Hello group, my name is Klark... As is the kase with many of you, I love komputers and was about to embark on a kareer in the field of information and kommunikation teknology... but my troubles started when I got into KDE development... it wasn't really konspikuous at first when I started to spell everything with a k, sometimes even with a kapital K, but soon my kolleagues began to wonder whether I kouldn't spell... they asked me, "Are you on krack? Kut the krap!"... some even went as far as kalling me kompletely krazy! What kould I do? I must admit, I'm a kolerik person, kwick-tempered as you might say... sometimes I got inkredibly angry, and I kussed and kursed at my ko-workers... People should judge me by the kontent of my karakter instead of just kriticizing my kurious spelling! However, when I was sacked for being unkooperative, I developed an inferiority komplex and finally realized I had to kome to terms with my problem... so here I am, this is my koming-out... I know my kase is a komplex one, but I do hope it is kurable...
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On a related note, where did this K-ism thing come from? It really bugs me, quite honestly.
Some names you can use if you don't want the KDE folks to make a KDE port of your app: Rap, Rud, Ringeworthy, Rotch, Ock, Litoris, Unt...
This protest is not directed at the general public but Members of the European Parliament. Except in the committees where the directive has been discussed already, the matter of software patents and their harmful effect may not have registered of the radars of many ordinary MEPs. If we can point to a few thousand sites shutting down in protest for a day, some of them may take anoth^H^H^H^H look at the issue and swing the vote in our favour.
Come on now! What was written over the door as Neo enters the kitchen. "Know Thyself". If that's not an invitation to self-reference I don't know what is. The whole conversation revolves around would I do this if I knew that she knew that I was going to do it.... What is the Oracle called? "The Oracle". What is the Comp Sci terminology for a system than can solve the halting problem? An "Oracle".
I don't remember the Matrix scene for scene, and I haven't seen the sequel yet. so I can't speak to all of what your saying. I just wanted to throw in this tidbit of useful information; you decide if Occam's razor applies:
In Ancient Greece, the famous oracle of Apollo at Delphi was inscribed with the words "gnothi seauton" (know thyself). Rather than a reference to the concept of self-reference, I believe it was intended as a reminder that we're all mere human mortals. Or something.
There is one more aspect to this problem which I think doesn't get mentioned as often as it should be - Windows is a lock-in (or lock-out, depending on your perspective) platform, and Microsoft's own apps for it are also designed to tie you to that platform. So yes, it may be that in 2010, 65% of the great unwashed will be running their shiny new LindowsOS 2010 as root and get the same amount of viruses as today... but I won't have to give a sh*t about it, because I will be able to run FreeBSD, or the Hurd, or OpenBeOS or whatever the heck I want. Without pressure. Without people telling me "Sorry, we only support this OS / browser / office file format, because 95% of the world uses it anyway. Why don't you just run [insert expletive here] like everybody else?"
Once an open-standards platform gets into the mainstream, anybody who runs the exact same software as Joe Blow will have only themselves to blame. Anybody who actually cares about security or any other IT-related issue will be able to avoid the mainstream if they wish to do so.
Sorry for the rant. I just had to get this off my chest.
Ah, but you're forgetting the wise words that the ever insightful Jack Valenti once pronounced: "But you've already got a DVD. It lasts forever. It never wears out. In the digital world, we don't need back-ups, because a digital copy never wears out. It is timeless.";-)
The only real problem with file sharing is that nobody wants that stuff, they all want the copyrighted stuff:)
Or maybe you've got it backwards and it's just that all the stuff they want is copyrighted.;-) And if it wasn't, well, maybe it's time to push another unconstitutional retroactive extension of copyright terms through Congress...
Do you feel software publishers should have the right to peer into users data, if their software suspects foul play on the machine [...]?
Yes, absolutely. This will only serve to differentiate Free Software from monopolyware, or separate the wheat from the chaff, if you will. Choose vendor lock-in, planned obsolescence, security by obscurity, spyware, draconian EULAs, and harassment by the BSA - or choose freedom. It's up to you.
This is what I keep thinking when Slashdotters criticize the BSA's heavy-handed methods or Microsoft's draconian EULAs... that's all self-inflicted! All those users are doing it to themselves. I say let the proprietary software world go on like this; they are slowly running out of steam anyway. And it all just serves to illustrate what you get yourself into when you choose to run monopolyware. Anyone who wants to avoid this has plenty of alternatives open to them.
In other news, the Lindon, Utah-based SCO Group was caught distributing from their FTP server in excess of 3,000,000 lines of code demonstrably not written any of their employees, and for which by their own admission they had no licence. When asked to justify what surely must be one of the most brazen acts of piracy in recent history, CEO Darl McBride said: "What? You mean the rules don't just apply to everybody else?"
The OSS definition states one cannot descriminate against people or organizations. How can you suggest it is right to exclude our enemy from the benefits of Free software?
Nobody can or will be excluded as long as GCC remains GPLed. The only thing that happens is that the GCC developers stop doing free work for SCO.
Linus said it best: "The only thing you're entitled to is having your own tree."
5) Even if we (IBM) did do something wrong (which we didn't), then SCO didn't lose any money from it (mostly because their business sucked before any of this started).
No, this one is wrong, sorry. The economic-loss doctrine (and much of the rest of IBM's affirmative defenses) is explained very well here.
In Europe, the game is already over. SCO Europe knows that it has no case, and no Linux "licences" are available to us from SCO. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about the US justice system; you're gonna have to fix that one yourselves. (This is meant in sympathy, not as a flamebait.)
...in Europe, a SCO lawyer has admitted that SCO's copyright claims have little substance. If you've missed it, read my writeup and partial translation here.
...but since it will likely be rejected (the gods of karma are always against me), here ya go:
An Austrian Free Software group by the name of FFS has been talking to SCO Austria and SCO Germany, who have assured them SCO's European branches have "nothing to do" with SCO's claims, and there will be no Linux licences available from SCO in Europe. What's perhaps more interesting is that a SCO lawyer has admitted that SCO's copyright claims have little substance. The article is in German, unfortunately. Here's a very rough translation of the title and the first paragraph:
SCO Plays Dead: No License Fees in Europe
As reported by Pro-Linux, representatives of the FFS have been in touch with legal representatives of the Austrian and German branches of SCO, which has in the past few months accused Linux developers and users of intellectual property violations. These accusations, which remain as yet completely unsubstantiated, have recently culminated in SCO demanding license fees for Linux. This would amount to a misappropriation of Linux by the company, which would thus itself be exposed to accusations of software piracy. The FFS has now obtained a letter from SCO's legal counsel literally affirming that SCO's local branch has "nothing to do" with the claims. SCO's counsel, who has also admitted in a phone conversation with the FFS that SCO's copyright claims have little substance, goes on to protest that the company is doing everything to comply with the court decisions barring it from doing further damage to the reputation of Linux or its users.
[The rest of the article then goes into a rant on software patents etc.]
Comments on the linguistic side of my translation are also welcome, but bear in mind this was just a quickie.
And yes, I am karma whoring. But then, isn't everyone?
I am running: GNOME 2.2, Firebird 0.6 / Mozilla 1.4 / Epiphany 0.8, Nautilus 2.2.4,...
My base system is almost entirely out of Debian stable. The rest of the system is out of testing/unstable only as required to satisfy the dependency versions for these applications.
That sounds a bit fishy. If you're running Mozilla 1.4 etc., then you must be using much more recent versions of core packages like glibc than the ones in stable (unless of course all of those recent applications are unofficial backports). What that means is that for all intents and purposes, you are running testing or unstable, and might as well update the rest of your system. (Pure unstable is probably cleaner and more hassle-free than a wild mix of all three branches.)
But Redhat is trying to win an Injunction, which doesn't cost much and doesn't take long.
Unfortunately, Red Hat is seeking a permanent injuction (read the complaint), which can take years, AFAIK. (IANAL, of course.) Just like SCO sought a permanent injuction against IBM's distribution of AIX, remember? That hasn't stopped Big Blue from continuing to distribute AIX as usual.
I would love for an IAAL, or even a knowledgeable IANAL here, to comment on why they think Red Hat is not seeking a preliminary injunction and shutting SCO up within a matter of weeks, just like in Germany.
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Hello group, my name is Klark... As is the kase with many of you, I love komputers and was about to embark on a kareer in the field of information and kommunikation teknology... but my troubles started when I got into KDE development... it wasn't really konspikuous at first when I started to spell everything with a k, sometimes even with a kapital K, but soon my kolleagues began to wonder whether I kouldn't spell... they asked me, "Are you on krack? Kut the krap!"... some even went as far as kalling me kompletely krazy! What kould I do? I must admit, I'm a kolerik person, kwick-tempered as you might say... sometimes I got inkredibly angry, and I kussed and kursed at my ko-workers... People should judge me by the kontent of my karakter instead of just kriticizing my kurious spelling! However, when I was sacked for being unkooperative, I developed an inferiority komplex and finally realized I had to kome to terms with my problem... so here I am, this is my koming-out... I know my kase is a komplex one, but I do hope it is kurable...
On a related note, where did this K-ism thing come from? It really bugs me, quite honestly.
Some names you can use if you don't want the KDE folks to make a KDE port of your app: Rap, Rud, Ringeworthy, Rotch, Ock, Litoris, Unt...
Slashdot, this is your chance to take a stand and really make a difference.
This protest is not directed at the general public but Members of the European Parliament. Except in the committees where the directive has been discussed already, the matter of software patents and their harmful effect may not have registered of the radars of many ordinary MEPs. If we can point to a few thousand sites shutting down in protest for a day, some of them may take anoth^H^H^H^H look at the issue and swing the vote in our favour.
Come on now! What was written over the door as Neo enters the kitchen. "Know Thyself". If that's not an invitation to self-reference I don't know what is. The whole conversation revolves around would I do this if I knew that she knew that I was going to do it.... What is the Oracle called? "The Oracle". What is the Comp Sci terminology for a system than can solve the halting problem? An "Oracle".
I don't remember the Matrix scene for scene, and I haven't seen the sequel yet. so I can't speak to all of what your saying. I just wanted to throw in this tidbit of useful information; you decide if Occam's razor applies:
In Ancient Greece, the famous oracle of Apollo at Delphi was inscribed with the words "gnothi seauton" (know thyself). Rather than a reference to the concept of self-reference, I believe it was intended as a reminder that we're all mere human mortals. Or something.
There is one more aspect to this problem which I think doesn't get mentioned as often as it should be - Windows is a lock-in (or lock-out, depending on your perspective) platform, and Microsoft's own apps for it are also designed to tie you to that platform. So yes, it may be that in 2010, 65% of the great unwashed will be running their shiny new LindowsOS 2010 as root and get the same amount of viruses as today... but I won't have to give a sh*t about it, because I will be able to run FreeBSD, or the Hurd, or OpenBeOS or whatever the heck I want. Without pressure. Without people telling me "Sorry, we only support this OS / browser / office file format, because 95% of the world uses it anyway. Why don't you just run [insert expletive here] like everybody else?"
Once an open-standards platform gets into the mainstream, anybody who runs the exact same software as Joe Blow will have only themselves to blame. Anybody who actually cares about security or any other IT-related issue will be able to avoid the mainstream if they wish to do so.
Sorry for the rant. I just had to get this off my chest.
Ah, but you're forgetting the wise words that the ever insightful Jack Valenti once pronounced: "But you've already got a DVD. It lasts forever. It never wears out. In the digital world, we don't need back-ups, because a digital copy never wears out. It is timeless." ;-)
The only real problem with file sharing is that nobody wants that stuff, they all want the copyrighted stuff :)
;-) And if it wasn't, well, maybe it's time to push another unconstitutional retroactive extension of copyright terms through Congress...
Or maybe you've got it backwards and it's just that all the stuff they want is copyrighted.
Nice rant, and I agree completely. Now if only you hadn't closed it with a shameless plug for a proprietary piece of software... :p
Do you feel software publishers should have the right to peer into users data, if their software suspects foul play on the machine [...]?
Yes, absolutely. This will only serve to differentiate Free Software from monopolyware, or separate the wheat from the chaff, if you will. Choose vendor lock-in, planned obsolescence, security by obscurity, spyware, draconian EULAs, and harassment by the BSA - or choose freedom. It's up to you.
This is what I keep thinking when Slashdotters criticize the BSA's heavy-handed methods or Microsoft's draconian EULAs... that's all self-inflicted! All those users are doing it to themselves. I say let the proprietary software world go on like this; they are slowly running out of steam anyway. And it all just serves to illustrate what you get yourself into when you choose to run monopolyware. Anyone who wants to avoid this has plenty of alternatives open to them.
...even on ZDNet, we are now kicking SCO's sorry asses.
Links go to ASCII-art goatse pics. (Apart from the GNOME FUD which would in itself be reason enough to mod this guy down.)
In other news, the Lindon, Utah-based SCO Group was caught distributing from their FTP server in excess of 3,000,000 lines of code demonstrably not written any of their employees, and for which by their own admission they had no licence. When asked to justify what surely must be one of the most brazen acts of piracy in recent history, CEO Darl McBride said: "What? You mean the rules don't just apply to everybody else?"
...Robbie Williams picture in the BBC story: Can you say Bert from Sesame Street?
Priceless.
The OSS definition states one cannot descriminate against people or organizations. How can you suggest it is right to exclude our enemy from the benefits of Free software?
Nobody can or will be excluded as long as GCC remains GPLed. The only thing that happens is that the GCC developers stop doing free work for SCO.
Linus said it best: "The only thing you're entitled to is having your own tree."
5) Even if we (IBM) did do something wrong (which we didn't), then SCO didn't lose any money from it (mostly because their business sucked before any of this started).
No, this one is wrong, sorry. The economic-loss doctrine (and much of the rest of IBM's affirmative defenses) is explained very well here.
Citizens of Germany, Poland, Australia and other places with strong consumer protection laws or laws against damaging unsubstantiated allegations.
:
As I've pointed out elsewhere
In Europe, the game is already over. SCO Europe knows that it has no case, and no Linux "licences" are available to us from SCO. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about the US justice system; you're gonna have to fix that one yourselves. (This is meant in sympathy, not as a flamebait.)
...in Europe, a SCO lawyer has admitted that SCO's copyright claims have little substance. If you've missed it, read my writeup and partial translation here.
...but since it will likely be rejected (the gods of karma are always against me), here ya go:
An Austrian Free Software group by the name of FFS has been talking to SCO Austria and SCO Germany, who have assured them SCO's European branches have "nothing to do" with SCO's claims, and there will be no Linux licences available from SCO in Europe. What's perhaps more interesting is that a SCO lawyer has admitted that SCO's copyright claims have little substance. The article is in German, unfortunately. Here's a very rough translation of the title and the first paragraph:
SCO Plays Dead: No License Fees in Europe
As reported by Pro-Linux, representatives of the FFS have been in touch with legal representatives of the Austrian and German branches of SCO, which has in the past few months accused Linux developers and users of intellectual property violations. These accusations, which remain as yet completely unsubstantiated, have recently culminated in SCO demanding license fees for Linux. This would amount to a misappropriation of Linux by the company, which would thus itself be exposed to accusations of software piracy. The FFS has now obtained a letter from SCO's legal counsel literally affirming that SCO's local branch has "nothing to do" with the claims. SCO's counsel, who has also admitted in a phone conversation with the FFS that SCO's copyright claims have little substance, goes on to protest that the company is doing everything to comply with the court decisions barring it from doing further damage to the reputation of Linux or its users.
[The rest of the article then goes into a rant on software patents etc.]
Comments on the linguistic side of my translation are also welcome, but bear in mind this was just a quickie.
And yes, I am karma whoring. But then, isn't everyone?
I am running: GNOME 2.2, Firebird 0.6 / Mozilla 1.4 / Epiphany 0.8, Nautilus 2.2.4,...
My base system is almost entirely out of Debian stable. The rest of the system is out of testing/unstable only as required to satisfy the dependency versions for these applications.
That sounds a bit fishy. If you're running Mozilla 1.4 etc., then you must be using much more recent versions of core packages like glibc than the ones in stable (unless of course all of those recent applications are unofficial backports). What that means is that for all intents and purposes, you are running testing or unstable, and might as well update the rest of your system. (Pure unstable is probably cleaner and more hassle-free than a wild mix of all three branches.)
... get an account like everyone else. Sheesh.
But Redhat is trying to win an Injunction, which doesn't cost much and doesn't take long.
Unfortunately, Red Hat is seeking a permanent injuction (read the complaint), which can take years, AFAIK. (IANAL, of course.) Just like SCO sought a permanent injuction against IBM's distribution of AIX, remember? That hasn't stopped Big Blue from continuing to distribute AIX as usual.
I would love for an IAAL, or even a knowledgeable IANAL here, to comment on why they think Red Hat is not seeking a preliminary injunction and shutting SCO up within a matter of weeks, just like in Germany.