Maybe I'm wrong... Just saw the screen captures and that's what it looked like.
Anyway, it would seem smart for Microsoft to bundle in a 'gimped' version of Windows because of their already wide adoption, helping the third world and poor countries get a leg up into becoming Windows developers only helps them in the long term.
I guess the next generation of kids will just be Linux gurus and facilitate our whole moves into Linux for the home and enterprise. Time will tell, but the OLPC project is something that is going to get a LOT of kids excited about being "into computers". I would think that Microsoft would be following suit. Giving away their OS isn't that big a deal since everybody in the third world pirates it anyway.
The point is when they are 17, they are ALLOWED to buy those games and do those things.
Until then, keep an eye -- it's not like you aren't going to see what TV they are watching or what games you are playing unless you're a horrible parent and ignore them entirely. If they are out getting a blowjob from some teenage girl that I wouldn't know about, that's OBVIOUS because they can hide that, but if they were getting games and playing them and I didn't notice, then I AM A BAD PARENT.
Because as we all know, the louder people yell and scream, ALONE -- the stupider they look.
Just ignore him and let him do whatever he wants -- it's almost a non-issue.
On a related note, if you are a parent whose child is buying things without your knowledge that you wouldn't approve of well.... you suck ass as a parent. Go shoot yourself now.
If there are dependent packages for a particular software, the package manager doesn't download those automatically. The names are cryptic sometimes and for the average user to know what GDK to download to get Firefox to work, is more trouble than it's worth.
Dependencies aren't bundled into any package manager. And if you download a program off of the web (say Firefox, because that's how you do it in Windows), then there's no way to install it with any amount of ease.
That's why I said click and run will be the best thing for Linux that I've seen in a long time. Now we just have to get all the distros to agree to use it, and it will be great. Otherwise we will continue to have collective snobbery of certain distros compared to others, and it's going to be only painful for Linux as a whole.
At this point you've already lost the 'average' user. On a desktop OS, you shouldn't HAVE to drop to the terminal for ANYTHING. Click and Run technology is going to be one of the biggest things to hit Linux, IF it's widely adopted. I understand that the ability is great to have all packages listed in a Yum repository or using apt-get, or whatever, but frankly... there's no simple way to download say, Firefox and install it off of the web. Trying to explain to a user how to uninstall the old version first, then making sure the main icon points to the NEW installation and not the old one is quite a task.
When Click and Run becomes a standard, and people follow the "double click --- next next next" mantra that makes Windows so easy to use, then will Linux start making inroads to the desktop. Until then, it's a nice OS with no real productive software that people know of (try explaining what Gimp is compared to Photoshop, or GAIM to their MSN). Beryl is another step to make inroads to the desktop.
Contrary to popular belief -- people LIKE pretty. User interface with Linux apps is sometimes an afterthought, because the community the produces the applications thinks of function over form. This is generally a good practice, but to the average user who likes pretty buttons and icons well... they will think it to be archaic.
A great example of this is using Lotus Notes compared to Outlook. It's like I welcomed myself back to 1975 when using it. I still get jealous when consultants come in and open their Outlook windows, and then I look at my archaic email and cringe.
Make it pretty, make it easy, they will come. Development on Linux isn't a lot more difficult than Windows, but the developer tools again, lack comparatively. The amount of free training Microsoft offers pales in comparison to what Linux offers. The Linux training is pricey, but very in depth. But nobody's going to send their employees to training for desktop application development in Linux, because it's useless.
I had a 6 digit ICQ number starting with "333".... and it's lost. I took pride in looking at that as my 'nerd' badge of honor since I was on the ICQ train so long before others.
Needless to say, I haven't used ICQ in a long time since then, and I won't be using it any time again.
Yes, I am complimenting Microsoft -- I am sure I'll be flamed for it. But frankly, they make the best office suite, and since theirs is the standard look and feel (although the new Office is a departure), the other guys have to play catchup.
I would love to use OpenOffice, I just hate the look and feel and have always been more comfortable in Microsoft Office.
At first I was tempted, doing very well in a private CS:S server on a daily (or almost) basis. I am pretty good at the game, I know the hiding spots and I use a bit of common sense. Being good with my 'twitch' skills doesn't hurt either.
However with that said.... cheaters are abounds in CS:S. Wall hacks, aimbots, etc. With an online tournament there are far too high risks of cheating. People won't use aimbots but they will wall hack, and just use that to avoid dying, rather than racking up the kills (if they are smart). You can be smart and not get detected, people just chalk it up to your being 'good', but in fact I know so many players who people think are just 'good' that have later been banned with VAC after they clamped down on the cheaters.
Anyway, until they can guarantee cheaters to not play, then I have no interest in playing. So I guess I'll never be playing.
Apple can't touch Microsoft until they develop enterprise level applications. I know in a nutshell, that it's maybe not the most popular thing to say on Slashdot (the Microsoft lovers we all are here!), but I feel it's true.
Microsoft offers businesses a 'suite' of products. One that complements another. You have Windows as a base. Then on top of that, you have Office (still the best in class -- for now). On top of Office, you run document collaboration with Sharepoint. You run form wizards with Infopath and further with Exchange. Then you can develop a.NET component that plugs into Exchange and Sharepoint, and does the work of both. Visual Studio.NET helps with that.
Okay, it's simplistic to be sure. But Apple has right now, OS X. And it's a great desktop OS -- better than Vista and FAR better than XP. Better than Linux too (though I'm putting on my flamesuit as we speak!).
For graphic designers and video editors, their home is on a Mac. The applications that are available like Final Cut and things like that are simply not available on the PC in the same form. Thus, in the corporate world those people in the marketing departments who design templates in Quark or Illustrator, or Photoshop, likely use a Mac. But the people who work with financial calculations, metering, forecasting, and even a lot of administration use Windows. It's because they need Excel to do their number crunching. They write VBA macros that are simple and easy to create to get their numbered 'modeled' to what they are looking for.
Apple doesn't have that ability yet. When a person comes home from work, familiarity is always a good selling point. Businesses will use whatever helps them to get the job done with the least amount of money and headache (time is a cost too). So when Bob comes home from forecasting the next quarter's sales model in Excel, a familiar home to him is a Windows machine.
The second obstacle is the open nature of PCs. While Windows is a closed operating system, you can use almost any hardware you like with it. Buy a motherboard, graphics card, and RAM... and you can do it yourself. If a new game comes out, and your PC is struggling with it... you can open it up, buy an off-the-shelf graphics card and boom! You're in business and the game runs faster. Until Apple offers this ability it's going to be difficult to convince people to go their route -- to a completely closed environment. Now I know you can do some upgrades on a Mac, but not to the extent of a PC. And frankly as time goes by, and we all know that this generation will be far more computer savvy than the previous generation, and the next one even more so -- that people are going to know more about open source (a big plus), more about general computing, and more about what bang you get for your buck.
Right now Dell sells you a full PC for $350 shipped, with a monitor. And most people buy Dells. Until we get to the point where Macs can be had whitebox for $350, I don't see them overtaking PCs any time soon. And besides, who's going to pay extra $650 if they are only surfing the web and checking email? Oh wait... I did:)
Same here... Vista has been very slow to copy files though I'm fortunate in the fact that I haven't had to do a whole lot of that. I am pretty happy with Vista otherwise... it runs quite well and I've no real issues aside from the new-teething niggles.
But this is why Microsoft is actually a good thing on the desktop market. I'm all for using different OSes, but the sheer number of applications available for a single OS (And in this case it happens to be Windows) is staggering compared to how bad it COULD have been had we had multiple OSes that were popular. It's expensive to develop cross platform support, which is why most companies will aim for the market that makes them the most money.
I'm still looking forward to Linux and Click and Run technology -- that is the first step of many needed to start surpassing Windows on the desktop.
I'm leading the charge on DST for my company and well.... let's just say that I manage over 350 servers with over 4000 users. It's going to be ugly though, if I do my job properly it should mean some good kudos afterwards:)
Being an enterprise administrator, is having to now use key management service to 'activate' Vista PCs. We have no plans to migrate any time soon, but when that time comes (another two years?) then I can guarantee tears will be shed.
Every other enterprise admin says the same thing, they dread when they have to migrate because of activation problems.
I've joked with them about setting up a public KMS (like the china one) so we make it easier amongst ourselves.
VB100 is a certification. Either you get it, or you don't. NOD32 has always gotten it for as long as I can remember. Norton, McAfee, etc... they've missed it multiple times.
When you have the ability to offer Unlimited Broadband that is in fact, limited to 200GB -- how do you expect commercial adoption of any major technologies by the US when everybody is trying to make pennies on bandwith? Even more stupidly, do people not realize that vast broadband adoption and usage only expand our economy as a whole, and give us the ability to compete in markets we currently do not. Look at South Korea for this example.
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Maybe I'm wrong... Just saw the screen captures and that's what it looked like.
Anyway, it would seem smart for Microsoft to bundle in a 'gimped' version of Windows because of their already wide adoption, helping the third world and poor countries get a leg up into becoming Windows developers only helps them in the long term.
I guess the next generation of kids will just be Linux gurus and facilitate our whole moves into Linux for the home and enterprise. Time will tell, but the OLPC project is something that is going to get a LOT of kids excited about being "into computers". I would think that Microsoft would be following suit. Giving away their OS isn't that big a deal since everybody in the third world pirates it anyway.
The point is when they are 17, they are ALLOWED to buy those games and do those things.
Until then, keep an eye -- it's not like you aren't going to see what TV they are watching or what games you are playing unless you're a horrible parent and ignore them entirely. If they are out getting a blowjob from some teenage girl that I wouldn't know about, that's OBVIOUS because they can hide that, but if they were getting games and playing them and I didn't notice, then I AM A BAD PARENT.
And I should shoot myself too.
Because as we all know, the louder people yell and scream, ALONE -- the stupider they look.
Just ignore him and let him do whatever he wants -- it's almost a non-issue.
On a related note, if you are a parent whose child is buying things without your knowledge that you wouldn't approve of well.... you suck ass as a parent. Go shoot yourself now.
If there are dependent packages for a particular software, the package manager doesn't download those automatically. The names are cryptic sometimes and for the average user to know what GDK to download to get Firefox to work, is more trouble than it's worth.
Dependencies aren't bundled into any package manager. And if you download a program off of the web (say Firefox, because that's how you do it in Windows), then there's no way to install it with any amount of ease.
That's why I said click and run will be the best thing for Linux that I've seen in a long time. Now we just have to get all the distros to agree to use it, and it will be great. Otherwise we will continue to have collective snobbery of certain distros compared to others, and it's going to be only painful for Linux as a whole.
"Drop to a terminal window".
At this point you've already lost the 'average' user. On a desktop OS, you shouldn't HAVE to drop to the terminal for ANYTHING. Click and Run technology is going to be one of the biggest things to hit Linux, IF it's widely adopted. I understand that the ability is great to have all packages listed in a Yum repository or using apt-get, or whatever, but frankly... there's no simple way to download say, Firefox and install it off of the web. Trying to explain to a user how to uninstall the old version first, then making sure the main icon points to the NEW installation and not the old one is quite a task.
When Click and Run becomes a standard, and people follow the "double click --- next next next" mantra that makes Windows so easy to use, then will Linux start making inroads to the desktop. Until then, it's a nice OS with no real productive software that people know of (try explaining what Gimp is compared to Photoshop, or GAIM to their MSN). Beryl is another step to make inroads to the desktop.
Contrary to popular belief -- people LIKE pretty. User interface with Linux apps is sometimes an afterthought, because the community the produces the applications thinks of function over form. This is generally a good practice, but to the average user who likes pretty buttons and icons well... they will think it to be archaic.
A great example of this is using Lotus Notes compared to Outlook. It's like I welcomed myself back to 1975 when using it. I still get jealous when consultants come in and open their Outlook windows, and then I look at my archaic email and cringe.
Make it pretty, make it easy, they will come. Development on Linux isn't a lot more difficult than Windows, but the developer tools again, lack comparatively. The amount of free training Microsoft offers pales in comparison to what Linux offers. The Linux training is pricey, but very in depth. But nobody's going to send their employees to training for desktop application development in Linux, because it's useless.
I had a 6 digit ICQ number starting with "333".... and it's lost. I took pride in looking at that as my 'nerd' badge of honor since I was on the ICQ train so long before others.
Needless to say, I haven't used ICQ in a long time since then, and I won't be using it any time again.
Fuck AOL.
It still pales in comparison to MS Office.
Yes, I am complimenting Microsoft -- I am sure I'll be flamed for it. But frankly, they make the best office suite, and since theirs is the standard look and feel (although the new Office is a departure), the other guys have to play catchup.
I would love to use OpenOffice, I just hate the look and feel and have always been more comfortable in Microsoft Office.
At first I was tempted, doing very well in a private CS:S server on a daily (or almost) basis. I am pretty good at the game, I know the hiding spots and I use a bit of common sense. Being good with my 'twitch' skills doesn't hurt either.
However with that said.... cheaters are abounds in CS:S. Wall hacks, aimbots, etc. With an online tournament there are far too high risks of cheating. People won't use aimbots but they will wall hack, and just use that to avoid dying, rather than racking up the kills (if they are smart). You can be smart and not get detected, people just chalk it up to your being 'good', but in fact I know so many players who people think are just 'good' that have later been banned with VAC after they clamped down on the cheaters.
Anyway, until they can guarantee cheaters to not play, then I have no interest in playing. So I guess I'll never be playing.
I've always noticed that when Microsoft is tagged in articles like this, the number one tag seems to be "haha".
I found it entertaining...
I know... I was being ironic :)
It's the iTunes company.
AppleTV, iPod, iPhone, Airport, etc.... all complements to iTunes.
they mean Panasonic.
:)
Useless information, I know
At least their games are fun.
More money for something that costs Apple less to support.
Sorry, I'm still not seeing a deal. This actually makes it MORE expensive than a CD... and you get no album art either.
Here's my take.
.NET component that plugs into Exchange and Sharepoint, and does the work of both. Visual Studio .NET helps with that.
:)
Apple can't touch Microsoft until they develop enterprise level applications. I know in a nutshell, that it's maybe not the most popular thing to say on Slashdot (the Microsoft lovers we all are here!), but I feel it's true.
Microsoft offers businesses a 'suite' of products. One that complements another. You have Windows as a base. Then on top of that, you have Office (still the best in class -- for now). On top of Office, you run document collaboration with Sharepoint. You run form wizards with Infopath and further with Exchange. Then you can develop a
Okay, it's simplistic to be sure. But Apple has right now, OS X. And it's a great desktop OS -- better than Vista and FAR better than XP. Better than Linux too (though I'm putting on my flamesuit as we speak!).
For graphic designers and video editors, their home is on a Mac. The applications that are available like Final Cut and things like that are simply not available on the PC in the same form. Thus, in the corporate world those people in the marketing departments who design templates in Quark or Illustrator, or Photoshop, likely use a Mac. But the people who work with financial calculations, metering, forecasting, and even a lot of administration use Windows. It's because they need Excel to do their number crunching. They write VBA macros that are simple and easy to create to get their numbered 'modeled' to what they are looking for.
Apple doesn't have that ability yet. When a person comes home from work, familiarity is always a good selling point. Businesses will use whatever helps them to get the job done with the least amount of money and headache (time is a cost too). So when Bob comes home from forecasting the next quarter's sales model in Excel, a familiar home to him is a Windows machine.
The second obstacle is the open nature of PCs. While Windows is a closed operating system, you can use almost any hardware you like with it. Buy a motherboard, graphics card, and RAM... and you can do it yourself. If a new game comes out, and your PC is struggling with it... you can open it up, buy an off-the-shelf graphics card and boom! You're in business and the game runs faster. Until Apple offers this ability it's going to be difficult to convince people to go their route -- to a completely closed environment. Now I know you can do some upgrades on a Mac, but not to the extent of a PC. And frankly as time goes by, and we all know that this generation will be far more computer savvy than the previous generation, and the next one even more so -- that people are going to know more about open source (a big plus), more about general computing, and more about what bang you get for your buck.
Right now Dell sells you a full PC for $350 shipped, with a monitor. And most people buy Dells. Until we get to the point where Macs can be had whitebox for $350, I don't see them overtaking PCs any time soon. And besides, who's going to pay extra $650 if they are only surfing the web and checking email? Oh wait... I did
Same here... Vista has been very slow to copy files though I'm fortunate in the fact that I haven't had to do a whole lot of that. I am pretty happy with Vista otherwise... it runs quite well and I've no real issues aside from the new-teething niggles.
that Prius' produces far more SMUG than any other vehicle.
It is what leads small children in San Francisco to do hits of acid.
At least that's what South Park told me. "THEEEEEEEEAANKS!"
And then I'm off to smell my farts...
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But this is why Microsoft is actually a good thing on the desktop market. I'm all for using different OSes, but the sheer number of applications available for a single OS (And in this case it happens to be Windows) is staggering compared to how bad it COULD have been had we had multiple OSes that were popular. It's expensive to develop cross platform support, which is why most companies will aim for the market that makes them the most money.
I'm still looking forward to Linux and Click and Run technology -- that is the first step of many needed to start surpassing Windows on the desktop.
I'm leading the charge on DST for my company and well.... let's just say that I manage over 350 servers with over 4000 users. It's going to be ugly though, if I do my job properly it should mean some good kudos afterwards :)
Being an enterprise administrator, is having to now use key management service to 'activate' Vista PCs. We have no plans to migrate any time soon, but when that time comes (another two years?) then I can guarantee tears will be shed.
Every other enterprise admin says the same thing, they dread when they have to migrate because of activation problems.
I've joked with them about setting up a public KMS (like the china one) so we make it easier amongst ourselves.
because it still takes no skill to partake in.
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I'll be waiting for DarkFall Online. As an added note for those who love PvP... check out the in-game movie:
http://files.darkfallonline.com/darkfall_battle.z
Enjoy folks! I'll be on that when it's out... WoW is still a level treadmill that I'm not a fan of.
Who wants that bloated garbage anyway?
Get NOD32, and be happy. Vista compatible too!
VB100 is a certification. Either you get it, or you don't. NOD32 has always gotten it for as long as I can remember. Norton, McAfee, etc... they've missed it multiple times.
When you have the ability to offer Unlimited Broadband that is in fact, limited to 200GB -- how do you expect commercial adoption of any major technologies by the US when everybody is trying to make pennies on bandwith? Even more stupidly, do people not realize that vast broadband adoption and usage only expand our economy as a whole, and give us the ability to compete in markets we currently do not. Look at South Korea for this example.