.
I've bought from Steam, Impulse and Direct2Drive specifically as well as a few other self distributors. So far, Impulse is my favorite, especially for items that they will sell you a box/cd and the download for a few bucks more. Direct2Drive is fine, but you have to pay extra to make sure you can redownload it later. I understand to some extent, you have to pay to get replacement cd's from pretty much anyone, if you can find someone to help you do so. Steam is okay except its constant requirement to talk to servers and that I can't transfer a game to another account, which aren't problems with Impulse.
Clearly there is competition here, Steam has some shitty policies, feel free to bitch about them and shop elsewhere, Steam will either fix it, or have some other reason they own the marketplace or they simply won't own the marketplace, like now.
Steam, Impulse and Direct2Drive are just examples of the Targets, Walmarts and Kmarts of the Internet, just retail stores, although they haven't worked out the details as well as the brick and mortor counterparts.
You can bitch about them about the same way as you can bitch about BestBuy and Walmarts practices, but calling them a monopoly is just silly.
Being silly is a valid slashdot headline/summary however.
I don't recall Bush promoting little boy rapping bastards as 'culture minister'.
If you get Obama in 2012 it'll be awesome, your government's political parties will have a majority so powerful there is no way anyone can stop them from doing what they want, and yet nothing will continue to get done because they can't agree with themselves.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the actual politics in America, but Obama's presidency and the Democrat majority in congress has been nothing short of a joke. They have their entire team in office, everything is under their control, and they still can't get anything useful actually accomplished.
Yes, and I can confirm that it does indeed suck. Its not just the politicians, most of the general public can be considered a bunch of douchebags as well.
Survival of the fittest. We're going to need their lands to grow crops on since we apparently can't keep our dicks in our pants long enough to breed at a reasonable rate.
he is presenting a far better image to the rest of the world than has been done in the past decade
So he should get the award because he's better at lying or because we just haven't given him enough time to hang himself?
America is rather disconnected from war, so people who make comments like 'incite the US to civil war' are generally ones who have absolutely no clue what war really is. Even now, with a 'war' as its being called in two different countries, Americans have no idea. We lose as many if not more soldiers in training accidents during peace time as we've lost in our two current wars, and people are freaked out about it.
Most Americans now days are so spoiled I'm pretty sure more than half of us would just mentally shutdown and ignore the world around us if we were actually involved in a real war with someone.
Hate to point it out to you, but the 'what the hell for' is coming from just about everyone, supporters of him as well, are saying 'I voted for him, but what the fuck?!', not just the 'lunatic fringes'
I'll bite... what has been accomplished? What has Obama done to change the world and promote peace?
Go ahead, google for it, I'll wait while you try to find something.
Al Gore won based on the exact same thing Obama has won on, ignorant morons making the selection based on political agenda.
Obama was nominated 2 weeks into his presidency, before he'd even got the chair in the oval office warm yet. This has nothing to do with what he accomplished, if you think it does you need to get a seeing eye dog or uncover your eyes because you're completely blind.
1. They are proclaiming it to be open source, which is deceptive. It's "open source" except where it matters (device drivers/modules) from a maintainability perspective.
Your statement is in fact deceptive and skewed. You are buying hardware with a lot of proprietary technology in it. I'm sure there are at least a hundred different proprietary components in the device. The device is not open source, it does however, run some open source software. It does not run OSS exclusively.
Their employees are astroturfing
No shit? There is no business anywhere on the planet that doesn't do this in one form of or another. Not that they aren't being deceptive bastards, but come on, if you don't expect this sort of thing on the companies own website, you're an idiot and deserve to get ripped off. You expect them to point out all the flaws of their products for you, tell you everything wrong with themselves? Do you do that when dating?
Releasing open source drivers does not in any way reveal your chip mask and hardware architecture. Atheros' real competitors have access to electron microscopes and everything else it takes to buy a router off the shelf and copy chips exactly; simply keeping the drivers closed is not going to deter, say, realtek or broadcom in the slightest.
Most of these things use rather common hardware from other vendors anyway, netgear doesn't really care if you sneak a peak at the broadcom chip or see the die of the ARM processor. The do care a little bit more about some custom tweaks they've found to make it all work together a little better than someone else. Its funny that you accept all of the rest of the device being massively proprietary, yet demand all of the source to the software.
That seems rather silly to me. I guess you don't care because you couldn't do anything yourself with the hardware designs? Otherwise pretty much every argument you have for why it should be open source is the exact same for the hardware.
Isn't whole the MONO effort diverting developers from developing native Linux applications?
No, the only way I will write 'Linux applications' is when someone pays me to do so, they are useless to me, I don't run Linux.
I will however work on Mono because it runs on my servers, all of them, Solaris, FreeBSD and Windows. I work on Mono because I want to. If there were no Mono I would work on something else, but I wouldn't be working on a Linux application.
One of the cool things about OSS is that we don't all have to work on software for the same reason in order for it to help everyone. I don't have to use Linux in order for Linux users to benefit from my work on Mono. I don't work on OSS projects that help Linux because you want to make Linux better. I work on OSS projects that I want to make better, and if it benefits you (via Linux) then great, you get something out of it that you wouldn't if that project didn't exist (Mono in this case)
So no, Mono isn't diverting developers from Linux, its bringing more TO Linux. Of course its bringing more to Solaris, FreeBSD, Windows and other platforms as well.
Stop being so greedy and wanting all developers to believe what you believe, its not going to be happen. Be happy that you have developers who are willing to share with you in order help each other out, even though we have different targets and goals.
There's only so many crimes against humanity anyone can commit before they can no longer be redeemed.
Holy shit Batman, do you hear what you are saying?
They ARE JUST A SOFTWARE COMPANY!
They can't actually ruin your life. They really can't FORCE you to do anything.
We're not talking about genocide here, lets keep things in some sort of sane perspective.
You can end MS "tyranny" very easy. Stop using their products. Period. Really, thats it. You don't actually have to have them to survive.
You can, in fact, never use a computer and still survive and function.
You have to be really fucking spoiled to make the comparison you just made, I'd hate to see you having to deal with an actual problem in your life.
You, from your statements, are completely out of touch with reality, just like Stallman himself. You've elevated crap like 'licensing agreements' to the same level as 'genocide'. You treat Microsoft as if they've detonated a nuclear bomb in the heart of a peaceful city.
You sir, need a tall glass of perspective and soda.
A lot of people dislike Stallman and his positions, but even his biggest detractors have to admit that he's a principled man. You know where RMS stands on issues before he even comments on them because he's had a consistent message for a few decades now.
Yes, he is principled. So are most other terrorist, which is all he is, just not the usual form used to invoke fear.
RMS is an extremist. Pick his side if you must, but watch over time as his cult gets smaller and smaller. The only people who 'follow' him are angst ridden teenagers and those too fascinated with him to actually listen to how insane he sounds on a regular basis.
He may have started out preaching the right idea, but he has been a complete nut job for almost 10 years now.
He has made some predictions that have come true. He has made far more that haven't come true, I don't find that the least bit impressive. He's a bag of hot air, and while at one more he may have been 'on the right side', he is now well out of bounds of rationality.
If you follow that douchebag for your stock tips, you'll just end up broke, having spent all your hard earned money purchasing stocks which you promptly give away to everyone else.
I'm sorry, Stallman would probably be the worst person on the planet to listen to for stock market advice, directly or indirectly.
You should listen to him, and make sure to avoid any company he thinks is going to do well.
Which is why my machines disable their builtin firewall when connected to the in office lan or wifi, and automatically enable their firewall to block all incoming remote hosts when not on the office lan.
We resolved that problem like 4 versions of windows ago.
It's like blaming AT&T for not having DNS entries from OpenDNS.
No its more like AT&T saying:
When someone tries to lookup www.yourdomain.com, we're going to send an NXDOMAIN rather than forwarding the request to the root servers... or if the rootservers say the authoritive for yourdomain.com has an IP we don't like, we're going to return NXDOMAIN
Verizon has to go out of their way to block other routable addresses in the BGP tables from being usable on their network. BGP is designed to relay the information by default, you have to add on restrictions to what gets shared after the fact.
In this case, Verizon (and anyone else doing this) 'taking a stand' translates DIRECTLY to 'Verizon is acting like a bunch of douchebags'
Even though it was definitely not a trivial task to make both ATI Catalyst or Nvidia ForceWare drivers or Nvidia PhysX system software work on the same system at the same time in order to run graphics rendering on ATI Radeon and PhysX on Nvidia GeForce or Ageia PhysX physics processing unit, some people could still use such a configuration.
So by admission of the arthur of the article, it takes hacking to do in the first place, to even get the devices to play nicely... so rather than listen to a bunch of people who want to try this never supported configuration (I seriously doubt ATI would give you tech support if you asked them with this configuration either), they are just going to prevent it completely.
As a developer, I understand entirely what they are doing. Rather than allow people to do something half assed and get complaints about it, they'll just remove the functionality completely and cut down on support costs, regardless of how trivial/. thinks they are.
This effects a statistically irrelevant number of people anyway, not everyone can have their way. I'd love to run FreeBSD on an 8 bit AVR microcontroller, but the FBSD project doesn't seem to think its worth the effort... nor does anyone want to make Linux work on it (Lack of an MMU puts a dent in anything sane)... I should go after Linus and JKH for anti-trust!%@!^#$^!@#^!@#^!@#6
Its anti-consumer, but that doesn't trigger an anti-trust charge, they don't have a monopoly.
Why does everyone scream like its illegal when a company does something they don't like? Unless they are king of the hill and using their powers to force others into capitulating with them, its not an issue for the courts. You don't have to buy nVidia. You don't have to use PhysX. You don't have to buy a Voodoo 3 card. Sure a game may only support one of the above, but thats not something that justifies going after nVidia unless they owned the market.
I don't have any affiliation with the project other than I've used it in my homegrown game engine that has never left my hard drive. It is however rather easy to use. When I was looking for a physics engine, Bullet turned out to be the best license, code base, and documentation set out there for no cost.
Forth most visited website? I'd never heard of it until you posted about it, maybe its your forth most visited website, but I don't really think it goes much beyond that.
QEMM was an extended memory manager, Quarterdeck Extended Memory Manager as a matter of fact. MS did come up with its own, mostly compatible version which you might know as HIMEM.SYS.
QEMM includes a utility much like memmaker, but that was not what you bought QEMM for. QEMM's variant of memmaker relied on certain features of DOS that MS added to facilitate its operation, such as moving device drivers into specific regions of upper memory. MS later took advantage of those same features with memmaker, in the next revision of DOS if I recall correctly. Its safe to bet that MS had planned to stab Quarterdeck in the back when adding the features to DOS in the first place to allow QEMM to do what it did, thats a pretty typical strategy, and not just for MS.
Same way they always do if they want to be sure, breathing.
My understanding is that its harder to detect a weak pulse than it is a weak breath. Probably look into the eyes. Just because the guys on ER and your CPR instructor say to check for a pulse doesn't mean its the only way to tell. A more gruesome check would be to simply slice a vein and see if blood comes out:)
We are in dire need of an eqiuvalent to the Arduino platform in the PDA market.
There have been a couple recently. The OpenMoko and Android devices are pretty freak'n open.
Heres the catch though, people don't actually want that. YOU may want that, normal users don't give a shit, they want stuff that works. 'Open' isn't part of the equation, when will people start to understand that?
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Illustrator has supported SVG for years. Adobe was one of the main companies behind SVGs creation. They completely dropped it when they bought Macromedia.
SVG was infact, Adobe's plan to compete with Macromedia until they purchased them.
Since then, Adobe has made it VERY clear they have no intention of supporting web standards, everything they do for the web is a proprietary version of an open standard. I don't think adobe did any of it first, unless you include postscript and pdf.
They do care what you prefer, because if you don't prefer their proprietary environments you won't have to have their tools, someone else's tools can be made to work as well if not better.
Finally, SVG support in browsers sucks complete ass. No browser renders anything more than the most basic SVGs properly. Add animation or interactivity too it and you are in for a freaking world of pain. The only real way to use SVGs in a browser is to use something like Apache Batik as a java applet to embed the SVG, otherwise you're not going to do much more than draw some lines and colored shapes, maybe embed an existing bitmap image.
I agree, Steam isn't a monopoly, and there are are better (in my opinion) alternatives that have some of the exact same games.
I've bought from Steam, Impulse and Direct2Drive specifically as well as a few other self distributors. So far, Impulse is my favorite, especially for items that they will sell you a box/cd and the download for a few bucks more. Direct2Drive is fine, but you have to pay extra to make sure you can redownload it later. I understand to some extent, you have to pay to get replacement cd's from pretty much anyone, if you can find someone to help you do so. Steam is okay except its constant requirement to talk to servers and that I can't transfer a game to another account, which aren't problems with Impulse.
Clearly there is competition here, Steam has some shitty policies, feel free to bitch about them and shop elsewhere, Steam will either fix it, or have some other reason they own the marketplace or they simply won't own the marketplace, like now.
Steam, Impulse and Direct2Drive are just examples of the Targets, Walmarts and Kmarts of the Internet, just retail stores, although they haven't worked out the details as well as the brick and mortor counterparts.
You can bitch about them about the same way as you can bitch about BestBuy and Walmarts practices, but calling them a monopoly is just silly.
Being silly is a valid slashdot headline/summary however.
I don't recall Bush promoting little boy rapping bastards as 'culture minister'.
If you get Obama in 2012 it'll be awesome, your government's political parties will have a majority so powerful there is no way anyone can stop them from doing what they want, and yet nothing will continue to get done because they can't agree with themselves.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the actual politics in America, but Obama's presidency and the Democrat majority in congress has been nothing short of a joke. They have their entire team in office, everything is under their control, and they still can't get anything useful actually accomplished.
Yes, and I can confirm that it does indeed suck. Its not just the politicians, most of the general public can be considered a bunch of douchebags as well.
Have YOU ever even been to France?
Survival of the fittest. We're going to need their lands to grow crops on since we apparently can't keep our dicks in our pants long enough to breed at a reasonable rate.
So he should get the award because he's better at lying or because we just haven't given him enough time to hang himself?
America is rather disconnected from war, so people who make comments like 'incite the US to civil war' are generally ones who have absolutely no clue what war really is. Even now, with a 'war' as its being called in two different countries, Americans have no idea. We lose as many if not more soldiers in training accidents during peace time as we've lost in our two current wars, and people are freaked out about it.
Most Americans now days are so spoiled I'm pretty sure more than half of us would just mentally shutdown and ignore the world around us if we were actually involved in a real war with someone.
Hate to point it out to you, but the 'what the hell for' is coming from just about everyone, supporters of him as well, are saying 'I voted for him, but what the fuck?!', not just the 'lunatic fringes'
I'll bite ... what has been accomplished? What has Obama done to change the world and promote peace?
Go ahead, google for it, I'll wait while you try to find something.
Al Gore won based on the exact same thing Obama has won on, ignorant morons making the selection based on political agenda.
Obama was nominated 2 weeks into his presidency, before he'd even got the chair in the oval office warm yet. This has nothing to do with what he accomplished, if you think it does you need to get a seeing eye dog or uncover your eyes because you're completely blind.
So basically, you're saying Netgear should fix others broken software to run on their hardware or not claim they support OSS?
The don't support OSS unless they fix the problems with other people's OSS software?
What
The
Fuck?
So Netgear is responsible for the fact that a third party distribution is lacking?
I suppose I'm to blame because you are a moron?
Your statement is in fact deceptive and skewed. You are buying hardware with a lot of proprietary technology in it. I'm sure there are at least a hundred different proprietary components in the device. The device is not open source, it does however, run some open source software. It does not run OSS exclusively.
No shit? There is no business anywhere on the planet that doesn't do this in one form of or another. Not that they aren't being deceptive bastards, but come on, if you don't expect this sort of thing on the companies own website, you're an idiot and deserve to get ripped off. You expect them to point out all the flaws of their products for you, tell you everything wrong with themselves? Do you do that when dating?
Most of these things use rather common hardware from other vendors anyway, netgear doesn't really care if you sneak a peak at the broadcom chip or see the die of the ARM processor. The do care a little bit more about some custom tweaks they've found to make it all work together a little better than someone else. Its funny that you accept all of the rest of the device being massively proprietary, yet demand all of the source to the software.
That seems rather silly to me. I guess you don't care because you couldn't do anything yourself with the hardware designs? Otherwise pretty much every argument you have for why it should be open source is the exact same for the hardware.
No, the only way I will write 'Linux applications' is when someone pays me to do so, they are useless to me, I don't run Linux.
I will however work on Mono because it runs on my servers, all of them, Solaris, FreeBSD and Windows. I work on Mono because I want to. If there were no Mono I would work on something else, but I wouldn't be working on a Linux application.
One of the cool things about OSS is that we don't all have to work on software for the same reason in order for it to help everyone. I don't have to use Linux in order for Linux users to benefit from my work on Mono. I don't work on OSS projects that help Linux because you want to make Linux better. I work on OSS projects that I want to make better, and if it benefits you (via Linux) then great, you get something out of it that you wouldn't if that project didn't exist (Mono in this case)
So no, Mono isn't diverting developers from Linux, its bringing more TO Linux. Of course its bringing more to Solaris, FreeBSD, Windows and other platforms as well.
Stop being so greedy and wanting all developers to believe what you believe, its not going to be happen. Be happy that you have developers who are willing to share with you in order help each other out, even though we have different targets and goals.
Never had a history class eh?
You know, because MS is the first company/person ever to call something names only to embrace it later. You do know that things change right?
6 year old boy: girls have cooties, stay away
16 year old boy: god I want to get some of her cooties
Translate as need if you are female or gay, I don't claim to know those thought patterns but I'd be willing to bet they are pretty similar.
Holy shit Batman, do you hear what you are saying?
They ARE JUST A SOFTWARE COMPANY!
They can't actually ruin your life. They really can't FORCE you to do anything.
We're not talking about genocide here, lets keep things in some sort of sane perspective.
You can end MS "tyranny" very easy. Stop using their products. Period. Really, thats it. You don't actually have to have them to survive.
You can, in fact, never use a computer and still survive and function.
You have to be really fucking spoiled to make the comparison you just made, I'd hate to see you having to deal with an actual problem in your life.
You, from your statements, are completely out of touch with reality, just like Stallman himself. You've elevated crap like 'licensing agreements' to the same level as 'genocide'. You treat Microsoft as if they've detonated a nuclear bomb in the heart of a peaceful city.
You sir, need a tall glass of perspective and soda.
Yes, he is principled. So are most other terrorist, which is all he is, just not the usual form used to invoke fear.
RMS is an extremist. Pick his side if you must, but watch over time as his cult gets smaller and smaller. The only people who 'follow' him are angst ridden teenagers and those too fascinated with him to actually listen to how insane he sounds on a regular basis.
He may have started out preaching the right idea, but he has been a complete nut job for almost 10 years now.
He has made some predictions that have come true. He has made far more that haven't come true, I don't find that the least bit impressive. He's a bag of hot air, and while at one more he may have been 'on the right side', he is now well out of bounds of rationality.
If you follow that douchebag for your stock tips, you'll just end up broke, having spent all your hard earned money purchasing stocks which you promptly give away to everyone else.
I'm sorry, Stallman would probably be the worst person on the planet to listen to for stock market advice, directly or indirectly.
You should listen to him, and make sure to avoid any company he thinks is going to do well.
Which is why my machines disable their builtin firewall when connected to the in office lan or wifi, and automatically enable their firewall to block all incoming remote hosts when not on the office lan.
We resolved that problem like 4 versions of windows ago.
No its more like AT&T saying:
When someone tries to lookup www.yourdomain.com, we're going to send an NXDOMAIN rather than forwarding the request to the root servers ... or if the rootservers say the authoritive for yourdomain.com has an IP we don't like, we're going to return NXDOMAIN
Verizon has to go out of their way to block other routable addresses in the BGP tables from being usable on their network. BGP is designed to relay the information by default, you have to add on restrictions to what gets shared after the fact.
In this case, Verizon (and anyone else doing this) 'taking a stand' translates DIRECTLY to 'Verizon is acting like a bunch of douchebags'
So by admission of the arthur of the article, it takes hacking to do in the first place, to even get the devices to play nicely ... so rather than listen to a bunch of people who want to try this never supported configuration (I seriously doubt ATI would give you tech support if you asked them with this configuration either), they are just going to prevent it completely.
As a developer, I understand entirely what they are doing. Rather than allow people to do something half assed and get complaints about it, they'll just remove the functionality completely and cut down on support costs, regardless of how trivial /. thinks they are.
This effects a statistically irrelevant number of people anyway, not everyone can have their way. I'd love to run FreeBSD on an 8 bit AVR microcontroller, but the FBSD project doesn't seem to think its worth the effort ... nor does anyone want to make Linux work on it (Lack of an MMU puts a dent in anything sane) ... I should go after Linus and JKH for anti-trust!%@!^#$^!@#^!@#^!@#6
my god shut up you freaking whiner douchebags
Its anti-consumer, but that doesn't trigger an anti-trust charge, they don't have a monopoly.
Why does everyone scream like its illegal when a company does something they don't like? Unless they are king of the hill and using their powers to force others into capitulating with them, its not an issue for the courts. You don't have to buy nVidia. You don't have to use PhysX. You don't have to buy a Voodoo 3 card. Sure a game may only support one of the above, but thats not something that justifies going after nVidia unless they owned the market.
http://www.bulletphysics.com/
I don't have any affiliation with the project other than I've used it in my homegrown game engine that has never left my hard drive. It is however rather easy to use. When I was looking for a physics engine, Bullet turned out to be the best license, code base, and documentation set out there for no cost.
Forth most visited website? I'd never heard of it until you posted about it, maybe its your forth most visited website, but I don't really think it goes much beyond that.
QEMM != MemMaker
QEMM was an extended memory manager, Quarterdeck Extended Memory Manager as a matter of fact. MS did come up with its own, mostly compatible version which you might know as HIMEM.SYS.
QEMM includes a utility much like memmaker, but that was not what you bought QEMM for. QEMM's variant of memmaker relied on certain features of DOS that MS added to facilitate its operation, such as moving device drivers into specific regions of upper memory. MS later took advantage of those same features with memmaker, in the next revision of DOS if I recall correctly. Its safe to bet that MS had planned to stab Quarterdeck in the back when adding the features to DOS in the first place to allow QEMM to do what it did, thats a pretty typical strategy, and not just for MS.
Just felt the need to correct a few specifics.
Same way they always do if they want to be sure, breathing.
My understanding is that its harder to detect a weak pulse than it is a weak breath. Probably look into the eyes. Just because the guys on ER and your CPR instructor say to check for a pulse doesn't mean its the only way to tell. A more gruesome check would be to simply slice a vein and see if blood comes out :)
There have been a couple recently. The OpenMoko and Android devices are pretty freak'n open.
Heres the catch though, people don't actually want that. YOU may want that, normal users don't give a shit, they want stuff that works. 'Open' isn't part of the equation, when will people start to understand that?